224 say 248 ??? Kiya PTI kay Arkan Hukumat Kay Sath? Rana Sanaullah's Analysis

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224 say 248 ??? Kiya PTI kay Arkan Hukumat Kay Sath? Rana Sanaullah's Analysis
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00:00Because the session has been delayed for an indefinite period, right?
00:03So when will this happen?
00:04How long will this consensus, which you are talking about, be met?
00:08The session for an indefinite period can be called in the next 24 hours.
00:18Within 24 hours.
00:20If the Speaker wishes, the session can be held tomorrow evening at 5 pm.
00:26The matter is that the efforts to create this consensus did not stop for a moment.
00:33We had a meeting yesterday, then the People's Party had a meeting with each other.
00:39We met with the Prime Minister.
00:41We met with Mr. Maulana.
00:43Yesterday, as I have said, we met with a friend of PTI, the Speaker.
00:50So this matter is going on and there is an urgency to it.
00:56Some people say, what was the hurry?
00:59No, there is an urgency to it.
01:00What is the urgency, Mr. Rana?
01:01The reason is that these things are…
01:03The urgency is that when the matter is discussed,
01:11if your required number is 224 and the consensus has been reached till 213-214,
01:20then if you go closer and make more efforts,
01:27then it is possible that this 224 becomes 248.
01:31248?
01:32And…
01:33Mr. Rana, will PTI stand with you?
01:35Because on one hand, you are trying to develop a consensus.
01:38On the other hand, Mr. Ali Ameen Gandapur is saying that this is an attack on democracy
01:41and we will not let this attack succeed.
01:45Okay, if they make a few more such attacks, then maybe our problem will be solved.
01:51How is that?
01:54No, you know, the kind of conversation he is having,
01:59today he has spoken in such a way that it is as if he is stopping everything.
02:06And the reason for this,
02:10there is no doubt that Maulana Fazl Rehman Sahib,
02:16for all the other Jamaats that were out of this confluence,
02:23he has gained time to talk to all of them as well.
02:28Mr. Lehran, the thing you are saying…
02:30He has even gone to them.
02:32It is imprinted on my mind that instead of 224, it should be 238.
02:35Where will 238 come from?
02:37And from what you are saying, it seems to me that some work has been done.
02:42No, look, when a work is done,
02:48then before presenting the work,
02:52then such a thing,
02:55sometimes, in fact, even at this time,
02:58it is not appropriate.
03:00But the thing is that an effort is being made.
03:03And in that effort, there is a possibility of success.
03:07Because, look, first of all, there is the issue of the Constitutional Court.
03:11And secondly, the Elevation in Higher Judiciary.
03:15The methodology of that,
03:18the pen that is there,
03:20that you get two of your people to do it,
03:23and three of them should do it for me.
03:25Maulana Sahib has already consented to that, right?
03:28Yes, on both of these,
03:30it will be in the details,
03:32that the Chief Justice should not do it in this way,
03:34let him do it in another way.
03:36This should not be done, okay,
03:38let the Judicial Commission do it.
03:40This is not an issue.
03:42But the basic structure of both these things,
03:45on that, I do not see,
03:49that even PTI,
03:51their esteemed colleagues,
03:56law-knowing, or law graduates, lawyers,
04:00they also agree.
04:02Rest, look, rest of the other things,
04:04Law graduates, Maulana Sahib,
04:06then Barrister Gauhar has also become one,
04:08Barrister Ali Zafar has also become one,
04:10in this, maybe Hamid Khan Sahib has also become one.
04:12I am not taking the names of those esteemed colleagues,
04:16so that their poor people do not get a chance to take my name.
04:20You have not gone to meet them.
04:22Okay, just tell us this, Rana Sahib,
04:24when are we going to see this,
04:26this bill, this amendment,
04:30when are we seeing that?
04:34Look, I have not made any such claim before,
04:39in fact, I have always said,
04:41that we do not have the complete numbers,
04:43if the numbers are complete, then it will be done.
04:46Now the numbers are complete?
04:48No, they are not complete at the moment.
04:51Okay.
04:52If they were complete, then the amendment would have been done.
04:55But the numbers are not complete,
04:57and to complete the numbers,
04:59the process of consultation is going on.
05:01To create a consensus,
05:04is for this purpose only,
05:06that if the numbers are complete, then the consensus is done.
05:09Then the numbers are complete.
05:11And how long are you going to see this,
05:12the consensus being done?
05:13I know that you give it in the dates,
05:14but still, what is your political vision telling you,
05:16that how long will the consensus be done?
05:20Look, I think that,
05:24in the first week of October,
05:26as soon as the Prime Minister is going to the UN General Assembly,
05:30when he comes back,
05:32I think that until then,
05:34these two,
05:36two or three things,
05:38about which I have spoken,
05:40on these,
05:42I can see that,
05:44on their details,
05:46there is still a consensus,
05:48even today,
05:50with the exception of Zahir Zabar.
05:52It is a matter of sitting down,
05:54in front of each other,
05:56to finalize it,
05:58and to lock it.
06:00So where is the matter stuck, Mr. Karan?
06:02Before that, we should not talk.
06:04Where is the matter stuck, basically?
06:06Look,
06:08the matter is,
06:10it was on age,
06:12on age,
06:14Maulana's reservation,
06:16But on age,
06:18the government agreed,
06:20and I think it still is.
06:22And,
06:24after that,
06:26I think, to Maulana's extent,
06:28the matter was very ordinary.
06:30It was in a few parts,
06:32as you mentioned a few things,
06:34that how will this happen,
06:36how will this happen.
06:38But Maulana's thing was,
06:40that today,
06:42like this,
06:44the standoff has been going on since 10 in the morning.
06:46So, let's not do this.
06:48So, in this,
06:50let's gain some time,
06:52and instead of being graceful,
06:54and hasty,
06:56let's do this,
06:58in a better way,
07:00in a balanced way,
07:02let's move forward.
07:04After that, let's bring this.
07:06So, I think,
07:08in the first, second week,
07:10this matter,
07:12to this extent,
07:14it is possible that a lot of things
07:16may not be there,
07:18but to this extent,
07:20to this extent,
07:22I think, after consensus,
07:24this can be done.

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