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'Neither side is doing all it can yet'
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9/23/2024
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00:00
Iris, getting to you, can you tell us more about what Benjamin Netanyahu had to say?
00:03
Yes, I can tell you that he was speaking in English, I think not for the people of Lebanon.
00:08
I think this was a message for the international community because it ends with, this is going
00:13
to be short, you can return to your homes.
00:16
The people of Lebanon, as we heard from our Beirut correspondent, they got those messages
00:20
this morning, you know, on their phones that one of the Lebanese telcos said there were
00:24
80,000 calls made from Israel telling people to leave.
00:29
You could see the size of the movement of people.
00:32
There were even apparently interruptions of Lebanese radio stations by Israel with the
00:38
message, you know, get out now, get out while you're safe.
00:41
We've just heard from the Defence Force spokesperson, that's the Israeli Defence Force spokesperson,
00:47
Daniel Hagari.
00:48
This is the third time he's spoken today.
00:51
Earlier, he told the people of southern Lebanon they had to go.
00:55
After that, he said, the size of the explosions you're seeing are because we're hitting stockpiles
01:01
of weapons.
01:03
That's what you see going up in, you know, in these explosions that you are seeing in
01:07
southern Lebanon.
01:08
And what we just heard from him now was a confirmation that there have been 1,300 targets
01:13
struck and he showed pictures of some houses where the launchers are actually in the roofs
01:20
of the houses, you know, heading out.
01:23
I think what is significant about this, this largest one-day attack since the 2006 war,
01:30
since the Lebanon, the last, the second Lebanon war, I think what is significant is that nevertheless
01:36
neither side is doing all it can yet.
01:40
Israel is not hitting the long range precision guided missiles that Hezbollah has.
01:45
Hezbollah is not firing them.
01:46
It's not hitting central Tel Aviv, central Jerusalem, even though I do hear the planes
01:50
going overhead.
01:52
So the question is, where does this go as both sides escalate, still trying to hold
01:58
themselves back a little?
01:59
Is that maintainable, sustainable in such a situation?
02:03
Iris, you mentioned 1,300 Hezbollah targets hit by Israel today.
02:07
Tell us about Hezbollah's response.
02:10
We've heard now, just now, that there's been over 200 rockets fired into Israel.
02:16
Initially, in the first days of this war of attrition, it was about 500,000 people who
02:23
were within the range of the rockets that Hezbollah fired.
02:27
Now there's a million and a half people.
02:29
Israel has closed schools.
02:32
It's moved hospitals underground.
02:34
It's closed airspace in the north of Israel so that the only thing that will be flying
02:39
will be rockets and Israeli military planes and intercepts, of course.
02:43
So there will be no accidents with civilian aircraft.
02:47
Everything is on an emergency footing.
02:49
They're building field hospitals in the north of the country.
02:52
So you really do feel that they're preparing for a war, even though you still see from
02:59
the fact that it is an escalation, but not a full escalation.
03:04
You do still see that both sides are not using their full force.
03:11
It's plain that Washington doesn't want this at this moment or indeed at all.
03:15
It's not clear what Iran wants, but they are currently reaching out feelers to Washington
03:20
saying they want to negotiate or renegotiate the nuclear arms deal.
03:26
So perhaps they don't want this at this time either.
03:29
And because you've got the two sponsors, if you like, not keen on a war now, perhaps there
03:35
won't be that full scale war that could lead, it's estimated conservatively, to thousands
03:40
dead on both sides, possibly tens of thousands.
03:43
The Israeli military operation continues in the Gaza Strip.
03:46
I think it's worthwhile pointing it out to people.
03:48
The pressure for a peace deal then becomes even more important.
03:53
It does, because in many ways, the diplomatic solution depends on a peace deal in Gaza.
03:59
What Hezbollah has said all along is that if there is the war in Gaza stops, then they
04:04
stop firing.
04:05
I don't know if that's still the situation after the past week, but nevertheless, up
04:08
to the past week, up to this escalation, that was their position all along.
04:13
So what people here are saying, what people who are interested in diplomatic solutions,
04:17
what we're hearing from Europe, what we're hearing from Washington, is that the key to
04:21
this is a resolution of the war in Gaza, which would mean a resolution for Gaza, for the
04:27
Israeli hostages held in Gaza, and for the North, that perhaps the solution has to be
04:33
diplomatic with both sides, North and South.
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