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Should ad hoc judges be appointed? Legal expert Shah Khawar's Analysis
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7/18/2024
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Should ad hoc judges be appointed? Legal expert Shah Khawar's Analysis
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They are talking about conspiracy and timing, we have seen in the past that ad hoc judges come for a year
00:07
but here they say 3 years from the Chief Justice and then afloat their name before taking it into consultation in the Judicial Commission.
00:16
Are you seeing this conspiracy?
00:18
Look, I see it from a different angle.
00:21
Actually, the political situation has become so polarized and divided that even if someone takes a step with good intentions,
00:31
it will be seen from the point of view of doubt, it will be seen from a political angle.
00:35
And sir, mind you, due to these controversies, Mr. Shah Khawar could not keep himself safe. Do you agree to that?
00:41
Look, I have a different point of view.
00:45
Look, it is also being said that the minority is being tried to turn into the majority.
00:50
Where is the majority in the Supreme Court in the High Court?
00:53
Look, if you talk about the minority and the majority,
00:57
if you say that Qazi Faiz Isa and those 4 judges were against the PTI and were close to the establishment,
01:04
and the rest were very supportive of the PTI,
01:08
then will you call those 8 judges the judge of the PTI and call others the minority?
01:13
Leave aside the minority and the majority.
01:16
Do not impose politics on the institutions.
01:19
It is very simple.
01:21
Let me tell you about Sardar Tariq Masood.
01:25
In his time, as long as he was a judge, he used to head an army bench and he used to decide dozens of cases in a day.
01:34
And after he left, a vacuum was created.
01:36
Because at the moment, there is no expert judge in the army.
01:41
And keeping this in mind, 2-3 months ago,
01:45
or rather 2-2.5 months ago, we were hearing about this,
01:49
that Sardar Tariq and other judges are being requested to come as an ad hoc judge and end the backlog.
01:56
But unfortunately, the list that has come, or the proposal that has come to the Judicial Commission,
02:01
has come at a time when our country is at the brink of division.
02:05
It is evident that the Supreme Court is also at the brink of division.
02:09
I say that this is a timing coincidence.
02:12
But I would even say that there should be not 4, not 8, but 10 ad hoc judges in the Supreme Court.
02:19
We have more than 58,000 pendency.
02:22
And the time that we consume is in cases of political nature.
02:26
I will not only say this, but I will also say that to end the backlog in the High Courts,
02:32
you still have provisions there.
02:35
Even if the constitutional strength of the High Court is complete,
02:40
you can keep additional judges for 1-2-3 years, so that it can end the backlog.
02:47
People are very worried.
02:49
People's military cases, death penalty prisoners have been waiting for their fate for many years.
02:56
Similarly, there are civilian cases.
02:58
So I think we have to look at rational things.
03:01
I would say that you should postpone it.
03:04
But Mansoor Ali Shah, the Chief Justice, should come.
03:07
I would also recommend him to make ad hoc judges to end this backlog.
03:12
And don't look at it with doubtful eyes.
03:15
So you don't see any controversy in the timing?
03:18
No, I don't think there is any bad faith in this.
03:21
There is good faith.
03:22
If there was bad faith and they didn't give their rationality to the majority,
03:27
Mr. Shah Khawar, do you think there should be any condition on this?
03:32
Because all the Bars have stood up.
03:34
Look, there is also division in the Bars.
03:36
Today, the Pakistan Bar Council is separate.
03:39
Look, unfortunately, the Bar Association and Bar Councils are considered non-partisan.
03:46
They are also victims of political division.
03:48
Now let me tell you an honest thing.
03:50
The thing is that if these four judges were brought in to change their rationality to the majority,
03:57
then why did two judges decline them?
04:00
They declined them bona fide.
04:02
Because one judge is running a trust and the other is also busy.
04:06
And they have said that being an ad hoc judge is a requirement,
04:12
it is a regular procedure, there is no mistake in it.
04:15
So I don't think it is right to create so much hype.
04:18
But I will present before you a little bit of a background of their details.
04:49
Look, let me tell you one thing.
04:52
The thing is that as far as the legal provision is concerned, it is there.
04:55
Yes, it is definitely there.
04:57
As I said earlier, because there is a lot of political tension at the moment.
05:01
The division is clearly visible in the institutions, including the judiciary and the Supreme Court.
05:06
In that, I am saying that even if it is done with good intentions,
05:10
it will be seen from the point of view of suspicion.
05:13
So I am giving importance to the fact that being an ad hoc judge is not as bad as you are portraying it.
05:22
But you cannot break it apart from the political situation.
05:26
You tell me, what will the two judges do?
05:30
How much difference will they make?
05:32
Look, if there is a review on the decision of the special sessions,
05:38
then the review will be heard by the eight judges who have decided.
05:41
These additional ad hoc judges have nothing to do with it.
05:44
None of them will sit.
05:46
And the second thing is that…
05:47
Mr. Shah Khawar will not sit?
05:48
None of them will sit.
05:50
Look, the second thing is that Justice Manzoor Ali Shah is coming in October.
05:56
The formation of benches and making a roster is the job of the Chief Justice.
06:00
Do not make them sit in the case of importance.
06:03
Keep them only up to the previous backlog.
06:08
If these two judges want to come or the Judicial Commission makes them,
06:14
then I think that thousands of cases will be solved in four months.
06:18
Look at the prisoner whose appeal is for death penalty.
06:22
If 500 appeals are adjudicated in 2-3 months, then it will benefit the public.
06:33
So, we should not look at everything with suspicion.
06:36
We should not create hype on things.
06:38
In fact, today, Azam Nazeer Tarar, our colleague,
06:41
when he was doing a press conference, I messaged him.
06:44
I told him to announce that we will appoint additional judges in the backlog in the High Courts.
06:51
Why these four judges, Mr. Shah Khawar?
06:54
Why these four judges?
06:55
Mr. Sajjad Ali Shah, Mr. Mazhar Alamia, Mr. Ijaz-ul-Ahsan,
06:58
Mr. Manzoor Ahmed Malik, Mr. Maqbool Bakar, Mr. Musheer Alam, Mr. Iqbal Hameed,
07:03
Mr. Mazhar Ali Akbar, Mr. Naqvi, why only these four judges?
07:06
Let me tell you.
07:07
The qualification of these judges is that they can become judges of the Supreme Court
07:13
who have not been retired in the last three years.
07:16
I have told you this list from them.
07:18
Tell me from them.
07:19
I think that the judges who are available among them should also be brought.
07:22
Why these four judges, sir?
07:24
This can be the wisdom of the Judicial Commission.
07:27
I am not aware of it.
07:29
But it is certain that two of them, Mr. Mazhar Alamia Khel…
07:35
He has apologized.
07:36
No, no, I am talking about Mr. Mazhar Alamia Khel.
07:39
Justice Tariq Masood, he is an expert in military cases.
07:43
And we can see the logic in that why he was told.
07:46
The rest of you who are talking about something, they have already resigned.
07:50
So I don't think they will like to come.
07:52
So two of them have resigned.
07:54
In which Justice Azul Ahsan was going to become the Chief Justice.
07:57
Justice Manzoor is a member of JC already.
08:00
So I think that this concept is not bad.
08:03
It is just the timing that has made this whole process suspicious.
08:07
I think there is no need to create so much hype in this.
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