IR Interview: The Cairnes Brothers For “Late Night With The Devil” [IFC Films/Shudder] - Part III - video Dailymotion

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Brothers/Filmmakers Colin & Cameron Caires talk to The Inside Reel about perspective, humor, practical effects and finding the line in regards to their new horror film: "Late Night With The Devil" from Shudder and IFC Films.

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00:00 [Music]

00:11 Ladies and gentlemen,

00:13 [Music]

00:15 Now,

00:17 [Music]

00:18 Here is Mr. Mitch "Dark Jack" Downey!

00:22 [Music]

00:29 Late night with the devil.

00:33 See, I want to give away the end, but it just goes very weird.

00:38 Weird and lurid, but it's very specific in what it does, you know.

00:44 Was that just trying to capture a certain kind of imagery

00:47 that you wanted to do once he makes the jump, if you will?

00:51 Yeah.

00:52 I think again, you know, visually,

00:54 it still comes back to that period and films of that era,

00:59 why things were...

01:01 But it is, it's like, are we entering, you know,

01:03 yeah, how much can you say without giving stuff away?

01:05 But, you know, is this literally...

01:08 Is this real or is this a man, you know...

01:11 Or is it in Jack's mind or is it Carmichael's?

01:15 Is it a hypnotism that someone is, you know,

01:17 are we being misdirected by him still?

01:19 Or is it just the audience going insane?

01:21 I mean...

01:23 The devil may well have control of our TVs and our minds.

01:28 So we love the idea that people can draw their own conclusions as to,

01:32 you know, yeah, what it all means.

01:35 Whoa, now, as you know, here on Night Owls,

01:37 we think it's very important to keep an open mind.

01:42 Please welcome Dr June Ross Mitchell and Lily,

01:45 the young subject of the book, Conversations With The Devil.

01:48 I really don't think it's a good idea, Jack.

01:50 It's becoming more unpredictable.

01:52 That's a good thing. That's why we still do live TV.

01:54 Ladies and gentlemen, please stay tuned for a live television first

01:58 as we attempt to commune with the devil.

02:01 Lily, can you hear me?

02:12 Good to see you again, Jack.

02:20 Humour is so important to it, the timing and how that throws it sort of off.

02:24 Can you talk about finding sort of that in between?

02:28 Because David was telling me, like, even just him crossing his legs

02:31 and looking like this can be a humorous moment.

02:34 And he really loved those things because he said he's very technical.

02:38 And he's told me this before.

02:39 But can you talk about finding that humour with the band,

02:43 with the, you know, all these different things, if you could?

02:46 I think that was, you know, going back to what you're saying,

02:48 lulling people into this false sense of security,

02:51 knowing that something bad will happen at some point.

02:54 And that was part of it, just to make it feel as real and light.

02:57 There had to be a lightness to it.

02:59 But, you know, ironically, it's that lightness that kind of makes you realise,

03:03 "Oh, shit, it's going to have to change at some point."

03:05 So, you know, you see some films that do the '70s thing

03:10 or, you know, try to recreate talk shows or TV,

03:14 and often it looks really pastiche-y, you know.

03:17 They've just - everything's a little bit too big and garish.

03:21 So, I don't know, for us it was - with the jokes, I don't know.

03:26 I mean, yeah, we struggled for a long time with the monologue and all that.

03:30 And, you know, we've done quite a bit of comedy stuff over the years

03:33 and we know a lot of good comedy performers and writers back in Australia.

03:36 So we felt like it's stuff we could pull off, but it was still hard work,

03:41 because it is, like you say, trying to find that balance.

03:43 You don't want to go too big and too far

03:45 and make it feel like it is just a parody of the period.

03:49 Lily, I understand that you have a name for this thing

03:53 that lives inside of you.

03:55 Mm-hm.

03:57 I call him Mr Wriggles.

03:59 Why do you call him that?

04:01 He kind of wriggles his way inside my head

04:08 and then he wriggles his way out.

04:10 But with June's help, you are able to control him.

04:15 June says that everyone has a demon inside them,

04:19 but we can't always control them, can we?

04:21 But see, that's when you guys finally rip the rug out

04:25 and it just goes - excuse my language - apeshit,

04:28 when it literally loses its mind.

04:30 I mean, that's just a comparison of doing practical,

04:33 doing the effects and making sure they -

04:36 I mean, it just hits you like a ton of bricks.

04:38 And I watched it with somebody else, and I went, "Wow!"

04:41 But can you talk about sort of finding the right level of that?

04:46 Because it is the right level.

04:48 Yeah. Ooh, tricky.

04:49 I mean, it's just a process, I guess.

04:51 But we knew it had to go there, ultimately,

04:54 and you want this sense prior to that,

04:57 you know, you're drip-feeding little elements, spooky elements,

05:01 but with the promise -

05:02 if people have stayed with you for that period,

05:05 you've got to deliver on the good stuff kind of thing.

05:08 So we didn't hold back.

05:09 Yeah.

05:10 Look, I think it is a bit of a leap of faith on the audience's part.

05:13 It was certainly on our part, but, like, it was liberating.

05:16 Once we went there and we sort of, you know,

05:19 felt we had a resolution to our story, it was like,

05:22 "Well, let's just go all the way, let's embrace that

05:26 and blow people's minds."

05:28 # OPERATIC SINGING #

05:31 Gus, time to move.

05:34 I got it, Jack.

05:36 # OPERATIC SINGING #

05:42 Jack, there's off-scripts for that thing.

05:45 How the hell should I know?

05:47 # OPERATIC SINGING #

05:52 # SCREAMING #

05:59 I do - I've got to say, I like what you guys are saying.

06:02 Like, filmmaking is a leap of faith

06:04 because you never quite know how it's going to turn out, you know?

06:07 So, because I take this as completely -

06:09 is it completely different from what you thought it was,

06:12 or did it go along a certain line of what you guys hoped it would be?

06:16 Because you never know.

06:18 No, you don't know, but we are very - we're happy.

06:21 We're satisfied with the result.

06:23 And it did - look, the ending, you know,

06:25 the last sort of 20 pages of the script were in a state of flux,

06:28 really, until pre-production.

06:30 Maybe a week, two weeks out from the shoot,

06:32 we were still tinkering with that, moving things around.

06:35 But as cut, it's still - it's pretty close to the shooting script,

06:39 I think.

06:40 So there was a plan, there was, but we were never quite sure

06:44 with the addition of music and sound design.

06:46 You know, we weren't sure if there was going to be any music at all,

06:49 other than the band.

06:51 Yeah.

06:52 There's diegetic music.

06:53 The score.

06:54 Yeah.

06:55 And I think we've, again, allowed ourselves a few liberties

06:58 late in the piece.

06:59 Yeah.

07:00 It's funny because, you know, you read some reviews or some,

07:03 I guess, just some random punters and their take

07:06 on the whole found footage thing, and it's like,

07:08 "Oh, you're breaking the rules of found footage?"

07:10 And, you know, you go to this documentary and then you go

07:13 to the tape and it's like, "I didn't realise there were rules."

07:16 You know?

07:17 I just thought, "And if there were, and if we knew about them,

07:20 we probably would have broken them anyway."

07:22 No-one's going anywhere.

07:23 How could you let it happen, Jack?

07:25 How could you let it happen?

07:26 Please be warned, anyone with young children in the room.

07:28 Go to information!

07:29 Go to information!

07:30 You're about to see...

07:31 You okay, Jack?

07:32 ...what's profoundly disturbing and shocking.

07:35 Get out there, Mr Midnight.

07:39 And you are not going to dare to...

07:44 (SCREAMING)

07:46 (SCREAMING)

07:47 (SCREAMING)

07:49 (GUNSHOTS)

07:51 (GUNSHOTS)

07:52 (SCREAMING)

07:53 (GUNSHOTS)

07:54 (SCREAMING)

07:55 (whooshing)

07:57 [BLANK_AUDIO]

IR Interview: The Cairnes Brothers For “Late Night With The Devil” [IFC Films/Shudder] - Part III

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