PTI Nay Protest ki Call Dekar Kiya Khoya kiya Paya...? Kashif Abbasi's Revelations

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00:00Mr. Dhani, please stay with us. Mr. Kashif Abbasi, it has been developed now that

00:04the PTI has been confirmed. It has not been confirmed officially, but we all know that it is not happening.

00:09Now there will be an official statement or tweet on this.

00:12I was watching your show. You were saying that the government should also be facilitated for meetings.

00:17And PTI should not have met on the occasion of SCO. That is fine.

00:20But you tell me, in the current situation of PTI, has PTI gained anything from this move?

00:26Or did it lose? You announced it on the day of SCO and then took it back.

00:32Did it gain or lose?

00:35It did not gain anything.

00:37What it lost is that even after the last protest, PTI's leadership lost a lot of its face.

00:46People did not know what to do with their supporters in Islamabad.

00:51Mr. Ali Ameen went to have tea. The rest of the leadership remained hidden.

00:56And there was a worker in Islamabad's D-Chowk. There was no leader.

01:01Even now when you gave the call, someone said that I will take the sea to Islamabad.

01:07Someone else said that if you bring the sea, I will bring a bigger sea.

01:12But believe me, no one knew what to do till evening.

01:16I was on the phone in the evening.

01:18Momin, you made a set of calls.

01:21What is the plan?

01:22Yes.

01:23No one knew about the plan.

01:25Whether to come or not to come.

01:27All this planning was happening on the hope that the government will arrange a meeting

01:32and we will become a lion and move back from there.

01:37Sir, that was the case.

01:38They will say, okay, the work is done.

01:39You saw, they did not arrange a meeting.

01:41Now they will say, look, at 11 o'clock in the night,

01:43let's arrange a meeting for the sake of God.

01:45For God's sake, cancel it.

01:46We did it.

01:47Go ahead, cancel it.

01:48No?

01:49But has the meeting been arranged yet?

01:51No, but they are saying that this is because of PIMS doctors in the morning.

01:55Yes, but look, they also said that the government will give them face-saving.

02:01But they knew, as far as I know, that the meeting will take place.

02:06Yes.

02:07This meeting will take place.

02:08We will call off our protest.

02:10We will also become a lion.

02:12We will also say, look, we put our feet on our necks and got our words.

02:16Otherwise, you think, on the 11th, they said, come on the 15th.

02:20Four-day gap.

02:21If we had to do 15, we would have done 18.

02:23Otherwise, we would have done 11-12.

02:25So, a lot of problems were present in their place at that time as well.

02:29So, justice was done in a very haphazard way.

02:32Look, in just 15 days, two times Liamin Ganapur reached Islamabad with his caravan.

02:37When he came to Islamabad last time, you know, he has this number of KP.

02:42That our 500 to 1000 workers who came from KP are still sitting in different jails in Islamabad.

02:49Yes, yes.

02:50Taking these people out every day, bringing them to Islamabad.

02:54They say we don't even have those machines.

02:56They had announced that we are ready, we will go.

02:59Those machines are also forced to Islamabad.

03:02So, all this build-up was going on on this hope that there was a protest in Islamabad.

03:09If this option is also exhausted, how many times can you repeat this exercise?

03:142, 3, 4, 5, 6.

03:16If this is also exhausted, then the problem will not increase.

03:19Then the other side will not be able to share.

03:21Brother, tell me what will you do now?

03:22You have also done this.

03:23Tell me what will you do now?

03:25He is absolutely right.

03:26See, for example, you pace it out.

03:29You keep space in it.

03:32You don't exhaust your workers either.

03:35You keep your political options open.

03:37Political parties run like this.

03:39They become Tarzan and call for protest every day.

03:43Let me tell you, there are two big leaders in justice.

03:47The competition between the two has given this call.

03:49Yes.

03:50One said I am coming.

03:51Now the other could not stay behind.

03:53The competition is very tough.

03:54They don't get along with each other.

03:55The leaders of Punjab and Khyber Pakhtunkhwa.

03:58So the other said, okay, you come.

03:59So I will have to come too.

04:01So in this competition, one has to bring the sea.

04:04The other said, okay, I will also bring the sea.

04:06Although everyone knew that if Hammad Azhar and Ali Ameen Gandapur.

04:12Hammad Azhar is already underground.

04:14How do they come out?

04:15Ali Ameen has come twice.

04:16It is very difficult for him to come for the third time.

04:19So these two people are in competition with each other.

04:22But even today, believe me, I called a big senior leader.

04:26One of our friends from PTI said, sir, what is the plan?

04:29He said, there is no plan.

04:30I have no idea.

04:32Hopefully, this whole game is going on.

04:35Let me tell you the last thing.

04:36Friends from PTI say that this is a build-up.

04:40That is, the build-up was that on 4th October, D-Chowk.

04:43On 5th October, Minar-e-Pakistan.

04:45Then GT Road.

04:46All this happened.

04:47Then Islamabad's call.

04:48Which was supposed to happen on 15th.

04:49Now it will happen after a few days.

04:50Then Dharna.

04:52So do you think this is the call of Dharna?

04:55Is it such a final call that the government is still afraid of?

04:57That to avoid this Dharna, do anything but avoid this.

05:01Or do you think they have also seen that this is it?

05:03Okay.

05:04Four shells will run.

05:05Two will be this.

05:06But it will be managed.

05:08See, if you ask me,

05:09I will find justice more uncomfortable in both of them.

05:14Because justice has to do a lot to bring people.

05:17Yes.

05:18To prepare people mentally first.

05:20Then to bring Islamabad.

05:21And then to make them sit.

05:23This is not such an easy job.

05:24There are no people of Avtaar-ul-Qadri who will sit.

05:26Right.

05:28I will find justice more difficult.

05:30If you ask me today.

05:31Right.

05:32The government knows that I can crack down.

05:34I can do this, I can do that.

05:35And most of the people came and sat.

05:38They didn't sit.

05:40How many days will they sit?

05:41When there was support from the entire sector,

05:43the government could not open the Dharna.

05:45If the government could not open the Dharna in the past,

05:48then I will think that if I am in the government,

05:50that the government could not open the Dharna even today.

05:52Thank you, Mr. Kashyap.

05:53Thank you, sir.

05:54Thank you very much.

05:55Mr. Kashyap was telling me.

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