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How to abide in the Shiva Truth? || Acharya Prashant, on Ribhu Gita (2018)
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Video Information: Shabdyog Session, 14.02.2018, Advait BodhSthal, Noida, India
Music Credits: Milind Date
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00:00
Namaste Acharyaji, what is the screen, Satchitananda, Shiva Self, is the absolute a state?
00:13
How can a thinking mind know about Shiva?
00:20
How will the mind become still in order for the Shiva state to appear spontaneously?
00:29
Can we still the mind?
00:33
Who has to be still, we or the mind?
00:37
And how?
00:40
Satchitananda, truth, illumination or awareness and joy.
00:53
This is not the absolute, Satchitananda is not a characteristic of the truth itself,
01:11
though it is variously referred to as verily nothing else but the truth.
01:22
Satchitananda is the relaxation of the mind into the truth, Satchitananda, yes you could
01:36
say is the final state of the mind, whether you want to call it a state depends on you.
01:53
If you are speaking from a dissolved point, then you need not call Satchitananda a state.
02:04
But if you are speaking as a seeker, then you can call Satchitananda a state because
02:13
you are yourself still in a state, Satchitananda is the final state.
02:20
What is meant by the final state?
02:22
After this there are no states.
02:29
It is existence merging into non-existence.
02:39
It is like water merging into water, mixing with water.
02:49
It will be very difficult for you to tell apart the waters.
03:00
How do you judge a person's health?
03:12
One of the first things that you do is you measure the blood pressure, you measure the
03:22
temperature and then if you want advanced tests, then you take blood sample or urine
03:34
sample and get it tested in a pathology lab, right?
03:49
Tell me when are you testing health?
03:53
You are just testing temperature, blood pressure, sugar, blood.
04:03
When are you testing health?
04:08
Go into this.
04:11
Health is that which keeps the body regularly functional.
04:22
Health cannot be tested, only the body can be tested.
04:26
Similarly, the truth cannot be known, but whether or not you abide in the truth can
04:41
be known by looking at the condition of your mind.
04:51
Health cannot be known, but whether the body is abiding in health can be known by testing
05:01
the body, right?
05:04
Similarly, truth cannot be known, but whether the person, the ego, the little self is abiding
05:16
in the truth can be known by looking at the characteristics of the person, the mind.
05:27
Satchitanand is a sure-shot characteristic that the mind is abiding in the truth and
05:40
equally there are very certain signs that the mind is not abiding in the truth.
05:53
If you remain infected with fear and jealousy and comparison, if you keep feeling small
06:04
or big, if you keep feeling the need to defend, if you keep feeling lonely, if you feel insecure
06:19
in front of a new concept, then it is a sure-shot sign that the mind is not abiding in the truth.
06:41
If the waves of happiness and sadness just carry you away and you start talking of yourself
06:53
as nothing but the experiencer of pleasure and pain, then it is a sure-shot sign that
07:03
the body is not abiding in health.
07:12
You could even say it is a sure-shot sign that the Deh is not honestly abiding in the Prana.
07:26
Have you ever seen Prana?
07:30
It is not to be seen and I am not talking of Prana in the classical sense, I am not
07:36
talking of the various kind of vayus, I am talking of the spirit, the life force.
07:50
Have you ever seen something escaping a dead human body?
08:02
But for sure, the Prana and the body are no more united.
08:13
Some link has broken and that is what you call as physical death, don't you?
08:19
And it is very obvious that the link has broken.
08:21
It is so obvious that you cannot confuse a dead man with a living man.
08:29
You commonly use the expression that the Prana has gone out of the body.
08:33
I don't want to use that expression.
08:35
But I will still say that the link between Prana and the body has been severed, right?
08:44
And it is obvious then that the link has been broken.
08:47
Similarly, when you look at a mind that is dissociated from its origin, from the truth,
08:56
then it is very easy to tell.
09:01
Not as easy as telling a dead body apart from a living one, but still not very difficult.
09:14
Even the grossest fool will say this man is dead and he will be right.
09:21
But it requires some wisdom to point out that this person's mind is dissociated from the
09:35
truth or distanced from the truth.
09:40
It can be however told.
09:43
It is not beyond recognition.
09:46
Absolute is not a state, but all your states keep crying aloud for the absolute.
09:58
All the states want to turn into the absolute state,
10:03
which means that as long as you belong to a particular state,
10:08
you will look at the absolute as a state and that is all right.
10:12
No problem.
10:15
Call the absolute whatever you may, but move towards it.
10:19
Let it be your sharp and powerful inspiration.
10:29
You can even call the absolute as the best state if you want to.
10:33
And if that is useful, please do that.
10:38
But irrespective of what name you give it, move towards it.
10:45
Make it your only goal.
10:47
I am weighing my words.
10:49
I know what I'm talking of.
10:51
I'm saying make the absolute your only goal.
10:56
Why am I saying that?
10:57
Because you will not be able to live without goals.
10:59
Even if you agree at this moment that the absolute cannot be a goal,
11:06
you will find that you are helpless due to your own constitution.
11:14
You need goals.
11:16
Make the helpless, make the absolute your goal.
11:22
You have no option.
11:23
How can a thinking mind know about Shiva?
11:29
A thinking mind can know and that knowing is called Shiva.
11:36
You cannot know about Shiva, but you can know, right?
11:41
And whatever you know,
11:44
you can know about Shiva.
11:46
You cannot know about Shiva, but you can know, right?
11:50
And whatever you know is due to the blessings of Shiva.
11:56
The knowing itself is Shiva.
12:01
Shiva is anyway not a person,
12:08
not a deity, not a figure, not an object.
12:12
There is only Shiva, Shiva-ness.
12:17
And that Shiva-ness expresses itself in your knowing.
12:22
So, no, don't try to know about Shiva.
12:27
Shiva is not furniture.
12:29
Shiva is not a tree.
12:30
Shiva is not a cloud, not even the sky.
12:34
How will you know Shiva?
12:37
Do you know of anything that has no shape, no form and is eternal?
12:42
How will you know Shiva?
12:43
But no, do know.
12:44
What can you know?
12:46
This world and yourself, know that.
12:48
That knowing is Shiva-ness, Shivatva.
12:57
How will the mind become still in order for the Shiva state to appear spontaneously?
13:03
The mind becomes still when it sees that movement is foolish.
13:09
There is no other reason for mind to become still
13:14
and the mind is captive of reasons.
13:21
You will have to give the mind a strong reason to not to run.
13:29
The mind will never agree to be still.
13:32
It can only agree to not to run.
13:34
And this is not merely wordplay.
13:36
There is a great difference between being still and not running.
13:40
You can never take the consent of the mind for stillness.
13:47
It's like a traveler who is intent on moving and he is standing at crossroads.
13:56
He is a traveler.
13:57
That's his definition.
13:58
That's his self-identification.
14:02
You cannot tell him to not to travel.
14:05
That would be stupid.
14:06
Then how do you tackle this situation?
14:09
He's standing at the crossroads.
14:11
He wants to move north.
14:12
You tell him, no, no, no, north is not the way.
14:14
So he can't move.
14:15
Immediately he wants to move east.
14:19
You tell him, no, no, east is not the way.
14:21
He stops.
14:22
Then he wants to move south.
14:25
You tell him, no, no, south is not the way.
14:27
He wants to move west.
14:28
You tell him, no, no, west is not the way.
14:29
He is still constantly trying to move.
14:32
Constantly trying to move.
14:35
But you are constantly able to show him that all his movements are wrong, stupid.
14:42
They will not take him to the destination.
14:45
And that is the only way he can be still.
14:47
The mind has to know moment after moment what is stupid for it.
14:56
And if you can constantly keep the mind in this realization, only then it will be still.
15:01
The stillness of this man, this traveler is not the stillness of the monk
15:07
who is standing just at a little distance,
15:13
intent on going nowhere, and is just standing.
15:17
If you look from afar, then you will say that these two are just the same
15:22
in the sense that both are just standing.
15:24
But there is a great difference.
15:28
The monk intends to stand.
15:32
The mind intends to travel.
15:37
Your saving grace is that the mind intends to travel rightly.
15:43
The mind doesn't intend to just travel.
15:45
It wants to travel with a purpose.
15:48
It wants to travel to reach somewhere.
15:50
Use the intent of the mind to stall its travel.
15:56
Tell the mind, north is not right.
15:59
See, you just don't want to travel.
16:01
You want to travel rightly.
16:04
And north is not right.
16:07
So fine, can't go north.
16:09
Okay, you want to travel east or west?
16:13
See, you just don't want to travel blindly.
16:16
You want to travel rightly.
16:18
And west is not right.
16:21
So the mind is still trying to move but can't move.
16:24
That is the only kind of stillness that will come to you.
16:28
Not the monk's stillness.
16:32
It will take long for you to come to a point
16:37
where even the tendency to travel disappears or gets burnt out.
16:45
Till the time that tendency remains, only discretion can help.
16:51
Apply discretion.
16:59
Tell yourself, yes, of course, I'm going to smoke.
17:01
I'll smoke only a cigarette that doesn't harm.
17:07
Of course, I'm free to smoke.
17:08
And then smoke.
17:11
If you can find a cigarette that doesn't harm, do smoke.
17:15
That is the only way you can come to terms with the traveling mind,
17:20
with the desirous mind.
17:22
Give it what it wants.
17:24
But also tell it that you don't merely want.
17:27
You want rightly, don't you?
17:30
And that's something that the mind will have to, you know, unwillingly agree to.
17:45
Then you have asked, can we still the mind?
17:47
I have taken this up.
17:49
Who has to be still?
17:50
We or the mind?
17:51
Who has to be still?
17:52
The one who is moving.
17:52
If you are moving, you be still.
17:54
If the mind is moving, the mind will be still.
17:56
Why do you want to get into such verbiage?
17:59
We, the mind.
18:00
Are you any different from your mind?
18:04
If you are different from the mind, if you are a witness of the mind,
18:09
then all these questions will be absorbed in the witness.
18:14
You and the mind are one, totally one.
18:17
You are so completely identified with the mind
18:22
that there is just no differentiation possible right now.
18:29
You asked, who moves?
18:32
Or rather, who has to be still?
18:34
You said, who has to be still?
18:36
I said, the one who moves.
18:38
If you want to say that the mind moves, then the mind has to be still.
18:41
If you want to say that you move, then you have to be still.
18:45
It's merely wordplay, doesn't matter.
18:50
And then you say, how will the stillness come?
18:52
I have answered it.
18:53
Stillness won't come.
18:55
Only foolishness will have to be seen.
18:59
If you move, you get hurt.
19:01
So better don't move.
19:03
And there would be times when you would not know
19:05
that movement can be dangerous or harmful.
19:12
Then in those occasions, you will move and get hurt.
19:16
And that is all right.
19:19
Such experiences are good.
19:21
But don't repeat those experiences.
19:24
Getting hurt one time is acceptable.
19:28
Probably even good.
19:30
But don't get unnecessarily hurt the second time.
19:33
For the same reason.
19:34
In the same way.
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