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00:00
You're not gonna be ready for week one.
00:02
We gotta get ready for the Jets and we don't even know who's gonna be in the lineup.
00:05
The Giants lineup, look, they're two games over .500.
00:08
Ramos is starting to come back around.
00:10
He had a good day at the plate.
00:13
Look, the White Sox are 30-97.
00:17
They had three hits yesterday.
00:18
They're the equivalent of the 0-16 Detroit Lions.
00:22
Oh, they might be worse than them.
00:25
They might be worse than them.
00:26
Didn't Cleveland go a season without winning the Game 2?
00:27
They went two seasons with one win.
00:30
I believe Hugh Jackson was 1-31.
00:32
1-32 or something like that.
00:34
1-31.
00:35
Heading into his third year.
00:36
He was awful.
00:37
Right?
00:38
He was awful.
00:39
I could be wrong, but I think that's correct.
00:40
I think the Browns went through a season without winning the game.
00:41
So is this White Sox team, because we're gonna talk to somebody from Chicago a little bit
00:46
later.
00:47
By the way, Jen Lee-Chan at 830.
00:48
But Matt Spiegel, Matt Spiegel, 670 to score at Chicago.
00:54
And they're the flagship station of the Chicago White Sox.
00:58
And I'm not sure how much White Sox baseball they're talking about.
01:00
Or you can lean into it and just be like, this team is so terrible.
01:04
You could do like a tracker.
01:05
I started doing that a couple weeks ago on this show.
01:09
30-97.
01:10
There are 67 games under 500.
01:13
They were eliminated on like August 10th.
01:16
Are we watching the worst professional team of our lifetime?
01:22
The Charlotte Bobcats when they first came out were pretty bad.
01:26
This is bad, bad.
01:28
This is bad, bad.
01:29
Like, you're not an expansion team.
01:31
You've been around for over 100 years, 100 years, and you're 30-97 in today's day and
01:40
age in baseball.
01:42
What about the 17-win Warriors?
01:44
They're not as bad as this.
01:47
This is bad, bad.
01:48
Bobby Serra.
01:49
I'm looking at this team, and look, Andrew Vodge struck it out three times.
01:55
I guess we can give credit to Robby Ray for going six innings and striking out nine, but
01:59
it's tough for me to pump my chest up and say, boy, Giants have won three in a row.
02:04
You know what the saddest part of last night watching sports was?
02:07
Not the Giants game.
02:08
It was me flipping around channels, and the Padre game popped up on my feed, and I watched
02:14
Jerks and Profar, who anyone in baseball could have had for pennies, hit a ball down the
02:20
line for a home run on a Tuesday night at San Diego.
02:24
And I watched the crowd, and I listened to the crowd, and I said to myself, dear God,
02:29
I remember when AT&T, aka Oracle, aka Pac-Bell Park felt like that on a Tuesday night.
02:34
And everybody, all these giant fan snobs online, all right, you know exactly who you are.
02:40
The same ones that cape up for, you know, platooning Austin Slater when he's actually
02:45
not good anymore against lefties, even though Baltimore did that yesterday, batting him
02:48
lead off.
02:52
The fans have rejected the Giants' brand of baseball.
02:55
And I look over at the Padres, and you can say, Joe, they haven't won anything.
02:58
They haven't won anything.
02:59
No, I'm not going to say that.
03:00
You're right.
03:01
They haven't won anything.
03:02
But what they have done is captivated that market.
03:05
And I'm watching how fans are on a Tuesday night as school is back.
03:09
You see all the pictures online of all the friends and people you follow.
03:12
All the kids are back in school.
03:13
And on a Tuesday night in San Diego, the 72-win Padre team, ready to try to go after
03:19
the Dodgers with one month to go.
03:21
This team has that area, that region, in a fervor for Padre baseball.
03:27
And I say to myself, look, they might not win a World Series, but what they've done
03:31
in terms of building a team and drawing excitement, that's how you connect with the consumer.
03:37
Jerks for Profar once was a five-tool prospect.
03:40
He was like, you know, you think of Jackson Holliday, you think of some of these prospects
03:45
who come up.
03:46
Jackson Toretto with Milwaukee.
03:48
That's who Jerks for Profar was coming up through the Texas Rangers system.
03:52
And he just couldn't stay healthy, didn't have a position, and it just didn't work out
03:57
for him.
03:58
So he makes the all-star game this season, and it's really one of the great stories in
04:02
baseball.
04:03
And you get this from time to time.
04:04
For a guy who was forgotten about for the first five, six, seven years of his career,
04:08
and then he resurfaces, and he finds himself in that dugout with those players, and he's
04:14
contributing to a winning atmosphere, a winning team, a team that's destined to make the playoffs
04:19
again.
04:20
Cool story for Jerks for Profar.
04:22
Very cool story.
04:23
He was on the A's, he's been on the Padres.
04:25
He was, I believe, sitting out there in free agency, and anyone could have had him.
04:29
And it's...
04:30
I think he was with the Padres last year, right?
04:32
Yes, he was.
04:33
If I'm not mistaken.
04:34
He's played second base.
04:35
He's played right field.
04:36
He's played left field.
04:37
He's been all over the place, depending on availability.
04:40
How they've pieced their team together with...
04:41
They signed Bogarts to be a shortstop, moved him to second.
04:44
They've done a lot of odd things.
04:46
But the Profar thing, I mean...
04:48
But again, when he's not the centerpiece of a lineup, look at how he can impact things.
04:53
Yeah, no doubt.
04:54
He's legit.
04:55
Did you see the crowd?
04:56
Oh, I see it every day.
04:57
And then I looked at the crowd that the Giants had, and I said to myself, I longed for the
05:01
days where, Tuesday nights, there was energy in the building.
05:04
Well, you know, Love and I were going at it last week about the Padres, because, well,
05:08
they haven't won yet, blah, blah, blah.
05:09
And I was like, dude, they got it going on at Petco Park, the Gaslund District.
05:13
And the great thing about that yard, and I underrated it, because I thought it was overrated
05:18
at first.
05:19
It's pretty cool.
05:20
But the great thing about it is, Ed and I sat at a hotel a few years ago down in San
05:23
Diego, downtown San Diego, and we just rented a scooter.
05:27
You could ride the scooter down to Petco Park.
05:31
And then you walk there to the outfield, there's the Hall of Fame, there's the Tony
05:34
Gwynn statue, there's kids running around.
05:36
It's just a really good atmosphere.
05:38
And Ed, when you leave the yard, you just pick up a scooter and scoot back up four or
05:43
five blocks up the street to the hotel.
05:45
75 degrees at, you know, nine o'clock at night is a pretty beautiful setting for baseball.
05:50
It is a beautiful setting.
05:51
So where do the White Sox fall?
05:54
Are they going to be the worst team in baseball?
05:56
Now the 1916 Philadelphia A's were 36 and 117.
06:00
Would they play 154 that year?
06:02
Yeah.
06:03
117 plus 30 is 147 plus six.
06:07
That's 153.
06:08
Yeah.
06:09
Because I believe the 62 Mets was the team with 43 wins in the modern era.
06:15
The 62 Mets were 40 and 120.
06:18
40 and 120.
06:20
The Washington Senators, 1904, 38 and 113.
06:24
The Boston Braves in 1935, 38 and 115.
06:28
So when you think about wins.
06:29
I remember that team.
06:30
1952, the Pirates, 42 and 112.
06:33
Wow.
06:34
42 and 112.
06:35
Wow.
06:36
The 2003 Tigers.
06:37
I'm a Pirate fan.
06:38
You gotta have more hope than that.
06:39
03 Tigers.
06:40
Give them to me.
06:41
43 and 119.
06:42
The 03 Tigers?
06:43
43 and 119.
06:44
Did they get Verlander out of that though?
06:45
They may have got some players.
06:46
They might have.
06:47
They might have.
06:48
So that roster.
06:49
Give it to me.
06:50
Look at that roster.
06:51
Hold on.
06:52
Let me pull it up.
06:53
Was it Ray Ordonez?
06:54
That had to be too early.
06:55
It's gotta be too early.
06:56
Maglio Ordonez, you mean?
06:57
Maglio, excuse me.
06:58
Well, there's two Ordonez.
06:59
One was a shortstop.
07:00
One was a right fielder.
07:01
One was shortstop for the New York Mets.
07:02
Yeah.
07:03
I meant the right fielder.
07:04
DH.
07:05
What is this roster?
07:06
Okay.
07:07
Give it to me.
07:08
Hold on.
07:09
Hold on.
07:10
Hold on.
07:11
Alan Trammell had to be gone.
07:12
Because this is weak-y here.
07:13
Oh, by the way.
07:14
0-4-G.
07:15
0-4-G.
07:16
0-4-G.
07:17
0-4-G.
07:18
0-4-G.
07:19
This is weak-y here.
07:20
Oh, by the way.
07:21
0-4-D.
07:22
Justin Verlander, number two overall pick.
07:23
Number two.
07:24
So they had a...
07:25
Who had the number one overall pick?
07:26
Padres.
07:27
Who was it, Sammy?
07:28
Matt Bush.
07:29
How could I forget?
07:30
Matt Bush was the number one overall pick.
07:32
Wow.
07:33
Hold on.
07:34
I gotta go to Tigers baseball and breakfast for this one.
07:35
But that's the last time, like, this White Sox team.
07:38
Are they gonna win seven games again?
07:40
Do they have seven wins on their schedule?
07:43
They're heavy underdogs this morning.
07:45
Heavy underdogs.
07:46
I love how in on this you are.
07:47
Huh?
07:48
I love how in on this you are.
07:49
Well, this is the story.
07:50
This is history.
07:51
I'm telling you, when the Lions went 0-16...
07:53
It was history.
07:54
Like, it was the last week of the regular season.
07:56
It was.
07:57
And it had all these games with playoff implications.
07:58
And I had red zone.
08:00
And I was stuck on Lions and Packers saying,
08:03
they're really gonna go through a season.
08:04
And they were close to that game.
08:06
You have no idea.
08:07
They was driving, and they were, like, into it.
08:09
And it may have been Dan Horlowski who threw a pick six.
08:13
And the last three minutes of the camera,
08:16
panning on the Lions sideline,
08:18
as they're on the bench with parkers on,
08:21
and looking down at their heads saying,
08:23
damn, we're gonna go through a season without winning a game.
08:28
A single game.
08:30
This has got to be the equivalent if you're a White Sox fan.
08:33
You got 30 wins, dog.
08:35
Well, I think it's worse than football.
08:36
Because, like, in football, there's a lot of guys on the practice squad or whatever
08:40
that are getting elevated.
08:42
Like, they're fighting for their NFL life.
08:44
So you know that there's, like, a level of care.
08:47
You know?
08:48
Not that these guys don't care for the White Sox.
08:50
It's a long season.
08:52
It's a long season.
08:54
And I can understand being in the outfield.
08:56
And you got, what do they have, 30 wins, you said, right now?
08:58
30 wins.
08:59
And you're out in center field, and you're down 4-1.
09:01
And you're just sitting there going, like, for who, for what?
09:04
The old Ricky Waters.
09:05
I mean, for who, for what?
09:07
For who, for what?
09:08
So Brandon Inge was on that Tigers team.
09:10
He was 26 years old.
09:11
Brandon Inge!
09:12
Carlos Peña, first baseman.
09:14
No way!
09:15
18 home runs, 50 RBIs.
09:17
Warren Morris.
09:18
Ramon Santiago.
09:20
Shortstop, remember him?
09:22
Eric Budson.
09:23
Craig Monroe.
09:24
He actually hit 23 home runs.
09:25
Craig Monroe wasn't bad.
09:26
23 home runs, 70 RBIs that year.
09:28
I think he was a Brewer after that.
09:29
How about our boy, Demetri Young?
09:31
Demetri Young was sweet.
09:32
He had great goatee-dye facial hair.
09:35
And he got into some stuff in the minor leagues.
09:38
He was a hothead.
09:39
Him and his brother.
09:40
He was a MVP baseball draft guy in the video game.
09:44
I would draft late.
09:45
Demetri Young, number 21, I believe.
09:47
29 homers, 85 RBIs that year for the Detroit Tigers.
09:52
That's like a Pedro Feliz year.
09:54
Dude, he had a great year.
09:55
Shane Halter, Kevin Witt, Omar Infante.
09:58
Omar Infante was solid.
10:00
Andres Torres is a 25-year-old, played 59 games for that Tigers team.
10:04
No way!
10:05
Yes, this is great.
10:06
He told me he was going to hit a home run.
10:07
I guess you guys don't know what I'm talking about.
10:09
A.J. Hinch.
10:10
A.J. Hinch.
10:11
Really?
10:12
A.J. Hinch.
10:13
Cody Ross was on that team.
10:15
No way!
10:16
He played six games for the Tigers as a 22-year-old.
10:19
A.J. Hinch was 27.
10:21
Ernie Young, D.H., played five games.
10:24
Now they're pitching staff.
10:27
Jerry Bonderman was on his team.
10:28
Oh, Bonderman.
10:29
He was 6-19 that season.
10:32
Adam Bernaro, 1-12, 26 years old.
10:36
Gary Knotts, 3-8.
10:37
Mike Maroth, 9-21.
10:40
Nate Cornejo, 6-17.
10:43
Yeah, they won 43 games.
10:46
So, the 0-16 Lions, Orvlosky comes to mind.
10:51
Who else was on that team?
10:53
Was Megatron on that team?
10:55
Megatron couldn't have been on that team.
10:57
He couldn't have been on that team.
10:58
I think they took Stafford the very next year, number one overall.
11:01
Megatron couldn't have been on that team.
11:02
Was Kitna on that team, or was he still on that team?
11:04
Megatron couldn't have been on that team.
11:06
He may have been on that team.
11:07
Dante Culpepper was.
11:08
Oh, Culpepper!
11:09
Drew Henson and Drew Stanton, too.
11:11
Wow, Drew Henson.
11:13
Michigan Wolverine.
11:14
Drew Henson was one of those high school...
11:16
Yes.
11:17
They did have Calvin Johnson, by the way.
11:19
They did have Megatron.
11:20
Drew Henson, Spadotti, was a guy who was a 3-4 star at high school,
11:24
and we would get all these high school magazines.
11:26
It was supposed to be like the can't-miss prospect.
11:28
Like, this is the guy.
11:30
Like, think LeBron James and the Chosen One.
11:32
Drew Henson may have not been on that level,
11:35
but maybe a tier or two below that in terms of hype.
11:39
When he was at Michigan, it was like,
11:40
oh, my God, Drew Henson.
11:41
Drew Henson couldn't play in front of Brady.
11:43
You know what I'm saying?
11:45
Then he ended up being a Cowboy.
11:46
He was like, eh.
11:47
I remember him on the Cowboys.
11:49
Cliff Averill also on that Lions team.
11:51
Cliff Averill.
11:52
Cliff Averill, wow.
11:53
Dan Campbell also on that Lions team.
11:54
No way!
11:55
He was.
11:56
Back up tight end.
11:57
Back up tight end.
11:58
Is that the worst team in most people's minds ever?
11:59
I think so.
12:01
Not the Bucs of the 80s?
12:02
Are we too old for that?
12:03
If I say the Tampa Bay Bucs of the 80s,
12:05
you guys in the back, you guys are younger.
12:07
You have a good 10 years younger than us.
12:09
Do you guys even acknowledge that?
12:11
No, I think the 0-16 Browns were worse with Hugh Jackson.
12:14
They had a parade in Cleveland because of how awful they were.
12:17
You guys remember that?
12:18
They had a parade?
12:19
Yeah.
12:20
At 30 season?
12:21
Yeah, but no.
12:22
I think we sleep on that, Joe.
12:23
It is Cleveland, but his stretch is like 1-32 or something,
12:27
isn't it?
12:28
I don't know.
12:29
I mean, the Lions were 2-30 in the two-year stretch.
12:32
They were 2-30.
12:33
They won two football games in two years.
12:35
I contend that for us here,
12:37
the Niners being as bad as they were with Tom Sula and Chip Kelly,
12:41
though not the equivalent of 0-16 or 1-32,
12:45
it's about as down bad as I can remember the 49er fan base at any point ever
12:51
because of what that team represents to this region
12:55
and because of the symbolism of moving out of the city,
12:58
getting rid of hardball, just the whole changing of everything,
13:01
Jed and his just Q rating amongst everyone at that given time.
13:06
The Niners were down bad.
13:08
Bad.
13:09
Bad, bad.
13:10
So look at this Lions-Packers game.
13:12
Just look at the box score.
13:14
It was 14-14 going into the fourth quarter.
13:17
14-14 going into the fourth quarter.
13:20
Packers kick a field goal.
13:22
They kick a field goal.
13:24
They go up 17-14.
13:26
And then all hell broke loose.
13:28
Oh, actually, it was 24-21.
13:30
24-21 with about seven minutes and 16 seconds left in that football game.
13:35
Lions are down three.
13:36
Seven minutes left.
13:37
And then Aaron Rodgers throws a 71-yard pass to Donald Driver,
13:41
and they go up 31-21.
13:43
And Orlowski and company lose.
13:45
He throws a 225.
13:46
Kevin Smith ran for 92.
13:48
I mean, that to me, see, I didn't watch a lot of those.
13:52
I watched that last game, so I remember them being that bad.
13:54
The Browns were huge.
13:55
The Jacks were pretty bad.
13:56
Horrible.
13:57
Pretty bad.
13:58
That's easily the worst baseball team we've ever seen with the White Sox.
14:02
That's 30-97, folks.
14:04
I mean, come on.
14:05
What's crazy is we've said this about the A's,
14:07
and then you look up middle of the year and the A's got three or four guys.
14:10
It's like, man, you know what?
14:12
I mean, this next wave of guys.
14:14
I mean, they're three years away from arbitration,
14:16
but they look pretty good.
14:18
Like, I'll give the A's that.
14:19
I watched this White Sox team, and I know you like Luis Robert.
14:22
He's okay.
14:24
That's about it.
14:25
Andrew Vaughn, the only reason we know Lee is because of Saroza.
14:28
Crochet called it today.
14:29
Garrett Crochet.
14:30
Yeah, Crochet.
14:31
Crochet.
14:32
Crochet's not bad.
14:33
Crochet's not bad.
14:34
Can you name anyone on the 2000-2001 Warriors that went 17-65?
14:39
Can I name anyone?
14:40
Bobby Serra had to be on one of those teams.
14:42
Yep.
14:44
Donald Foyle.
14:45
Donald Foyle was definitely on one of those teams.
14:46
Absolutely.
14:47
Was Eric Dampierre on that team?
14:48
Absolutely.
14:49
Who else was there?
14:51
17 wins.
14:53
Bobby Serra was there.
14:54
Pete Rich wasn't there yet, right?
14:55
He came in next year.
14:56
And next year, Jamison was.
14:57
Edton Jamison was there.
14:59
Oh, my God.
15:00
I just assumed you were going to go.
15:01
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
15:02
Edton Jamison was there.
15:03
Was that one of the Speedy Claxton years?
15:04
No, it was Mookie Blaylock here.
15:06
Mookie Blaylock was on that team.
15:07
One of my favorite video game players of all time,
15:09
Chris Porter from Auburn, baby, with the Afro.
15:12
Chris Porter, Auburn, with the dunks.
15:13
He would dunk all the time.
15:14
Yeah, look at you.
15:15
He would dunk all the time.
15:16
Yep, Chris Porter was good.
15:17
Vinny Del Negro, Bill Curley, Chuckie Brown, Corey Blunt.
15:20
What a team.
15:21
What a team.
15:23
I always liked Vinny Del Negro as a coach.
15:24
He always did well with the Bulls, with the Clippers.
15:26
I kind of like Vinny Del Negro as a player.
15:28
I loved Vinny Del Negro as a player.
15:29
He was a winner with the Spurs.
15:31
And don't forget, Larry Hughes, baby, St. Louis.
15:34
Well, Steini always talks about the walk-up crowd
15:36
when they traded for Larry Hughes.
15:37
I was there.
15:38
Larry's kids.
15:39
Yeah, it was one of the biggest walk-up crowds
15:41
in Warriors history.
15:43
So, yeah, there's some pretty bad teams.
15:45
8-8-9-5-7-9-5-7-0.
15:47
What is the worst team you've ever witnessed?
15:49
Worst team you've ever watched in your lifetime?
15:51
Worst team you've ever watched in your lifetime?
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