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00:00Salaam-o-Alaikum viewers, welcome to our first program of the week.
00:16In today's program, we will talk about the case of three seats in Islamabad.
00:23The election tribunal has been dismissed and the decision of the election commission has been terminated.
00:30We will discuss the development of the case in court.
00:33Along with this, you know that there is a meeting of the Apex Committee.
00:37We have heard a lot of news about it in the parliament.
00:43Today, the Chief Minister of Pakhtunkhwa met Bani PTI, their leader, and they held a press conference.
00:51We do not see any consensus on this issue.
00:56Of course, terrorism is a problem.
00:58We will talk about Pakistan People's Party and Pakistan Muslim League Noon.
01:03I think it was written on the wall that they have to meet each other.
01:08The Chief Minister had told us that they have to swim and dive together.
01:13He has agreed.
01:15He will tell you what he has agreed on.
01:18The police and the district should be on my side.
01:21I am happy.
01:22The rest is not a problem.
01:23The case of Pakistan should continue.
01:25But first of all, our today's top story.
01:28You have heard the live transmission from the Supreme Court of Pakistan.
01:34The reserved seats, especially for women,
01:38who have been declared as independent by the election committee of Pakistan.
01:49Now they are asking for their seats.
01:51There are about 70 seats in the provincial and national assembly.
01:58They are asking for their seats.
02:00They are asking for their share.
02:01The case is going on.
02:03The hearing will conclude tomorrow.
02:07This is what was said by the Chief Justice.
02:09Today, when the case started again after the Eid holidays,
02:14the important questions that were raised there,
02:17some live coverage, we will put it in front of you.
02:21After that, we will listen to our panelists and discuss it.
02:25First of all, Chief Justice Qazi Faiz Isa Sahib raised a very important point.
02:32If you put it in front of you, it seems that the matter is solved.
02:36There should be no delay in this.
02:38Listen to what he is saying.
02:39PTI continued to exist as a political party.
02:44Then why did these independents not join PTI?
02:49Didn't you commit suicide yourself?
02:51No.
02:52Why didn't you vote for PTI?
02:54Why did you vote for the Sunni Unity Council?
02:58You could have had a very good case if you had voted for PTI.
03:03Ladies and gentlemen, this is the important point
03:05on which you know that our experts, even our panelists,
03:10their opinions are divided.
03:13Hassan Ayub thinks that when there is no symbol,
03:16then there is no party.
03:17That is independence.
03:18We will talk more about this.
03:20But Justice Muneeb Akhtar, the Supreme Court decision,
03:26explained why the independents were declared.
03:32These people filed nomination forms as candidates of PTI.
03:38They fought that election on that basis.
03:40They were returned on that basis.
03:42ECB says no, they are independent.
03:45Simply because of the judgment of the Supreme Court.
03:48That's a very dangerous interpretation.
03:51Now the whole matter is the judgment of the Supreme Court,
03:55its interpretation.
03:57Jaisal Atar Malala also said that the judgment of the Supreme Court
04:02by the Interpretation Election Commission is very dangerous.
04:062nd February 2024, Election Commission's order
04:11declared all of you as independents.
04:14They grossly misinterpreted the judgment of this court.
04:19This is a coincidence.
04:22The first point that we told you,
04:24the remarks that were made during the hearing,
04:26of course there is no judgment,
04:28was that PTI as a party was present.
04:31The Election Commission said that your party is not present.
04:35We do not accept the affidavit of PTI.
04:39You are independents.
04:41After this, the whole issue arose.
04:43After that, Justice Jamal Mandokhil asked,
04:48does the Election Commission have the right to do this?
04:52The Election Commission has the right to say that I am affiliated with the party.
04:56And they say, no, no, you are independent.
04:58Do they have this right?
04:59In our opinion, it was wrong.
05:00That's why we went to the High Court.
05:01All the candidates who were included in your party,
05:04if they were not free, would they have been included in your party?
05:08No, they would not have been included.
05:10Then they were not free.
05:11They have been freed by the Election Commission.
05:14Viewers, let's put section 94 in front of you,
05:18whose interpretation was made by the Election Commission,
05:22which obviously became a big challenge for Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf.
05:28If we could show section 94,
05:31Viewers, you are seeing the last explanation.
05:34For the purpose of this rule,
05:36the expression political party means
05:39a political party to which a symbol has been allocated by the Commission.
05:44If a political party does not get the election symbol,
05:50then it is no longer a political party,
05:53according to section 94 of the Election Act.
05:58Today, I was listening to the Chief Justice.
06:00He was also saying that
06:02you are knowing a further explanation of the interpretation of a rule,
06:09but you are not paying attention to the constitution.
06:13The constitution says that a political party used to exist.
06:16And the Chief Justice said that you committed suicide.
06:20Why did you go to the Sunni Jihad Council?
06:23Now I want to tell you that sort again.
06:32Then why did these independents not join PTI?
06:37Didn't you commit suicide yourself?
06:39No.
06:40Why did you not choose PTI?
06:42Why did you not choose the Sunni Jihad Council?
06:46It could have been a very good case if you had chosen PTI.
06:50Hassan, I will start with you because you keep reporting on the Supreme Court.
06:56The decision that the Chief Justice referred to,
07:01he said that the interpretation that you made,
07:04what I said in section 94,
07:06what I was seeing today,
07:07Salman Rehman Rai Sahib said,
07:09that in front of us, that was the interpretation.
07:11On top of that, the Chief Justice said
07:13that you kept interpreting the Election Commission as you wanted,
07:17so why did you have to listen to them?
07:20So, PTI continues to exist as a political party.
07:27It still exists.
07:28They should have gone there.
07:30Now, suppose there is a procedure delay,
07:32and this is a mistake at any level,
07:34how will it be corrected?
07:36What do you think about today's hearings?
07:38What is your take-away?
07:40The first correction was that the PTI would have got the uniform symbol.
07:45But because of the intraparty election,
07:47for example, your favourite Noreen and Farooq had come.
07:51Yes, they should have been there.
07:53So, these PTI people came and knocked on the door of the court.
08:01Then the court opened,
08:03and then what happened in front of you.
08:05In any case, when Sunni Ithaat Council was not a parliamentary party,
08:10they have committed suicide
08:13that they went to that party which is not present in the parliament,
08:16which has not contested the election.
08:18Now, their head has also not contested the election.
08:21Now, they have asked for a nomination from their head.
08:24They have brought a nomination form.
08:26I have heard that.
08:27Now, they will bring the nomination form tomorrow.
08:30The remarks of the Chief Justice.
08:32Sir, I am coming to the main point on the remarks.
08:34They have asked for it.
08:35So, basically, let me tell you one thing frankly.
08:37Salman Akram Raja sir always impresses.
08:40Faisal Siddiqui sir is a very good lawyer.
08:42Both are very good lawyers.
08:43But the case of both is very weak.
08:45Now, both are demanding from the court.
08:48And even if the court wants,
08:50maybe it will not allow their petitions.
08:54Because it is very clear,
08:56the constitution of Pakistan
08:58and it is saying in two ways
09:00that the party which is not a parliamentary party,
09:02in that and it cannot get special seats.
09:05Where is it written?
09:06These people are independents.
09:08No, where have you written?
09:09Where is the constitution clear?
09:10The constitution is very clear.
09:11Article 51, if you read.
09:12What is written in it?
09:13Article 51 clause C, if you read.
09:15What is written in it?
09:16If you read it in front of me, what is it?
09:18It has to win.
09:20It is a must to win a seat.
09:23That is the question actually.
09:24That is the question.
09:25For that, it is a must to secure a seat.
09:28Now, they are not saying to secure a seat.
09:30Then you make it a parliamentary party.
09:32It is not a word of a parliamentary party.
09:34It is a legal issue.
09:35It is a legal issue.
09:36It is not the word of the constitution
09:37that you read it.
09:38It is sub judice.
09:39It is 51C.
09:40It is sub judice.
09:42Sir, I am telling you that there is no word
09:45parliamentary party.
09:46The word in it is that...
09:47He has not won any seat.
09:49Any seat.
09:50But, you know, the independents,
09:52they can also join any political party.
09:54This is your initial remarks.
09:57Please read it.
09:58PTI continued to exist as a political party.
10:03Then why did these independents not join PTI?
10:08PTI?
10:09Didn't you commit suicide yourself?
10:11No.
10:12Why didn't you choose PTI?
10:14Why did you choose the Sunni Ijtihad Council?
10:18It could have been a very good case
10:20if you had chosen PTI.
10:22He is right.
10:23Mr. Nagbir, your opinion on this is very clear.
10:26And most of the Pakistanis and Pakistanis in Pakistan...
10:30I didn't hear Mr. Hassan Ayyub's entire speech.
10:33No, I heard it.
10:34I heard it.
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39:07I was listening to the statement of the Minister of Defence, Mr. Khawaja Hassan.
39:13All of them agreed and did not say anything.
39:16Now that they have come out and are talking, how will the situation progress?
39:20Of course, without consensus, without...
39:23Obviously, they are saying the right thing that you cannot fight a war without the people.
39:28For that, it is necessary that everyone should come together.
39:31Respected Mr. Khawar Gohman,
39:33with the Chinese delegation, all the relevant political parties of Pakistan are sitting on one table.
39:41Those who were sitting in the governments, those who are sitting in the opposition,
39:46a good message has gone to the entire nation of Pakistan,
39:51that we mean business.
39:53And where it is a matter of taking the interests of Pakistan forward,
39:56its security, its preservation, we are one.
40:02And those who are saying that you must create political stability,
40:07then you should listen to them.
40:10You are always taking a knife and stabbing them every other day.
40:19This business will not work.
40:21These people have already rejected it and there will be no use of it in the future.
40:25If they are sitting with you, with the Chinese delegation,
40:32then I think this is a very big plus for Pakistan.
40:36It should be taken forward.
40:38Absolutely right, Mr. Chaudhary.
40:40Viewers, as expected, the Pakistan People's Party and Noon League issue has come to an end.
40:45Especially, I was reading the story of Duniya Akhbar, what is their demand in it?
40:49Mr. Baldyati, elections should be held in Punjab on time.
40:53We should get the development fund on an equal basis.
40:59An additional secretary will be appointed in the ministerial secretariat.
41:02Along with that, they are also saying that we should get the deputy commissioner in our area,
41:07where we are positioned.
41:09And the police officer should also be of our choice.
41:13And the revenue officers should also be of our choice.
41:16The revenue officers, in common sense, should also be of our choice.
41:21But Mr. Chaudhary, the most important news that I have seen today,
41:25Tahiya Qaid is very unhappy.
41:30He is not well at all.
41:32The kind of budget, the so-called poor-happy budget,
41:37Mr. Asif Bhutto has also made a very good comment on this.
41:41He is also saying that this is a completely unsuccessful budget,
41:46and a very strict budget in relation to the poor.
41:48If I could show you the news, Tahiya Qaid is very upset.
41:53He said that he will not come.
41:55There is also the news that Mr. Hamza Shahbaz, who used to be very active, is also not active.
42:02So, Hassan, what kind of issue is this? Where are we?
42:06Sir, your budget has to be approved by 28th.
42:09No, we know that.
42:10And this budget is a matter of days.
42:13If you want to do it before that, you can do it.
42:15No, this is from the first day.
42:16Yes, from the first day.
42:17So, you can do it in a day.
42:18So, it's okay. He is not in the budget.
42:20His focus is on work.
42:21He is the party president.
42:22Look, he is very busy.
42:24It's not like Mr. Nawaz Sharif is sitting at home at this time.
42:26Have you read the news?
42:27Yes, I have read the news.
42:28I will talk about my news.
42:30So, what should I talk about?
42:31The government of Pakistan is in trouble right now.
42:38They are doing it in the morning as well.
42:39Their focus is on Punjab.
42:41Their daughter is playing her first inning.
42:44They are supporting their daughter a lot.
42:48They say that the budget is irrelevant.
42:51No, it's not irrelevant.
42:53The loyalty budget is also Mr. Nawaz Sharif's.
42:56The morning budget is also Mr. Nawaz Sharif's.
42:58Remember this.
42:59The loyalty budget is also Mr. Nawaz Sharif's.
43:00Okay, the time is less, Mr. Nagvi.
43:01The morning budget is also Mr. Nawaz Sharif's.
43:04There is no difference.
43:05You are right.
43:08Mr. Nagvi and Mr. Hassan, we listen to you quietly.
43:14We should listen to you as well.
43:15What is your opinion?
43:16Mr. Nawaz Sharif is not coming.
43:20He is a political leader.
43:22There is news from Lahore.
43:24All the newspapers are publishing it.
43:25One newspaper has also published it.
43:26They are worried.
43:28They are unhappy.
43:31I will answer your argument.
43:37Because you often raise this question.
43:40And Mr. Chaudhary as well.
43:41I will answer it.
43:43You say that Mr. Nawaz Sharif has an objection to this budget.
43:46Mr. Nawaz Sharif is not in the government.
43:49Mr. Shahbaz Sharif is not in the government.