" Agar 27 Win Tarmeem Ke Nateejay Mein Military Courts Bani To Qoum Hamein Maaf Nahi Kere Gi "

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00:00I wanted to share two facts with you.

00:05As Bilal was saying, there was no draft.

00:10There were relevant functionaries of the Law Ministry.

00:14They shared a secret.

00:16They said that when all this was going on,

00:18we had nine drafts.

00:21Nine.

00:22And if this didn't happen, we would do this.

00:24If this didn't happen, we would do this.

00:25If this didn't happen, we would do this.

00:26And if such a detailed discussion had taken place,

00:29do you remember that the Law Ministry gave a clarification?

00:33That if judges were to be appointed,

00:36what would be the seniority of the Constitutional Benches?

00:39So things were happening at great speed.

00:42And more than lawmaking,

00:44it was a game of power.

00:48Do you think it is enough

00:50that there is no public discourse in the Constitutional Amendments

00:54and just four leaders sit down and decide

00:57and forcefully stamp their party?

00:59Then the concept of Parliamentary debate would be over.

01:03When you people agreed to everything last night,

01:06after that, the Constitutional Amendments were passed in hours.

01:09This doesn't happen in the world.

01:11You said that we are not bound.

01:12But there are some traditions in the world.

01:14This doesn't happen, Mr. Kaira.

01:16Look, Malak.

01:17Let me first request my younger brother, Mr. Jagra

01:22that he started giving a good example

01:25that in our country, there is also an example

01:28that in your government,

01:29there were 29 or 30 laws.

01:31How many were there, Malak?

01:32You may remember more.

01:33The ones on the last day.

01:34The ones that were passed in a few minutes.

01:36Yes, there were a few dozen.

01:37There were a lot.

01:38Dozens.

01:39And they were passed in a few minutes.

01:41So, while taunting us,

01:43let's first think about what you have done.

01:45So, on the other hand,

01:46let's leave this aside.

01:47Let me make a little comparison with my brother.

01:49Do you remember, Mr. Kaira,

01:51in Mr. Bilal's party,

01:52Mr. Kaira, the amendment was passed in 11 minutes.

01:55Three readings were done in 11 minutes.

01:57The past is very strange.

01:58Leave it.

01:59I am just talking to the relevant people.

02:01Mr. Jagra,

02:02because he lives in Varas,

02:03so I told him to tell you.

02:05I kept cutting a little.

02:07The second request is that

02:08what you are saying, Mr. Malik,

02:10is absolutely correct.

02:12My view is that

02:14the media will get a news

02:16when it becomes a news.

02:18Or it will continue to be a news.

02:20Now, we didn't have any special news at that time

02:23because there were different communities.

02:25Not a single community had a majority.

02:27You can vote with your own will.

02:29Mr. Muslim, if you want,

02:31you will have to vote for the People's Party.

02:33If the People's Party wants,

02:34you will have to vote for the MKM.

02:36If they vote,

02:37we will not be able to move forward without the Maulana's vote.

02:39So, in such a situation,

02:40you are taking all your allies

02:42with you.

02:44And at different levels,

02:45different people are giving their opinions

02:47that this thing is not acceptable to us in this way.

02:49Some of their own flags are also coming.

02:51For example, the MKM was saying

02:53that Mr. Malik,

02:54include him in the elections of local bodies as well.

02:56I am personally in favor of this.

02:57Yes, it should be there.

02:58That he should also be made mandatory

03:00in the constitution.

03:01But such drafts were going on.

03:03These amendments were going on.

03:05You will remember that

03:06our 18th convention was held in a closed room.

03:11And you were also looking for it.

03:13I was not aware of the information

03:15that was available at that time.

03:16The rest of our friends,

03:17who put their fingers up,

03:18whose job it is to collect secret news,

03:20were also looking for what was happening.

03:22And no one was understanding

03:24what draft was being discussed.

03:26They were on oath and were not telling.

03:28And you are a very far-sighted

03:30ally with us.

03:32But you were also not getting all the news.

03:34Why?

03:35We tried this time as well.

03:36Why?

03:37The question is right

03:38that it should be in public discourse.

03:40There should be an open debate.

03:41But in a society like ours,

03:43this is not the case even in Britain

03:45where there were open debates for 6 months.

03:47There were debates in a closed room

03:49for 9 months.

03:50And only a few people sat down and debated.

03:52The nominees of the Jamaat did it.

03:54And after that,

03:55it was passed in one go.

03:56Here, the leadership of the Jamaat

03:58has given their opinion on it

04:00on the assembly floor.

04:02If there was PTI,

04:03the debate would have been better.

04:05It is the opposition

04:06that always generates debate.

04:07So let us talk.

04:08From the government's side,

04:10if they say that

04:11what our Jamaat said

04:12was asked by the parliamentary party,

04:14then we will agree.

04:15It is not a good way.

04:17But the level at which

04:18your democracy is at,

04:19the level at which

04:20our institutional arrangement is at,

04:22you will go with that.

04:23You are not sitting

04:24in an exemplary democracy.

04:26We will decide

04:27based on the objective conditions.

04:29If these debates are in our view,

04:31when all the doors will open,

04:33then there will be such

04:35lines of debate

04:37that the facts will remain on one side.

04:39And the debate based on lies

04:41and assumptions

04:44will lead to such things

04:46that the mood of the public

04:47will change.

04:48We have not seen this

04:49in our politics.

04:50Therefore, in such circumstances,

04:52the Jamaat does its own

04:53discussion in closed rooms.

04:55The people of the party

04:56were not just two people

04:57discussing.

04:58Mr. Bilawal and Mr. Naveed Kamar

04:59were not there.

05:00There were others with us.

05:02Sir, tell me,

05:03the biggest issue of the 27th

05:05is that maybe

05:07it is being brought for the military courts.

05:10Will you support the military courts?

05:12Sir,

05:13this is a simple request.

05:15In the past,

05:16there was only one request.

05:17Whatever we did,

05:18according to the circumstances,

05:20when the news came to you,

05:22there was a debate on it.

05:23It will continue.

05:24There will be more.

05:25Mistakes will also be pointed out.

05:26The civil society will also do it.

05:27The lawyers will also do it.

05:28The challenge will also be done.

05:29All these processes

05:30keep happening.

05:31Now the second thing,

05:32as far as this issue is concerned,

05:34this doubt.

05:35Mr. Taimoor,

05:36tell me this.

05:37It is a small issue.

05:38Sir.

05:39As far as this doubt is concerned,

05:40the 27th amendment

05:41will be brought

05:42by the military courts.

05:43We are saying

05:44that it will not happen.

05:45We are standing on this point

05:46that we will not amend

05:47this article.

05:48Now,

05:49on this point,

05:50with great difficulty,

05:51we have passed

05:52our amendment

05:53with the permission

05:54of one vote.

05:55If this happens,

05:56will you forgive us?

05:57Will you forgive us

05:58in the rest of the media?

05:59Don't we have to go

06:00in front of people?

06:01Don't we have

06:02our character

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06:04Have we

06:05rubber-stamped

06:06the 56th amendment?

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