" Jahan Bhi Jata Hon Karachi Ka Muqadma Zaroor Larta Hon," Murtaza Wahab

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00:00First of all, Mr. Nawaz, tell me, you had a very important columnist earlier,

00:04you are the mayor of Karachi, now you are also present in these constitutional matters.

00:09You are present in Islamabad, you are present in Karachi.

00:11What is going on over here? First tell me this.

00:14In the name of Allah, most Gracious, most Merciful.

00:17I am a member of the Pakistan People's Party, I am an employee of the Pakistan People's Party.

00:21I am a lawyer by profession, I have studied law.

00:25So naturally, in different capacities, I also support the party,

00:30I am also a part of the party's consultation process.

00:34I was present in Islamabad regarding a meeting,

00:38and then this discussion also came,

00:41so the leadership of the People's Party also discussed with me,

00:44also got input from me.

00:45That is why I was present there regarding the legal matters.

00:51Okay, so you are a lawyer by profession, you have also corrected the legal and constitutional matters.

00:57But the responsibility you have as the mayor of Karachi is also very big,

01:00and it is not that all the matters of Karachi have been solved.

01:03So diverting your attention will not be unfair to Karachi, Mr. Murtaza Wahab?

01:10Time will tell whether it will be unfair or not.

01:14At times, you have to go to Islamabad in a lot of matters,

01:18there are a lot of Karachi projects in which you need the help of the federal government.

01:23And I was also telling you off the record,

01:25I will say it again on record,

01:27that when I met the Prime Minister,

01:29I mentioned the Karachi projects,

01:32how to expedite K4,

01:35how to improve the gas issues in Karachi,

01:38and how to improve the overall development portfolio of the federal government in Karachi.

01:45So the case of Karachi is in my heart, in my tongue,

01:48and wherever I go, I fight the case of Karachi.

01:51So basically you came to meet the Prime Minister,

01:54to talk about the rights of Karachi,

01:56the promises of the federal government of the past,

01:59you wanted them to be fulfilled,

02:01and that is why you came,

02:02and by chance this situation was going on,

02:04and you were called for legal consultation, is that correct?

02:07I came to meet my leadership, to meet Mr. Bilawal,

02:11and the Prime Minister also went to meet him,

02:14because we have a lot of issues that pertain to Islamabad,

02:18which we cannot solve sitting in Karachi.

02:20And we take our leadership on board,

02:23how we need their help on a loyal level in the parliament,

02:27so that you can streamline those matters and solve them.

02:31Okay, Mr. Bilawal Bhutto Zardari has said this,

02:34while talking yesterday,

02:36that there were some issues,

02:38which he mentioned in this conversation,

02:41some issues of give and take,

02:43and in the situation of give and take,

02:46were there any issues of Karachi as well, Mr. Murtaza Wahab?

02:52See, the People's Party does issue-based politics.

02:56The Pakistan People's Party stands with the democracy,

02:59with the constitution, with the parliament,

03:02and our perspective is that,

03:04how you can serve the people,

03:06how you can solve the problems of the people.

03:09We do not believe in bargaining.

03:11We believe that the source of power is the people,

03:14and to serve the people,

03:16the character of any minister,

03:18who needs to lead in a conscious manner,

03:20that is done by the Pakistan People's Party,

03:22and Mr. Bilawal does it as well.

03:24In the situation of give and take,

03:26the Pakistan People's Party does not believe.

03:28No, but he said that in this conversation,

03:30the things that we had to convince,

03:32were convinced.

03:33Please shed some light on that, Mr. Murtaza Wahab.

03:35What were the things that were ultimately

03:37brought to the table and given?

03:40Give and take might not be the correct word.

03:43Call it negotiation.

03:46Let me explain it to you.

03:48In 2006, this principle of the Pakistan People's Party

03:51was written in the Charter of Democracy.

03:55The People's Party thought that

03:58there should be constitutional courts in Pakistan,

04:01there should be constitutional courts of loyalty.

04:03And when the martyred Respected Benazir Bhutto

04:05signed the Charter of Democracy with Mian Nawaz Sharif

04:08in March 2006,

04:11at that time, it was sealed

04:14that these two political parties

04:17will play their role in the constitution

04:20of the constitutional courts of loyalty.

04:22And later on, Imran Khan had also

04:25signed this document.

04:28Then in 2024, when Bilawal Sahib

04:30issued his election manifesto,

04:33in that manifesto, in the election manifesto,

04:36it is categorically mentioned that

04:38the Pakistan People's Party

04:40believes in establishing federal constitutional courts

04:43or constitutional courts.

04:45And it would like to establish them

04:47if it gets the opportunity.

04:49So, Bilawal Sahib is saying,

04:51conveying the point that

04:53our perspective from the time of Bibi Sahiba

04:55was that in this country,

04:57the big political cases,

04:59the big legal cases,

05:01which do not pertain to a common man,

05:03at times, take away the authority.

05:05That is, if there is a legal case

05:07going on in the Supreme Court,

05:09then your dispute,

05:11or someone's military case,

05:13someone's bail case,

05:14someone's commercial corporate dispute,

05:16someone's property dispute,

05:18then that case is not heard.

05:20Then your high profile...

05:22You are talking about the Charter of Democracy

05:24that was signed on May 14.

05:26I understand what you are saying.

05:28But this point was already

05:30added by the government.

05:32There were 56 points in it.

05:3453 out of 56 were left.

05:36So, this point was already added

05:38that there should be a court

05:40which is a constitutional court.

05:42Anika, I did not see any final draft.

05:44The one that is circulating in the media

05:46I do not know if it is correct or not.

05:48As a translator of the People's Party,

05:50as a worker of the People's Party,

05:52I can tell you the perspective

05:54of the People's Party.

05:56The People's Party thinks

05:58that there should be a constitutional court

06:00in this country so that the important

06:02constitutional matters

06:04can be solved by the court.

06:06And the remaining cases

06:08that pertain to a common man

06:10can be solved by your Sessions Court,

06:12Civil Court, High Court, Supreme Court

06:14so that people can get

06:16cheap, legal and fair justice.

06:18And the important

06:20constitutional matters can also be solved.

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