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Venezia 81, Germano è Messina Denaro: “Opponiamoci con i giusti valori”
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9/6/2024
(Adnkronos) - L’attore protagonista del film ‘Iddu’ insieme a Toni Servillo
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00:00
Loredana Enrico from Necronos.
00:04
I'll start with you, Tony.
00:06
Yes, please.
00:07
Catello is a grotesque character.
00:09
How did you approach this role
00:12
and what did you try to highlight?
00:16
Well, I approached this role with the enthusiasm
00:20
that an actor always has
00:22
when he is asked to play a character who acts.
00:27
Catello wakes up in the morning
00:30
and decides to act on a stage.
00:34
As I have often said,
00:36
he is a bank robber,
00:38
besieged by despair,
00:40
to the point that he decides
00:42
to part with the secret services
00:45
to solve his problems,
00:47
as we see at the beginning of the film
00:49
when he has just come out of prison,
00:51
with the capture of Matteo Messina.
00:54
This puts him in contact with the secret services.
00:59
It is something that I hope
01:02
to pass on in a decisive way
01:08
to the character,
01:10
that when there are talks between him
01:13
and the person responsible
01:15
on the field of the secret services
01:17
for the capture of Titante,
01:19
the two recognize each other.
01:21
They know each other as people
01:23
who love to move,
01:25
to get in the way,
01:28
to the point that,
01:30
in a dialogue that is not in the film,
01:32
but that is entrusted to the gaze,
01:34
it is as if one says,
01:36
I like this one,
01:37
and the other responds,
01:38
if I could,
01:39
I would like to be in his place.
01:41
And this is what gives the film
01:45
and my character
01:47
this grotesque note,
01:48
but not in the caricature sense,
01:50
but in the sense of a thickening of the sign
01:52
with which the character deals,
01:55
which, through the ridicule,
01:57
multiplies the awareness
02:01
that there is immediately behind
02:04
a profoundly tragic dimension.
02:06
Because from this miserable universe
02:09
then depend, in many cases,
02:11
the conditions in which a region is found,
02:15
perhaps even an entire state,
02:17
at the expulsion of a criminal power
02:20
that, unfortunately,
02:21
is a hindrance
02:23
in the civil and social emancipation
02:25
of our country.
02:26
But sometimes it originates
02:28
in these environments that,
02:30
seen from afar,
02:31
we also find it difficult to recognize.
02:34
Seen so closely,
02:35
we ask ourselves, tragically,
02:37
but how is it possible?
02:38
How is it possible not to defeat,
02:41
not to oppose
02:43
centuries of culture
02:45
of our country,
02:46
of culture in a broad sense,
02:48
to this miserable human story
02:52
that guarantees,
02:54
favors the latitude
02:57
and the experience
02:59
of some illustrious criminals?
03:02
Well, unfortunately,
03:05
studying the history
03:07
of his criminal career,
03:11
it is a story that intersects a lot
03:13
with business.
03:15
In short,
03:16
Matteo Messina Di Naro
03:17
was one of the prominent figures
03:20
during the decision of the mafia,
03:23
of what we then call
03:24
the State-Mafia Treaty,
03:26
so bombs in Florence,
03:29
in Milan, in Rome,
03:31
attacks in Falcone and Borsellino,
03:33
therefore a frontal opposition
03:35
with the State,
03:36
but probably thanks to
03:38
support from some parts
03:42
of the services
03:43
and our institutional apparatus.
03:45
So it is a story that unfortunately
03:47
intersects with politics
03:49
and institutions.
03:50
In short,
03:51
just read what is written
03:53
in the trials
03:54
and what are the statements
03:55
of the victims.
03:57
In short,
03:58
there is a lot of literature on this.
04:01
What comes out of it,
04:03
I repeat,
04:04
is that they are always
04:05
individual trifles,
04:06
that is,
04:07
the search for one's own
04:09
individual and personal interest
04:11
that then determines
04:13
this mechanism.
04:14
Because what determines
04:16
the fact that a person,
04:17
an entrepreneur,
04:18
chooses a way
04:20
facilitated
04:21
compared to what the State
04:23
guarantees him,
04:24
is the motivation behind
04:26
a person who,
04:27
for a small reward,
04:28
for a job,
04:29
maybe for someone
04:30
in their family,
04:32
makes
04:34
jump in the air
04:35
the possibility of capturing
04:36
a hitman,
04:37
these are
04:38
small things
04:39
of human beings,
04:40
as Giovanni Falcone said,
04:43
that determine
04:44
this world.
04:45
And therefore,
04:46
they must be eradicated
04:48
in a
04:50
cultural proposal
04:51
of alternative things,
04:53
which are those
04:54
that are written
04:55
in our Constitution.
04:56
So it becomes political
04:58
in this sense.
04:59
That is,
05:00
if we put forward
05:01
the community,
05:02
the common good,
05:03
the shared possibilities,
05:04
the open road
05:05
for everyone,
05:06
that is the true
05:08
and above all
05:10
rights for people.
05:12
Because the mafia
05:13
arrives where
05:14
the State does not arrive.
05:16
So where people
05:17
are not protected,
05:18
they have no rights,
05:19
they rely on someone
05:20
powerful
05:22
to be protected.
05:23
Instead,
05:24
the greatest power
05:25
must be that of the community,
05:26
of the rules.
05:27
Otherwise,
05:28
in short,
05:29
I repeat,
05:30
the basis of this
05:31
differentiation
05:32
between bad and good
05:33
is this,
05:34
a political thing
05:35
that Western cinema
05:36
has done
05:37
mainly
05:38
in our
05:39
cinematographic culture
05:41
and therefore
05:42
a model that comes
05:44
from another culture
05:46
much more
05:47
simplifying
05:48
than ours.
05:50
In short,
05:51
the history of theater,
05:53
just think,
05:54
in short,
05:55
of the Greek
05:56
and then ours,
05:57
also Anglo-Saxon,
05:58
in short, etc.,
05:59
is made of other models,
06:00
of other complexities,
06:01
as life is made.
06:02
In the sense that
06:03
human beings
06:04
are capable
06:05
of everything.
06:07
This is enough
06:08
to read,
06:09
in short,
06:10
any news,
06:11
today,
06:12
chronicle,
06:13
not to think
06:14
about the wars
06:15
that are around,
06:16
which are justified
06:17
based on an ethic
06:19
that then allows
06:20
to determine
06:21
that those who are bad
06:22
must be exterminated.
06:23
So,
06:24
this ethic,
06:25
on this ethic,
06:26
it is necessary,
06:27
because even criminals
06:28
have a great ethic
06:29
that relies
06:30
on non-shareable values,
06:31
so it depends
06:32
on what values
06:33
and this I insist
06:34
on what are
06:35
the cultural models
06:36
of reference
06:37
and that institutions
06:38
should worry
06:39
about proposing
06:40
alternative models,
06:41
that if the model
06:42
is always profit
06:43
at all costs
06:44
and that's enough
06:45
and only that counts
06:46
cynically,
06:47
not the common good
06:48
of people,
06:49
these effects
06:50
are produced,
06:51
even maybe
06:52
in entrepreneurship,
06:53
even in hospitals,
06:54
even in school,
06:55
where only the strongest
06:56
wins
06:57
and the important thing
06:58
is the personal
06:59
return of each one,
07:00
this produces
07:01
a destruction
07:02
of the collective
07:03
and therefore
07:04
of our society
07:05
and therefore
07:06
we need to put
07:07
some measures,
07:08
but I repeat,
07:09
in people,
07:10
in the cultural growth
07:11
of human beings,
07:12
because then
07:13
it is the human beings
07:14
who make the choices,
07:15
we can't blame
07:16
politics,
07:17
the mafia,
07:18
it's us.
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