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A Shrewsbury Haberdashery shop is saying goodbye to a loyal employee who has clocked up 50 years service.
Shropshire Star
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30/08/2024
Pic at Watson and Thornton Haberdashery in Shrewsbury, where they are saying goodbye to an employee of 50 years. We find out all the good things that's kept him there for so long.
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00:00
So we're here at Watson and Thornton, Fabrics and Haberdashery, and erm, hello sir Brian, how are you?
00:06
Good morning, I'm very well actually, getting very excited.
00:09
Well yeah, your working days are nearly done aren't they sir?
00:13
Well, I don't know about working, I've got jobs at home.
00:16
Well yeah, so you're about to be leaving here, and sadly to the customers of Shrewsbury and beyond,
00:24
because you've clocked up 50 years with the company.
00:27
I'm a man and boy, I have, for the company.
00:29
So let's go back to erm, yay old days then.
00:32
How did you first get involved and what was that role?
00:36
Well, I was a Saturday boy on the market, at Ellesmere Port to begin with.
00:42
My boss, Colin Thornton, he lived next door to my mum and dad when he first got married.
00:46
And I said, do you need a Saturday boy? And he said, come along.
00:50
So we did, so every morning, 7 o'clock we used to be off to Ellesmere Port.
00:55
Yep, and you were living Congleton Way at that time?
00:58
I lived in Congleton in Cheshire, I did.
01:00
So markets were the start, and that was Ellesmere Port, and there was a couple of others you used to travel to?
01:06
Yes, we did. Wellington, we came down here on a Wednesday to Shrewsbury, Oswestry as well.
01:13
And we had actually a shop in Congleton in Cheshire.
01:15
Yeah, and then you eventually moved into this shop.
01:20
This shop, I mean it's expanded over the years hasn't it?
01:23
Very much so, very much so.
01:25
The part that we're in with the original part, and then all through the years we've expanded,
01:30
it got bigger, got bigger, and we can't get any bigger.
01:33
It is, it's like a TARDIS, it keeps going up when you come in doesn't it?
01:36
I get my step counting.
01:37
Yeah, I can believe it.
01:39
What was that little, we were just having a little chinwag off camera, just tell us that little anecdote.
01:43
This used to be a newsagents didn't it, back in the day?
01:46
Well this part, number 27, used to be Hollyoaks, the newsagents and fishing tackle shop.
01:51
Maybe older people might know it, remember it.
01:56
And it was the only shop, newsagents, open at the time when we used to come down to the market.
02:01
So we used to get our newspaper, wait for the market to open and that was it.
02:04
Who'd have thought, it's funny how things work isn't it?
02:06
If someone would have tapped you on the shoulder and said, well you'll be here, you know.
02:09
And we were.
02:10
Yeah, yeah.
02:11
So how old are you now then Brian, I'm getting personal.
02:14
I will be 66 in September.
02:16
So you literally started as a young lad then didn't you?
02:19
I was 13.
02:20
Yeah, wow.
02:21
So this shop's been here 46 years.
02:24
46 years we have.
02:25
How long have you been on the ground here then, serving customers here?
02:28
Actually, probably 35 of those maybe 46 years.
02:34
Might even be a little bit longer than that, might be coming up to 40.
02:37
Because I used to do the markets in Wellington.
02:39
Used to come over on a Wednesday to Shrewsbury Market, go back to Wellington on the Thursday.
02:45
On Friday off and back to Wellington on Saturday.
02:48
So you must, I mean, you must have built up quite relationships with customers really haven't you?
02:53
Oh, that's been one of the best things about the job actually.
02:56
Meeting so many people and over the years people have grown up
03:01
and they've come, they've left Shrewsbury, they've come back and they say,
03:05
Oh, are you still here?
03:07
You haven't changed have you?
03:09
Well I hope so, I've got less hair and more wrinkles.
03:13
But yeah, I guess these kind of shops, it's about that kind of proper service isn't it?
03:18
You don't just come in and beep something on the till and pick something off a shelf.
03:21
We've always prided ourselves on customer service actually over the years.
03:25
It does make a big difference, it does make a big difference and people appreciate it.
03:29
You can go into supermarkets and you'll see nobody really,
03:32
or nobody to interact with apart from the people on the till.
03:36
Here we give advice.
03:38
Do you think that's what's kept you here, that personable side of the job?
03:42
It has, it has, it's been one of the plus points.
03:45
I actually always wanted to be a teacher but I ended up marrying one.
03:48
Oh did you?
03:49
I did.
03:50
Well you've got a ruler in your hands.
03:53
I remember having a few rulers in my time before.
03:58
Before it was banned.
03:59
So you leave Shrewsbury now, you moved a number of years ago to the town itself.
04:04
I moved in 1984, moved to Castlefields from Congleton.
04:08
I was travelling more or less four or five days a week.
04:12
Sometimes I used to actually stay over here with Mr Thornton
04:16
because he's got a flat above the shop.
04:18
And then I decided it was time to leave home.
04:22
I think my mum was fed up with me.
04:25
And it's still the Thornton family isn't it?
04:27
It's still the Thornton family.
04:29
Even though they kept the name of Watson and Thornton,
04:33
it was easy to keep all the stationery and everything.
04:37
And everybody knows us either as Watson and Thornton or the boys.
04:41
And you were saying people thought the shop was closing when you said you were going, didn't you?
04:45
They did, they were very worried.
04:47
But don't worry, the shop's still going to be here.
04:51
Expanding all the time.
04:53
Mr and Mrs Thornton's daughter, Pascale, has now taken over the business
04:56
and she's got things up and running and tickety-boo.
05:01
And what's kind of your role then?
05:03
So you come in, you assist, just fill us in on what you do in the haberdashery.
05:08
Well over the years I've been Jack of all trades, but master of none.
05:13
I don't like using that term.
05:16
I do virtually anything.
05:18
I do the tills, I help clean the shop, help keep it tidy, keep it restocked,
05:23
do the stock taking.
05:25
Yep, I can do most of the things.
05:27
And serve the customers.
05:30
So are we getting customers, is it Shrewsbury people
05:33
or do people kind of travel in from outside of the town to come here?
05:37
We have a very big catchment area.
05:40
A lot of people from the West Midlands, Wolverhampton Way, Mid Wales,
05:46
even sort of Chester now because they've lost their fabric shop.
05:49
Yeah, well there was a...
05:51
Reputation precedes us.
05:52
Yeah, well Express and Star covered a wool shop closing in Wolverhampton
05:55
and I guess as those kind of places close this becomes even more important
05:59
doesn't it to serve the community?
06:01
It does, it does actually.
06:03
I mean at one time there were at least seven senior schools doing GCSE and A level
06:08
dressmaking, sewing, but now I think it's down to maybe two, two and a half.
06:13
Yeah.
06:14
And that's a shame really because where's the younger talent coming from?
06:17
Yeah.
06:18
And also apparently a lot less colleges and so on doing upholstery courses
06:23
these days, some I've been told.
06:25
Yeah, there's a few.
06:26
I mean the sewing bee on TV always gives us a shot in the arm
06:29
and I think hopefully inspires the younger generation
06:33
and maybe people who have lapsed and would say,
06:36
Oh, I can do that.
06:38
Yes you can.
06:39
So does it tend to be mostly people coming in who are doing stuff to do with clothing
06:44
or is it furniture, is it 50-50?
06:46
Well over the years it's developed, as a shop we've developed and expanded.
06:52
We used to be predominantly dress fabrics, but now we do furnishing fabrics,
06:56
craft and lots of haberdashery.
06:59
So patch workers, we have lots of patch workers.
07:01
Yeah.
07:02
And we offer classes as well, so if people want to learn.
07:04
Oh wow.
07:05
Yeah, my boss's daughter, she does the teaching.
07:09
Does that happen on site here?
07:10
It does.
07:11
Oh wow.
07:12
We've got a classroom upstairs.
07:13
Oh fantastic.
07:14
And lots of other things.
07:15
Yeah, yeah.
07:16
It's a big shop.
07:17
Yeah, yeah.
07:18
So what are your skills like back at home?
07:19
If we went to your house, are we going to find tatty cushions,
07:21
do you have your fill of it at work?
07:23
My wife's the sewer, because that's how we met.
07:25
She was at Sixth Form doing O-Levels and A-Level while I was on the market,
07:29
so she's the sewer.
07:30
But me, they call me Break It Bri.
07:33
If it can be broken, I can break it.
07:36
But I'll give it a go.
07:39
Any particular notable customers that come to mind over the years?
07:43
I'm putting you on the spot here really.
07:44
Oh, Barry's putting me on the spot because there's been that many of them
07:47
because of my time here.
07:48
Yeah.
07:49
Many, many, many customers.
07:51
Yeah.
07:52
And I guess that's probably made,
07:53
did that make the decision all the more difficult to say,
07:56
right, now is the time I'm going?
07:58
Oh, very much so, very much so.
08:00
It's going to be the interaction that I am going to miss.
08:02
But I go to the gym five times a week,
08:04
so I've got guys there I can sort of chat to.
08:07
Yeah, yeah.
08:08
Just keep myself fit and chatty.
08:10
So do you think you'll still be popping in for a cup of tea in a chin rag now and again?
08:13
Well, I'm not a big tea drinker or coffee drinker actually,
08:16
but yes.
08:17
Yeah.
08:18
I mean, like I said, I've been part of the family for such a long time.
08:21
They've grown up with me and I've grown up with them.
08:24
You know what, when you think about it actually,
08:26
I guess you've probably spent more time in your working life with your colleagues
08:32
than I have with my relatives, you know.
08:34
So you do become part of that family, don't you really?
08:36
Yeah, you do, you do.
08:37
And it is lovely actually, it really is.
08:39
You feel part and parcel of the company.
08:43
Yeah.
08:44
And I was going to ask what you're going to be doing with your spare time,
08:47
but obviously the gym's a big thing.
08:48
Well it is, but I'm going to maybe, because I'm usually in at half past six in the morning,
08:52
so maybe won't have to get up so early.
08:54
Yeah.
08:55
I can sort of do my own thing when I want to.
08:57
I've got a wedding in Australia next year
09:00
and a local wedding, a concert to go to.
09:03
I'm going to give myself time to settle in.
09:06
I'm a creature of habit.
09:08
Creature of habit.
09:09
So half six, that's an early start isn't it?
09:11
Well yes, I have to be up at five past six to get there for half past six.
09:15
Yeah, yeah.
09:16
Luckily the gym I go to, the Shrewsbury Club,
09:18
is only about five, ten minutes away from home.
09:20
So I can more or less change, fall out of bed, get in,
09:23
and get in and do the class.
09:25
Well, we'll give you the last word Brian.
09:27
Is there anything you want to say to the customers
09:29
that you've worked alongside with over the years?
09:32
I'd like to thank them for coming in, putting up with me.
09:35
Sometimes my rival humour can be a little bit.
09:39
I hope to see them around, but you never know.
09:43
So here we have Pascal Thornton
09:45
and a lot of customers think you're husband and wife.
09:50
We can set the record straight, that's not the case.
09:53
That's not the case.
09:54
So Pascal, it's your family business.
09:56
Will you be sad to see Brian go?
09:58
Yeah, of course we are.
09:59
He's an absolute gem.
10:01
He's done us proud over the years
10:03
and we wish him all the best.
10:05
Yeah, I mean I've got a sense just the few minutes I've spent with him
10:07
the kind of warmth.
10:08
So I can imagine when you've got a customer face in business
10:11
that's what you want, isn't it?
10:12
Yeah, absolutely.
10:13
He's brilliant.
10:15
The customers come in for miles and miles and miles
10:17
and they're all amazed that he's still here.
10:20
Yeah, we are finally managing to get rid of him, aren't we Brian?
10:24
Yeah, we've been trying for a while.
10:26
What we were saying, I bet you've spent more time with Brian,
10:29
although you're not husband and wife,
10:31
I bet you've spent more time with Brian
10:32
than a lot of your members of your family, haven't you?
10:34
Well, he's literally been around my whole lifetime.
10:37
So yeah, he's been a dad as well as a husband.
10:41
But you'll be sad to see him go then?
10:42
Of course we will, yeah.
10:43
That's nice, isn't it?
10:44
End of an era for him, but all the best in the future.
10:48
Never say never.
10:49
Yeah, he's welcome back at any time.
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