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Suffering invokes freedom, Suffering brings Truth || Acharya Prashant, on Guru Kabir (2019)
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Video Information: Shabdyog satsang 16.1.19, Advait Bodhsthal, Greater Noida, India
Music Credits: Milind Date
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Pranam Acharya ji, in one of his love songs, Kabir Saheb says, do listen to your slaves
00:08
prayer and release me of my agony, says Kabir, I shall doubtless get my lord and sing the
00:17
auspicious song of love in chorus with him.
00:23
Now Muttasim's question is, on one hand, Kabir yearns for unison with God.
00:32
On the other hand, he also says he is doubtless.
00:36
How can these two co-exist?
00:39
How can Kabir Saheb be doubtless?
00:42
This doubtlessness is the hallmark of love, Muttasim.
00:50
What is love?
00:51
These two things together, knowing fully well that there is separation and knowing fully
01:02
well that separation is false and therefore separation has to go.
01:13
That is the state of the lover, that is the state of the singer, of the seeker.
01:26
How is there doubtlessness?
01:29
Because of suffering, because of the fact of suffering.
01:33
So the two facts that you talked of are not in opposition to each other.
01:39
In fact, they complement each other.
01:43
First thing you talked of was the acknowledgement of suffering, the yearning, the agony.
01:53
And the second thing you talked of was the utter assurance that union is inevitable.
02:05
It is because of the first that the second is there.
02:11
You will ask how?
02:14
When suffering is so very heavy, pronounced, then your honesty,
02:35
makes it very important, mandatory upon you to get rid of that suffering.
02:59
You see, if you have small irritants in life, probably you can live with them.
03:18
If you have a little bit of back pain and you go to the doctor, he will suggest you
03:26
certain medicines maybe, certain exercises maybe, and he'll tell you that after these
03:39
medicines and these exercises, the pain will subside.
03:44
A little bit of pain may still remain and he'll ask you to live with the pain.
03:52
He won't tell you to get a spinal cord surgery, to get rid of the remnant pain.
04:13
Things that trouble you just a little bit can be lived with.
04:23
We all live with a little bit of discomfort here and there, don't we?
04:30
There would be nobody, for example, who would not have some relationship issue, some physical
04:38
problem, even some psychological problem, but we don't jump into drastic measures to
04:56
get rid of temples, do we?
05:04
Small things, who wants to invest too much energy in them?
05:11
So the small can be allowed to co-exist with you.
05:26
If your car gets a little scratch on the door, do you immediately take it to the workshop
05:37
to get the dent removed, and the dent is so very minor, and to get the scratch removed
05:48
and the area painted?
05:49
You don't.
05:50
But if your car gets a nice enough accident, then you no longer continue to tolerate the
06:20
broken condition of the car, then you necessarily take it to the workshop.
06:36
Small problems can be allowed to remain because they are small.
06:50
Separation from God is not a small problem, it's a huge issue, and because it is a huge
06:58
issue, so it is definitely not going to continue forever.
07:09
A pimple on the skin can continue for long, some pimple here, some pimple there, can continue
07:22
for long, but skin cancer cannot continue for long, either you finish it or it finishes
07:30
you, and therefore there is no doubt that something will yield, that something will
07:42
go, that is from where Kabir Sahab gets his doubtlessness.
07:58
Separation from God is such a searing pain, it aches 24 hours, it doesn't allow you to
08:10
live, eat, breathe, sleep, move, walk, think, that the very intensity of the pain convinces
08:21
you that the pain cannot continue for long, it is so bad that it cannot remain so bad
08:32
for too long, the problem has come to its peak, its climax, obviously something's got
08:53
to go, obviously something is going to change.
09:01
And that is one great way through which the saints attain union.
09:15
For them the situation turns so bad that it has to now turn for the good.
09:34
They are the ones who experience the agony, they are the ones who weep, who cry, and therefore
09:45
they are the ones who rectify.
09:51
For the commoner, for the worldly householder, the situation never gets so bad, it's always
10:04
bad but always under control, isn't that the description of the condition of the common
10:17
man, ask him how is it, he will say bad, but not bad enough to collapse, and because things
10:31
are never bad enough for him to collapse, so his false structures stay put, there is
10:44
always a simmering discontent within, but never a rebellion, why is there never a rebellion?
11:02
Because even when things are very bad for him, still the badness is tempered, reduced
11:18
by the occasional pleasures that the common man so very values.
11:28
So one has had a terrible fight with the wife and it has become clear that the situation
11:41
is pathetic, it has become clear that the marriage is rotting, it is actually coming
11:51
to the point of explosion, it is a very important moment, the moment of the fight, entire day,
12:05
entire evening, the two of them fought and it is clear to both the man and the wife that
12:18
life is full of suffering, but then comes the night and the acknowledgement that life
12:38
is full of suffering just disappears, a little bit of sexual engagement is enough to make
12:56
both of them forget that the situation is terrible, next morning the two will wake up largely
13:10
forgetful of the hell that they experienced the entire day before, a little bit of pleasure
13:24
is enough to make man tolerate
13:36
huge indignities.
13:55
The saint is not sold out to pleasure, so when suffering hits him, suffering stays with
14:20
him, he does not quickly get out of it, the common man has coping mechanisms, the saint
14:36
has no coping mechanism, had a bad day, have some beer and then you cope up, had a bad
14:55
week, drenched the weekend in shopping, this option is not available to the saint, if he
15:05
has had a bad week, he has had a bad week and he will acknowledge that the week was
15:09
honestly bad, so things come pretty soon to the boiling point for the saint, his honesty
15:27
does not allow him to obfuscate the reality, he cannot lie to himself, he cannot sell himself
15:45
out to mundane pleasures and so he is convinced, so he is doubtless, his very suffering tells
16:12
him of freedom from suffering, he knows that suffering of this magnitude, suffering of
16:19
this intensity just cannot continue, his longing convinces him of union, he knows very well
16:34
that if the longing is so intense, then it is impossible that the union is too far away,
16:49
as they say it is the darkest just before dawn, the world is the world, life is life,
17:06
the difference between the saint and others is that the saint does not compromise very easily,
17:21
he has a knack for reality, he has a taste for honesty.
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