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Pooja Kanda talks to the Express & Star about her continuing fight against knife crime.
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14/11/2024
Pooja Kanda, whose son Ronan was murdered in 2022 speaks to the Express & Star during her visit to Lanesfield Primary School, Wolverhampton, about her continuing fight against knife crime.
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Hello Pupin, nice to meet you anyway. Now you are in the classroom where Ronan was
00:06
taught as a child? Yes he was a student in this school and I remember coming
00:14
into this class. How does it feel to be back? Is it the same as you remember this?
00:20
It's overwhelming, it's overwhelming because you think that you know when
00:25
you're attending this your child's parents evening and then you coming
00:30
years down to fight for the crime and you lost a child for that it's it's
00:37
quite overwhelming situation but I am also grateful for the opportunity that
00:44
mrs. Rawlinson has given us to be able to speak to the children from this class
00:50
and make them it's a it's a right step ahead. Perhaps you just thought to
00:56
explain the message you gave and what it was like giving that talk. It was
01:01
wonderful I believe this is where we need to start fighting the knife crime
01:08
as well going in a primary skills speak to the children for what's right and
01:14
wrong put the seed sow their seed sow their seed in them at this early age so
01:25
they know what's right and wrong and if they're getting in trouble what they can
01:29
do to get out of that trouble or not not get in a trouble at all so it's very
01:34
important that we need to sow that seed of that we can help them. Do you
01:40
believe like if somebody been doing what you are doing now sort of ten years
01:46
ago or whatever it was that Rawlinson might still be here? I believe that I
01:50
hundred percent believe that I believe if the ban came years and years ago if
01:56
this ban was in place the one we're fighting now my son would have been here
02:01
it would have been a lot more difficult it would have been actually difficult
02:05
for murderers to obtain this type of weapon so easily. Yeah and also in terms
02:14
of education do you feel you know perhaps if the the children who killed
02:17
Broden had somebody talked to them like this it might have made a difference do you think?
02:21
Absolutely it would have it would have made a difference for other people maybe
02:26
the murderers themselves would have seen their actions could cause a lot more
02:31
damage to their families as well if they don't want to do it for me or my son but
02:36
they might have done something for their family might have done something right
02:39
for their family. Yeah and how do you find the children there do you think did
02:46
you feel when you're talking to them do you feel that you have a bond with them
02:50
do you think? I think that I am very I love children I do think that no
02:56
children is evil and the surroundings put them in the situation as they're
03:03
growing and definitely I believe I got through to these kids yeah and we need
03:11
to continue this behavior it's not just one-off thing it's a continuity of this
03:16
yeah yes and today and there's two big announcements today there's the opening
03:22
of the consultation on the ban on zombie knives particularly surrounding how we
03:29
define what a zombie knife is what would you like to say about that? The zombie
03:34
knife yes it's a ban on ninja swords, the ban on the ninja sword is the
03:43
consultations out now for the public to reply to it and it's very important
03:49
that everybody participate in that because this is not just my view I
03:55
believe it is the whole country's view to be banning this type of weapons
03:58
online sale and anywhere else because they don't have any purpose in our
04:04
society until you know in wrong hands they cause severe damage harm or even
04:12
murder like what happened to my my child. And yeah and the other part of the
04:18
legislation as well it's about the holding tech companies accountable for
04:26
if when they started that these items are advertised on there how do you
04:32
think that what difference will that make do you think how will that work? I
04:34
think you'd be this is what we've been looking for the fact that when we found
04:38
out the online seller who's been selling this type of weapons to the
04:42
murderer in our case when we approached him he did not see and he was not
04:48
apologetic he was not humble he was uncaring all he wanted to continue and
04:53
after that he's also sold this type of weapons to other
05:01
murderers yeah now this wasn't stopping so this legislation will help that yeah
05:10
we need to put stop and people to think of what they're doing especially the
05:16
social media they have resources to do the right thing by the public and the
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people are using their platforms so social media needs to learn as well that
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nobody's going to put up with it. I mean it is a wider problem obviously you lost
05:33
your son we obviously I'm sure you've read the stories about how many other
05:37
young people have died in knife attacks how does it make you feel when you leave
05:43
these stories still that it's still going on still now that people still
05:46
like young people still killing one another with knives how does that make
05:49
you feel? It's really sad. It does take me back to the day yeah and it's painful
05:58
experience over and over but this is why taking these measures are important to
06:06
we can see the reduction in this yeah and how has it been like in the time you
06:14
have been campaigning how have people reacted to you, the politicians
06:20
the police and people, how have they been with you? The government's
06:24
been brilliant yeah he's been listening to us we've been having coalition
06:28
meetings with them to speak about our concerns and what has gone wrong in what
06:34
happened to Ronan there was a failure of organizations we as you know we are
06:40
helping the police with knife crime ourselves but we do have active
06:49
complaint against the police as well and that needs to be resolved and looked at
06:55
so we are still waiting to hear from IOPC right now and there are this way
07:03
there's a lot of work a lot of work behind the knife crime and this is just
07:08
a beginning this banning of ninjas sword will be beginning of a bigger fight
07:13
yeah and last night or not last this week we won the media freedom award for
07:27
that for campaign of the year for the campaign against knife crime and we were
07:32
very obviously very pleased to have won that but obviously it's not just
07:35
people like you who have raised this issue and campaign we'd be reporting
07:41
what's happening so I mean how do you feel does that make you feel proud you
07:45
know that the fact it's been recognized nationally the work that you're doing
07:48
yes it does make me feel like if you put your effort and time in and you have got
07:54
the right fight and you believe in your fight then yes people will listen yeah
08:01
the government will listen yeah thank you very much lovely to meet you and
08:07
thank you very much for your time and good luck with your work that you're
08:10
doing make sure that you all answer the consultation yes yes because it's
08:17
important that we ban this type of weapons now yes and we gave government
08:21
really good reply from public because it's easy for public to keep blaming the
08:28
government now it's on public to do the right thing as well yeah
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