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IR Interview: Charlotte Kirk For "Duchess" [Saban] - Part II
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8/19/2024
Actress/Producer/Writer Charlotte Kirk talks to The Inside Reel about preparation, training and mindset with her new movie, the action thriller “Duchess” from Saban Films.
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00:14
Nicely done, Duchess.
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Duchess?
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She handled that with grace.
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Real power
00:25
can never be given.
00:27
It has to be taken.
00:28
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00:31
You've got some balls on you, Princess.
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It's Duchess.
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Because you see the empathy.
00:41
That's the interesting thing about it.
00:43
You empathize with her because you see
00:45
that she's reacting as normally people would.
00:48
But her head needs to be somewhere
00:49
specifically when you're playing her
00:51
because she has to be able to go back and forth.
00:53
Can you talk about what you needed to get into
00:56
as far as the psychology of her?
00:59
Because it's a physical thing.
01:00
It's a mental thing.
01:02
It's an emotional thing, too.
01:04
Yeah, I mean, it was tough mentally and physically.
01:09
I mean, for example, physically,
01:10
I had to learn to box.
01:11
I've never boxed before in my life.
01:12
So that was quite challenging and a lot of fun.
01:15
Yeah, your hook is pretty damn good, though.
01:17
I mean, Charlotte.
01:19
You know what?
01:20
It was a lot of fun.
01:21
I mean, one of the toughest days on set
01:22
was when Rob McNaughton comes to visit Scarlet
01:25
in the boxing ring and then I have to remember
01:27
to right hook, left hook,
01:29
and remember all these chunks of dialogue
01:31
at the same time.
01:32
That was very tough.
01:33
It was like trying to rub my head
01:34
and pat my belly at the same time.
01:35
It was like, really?
01:36
That was a difficult one.
01:38
But, you know, overall, it was challenging emotionally.
01:45
I have done a lot.
01:48
I've done, I would say, emotionally.
01:50
The reckoning was very challenging for me
01:52
because everything was like that.
01:54
But Dutchess was challenging in itself
01:57
because I had to go from, as you said,
01:59
humour, dark humour, to crying over my love's dead body,
02:03
to revenge.
02:05
It's a whole, her arc is pretty phenomenal,
02:07
going from all...
02:08
But there's a difference between fear and rage.
02:11
You know, that's the thing, looking at that.
02:13
Sorry, I didn't really mean to interrupt you.
02:15
No, absolutely.
02:16
And not overdoing it.
02:18
But a big inspiration for this film was Scarface.
02:22
And, you know, one of my favourite films.
02:24
And Tony Montana.
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And the big thing for me and Neil was,
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I said, Neil, I want to play this character all out.
02:31
I don't want to, you know, that there's no...
02:34
A lot of these movies you see today are very vanilla.
02:37
They're out there, but they're not outrageous and as crazy.
02:42
They're not visceral.
02:43
They're not visceral.
02:44
Yes, exactly.
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And I think we're making a gangster movie here.
02:46
This is the perfect opportunity to go all out.
02:49
So it was also that balance of, you know,
02:52
I don't want to play her over the top or overdo it.
02:55
So there was that fine line in the performance,
02:57
making sure that I'm not overplaying her.
03:00
But that's where I leave, you know,
03:02
I trust the director and trust Neil and say,
03:04
look, reel me in if I have to,
03:06
but I'm going to go all out on this one.
03:08
I have to.
03:10
What, what?
03:18
I'm sorry. They're my best friends.
03:27
Move!
03:33
Move, move!
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Move, move!
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Move, Rob!
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On me!
03:39
Move, babe!
03:41
Stay behind me, stay behind me!
03:42
Danny!
03:43
Move, babe, move!
03:45
Rebecca!
03:56
Move, move!
03:57
Shit!
03:58
What did you say?
04:10
Well, here's the thing.
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It's like, you know, where do you guys find it?
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Because it's sometimes an interesting line to walk
04:15
to see where the audience will go with you.
04:17
I mean, at that one point, it doesn't give too much away,
04:19
but towards the end, it gets really,
04:21
that's what reminds me of Scarface.
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It's in this one sequence in a room, you're in a chair.
04:25
It's pretty brutal, you know, but she's laughing through it.
04:29
The blood in her teeth, all this kind of stuff.
04:31
And that's what Tony Montana did that.
04:34
He's like, come on, come at me.
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She's gone.
04:37
She's gone at that point.
04:38
And I think that was a big part of it.
04:40
Like, she kind of had everything she wanted,
04:42
but then she had lost everything at the same time.
04:44
And then Scarface, at the end, he's gone.
04:46
Gone.
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There's no way you're going to get him back.
04:49
And that was like her towards the end.
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She'd lost everything that mattered to her.
04:53
So it was just a, it was really,
04:55
the ending is really bittersweet.
04:57
She's got her journeys, her rise to power,
05:00
but it's kind of tragic as well.
05:03
I don't want to give away too much away.
05:05
No, I don't want to give away anything.
05:07
But it's, it's funny.
05:08
It's just looking at that ambition,
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but it's an ode to so many things.
05:12
I mean, with the tiger, all this,
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you guys place in all these great little details that are
05:17
obviously loves of, of yours from films, you know,
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cause you, you know,
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cause you can look at the tiger and think Scarface,
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but you can also think the hangover, you know,
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you can think all these different things.
05:27
Can you talk about,
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engaging all those homages and trying to, you know,
05:32
pepper in your guys' love of films, obviously.
05:35
Yeah. I mean,
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Neil wanted to make it 60s, 70s vibe.
05:38
And I think he absolutely did that with the colors and the
05:41
way he shot it.
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Simon, our DP was absolutely incredible.
05:44
Yeah.
05:45
And we had to get a tiger in there, of course,
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for the whole nod, nod with Scarface.
05:49
It was, it was either a lion or a tiger.
05:51
And actually we originally,
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we were going to do the tiger,
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But between us,
05:55
we had to reshoot it because it was pretty bad.
05:57
It was really, really cute and cuddly.
05:59
And we were like,
06:00
we looked at it and we were like,
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that's just not believable.
06:02
No.
06:03
So we had to reshoot,
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we had to do some pickup shots and reshoot the tiger,
06:06
which looks awesome.
06:07
Oh no.
06:08
Your, your kick in that one sequence,
06:09
just, you know,
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it's like coming up,
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it's like a 300,
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you know,
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cause that's.
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So,
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you know,
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all of a sudden it's the tiger,
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tiger, tiger,
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tiger, tiger.
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Tiger, tiger, tiger.
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Tiger, tiger, tiger.
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Tiger.
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Tiger.
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Tiger, tiger, tiger.
06:32
Oh,
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it's,
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I forget.
06:39
Tiger.
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Tiger.
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Tiger.
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Tiger.
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God!
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♪♪
06:49
Aah!
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Aah!
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06:55
Aah!
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06:59
Aah!
07:00
Aah!
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Aah!
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07:09
Aah!
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Aah!
07:11
Aah!
07:12
Aah!
07:13
Aah!
07:14
Aah!
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Aah!
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And then I'm just thinking of other things to Scarface.
07:19
I think, like, towards the end, it's just the third act
07:22
where she's absolutely just gone.
07:24
That's the whole essence of I don't care, no-one can stop me.
07:30
You know, as Baraka says, like, what happened to her?
07:35
He says she came back and she changed from the desert.
07:40
I think that was it.
07:41
Like, when you see her in the third act,
07:43
she's just a completely different person now.
07:46
But again, I think it's relatable,
07:48
and I think a lot of people would be and would react like that.
07:51
Maybe not to the extreme she did, but that's why, again,
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we wanted to make her as grounded and as real and relatable as possible,
07:58
because Tony Montana, he's an antihero, but you can't help but love him.
08:01
He's crazy, and he's horrible and despicable,
08:04
but overall, you can't help but watch him and his charisma
08:08
and what he says and how he says it and the situations he puts himself in.
08:13
So that was kind of what we...
08:15
It was like, let's make a female Scarface.
08:17
That's exactly what we wanted to do.
08:19
That was my goal.
08:20
Hey!
08:27
Do you like to play rough?
08:29
You little...
08:31
Get out of my house!
08:32
Sorry.
08:33
Can't do that.
08:34
Maria, get behind me.
08:38
What?
08:39
You think I came here for her?
09:00
Fuck!
09:13
That's a big, big...
09:17
No, that's ambitious, but this is cinema.
09:19
You play it like cinema,
09:21
because cinema allows you to take those journeys.
09:25
My last question, thank you, Charlotte, is...
09:27
But now, into the third film, can you talk about looking at,
09:30
having built these different characters,
09:33
the learning curve going in and making this film?
09:36
And into your next film,
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what has the experience taught you
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in terms of both the logistics, the efficiency,
09:44
but also what you want to accomplish overall?
09:47
I think every film is completely different.
09:50
So Duchess was my third film that I produced and co-wrote.
09:53
Every film is so, so different.
09:55
It's always a different animal, each project.
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But I'm always learning something per project,
10:02
usually from actors, creatively.
10:04
When we're on set, we're playing, we're figuring out the scene.
10:09
It's usually something that someone doesn't say,
10:12
and I'm like, that's so cool.
10:14
I'm going to work in playing off actors.
10:17
And then after this film,
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I shot Fight or Flight with Dolph Lundgren and Michael J. White,
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and it was like, that was so incredible,
10:24
because coming from this, which is kind of action-packed,
10:27
but then going into a full start-to-finish action film,
10:30
it was like, I'd learned, like, okay, if I can do this,
10:33
if I can play Duchess, I think I can play any role.
10:36
And with Dolph, it's interesting,
10:38
because he thinks so much, having talked to him.
10:41
He thinks so much,
10:42
and yet everybody always sees him for his brawn,
10:44
and yet there's so much balance.
10:46
And it's true.
10:48
No, absolutely.
10:49
Like, I could do this.
10:51
So when I was on that set, and I met Dolph and Michael,
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and I was like, yeah, I've just played Duchess.
10:56
I can do this.
10:57
I know they're, like, the two biggest action stars,
10:59
but I've got this.
11:00
Duchess gave me that confidence.
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Hence why one of my production companies
11:03
is called Scarlet Productions.
11:05
Love it. Wonderful.
11:06
Well, thank you, Charlotte.
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I mean, it's a lot of work to make these kind of films,
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and a lot of, you know, investment on your part,
11:13
just time, emotion, everything, you know, and physical.
11:16
My God, yeah.
11:17
Congratulations on that, because it's not easy, I know.
11:19
So thank you very much.
11:21
Thank you for your time.
11:22
No, thank you, Tim.
11:23
Thank you very much.
11:26
I'm going to kill all the men that betrayed me.
11:29
They will eat you alive.
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Do your worst.
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It's not enough to be as good as a man.
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You have to be twice as ruthless.
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And ten times a bitch.
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Oi.
11:49
Yeah!
11:50
Yeah!
11:51
Yeah!
11:52
Yeah!
11:53
Yeah!
11:54
Yeah!
11:55
Yeah!
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Yeah!
11:57
Yeah!
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