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" Aaeni Tarmeem Mein Kuch Bhi Choup Kar Nahi Kya Gaya Do Mah Media Par Bhi Behas Hoti Rahi "
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10/29/2024
" Aaeni Tarmeem Mein Kuch Bhi Choup Kar Nahi Kya Gaya Do Mah Media Par Bhi Behas Hoti Rahi "
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00:00
Taimur, tell me this.
00:02
I am saying this because the 27th is yet to come.
00:06
We know that it will come.
00:08
If all the parties keep their original agreement,
00:12
and later alterations are made, changes are made,
00:15
negotiations are made,
00:17
I just don't understand how to hide documents.
00:20
Do you agree that if all the parties keep the agreement,
00:22
then it is fine?
00:23
Yes, Taimur.
00:26
Mr. Malik, you understand, I understand, he understands.
00:31
But this is not a big deal.
00:33
But again, you say, look,
00:35
if I pick two or three things,
00:37
the first thing you said is absolutely correct.
00:40
And why is it necessary
00:42
that all politicians and all parties stand up
00:46
for democracy?
00:48
Because Bilal is saying that he took Imran Khan's name.
00:52
I will tell you two incidents.
00:55
Recently, some England fans
00:57
wanted to sit in the Imran Khan enclosure in Pindi Test.
01:01
They were told that it was full,
01:03
when it was closed there.
01:06
That's the level of fear.
01:08
There is so much fear.
01:10
I saw a clip on WhatsApp yesterday,
01:15
whether you call it digital terrorism.
01:18
Someone said that it is very bad
01:20
that our coach, Gary Kirsten,
01:23
he was fired in this way.
01:26
He didn't coach even one day.
01:29
So someone else answered him.
01:31
No one, our world cup winning captain is also in jail
01:34
when no case was proved against him.
01:37
His sentence is suspended.
01:40
So this is the true face
01:43
of what you said, elected autocracy.
01:46
I will call it brute force democracy.
01:49
Bilal himself said
01:51
that if we don't have numbers,
01:53
then we will use brute force.
01:55
And he did that.
01:57
I am most sorry for the role of the People's Party
02:01
because they really have a history.
02:04
Maybe in Chequered,
02:06
but there is a history where they
02:08
stood up for constitutionalism at some point.
02:11
People at least ascribe.
02:14
Instead of saying that democracy is the best revenge,
02:17
brute force is the best revenge.
02:21
But democracy should not be
02:23
a best revenge from the people.
02:25
Mr. Khaira is very blunt.
02:27
He always speaks openly.
02:29
He said that there are some ground realities.
02:32
Things have to be done. Everything happens.
02:35
I am just saying that
02:37
why do you hide everything from people?
02:40
If people have elected you,
02:42
you hide it from people.
02:44
If you don't have any wrong argument,
02:46
you hide it from the media. Why?
02:48
Mr. Khaira, we have been doing a talk show with you for 2 months.
02:51
For 2 months, we have been discussing
02:53
judicial commission and constitutional court
02:55
versus benches.
02:56
If we are not talking about the principles
02:58
and salient features of this term,
03:00
then what are we doing?
03:02
We were telling you that drafts are being shared.
03:04
Drafts are dynamic.
03:05
When the draft is final,
03:06
something will be shared with you.
03:08
It was also shared with the Bar Council.
03:10
It was also taken input from them.
03:12
It was also shared in committees.
03:14
It was shared among the communities.
03:16
Sir, I have to categorically deny this.
03:24
Absolutely false assertion
03:26
that something was done in secret.
03:28
Vociferous, loud debate.
03:30
Daily, vibrant debate
03:32
was held in the talk shows.
03:34
It was held in the parliamentary committees.
03:36
It was held among the parties.
03:38
All the salient features of this term
03:40
were discussed in the talk shows.
03:42
The pieces of information
03:44
were brought to us.
03:46
We listened to you.
03:48
We listened to Taimur.
03:50
You started answering
03:52
the drafts that we showed in the media.
03:54
When did you bring your drafts?
03:56
Sir, the drafts were to be received
03:58
when the final was to be held.
04:00
But, I remember…
04:02
Sir, you don't like this.
04:04
Sir, where did we get the drafts?
04:06
No, no.
04:08
The drafts would have been leaked.
04:10
The drafts would have been leaked.
04:12
I remember Azam Tarar's speech
04:14
on the floor of the house
04:16
6-7 weeks ago.
04:18
He said that these are the points
04:20
that the parties are talking about
04:22
in this term.
04:24
When there was a consensus,
04:26
the drafts were brought to the
04:28
parliamentary committees
04:30
and further comments were made.
04:32
Now, why should we keep
04:34
one thing in front of you
04:36
until the final is held?
04:38
Let me ask a question.
04:40
When everyone agreed,
04:42
did you listen to the viewpoints
04:44
of the parliament
04:46
for 2-3 days?
04:48
Sir, we went to the committee
04:50
again and again.
04:52
I am talking about the parliament.
04:54
Sir, the members of the parliament
04:56
supported their committees.
04:58
Now, listen to me.
05:00
The parliamentary committee
05:02
is there to come with an agreed draft.
05:04
That doesn't mean that
05:06
everyone sitting inside
05:08
has to then debate an agreed draft.
05:10
This is the concept.
05:12
No, the parties trust their committee members.
05:14
They trust their leadership.
05:16
They tell them to make the draft.
05:18
Even after that,
05:20
2-2.5 hours before voting,
05:22
there were speeches.
05:24
Which party did not give a speech?
05:26
The French benches did not give a speech.
05:28
Sir, democracies do not work like this.
05:30
Parties do work like this.
05:32
All of you are party members.
05:34
Sir, you can say whatever you want.
05:36
The parliamentary process has been followed.
05:38
The parties have given their representatives.
05:40
They have had a threadbare discussion.
05:42
Secondly,
05:44
even during the time
05:46
that these issues were being discussed
05:48
in the house of the Mullahs
05:50
and in the special parliamentary committee,
05:52
people were sharing their views
05:54
on the assembly floor.
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