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Mustafa Nawaz Khokhar's analysis on Pakistan's current poltics
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9/11/2024
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I would like to ask Mr. Meherbano Qureshi, who is with me from Lahore, about democracy.
00:05
Because it is very interesting for him that his father is in jail and his brother is also in jail.
00:11
And this is the democracy of this country.
00:13
In which, as it was said today, it is okay to go to jail. It's not okay.
00:20
In which country in the world is it okay to go to jail?
00:22
If you are a politician, it's okay, you will go to jail.
00:25
Jail goes to the one who has done two things.
00:27
Mr. Khokhar, start with you.
00:28
These are the realities of our country.
00:31
Unfortunate realities.
00:32
Unfortunate realities.
00:33
One good day, I was very happy when I heard it.
00:36
I saw all the proceedings with great pleasure.
00:40
But we also know that these are all just words.
00:43
Because from this very parliament, what you are talking about doing,
00:47
you are also going to make a legislation.
00:49
And that legislation is for your political interests.
00:51
Like the previous legislations.
00:53
How can a politician go ahead with this?
00:56
Yes, thank you.
00:57
Brother Kashif, you have said a lot in the beginning.
01:02
And I don't think it is necessary to go back to their details.
01:07
But if we keep in mind the challenges of this country,
01:11
the seriousness of the situation, the gravity of the crisis,
01:15
then believe me, this was a very good day.
01:19
It was a very good message for this nation.
01:21
Thank God.
01:23
In this country, you are not able to create a consensus on terrorism.
01:28
This is your biggest challenge.
01:31
In that, the police of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa are protesting on the streets.
01:36
And if you look at their demands,
01:39
then the seriousness of the situation,
01:42
and a person's heart is so worried that
01:45
where are we taking this state, this country,
01:47
the 25 crore people who live in it, to?
01:51
Now, what does the police there say?
01:53
They say that the security forces should withdraw.
01:57
We will clear our areas ourselves.
02:01
We will clear them in three months.
02:04
With whom you have to fight shoulder to shoulder.
02:07
You have to fight against the enemies of Pakistan.
02:10
Today, your own people,
02:14
believe the police of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa,
02:17
that protesting on the streets is not a small thing.
02:22
Then, a few weeks ago...
02:24
Protesting is not a small thing,
02:27
but what it is being done for is a bigger thing.
02:30
Exactly.
02:31
Then, a few weeks ago,
02:34
a big-time politician from Balochistan,
02:38
Mr. Mengel, resigned from this National Assembly
02:41
because it was meaningless.
02:44
Why did he resign?
02:45
He says that the situation in Balochistan today,
02:48
all the politicians there,
02:50
are not able to answer the questions of the youth and the public.
02:54
And the biggest question that is being asked of them,
02:57
not only in Balochistan, but in the whole country,
03:00
is what is the status of this parliamentary system?
03:03
What is the point of sticking to the constitution,
03:06
the democracy, the process?
03:13
This is the most dangerous question
03:15
that is being created in the minds of the youth in Pakistan today.
03:17
What does the parliament give to anyone?
03:19
What does the parliament give to anyone?
03:21
And where this question is being asked,
03:23
there you see the bravery,
03:25
that in the last hour of the night,
03:27
at 3 in the morning,
03:28
you wear a mask and people enter there.
03:31
Where this dangerous question is presented to the society,
03:34
to this state,
03:35
there you should be more sensitive.
03:38
That even if we make a mistake,
03:40
we should not take such a wrong step.
03:42
And there you enter at 3 in the morning,
03:44
turn off the lights of the parliament,
03:46
and search for the MNAs with torches.
03:48
Did you listen to Atta Tarar?
03:50
He said that no one has gone inside.
03:52
Did you listen?
03:53
So, it's amazing.
03:54
Did you run it?
03:56
I will tell you now.
03:57
Yes, listen.
03:58
This is,
03:59
I just want to tell Atta Tarar,
04:01
that no one has gone inside.
04:06
Some videos came in your notice,
04:08
some evidence came out that no one was picked up from inside the house.
04:11
And the day before yesterday,
04:12
some lines were crossed.
04:13
And Mr. Khair said that the lines were crossed,
04:15
so is his reaction justified or not?
04:18
That also one has to understand.
04:20
Now, without a doubt,
04:22
even if we don't discuss this on TV channels,
04:26
but the last meeting of the Khyber Pakhtunkhwa Assembly,
04:30
these are very alarming things for the federation,
04:36
which need to be paid attention to.
04:38
And in all these contexts,
04:40
even today, there is a crisis.
04:41
Look, our economy is in a slump right now.
04:43
We don't know that the IMF...
04:44
No one is talking about it.
04:45
No one is talking about it.
04:46
Because such big political issues have arisen,
04:48
that no one is talking about the economic crisis of the mountains.
04:51
We have been repeatedly told by the Minister of Treasury,
04:55
that within a week,
04:57
Pakistan's case is being taken by the IMF board,
04:59
and we will get a loan there.
05:01
And that is not happening.
05:02
And that is not happening.
05:03
And that is not happening.
05:04
We have this question,
05:05
Kashif Bhai,
05:06
believe us,
05:07
realize their seriousness,
05:09
that today, those countries,
05:11
the IMF has said,
05:12
that you should get guarantees from them.
05:14
The closest countries to Pakistan,
05:17
who have stood with Pakistan in every difficulty,
05:19
in the past,
05:20
in the past 76 years,
05:21
why are they reluctant today?
05:23
We are not giving you guarantees.
05:24
We are not getting it right now.
05:25
We are not getting it right now.
05:26
We are not getting it right now.
05:27
May Allah make it happen.
05:28
May Allah make it happen.
05:29
May Allah make it happen.
05:30
We all want it.
05:31
But the request is that the seriousness of the situation
05:33
has reached such a level,
05:34
that keeping that context in mind,
05:35
I believe that the speeches of today,
05:38
I welcome them.
05:39
This country needs political consensus.
05:42
And this spirit,
05:44
it should move forward,
05:45
so that the lives of 25 crore people,
05:47
who are on stake right now,
05:49
will not be harmed further.
05:50
Mr. Barrister,
05:51
the problem is,
05:52
will it remain for one day,
05:54
or will it be used as a platform,
05:57
and will it be built further?
05:59
See,
06:00
we often,
06:01
half an island comes out in between,
06:03
15, 20, 25, 30,
06:05
after very bloody days,
06:07
good speeches are made.
06:09
We have seen this before.
06:10
Will it remain for one or two days?
06:12
Thank you very much, Kashif bhai.
06:13
First of all,
06:14
the whole package that you have run,
06:17
and what Mr. Atta has said,
06:19
and what Mr. Speaker has said,
06:21
and what Mr. IG has said,
06:22
first of all,
06:24
I outrightly condemn this.
06:26
With MNAs,
06:27
arrest from within the parliament,
06:29
this is not their privilege.
06:31
It has happened, right?
06:32
See, if it has happened,
06:33
because they have formed an inquiry committee,
06:36
and if I say that
06:37
when the inquiry committee
06:38
will fizzle out this entire matter,
06:40
and these things will be revealed,
06:42
first of all,
06:43
they have suspended the MNAs from today,
06:45
after that,
06:46
I think that
06:47
the IG police is giving this statement.
06:48
The media was standing outside,
06:49
you know,
06:50
videos were being made,
06:51
cars were being fired.
06:52
See,
06:53
I say this,
06:54
even outside the parliament,
06:55
if they have done something wrong,
06:56
they could have been arrested from somewhere else.
06:57
Why was it that
06:58
they were arrested even outside the parliament?
06:59
What is wrong,
07:00
is wrong.
07:01
I will never stand with what is wrong.
07:03
But what you are saying,
07:04
that today,
07:05
a very good consensus has developed,
07:07
there was a very good atmosphere,
07:08
this should happen in the future also.
07:10
At least,
07:11
the polarization,
07:12
the direction we have reached,
07:14
which political party is there,
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which political party is there,
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which political party is there,
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which political party is there,
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which political party is there,
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which political party is there,
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which political party is there,
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which political party is there,
07:29
which political party is there,
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which political party is there,
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which political party is there,
07:32
which political party is there,
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