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Karachi Ke masail Ke Liye Koi Sanjeeda Kyun Nahi..? Sabiq Adminstrator Karachi Ka Ahem Bayan
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9/10/2024
Karachi Ke masail Ke Liye Koi Sanjeeda Kyun Nahi..? Sabiq Adminstrator Karachi Ka Ahem Bayan
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00:00
Karachi is a city that needs a court that can solve its problems.
00:10
If we talk about Karachi, the Contentment Board looks at some areas of Karachi,
00:16
the DHA is seen somewhere, then the Mayor of Karachi comes,
00:20
the KMC looks at different areas, then the Town Nazmeen comes,
00:25
and when the cases are not settled, then there is a series of indictments.
00:30
The recent rains, there were a lot of predictions that it will rain a lot,
00:35
and it will rain 200 mm, and after that God knows what will happen,
00:40
but it did not rain that much, but the roads, despite less rain,
00:45
were still not enough.
00:47
Now in the city, you see the traffic jams every day,
00:49
where there are protests on the basis of different reasons,
00:51
and the biggest problem there is that the roads are not enough,
00:54
and where there was water earlier, and poor construction was done,
00:58
the roads have disappeared from there.
01:00
Now what is the matter?
01:02
We spoke to the Mayor of Karachi in the morning show,
01:06
and we told him that okay, you will make the roads better,
01:09
but those who did not make the roads right before,
01:12
what action will be taken against them?
01:14
Obviously, how should it be done against them?
01:16
But now the news has come that with the cost of 2 billion rupees,
01:19
the city has asked for a tender for the repair of the roads, bridges,
01:22
and sewerage lines, and for the emergency work.
01:25
And then it is that the work of repair is also being handed over to KMC,
01:28
Mahakamha Engineering, and this is the same Mahakamha,
01:31
which was also responsible for the poor construction.
01:35
That is, they had damaged the roads, and now they are being handed over
01:39
to do the same repair work.
01:41
So we spoke to Mr. Murtaza Wahab in our morning show,
01:45
a few days ago, when these rains were happening,
01:48
what was his opinion on the construction of the roads at that time?
01:51
First, let's see.
01:53
I agree with you that the quality of the roads was not right,
01:58
there was probably some issue with the sewerage,
02:01
we need to address these issues.
02:03
And I say this as the Mayor of the city of Karachi,
02:06
that now our strategy is to start the process of rehabilitating the roads
02:11
immediately after the rains.
02:13
I have told the engineers that you have to make sure
02:16
that there is no compromise on quality, number one.
02:19
Number two, I have told them that there will be no payment of the contractor
02:23
until the third-party consultant verifies that
02:26
there is no compromise on quality and quantity.
02:32
Okay, let's start the discussion here.
02:37
We have with us Mr. Faheem Uzama,
02:39
a former administrator of Karachi,
02:41
and he has a close eye on the issues of Karachi.
02:43
Thank you so much for joining us, sir.
02:45
Please tell us, the reason for the complaint
02:48
that the roads were not constructed properly,
02:51
and the contract is being given again,
02:54
why are the roads so poor in Karachi?
02:57
This is also a part of Pakistan.
02:59
This is not the case in other cities of Pakistan.
03:02
It is not the case in Lahore,
03:04
where there is water after the rains.
03:06
It is not the case in Islamabad,
03:08
where the drainage system is better,
03:10
but it is so poor that the roads are not visible.
03:12
Why is this?
03:14
First of all, thank you for including me in the program.
03:44
There is no need for a permanent consultant.
03:46
Look, before a road is constructed,
03:48
a road is designed.
03:50
It is called a book.
03:52
The tender documents say that
03:54
there is a design before that.
03:56
The department decides.
03:58
If there is a major road,
04:00
then it is done by a consultant.
04:02
Once it is designed,
04:04
according to that,
04:06
it is tendered.
04:08
In the process of tendering,
04:10
it is kept safe.
04:12
Contractors respond.
04:14
There is a sub-base under the road.
04:16
There is a base.
04:18
At the end,
04:20
there is a black top.
04:22
In short,
04:24
there is a glass of steel.
04:26
There is a pipe of that type.
04:28
There is a pipe of that type.
04:30
There is a pipe of that type.
04:32
There is a pipe of that type.
04:34
There is a pipe of that type.
04:36
There is a pipe of that type.
04:38
There is a pipe of that type.
04:40
There is a pipe of that type.
04:42
At any place,
04:44
the supervising engineer
04:46
checks it.
04:48
Along with that,
04:50
the entire road
04:52
comes out of it.
04:54
He finds out that
04:56
if there was a 3-inch sub-base,
04:58
it was there.
05:00
If there was a 2-inch base,
05:02
it was not there.
05:04
All these things are present.
05:06
The mayor is very innocent.
05:08
He may not know about these things.
05:10
He may not know about these things.
05:12
No one has educated him in these matters.
05:14
Why is he so innocent?
05:16
Why is he so innocent?
05:18
Before he became the mayor,
05:20
he was the administrator of the city.
05:22
He was the administrator of the city.
05:24
Why is he so ignorant?
05:26
Why is he so innocent?
05:28
I cannot answer that.
05:30
I cannot answer that.
05:32
What I mean to say is that
05:34
it is not the mayor's responsibility.
05:36
It is the department's responsibility.
05:38
It is the department's responsibility.
05:40
It is the department's responsibility.
05:42
In May 1994-95,
05:44
it rained heavily.
05:46
Along with the park colony,
05:48
there was a water line.
05:50
There was a water line.
05:52
Its trench was built
05:54
before the rains.
05:56
The entire line collapsed.
05:58
From the superintendent engineer,
06:00
who was in-charge of the district west,
06:02
to the inspector,
06:04
everyone was suspended
06:06
and an inquiry was conducted against them.
06:08
You tell me,
06:10
roads worth billions of rupees
06:12
are being built and will be built.
06:14
What is the problem?
06:16
If the system is such
06:18
that we have to take only commissions,
06:20
then,
06:22
you will dig my back
06:24
and I will dig your back.
06:26
Then what inquiry will be conducted?
06:28
Mr. Fahim, please tell me
06:30
that this is the age of social media.
06:32
Mainstream media also keeps an eye on these things.
06:34
Obviously, the commission
06:36
has been going on for a long time.
06:38
But to build such bad roads
06:40
so that they expose you.
06:42
We are sitting in the program
06:44
and talking about the condition of the roads.
06:46
Obviously, fingers are pointing at them.
06:48
Is there no fear of anyone?
06:50
Is there such a negative material?
06:52
Or is there any effect of our master plan
06:54
on the city?
06:56
No, no.
06:58
See,
07:00
I said earlier
07:02
in the book,
07:04
everything is present in it.
07:06
When you design a road,
07:08
you make a stormwater drain
07:10
with it.
07:12
Now you tell me,
07:14
if you go to DHA,
07:16
there are gratings in the middle of the road.
07:18
Have you seen anywhere in the world?
07:20
What I mean to say is
07:22
that this is a waste of air.
07:24
See, 2-3 years ago,
07:26
there was a tender of 97 crore rupees
07:28
for the University Road.
07:30
In the first rain,
07:32
it broke from 24 places.
07:34
I sent a video
07:36
to the minister,
07:38
Mr. Radhuli Shah.
07:40
And I said,
07:42
I will not take a single rupee from you.
07:44
You give me the responsibility
07:46
of the inquiry of this road.
07:48
See,
07:50
this money
07:52
does not belong to the government.
07:54
This money does not belong to the government.
07:56
This money is paid by me and you
07:58
with the help of tax.
08:00
And this money is his property.
08:02
If he does not spend it properly,
08:04
if he does not enforce the book,
08:06
then this is a criminal act
08:08
against him.
08:10
There is already a movement
08:12
in the civil society
08:14
that we should approach
08:16
the High Court and the Supreme Court.
08:18
And we should say
08:20
that the roads you make,
08:22
the lines of water you put,
08:24
the lines of sewage you put,
08:26
what your book says,
08:28
you do it with it,
08:30
and if you do not do it,
08:32
then what is it?
08:34
And if someone has not done it,
08:36
then why should there be no legal solution?
08:38
This is the question.
08:40
Basically, explain
08:42
that the stormwater drains
08:44
that we talk about,
08:46
does this system exist somewhere in Karachi?
08:48
Is it present?
08:50
The stormwater drains
08:52
absolutely existed.
08:56
You have destroyed them.
09:00
Apart from the stormwater drains,
09:02
the sewage lines, the lines of water,
09:04
in the world,
09:06
the sewage line is very low,
09:08
the water line is high.
09:10
On one side of the road,
09:12
the water line is 2.5 feet below,
09:14
on the other side,
09:16
the sewage line is 2.5 feet below.
09:18
The sewage is contaminated
09:20
with water.
09:22
And they keep saying that
09:24
our filter plants are not working.
09:26
This is not the problem of the filter plant.
09:28
So, brother,
09:30
I said,
09:32
this innocence.
09:34
You are absolutely right.
09:36
Thank you very much, Mr. Zaman.
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