"Is Waqt Hamare Numbers Puray Nahi...PTI Kay Sath Baat Horahi....Rana Sana Ullah Big Revelations

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00:00It is seen as a mismanagement that the government could have tackled this situation in a better way.

00:08They could have given compensation earlier.

00:10Everything could have been done earlier but they didn't.

00:12Was it a mismanagement of the government?

00:15This is their own point of view.

00:22When the government thought about judicial reforms and other reforms in the constitution,

00:37which are relevant and have been discussed for a long time,

00:50and some decisions were taken which highlighted the importance of these things,

00:59wouldn't there have been a consultation with the People's Party?

01:05And the People's Party would have just said yes and then said, let's go ahead.

01:13All these consultations were conducted with the other parties of the government,

01:19including MQM, IPP, Q League.

01:26And this discussion lasted for 3-4 weeks, more than a month.

01:33Everyone knew that this was happening.

01:35It was also in the media that they were doing this and that.

01:39So this whole process has been going on.

01:42Rana sahib, this was not a matter of the unions.

01:45It was a matter of Maulana Fazlur Rehman sahib.

01:47Even by including the unions, your numbers were not being fulfilled.

01:50Your numbers were around 213-214.

01:53So in this situation, it was a matter of Maulana sahib.

01:56It was a matter of Maulana sahib because all our allies,

02:01if we include all of them, our votes become 211.

02:05Or now it is 213.

02:08So there is a difference of 11 votes.

02:13So it was very important that at least 8-10, 11 members of a party or group

02:24should sit with them and take these things on board.

02:32So then we spoke to Maulana sahib.

02:35Our negotiation team, I think, had a number of meetings with him.

02:43And when the matter reached a positive conclusion,

02:50then President sahib went with the negotiation team and Prime Minister sahib also went.

02:58So there, I think, there was a lack of understanding.

03:14On one hand, it was understood that Maulana has finalized the matter.

03:20Whereas Maulana was agreeable to some things.

03:25But he had some reservations about some things.

03:28So when this last phase started, on which a meeting was called,

03:33then these things were discussed and in those days,

03:38there was a consensus on many things and they were dropped.

03:43But in the meantime, Maulana sahib's suggestion came,

03:49with which the People's Party also agreed later,

03:52Bilawal Bhutto Zardari sahib said,

03:54that we should expand this act of consensus,

03:57we should increase its scope.

04:00Rana sahib, you have said a very important thing.

04:02I am sorry, I am cutting the show.

04:03You have talked about expanding the scope.

04:05So at that time also, at night, the information minister said,

04:08that Maulana sahib is also talking to the opposition at this time.

04:11The opposition at this time is Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf.

04:14So did the discussion start with Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf at that time

04:17and is the discussion still going on after that?

04:19No, look, this thing is done at that time.

04:26Why wasn't it done earlier?

04:29Earlier, they used to say that we are not ready to talk to them.

04:33Earlier, Bani PTI or PTI,

04:40because that is the opinion of the Bani of the Jamaat,

04:45they used to say that Maulana, People's Party, MQM, PMLN,

04:51we will not talk to them.

04:53We are not ready to sit with anyone.

04:56So now you have seen that the number of times

05:00they have talked to Maulana sahib in this regard,

05:05and then that special committee,

05:07in which all the Jamaats are included,

05:09in which PMLN is also included,

05:11in which People's Party is also included,

05:13in which MQM is also included,

05:15in that special committee,

05:17I think they have come forward six times.

05:19So is the discussion still going on with Maulana sahib?

05:21So when this situation was created,

05:23So when this situation was created,

05:27then this concept came up,

05:30or this thing came up that

05:32it should be expanded a little

05:35and it should be tried that

05:37if there is no consensus,

05:39then the amendments should be made

05:42in the constitution

05:44in the near future.

05:46in the near future.

05:48So when the consensus was expanded,

05:50then the discussion is still going on with PTI.

05:52Is this confirmation?

05:54No, it is still going on with everyone.

05:57Including PTI?

05:59Including PTI.

06:01Because PTI is now ready to sit with other Jamaats

06:05and talk to them.

06:07Even before this,

06:09many times,

06:11I have personally been a witness to this,

06:16and I still say that

06:18in the parliamentary system,

06:20there is no other option

06:22other than dialogue

06:24to solve any issue.

06:26There is no other option

06:28to solve any issue.

06:30Rana sahib, Khawaja Asif sahib is saying

06:32that PTI was discussed before this,

06:34this is not a new thing,

06:36and they said that

06:38they will bring it in December,

06:40some leaves will fall,

06:42it will be the season for leaves to fall,

06:44so things will settle down,

06:46they will bring this amendment in December,

06:48then the matter will be seen.

06:50Is this correct?

06:52Yes, I don't know.

06:54So according to you,

06:56there was no discussion with PTI

06:58because they were not ready to talk.

07:00Yes, on record,

07:02this is the situation.

07:04On record,

07:06the special committee

07:08that has been formed in the Parliament,

07:10in which the leadership

07:12of all the Jamaats is present,

07:14the senior leadership of PTI

07:16is present in the Parliament,

07:18he is a member,

07:20and he has attended

07:22all the meetings,

07:24probably 4-6 meetings,

07:26he has taken part,

07:28he has given his point of view,

07:30and he has said that

07:32if we get approval,

07:34tell us which draft

07:36or the working paper,

07:38in fact yesterday

07:40in the Speaker's Chamber

07:42we spoke to some of his friends,

07:44they demanded this,

07:46and I think the Speaker

07:48took the responsibility

07:50that I will send the working paper to you.

07:52So the working paper has been sent to them,

07:54Mr. Rana, because the biggest problem

07:56was that no one had a draft.

07:58JUI was saying that we don't have a draft,

08:00and some people

08:02from the People's Party

08:04were also saying that

08:06the draft was not given,

08:08so PTI is a far-fetched thing.

08:10No, it is not a draft,

08:12the draft or the bill

08:14will be given only when

08:16it is approved by the Cabinet.

08:18Right now it can be a working paper,

08:20and there are 2-3 working papers

08:22in this regard,

08:24first there was one,

08:26then when we spoke to Maulana,

08:28after the deletion

08:30another working paper was made,

08:32after that a final

08:34working paper was made,

08:36which will form the basis

08:38or will form the basis

08:40when these negotiations are completed.

08:42Right.

08:44So was that given to Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf,

08:46Mr. Rana?

08:48Yes, to my information,

08:50yesterday I spoke to the Speaker,

08:52and the Speaker

08:54had promised,

08:56and I think he must have reached.

08:58Right.

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