" PTI Ke Log Aisay Hi Criminal Mind Ke Log Hain," Bilal Azhar Kayani Ki Aaj Ke Waqeye Par Guftagu

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00:00One thing is that the CCTV footage is being recorded.

00:02You bring that CCTV footage that has happened in Sangjani,

00:05which Atta Tarar is claiming to be CCTV footage,

00:08where PTI workers, including the son of the MPA, are attacking.

00:14In the name of Allah, most Gracious, most Merciful.

00:15Thank you very much, Ms. Anika, for inviting me to your show.

00:18Look, either this would have been the first incident of PTI like this,

00:22but still we say, let's give the benefit of the doubt.

00:26Now, regarding the last incident, which is being claimed to be CCTV footage,

00:31do you have a video in which Mr. Hassan Niazi is standing on a cart,

00:37disrespecting the army uniform, dishonouring it?

00:43Do you have a video where Mr. Shariar Afridi is saying,

00:46come, let's go to GHQ.

00:48Do you have videos in Sialkot, Rabalpindi, Lahore,

00:52in other cities, Peshawar, in other cities,

00:55their public faces leading their workers,

00:58who are waving PTI flags, wearing PTI banners,

01:01and they are going with sticks.

01:03So, look, I don't understand that after this, CCTV footage...

01:06But with the CCTV footage of 9th May, or the footage of 9th May,

01:09or the video of 9th May, you can't say that...

01:12Now, this is not possible, right?

01:13Because it was 9th May, so whatever happened,

01:15you can put it on the PTI's lap.

01:17You have...

01:18I have, in reference to this, told you this,

01:21that the claim that was being made by Mousuf,

01:24that the CCTV footage record is very bad,

01:27we are asking for the CCTV footage of 9th May.

01:30They are asking for the CCTV footage there,

01:32where the videos have come,

01:33where their people and their crimes have come.

01:35It's not here.

01:36Look, here too...

01:37They are asking the police to do it.

01:38Look, here too, God willing...

01:39Why did the SHO do it?

01:40Look, CCTV footage is not available everywhere,

01:42this case will go to the court.

01:43No, but Mr. Akhtar had said that CCTV footage...

01:45No, if they have it, then it will come,

01:47it will be even better.

01:48And in the coming days, this matter will go to the court.

01:50The MPA's sons, PTI's MPA,

01:52PTI's employees are not like this,

01:54they are people like this,

01:55they are people like this.

01:56So, MPA's are also like this.

01:57So, PTI's MPA's sons,

01:59if they break the police vans,

02:01this is the work of criminals,

02:02and these criminals are filled in this Jamaat.

02:04There is a 10-year track record and training.

02:07So, there is nothing wrong in this.

02:08Anyway, CCTV footage will also come.

02:10Mr. Akhtar told, so it will be available with them.

02:12And in the coming days, I am sure,

02:14that this matter will go to the court,

02:15so there will be no problem.

02:16Okay, their one point is very valid.

02:18If CCTV footage does not come,

02:20they say,

02:22that they were being released from there.

02:24So, the family of the person being released does not attack.

02:27The family attacks the person

02:28who knows that there will be a severe punishment ahead.

02:30So, there is nothing wrong with severe punishment.

02:31No, no, see,

02:32this will be known now,

02:33on the occasion,

02:34in the police vans,

02:3682 criminals are going.

02:39There is an attack on that police van.

02:41On the occasion,

02:42PTI's MPA's son is caught attacking others.

02:46His family was going with him,

02:47you know, his family travels.

02:48No, no, see,

02:49he should travel with him.

02:50Okay, she was attacking the same car.

02:52She was attacking the same police van.

02:54It is a great coincidence.

02:55So, see,

02:56the thing is,

02:57that this thing will go to the court in the coming days.

02:59There will be further discussion.

03:00Do not add these logics.

03:02If this had not happened,

03:03then there would not have been such crimes.

03:04Anyway,

03:05I am sure,

03:06that in the coming days,

03:07this matter will go to the court.

03:08There will be no problem.

03:09CCTV footage,

03:10which Mr. Akhtar is telling,

03:11that too, God willing,

03:12will come out.

03:13Right.

03:14Okay, let's go to the other side.

03:15Now, Mr. Rana Sanaullah is saying,

03:16that the women of the house should not be added

03:18in such cases.

03:19Cases should not be made.

03:20Whether it is Bushra Bibi,

03:21or Khan Sahab's sisters,

03:23they do not need to be unnecessarily arrested.

03:27Does PMLN agree with this thought,

03:31which is Rana Sanaullah's own thought?

03:33I think,

03:34what Rana Sahab is saying,

03:35he is saying in this context,

03:37that we do not believe in such revengeful actions,

03:40which Imran Khan did.

03:42Such?

03:43Allow me.

03:44See,

03:45Bushra Bibi Sahiba was not arrested,

03:47because she is Imran Khan's wife.

03:49She was arrested,

03:50because she was an accused,

03:52in the robbery of Tosha Khana,

03:54with Imran Khan.

03:55See,

03:56it was not her intention,

03:57that because she is his wife,

03:58and she is still an accused,

03:59she was released on bail,

04:00but she is still an accused,

04:01in the case.

04:02So,

04:03we do not believe in such revengeful politics,

04:05or actions,

04:06which Imran Khan did repeatedly,

04:08that Maryam Nawaz should be arrested,

04:10in front of Nawaz Sharif.

04:12Nawaz Sharif's AC should be removed,

04:14Maryam Nawaz's cell should be entered at 12 am.

04:17We do not believe in such politics.

04:19We do not believe in such politics.

04:21We do not believe in such politics.

04:23We do not believe in such politics.

04:25We do not believe in such politics.

04:27We do not believe in such politics.

04:29And we do not believe in any kind of revengeful action.

04:32Yes,

04:33on merit,

04:34where there are crimes,

04:35whether it is Tosha Khana,

04:36or it is a case of £190 million,

04:38or it is a terrorist act of 9th May,

04:40whoever is involved,

04:42they should be arrested,

04:43and they should be taken to task.

04:45If you do not believe in revengeful action,

04:47then the news that is coming,

04:49that Imran Khan's sisters will be arrested,

04:51in another new case,

04:53they will not be allowed to be released,

04:54is this true?

04:55Look,

04:56in my knowledge,

04:57there is no such thing.

04:58So,

04:59I always say,

05:00in the cases of 9th May,

05:02whoever is involved,

05:03they should be convicted.

05:05In fact,

05:06I will even say that,

05:07this is also a question on Judiciary,

05:08why are the cases of 9th May,

05:09which are such serious crimes,

05:10still under investigation?

05:11In the UK,

05:12you saw that,

05:13there were riots recently,

05:14within a week,

05:15convictions started to come.

05:17Here,

05:18in 9th May,

05:19there were serious crimes,

05:20in which military installations were attacked,

05:22people of a party were seen leading.

05:24Imran Khan himself,

05:25in Adiyala jail,

05:26admitted that,

05:27I had called him.

05:28So,

05:29in such cases,

05:30the convictions should have come sooner.

05:31But,

05:32having said this,

05:33what you said,

05:34that if a person is innocent,

05:36they should be freed.

05:37But,

05:38we do not believe in such revengeful acts.

05:39Now,

05:40tell me,

05:41you are saying that,

05:42the judiciary should have done this.

05:43Now,

05:44the judicial system has been reformed in 26th May.

05:45After that,

05:46the face of the judiciary is a little different.

05:47We do not know that,

05:48in which direction,

05:49Justice Yaya Afridi,

05:50will take a decision,

05:51which the Chief Justice,

05:52the proven Chief Justice,

05:53will take.

05:54In your opinion,

05:55will the current judiciary,

05:56take things in some other direction?

05:58No,

05:59look,

06:00the judiciary is the same.

06:01The judges are also the same.

06:02Yes,

06:03in an institutional mechanism,

06:04with consensus,

06:05with political consensus,

06:06we have brought an improvement,

06:08in the segregation of constitutional cases,

06:10in the judicial commission,

06:12in the parliamentarian representation,

06:14we have brought a change in the way,

06:16Chief Justice is appointed,

06:18we have brought an improvement in the institutional mechanism.

06:20But,

06:21What reforms have you brought in the practice and procedure act?

06:23Look,

06:24you know that,

06:25an ordinance has already been issued.

06:26So,

06:27it becomes a permanent law,

06:28when it is taken in one house,

06:29when both the houses are passed.

06:30As is,

06:31ordinance,

06:32Yes,

06:33this is my information.

06:34Yes,

06:35this is my information.

06:36But,

06:37Maulana sir is saying,

06:38the 27th amendment,

06:39I mean,

06:40the 27th will obviously be constitutional.

06:41I don't know.

06:42Which amendment is the 27th?

06:43No,

06:44that is,

06:45look,

06:46the amendment is a separate exercise.

06:47But,

06:48when you talk about the practice and procedure act,

06:49then you will remember,

06:50that a few weeks ago,

06:51I think,

06:52that a practice and procedure ordinance was issued.

06:53So,

06:54definitely,

06:55it is a temporary law.

06:56As is,

06:57or is there any change in it?

06:58According to my information,

06:59as is.

07:00Because,

07:01it is a procedure,

07:02when an ordinance is issued,

07:03it has to be laid,

07:04to houses of parliament,

07:05from where,

07:06when it is passed from both houses,

07:07then it becomes a permanent law.

07:08At a certain time period,

07:09I think 120 days.

07:10But,

07:11which amendment is the 27th,

07:12in Bilal Azhar's house?

07:13No,

07:14Maulana sir has stated this,

07:15so only he can tell.

07:16As is.

07:17Yes,

07:18according to my knowledge,

07:19this is also the case.

07:20Look,

07:21it is possible.

07:22Look,

07:23legislation is a right of the parliament.

07:24But,

07:25till now,

07:26there is no such thing in my knowledge.

07:27But,

07:28definitely,

07:29but you have seen,

07:30for example,

07:31I will give you an example,

07:32that in the last few days,

07:33a law has been passed.

07:34Right.

07:35Now,

07:36if that case goes ahead,

07:37then that will also be a permanent law.

07:38But then,

07:39why would Maulana sir be against it?

07:40We will see that later.

07:41No,

07:42I can tell that better.

07:43Thank you very much,

07:44Bilal sir.

07:45It was a pleasure having you in the program.

07:46Let's go to the break.

07:47We will talk about some legal protection.

07:48And,

07:49we will talk about the legal team of MPTI.

07:50See you after the break.

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