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NSW Health Minister Ryan Park in Question Time | Illawarra Mercury | October 15
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10/21/2024
Ryan Park speaking about new legislation which would force private health insurers to pay more for single hospital rooms.
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My question is to the Minister for Health and Regional Health.
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Can the Minister please advise the House about the means Labor Government's work to ensure
00:08
that the taxpayers of New South Wales are getting their fair share from private health
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insurance?
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Minister.
00:13
A very good question and a very good advocate for the people of South West Sydney, particularly
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in and around services like Caritani, that I know he's had a very strong relationship
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on and we were recently able to expand.
00:29
This is an important piece of legislation that we have embarked on and started the process
00:36
this week.
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We don't have to use it, we don't have to use it, but I want to be clear to the people
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of New South Wales this.
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The Treasurer and I are not going to sit idle by and see $140 million ripped out of our
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system that taxpayers are forced to find when private health insurance companies are currently
00:56
receiving some of the largest profits in this country.
01:00
It is time, Mr. Speaker, with the demands on health care, with the demands on health
01:05
care staff, with the demands on services across New South Wales, it's time they pay their
01:11
fair way.
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And I want to outline this very, very clearly.
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In New South Wales, Mr. Speaker, it costs around about $1,075 a day to operate one of
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our beds.
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That's roughly the amount, not exact, but that's roughly the amount.
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$892 is what we charge private health insurers for that single room rate.
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Now that's important and I'm very pleased that around about 44 of the 53 private health
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insurance companies, Mr. Speaker, have come on board and said, that's fair, we'll pay
01:44
our own way, we'll pay our own way.
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There are a small group, there are a small group that is not happy with the 17% subsidy
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that we provide, the difference between the $1,075 and the $892.
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They want to provide, they want to pay just over $400 for that.
02:05
That would equate to, Mr. Speaker, about a 56% subsidy from taxpayers.
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Now I know comments today from some private health insurers that this will increase premiums.
02:17
Well, be careful of this, be careful of this, because under that theory, and let's pretend
02:23
that theory works, then premiums should have been reduced over the last few years because
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they haven't paid their way, because they haven't paid their way.
02:34
Now that's fairly easy to understand.
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If the theory was, this will increase premiums that way, then that theory would reverse opposite,
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that premiums should have been going down when they didn't pay it.
02:49
Mr. Speaker, that hasn't happened.
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Now I'm interested in what the opposition do, because we've done some checks on Hansard,
03:00
and this was a bill that I think Treasurer Baird introduced, 2012-13, had a support of
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it.
03:08
So they supported it.
03:09
Mr. Speaker, we know a lot of people over there supported it back there because we were
03:24
in the opposition for a long time, and those of us who were here since 2011, 2013, it was
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their side and government, just for the people in the gallery.
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They supported it.
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So I'm assuming they'll support it this time.
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I'm assuming they'll support it.
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As the Premier said, trying to find where they sit on things is a bit difficult.
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But I would have thought, Mr. Speaker, I would have thought on these few facts, you'd back
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it in.
03:54
We always know at the moment, every single person in this chamber knows at the moment
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that healthcare is under extreme pressure and demand.
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In fact, we know that healthcare workers doing these services and carrying out these
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services are under extreme demand at the moment.
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We also know that the cost of health services are increasing.
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So I would have thought at a time when the government is already providing a 17% subsidy,
04:25
and that 44 out of 53 health insurers have said, we'll get on board, that I think you
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would read the tea leaves and say it might be a good idea to back public healthcare,
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back the delivery of health services, back the community who expect those delivery of
04:43
health services.
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So, Mr. Speaker, Mr. Speaker, we will continue to have discussions and negotiations with
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private health insurers.
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The Treasurer and I have made that very, very clear.
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We don't need to enact this legislation, but I'll make it very clear to them.
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The time is coming to get on board and the time is coming to pay your way.
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The people of New South Wales have subsidised you for too long.
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And just the same way that Treasurer Baird demand fairness in the system, so too do the
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Treasurer and I.
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