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00:00Assalam-o-Alaikum, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the program.
00:03Today, we will talk about Mr. Gandapur.
00:07He is back.
00:08Yesterday, he gave a very powerful speech.
00:12In that speech, he highlighted various points.
00:16Now, we will know from Hassan and our panelists,
00:19what will be the effects of that on the politics of Pakistan in the coming days.
00:23Because he gave a very harsh speech.
00:26Will the Bani PTI Military Trial take place or not?
00:31In this regard, a petition has been submitted to the Salamat High Court.
00:35And it has been asked for a few days.
00:38Along with this, we will talk about the extension of Chief Justice.
00:43Maulana Fazlur Rehman went to the National Assembly today.
00:46He expressed his views there.
00:48And he has given some suggestions.
00:51And what are those suggestions?
00:53How should the selection of Chief Justice be done?
00:56We will talk about that as well.
00:58But first of all, our top story today, ladies and gentlemen,
01:00is on the night between 9th and 10th September,
01:04when the MNAS was arrested from inside the parliament.
01:08In that regard, this petition has been made so far.
01:12Who arrested him?
01:14Why was he arrested?
01:16With whose permission was he arrested?
01:18And the most interesting thing is,
01:22till now, the Minister of Interior,
01:24I think he is still in the Senate, because he is a senator.
01:27Otherwise, he is a minister as well.
01:29So, he can go to the National Assembly as well.
01:31So, he should have given an initial report there.
01:34He is missing from the scene.
01:36Prime Minister, of course, he comes under him.
01:39Prime Minister is also silent.
01:41We are not getting any news from there as well.
01:44And today, we have come to know,
01:46that the Speaker of the National Assembly
01:48has written a letter to the Minister of Interior,
01:50asking him to give a 7-day report.
01:53Now, 7 days, I don't understand.
01:55Today is the third day.
01:57He was arrested from inside the parliament.
02:00We should know by now, who came and who arrested him.
02:03And if someone has trespassed,
02:06if someone has violated the law,
02:10then a disciplinary action can be taken against them.
02:12And today, when a lot of questions were asked to the Speaker,
02:17he was worried.
02:19He said, I think I will have to resign.
02:22I don't want to stay on this seat.
02:25Because, of course, all the questions are being asked to him.
02:28Being custodian of the house.
02:30Initially, he suspended Sergeant-at-Arms.
02:33The five CDA people,
02:36who arrange for the electricity generator,
02:38because they ran out of oil that night.
02:42He suspended them as well.
02:44Apart from this, we have not received any testimony
02:48as to the reasons for his arrest.
02:50Azhar Malik Sahib is with us.
02:52Let's see what he has to say.
02:54Azhar Sahib, the Speaker was very worried today.
02:57And his statement,
02:59that maybe he will have to resign from his office.
03:04Is there something in his control?
03:07Is he under pressure?
03:10He doesn't want to talk about it.
03:12Two days ago, he was saying,
03:14that there are a lot of things off the record.
03:16I can't talk in front of him.
03:18So, he has spoken to you off the record.
03:20It's okay.
03:21He has ordered the production today.
03:23People have come.
03:24It was good.
03:25He made a good decision.
03:27And I think the atmosphere was much better today.
03:30So, let's find out.
03:32How difficult is this?
03:36Azhar Malik Sahib, I have been calling you for two days.
03:40Your voice is not clear.
03:44Your voice is not clear.
03:46Azhar Farooq Sahib, let's call him again.
03:51Let's call him again.
03:54Hassan, you tell me.
03:56Why is it so?
03:58It's the third day.
03:59Where is the Indian minister?
04:01He should have come and given it to me.
04:04I believe he is in a cabinet meeting.
04:06He has attended a cabinet meeting today.
04:08The prime minister has also chaired the cabinet meeting.
04:11Obviously, this matter must have been discussed.
04:14I was not in the cabinet meeting.
04:16But the speaker himself is saying that
04:18I will go to my room and decide whether I want to stay in this office or not.
04:25He is a free man.
04:26If he wants to leave, he can leave.
04:28Obviously, if he thinks that he is not performing his duties,
04:32the way he should perform his duties,
04:35and if he thinks that he cannot perform his duties properly,
04:39or if he thinks that his authority is being challenged,
04:44then he should resign.
04:47Azhar Farooq, why did you appear in this room today?
04:51Is there anything in his power?
04:53Are you making any noise?
04:56You seem to be a little worried.
04:58Are you not sharing any facts and figures?
05:02Mr. Khalid, the speaker is not a little worried.
05:05In fact, he is very worried.
05:07Today, he has made it clear that he is under a lot of pressure.
05:11That is why he said that he will have to think about it.
05:14He will have to go back to the chamber and decide whether he should stay in this seat or not.
05:18Because for the past two days, not only the opposition,
05:21but also the ruling benches are being accused of attacking the parliament.
05:26And there have been arrests from within the parliament.
05:29Although the speaker has taken action,
05:31he has suspended some people,
05:33but the parliament has demanded that
05:35he should either close the parliament,
05:39or the people who are involved in the arrests should be punished.
05:43Today, the arrests that were made,
05:46when they came into the parliament house,
05:48they have heard all the rumours in the assembly today,
05:51that how they were arrested,
05:53and how they were arrested.
05:56After that, the atmosphere became more tense.
05:59Therefore, on that occasion, the speaker had to say that
06:02I know that I am under a lot of pressure.
06:04You cannot assess this.
06:06Yesterday, he also told Mr. Goar that
06:08you will meet me alone.
06:10I will tell you everything in my chamber.
06:12Today, the speaker has also said that
06:14I am under pressure.
06:16If you people think that I could not play my role,
06:19then I will definitely go back to the chamber and think about it.
06:22I will have to think about it,
06:24whether I should remain on the seat or not.
06:26And today, when he made the assembly chair,
06:29his face was visible throughout the day,
06:32that there is a lot of pressure on him,
06:34and he is also worried.
06:36Thank you very much, Mr. Farooq.
06:38Ladies and gentlemen,
06:40the point that I talked about,
06:42that the Minister of Interior is missing,
06:44the Prime Minister is missing,
06:46and the cabinet meeting that took place today,
06:48there are news coming from there,
06:50there are talks about the IMF,
06:52there are talks about the economy.
06:54This matter, especially the arrest of parliamentarians,
06:56there was no talk about it.
06:58Listen to what Mr. Ali Muhammad Khan is saying.
07:00Mr. Shahbaz Sharif and Mr. Nawaz Sharif,
07:02does anyone know where they are?
07:04There is a lot of drama behind Mr. Gandapur.
07:06The Prime Minister has been missing for 72 hours.
07:08People have been picked up from the Parliament House.
07:10Where are you?
07:12Mr. Shahbaz Sharif,
07:14the people who have given you the respect of the Prime Minister,
07:16come and tell them.
07:18It is as if you are not a minister in this country.
07:20The parliamentarians were picked up from the Parliament House.
07:22This honor, this gold cup,
07:24was in the fate of Mr. Nawaz Sharif
07:26and Mr. Shahbaz Sharif.
07:30Mr. Naqvi,
07:32we have been worried for two days.
07:34You have also disappeared somewhere
07:36with those parliamentarians.
07:38You were looking for them.
07:40Where were you missing?
07:42Tell us.
07:44We can't say it was day or night.
07:46Nine MNAs have been arrested
07:48in the history of Pakistan.
07:50You know that it is the heart of the city.
07:52Everything is monitored there.
07:54The IG says that
07:56he has followed all the procedures.
07:58The Prime Minister says
08:00that he has not done it at all.
08:02He has also suspended some people.
08:04What is the solution?
08:06You are very good at suggesting solutions.
08:08What is the solution to this?
08:10You suggest this whole matter
08:12so that it can move forward.
08:14You know that I am out of Pakistan
08:16because of my business.
08:18I was not missing.
08:20I was busy with that.
08:22You took the MNAs
08:24from the parliament.
08:26I want to ask
08:28one question
08:30to the people who did it.
08:32What was the benefit?
08:34You take harsh decisions
08:36only when there is a benefit.
08:38What was the benefit?
08:40What was the outcome?
08:42It is very important
08:44to think before taking such decisions.
08:46What is the benefit
08:48of taking such decisions
08:50if you are doing it for a purpose?
08:52This is one thing.
08:54Secondly,
08:56I always try to read
08:58between the lines.
09:00I feel that these three big parties
09:02will soon be on the same page.
09:04All three will be fighting
09:06and all three will be
09:08going through the same situation.
09:10I have already told you
09:12that if they don't do anything
09:14by 30th August,
09:16their situation will be very bad.
09:18So you feel that the situation is getting worse.
09:20Yes, it is getting worse.
09:22I don't think that anything will go
09:24towards betterment.
09:26Respected Maulana Fazl-ur-Rehman
09:28went on the floor of house today
09:30and he condemned
09:32without any malice
09:34that this is wrong.
09:36Such a tradition
09:38cannot be allowed in any situation.
09:42In your leadership,
09:44these animals should be
09:46locked up for at least three days
09:48as a protest against
09:50the kind of threats
09:52they will face in the future.
09:54Mr. Shoaib,
09:56he is saying that
09:58animals should be locked up
10:00for three days as a protest.
10:02If people from here
10:04arrest MNS
10:06and the stories of poor MNS
10:08are being told,
10:10you should also explain
10:12as you have more experience
10:14and have covered many assemblies.
10:16Mr. Shoaib.
10:18First of all,
10:20Mr. Dhaneshwar
10:22who was saying yesterday
10:24that he has become a good boy,
10:26he should make him a good boy.
10:28Mr. Shoaib,
10:30he will make him a good boy.
10:32He will make a very good boy.
10:34Don't worry Hassan,
10:36we will also tell the story
10:38of a good boy.
10:40We will also talk about
10:42the story of a good boy.
10:44Mr. Sardar Ayyad Sadiq
10:46who is the Speaker
10:48of the National Assembly
10:50has come to a point
10:52where he is thinking
10:54whether he should stay
10:56or not.
10:58He is thinking about
11:00his helplessness,
11:02his pressure
11:04and matters beyond his control.
11:10The Assembly
11:12and the Parliament
11:14have become
11:16a meaningless institution
11:18in the last three days.
11:20It would have been better
11:22if the people who have transgressed
11:24and have taken the law in their hands
11:26and have tried to destroy
11:28the institution,
11:30would have been able to stand
11:32in the queue.
11:34On the contrary,
11:36the stories of the members
11:38who have come back
11:40are very scary.
11:42This is not a good sign
11:44of a good direction.
11:50It is better
11:52to turn to the law
11:54which I have been saying
11:56from day one.
11:58It will destroy
12:00the country, society
12:02and Pakistan.
12:06When I take the law in my hands
12:08and start saying whatever I want
12:10and the Khawar government
12:12who is the anchor here
12:14does not listen to me,
12:16then how can you control
12:18and make discipline in this show?
12:20This is what is happening.
12:24The Islamabad Police
12:26claimed that
12:28IG Islamabad
12:30said the other day
12:32that they have followed
12:34all the procedures.
12:36Let me show you again.
12:38IG Islamabad,
12:40what did they say?
12:42We have followed
12:44all the procedures.
12:46I will repeat
12:48your question.
12:50We followed the procedure.
12:52We did not do anything
12:54without permission.
12:56All the procedures
12:58of National Assembly
13:00in which we have to
13:02give information
13:04or information
13:06are available.
13:08They are available on the internet.
13:10All the procedures
13:12and manuals
13:14and all the instructions
13:16have been followed.
13:20Tariq Fazal Chowdhury,
13:22the head of Pakistan Muslim League Noon,
13:24when he was asked,
13:26he said,
13:28I think permission has been taken.
13:30This is what IG Islamabad is saying.
13:32Did anyone ask the speaker?
13:34A SHO asked the speaker.
13:36It is not about permission,
13:38but it was intimated.
13:40You are saying that the speaker
13:42was told before the action.
13:46You must have heard
13:48Hassan Faisal Wardak.
13:50The government has done this.
13:52Now they are not
13:54standing on their feet.
13:56If this has happened,
13:58what is the speaker afraid of?
14:00The speaker says,
14:02you have suspended
14:04Sergeant-at-Arms.
14:06You have suspended
14:08the poor people.
14:10I don't understand.
14:12The federal government has not done anything.
14:14Why is the speaker not accepting?
14:16I fully understand.
14:18A crime has been committed.
14:20It is against the law.
14:22You have not kept the police
14:24only to get beaten up.
14:26Wherever you go,
14:28beat them up,
14:30injure SSP officers,
14:32hospitalize them.
14:34You have arrested the FIRs of 788.
14:36Whether they are right or wrong,
14:38the court has to decide.
14:40If they are making a wrong case,
14:42it will be questioned in the court.
14:44But you are saying that
14:46this case has not been investigated yet.
14:48I fail to understand
14:50why the speaker is so back footed.
14:52The speaker used to say that he had contact.
14:54When Zain Krishi
14:56contacted him on the telephone,
14:58he still had contact.
15:00He was saying that he was trying.
15:02But what happened after that?
15:04Did he give permission or not?
15:06If he did, then he should stand on his feet.
15:08If, for example,
15:10his instructions have been violated
15:12and he is aware of it,
15:14in spite of all this,
15:16if the speaker wants to resign,
15:18he is a free man.
15:22This is a story.
15:24Why is the speaker upset?
15:26I don't understand.
15:30On one hand,
15:32he is suspending the employees.
15:34On the other hand,
15:36he is ordering an inquiry.
15:38On one hand,
15:40he is asking for an answer from the minister.
15:42I think Mr. Nawaz Sharif
15:44has reached Islamabad.
15:46Mr. Mian should also
15:48ask him in a better way.
15:50He has come to you.
15:52I think Mr. Nawaz Sharif
15:54has come to you.
15:56I think Mr. Nawaz Sharif
15:58has come to you.
16:00Mr. Chaudhary Gulab Hussain
16:02also wants to talk to you.
16:04Mr. Chaudhary Gulab Hussain also wants to talk to you.
16:06Mr. Khawar Govind,
16:08Mr. Khawar Govind,
16:10I have my own
16:12procedural.
16:14I want to arrest the members
16:16in the parliament.
16:18Who has given permission?
16:20Which country has given you permission?
16:22A text to go
16:24and advise.
16:26Sanctity
16:28of the institution of law making
16:30of course.
16:32You integrate,
16:34you fed up,
16:36who does have permission
16:38Who gave you permission?
16:40I mean, if the speaker is under pressure, it's because of this.
16:44Okay, one minute, one minute.
16:46She's talking about the cabinet gate.
16:48Mr. Police Chief, let me clarify a little.
16:50The police says that we arrested you because of the cabinet gate.
16:53We didn't even go to the Parliament.
16:55Okay, listen, listen.
16:56Mr. Nagvi, you...
16:57Hey, I just...
16:58I just got a statement from Amrita.
17:00Okay.
17:00That we ran away because we were on the third floor.
17:02Okay, Mr. Nagvi, do you understand anything
17:04that this speaker...
17:06Mr. Farooq said that the speaker says that he's under a lot of pressure.
17:09I'm thinking of resigning.
17:11The speaker being under pressure...
17:13I mean, if the IG police is saying that they've followed the rules,
17:17they didn't arrest them from the inside, they arrested them from the outside,
17:20then why are they standing on that?
17:22If that's true, then why are they suspending their own people?
17:25If they're suspending their own people,
17:27then the IG police is lying.
17:29I mean, someone or the other is making a wrong statement here, right?
17:32Why is the speaker...
17:34I mean, he's in a state of confusion.
18:03So, now this parliament is taking its revenge from them
18:06that these people are standing now and saying again and again
18:08that the parliament is supreme.
18:10Respect the parliament.
18:12Whatever is happening with the parliament is wrong.
18:14So, this is one answer to what is happening.
18:16Secondly, what you said about the speaker...
18:18So, look, the speaker is a political man.
18:21He is a speaker, but he is also a politician.
18:23He has to do politics in the future as well.
18:25If he doesn't bring such statements on record,
18:28then how will he do politics in the future?
18:30That's why he makes such statements.
18:32Yes.
18:33Absolutely right.
18:34Viewers, let's move on to the next story.
18:36Today, the case of Bani PTI being a military trial
18:40was settled in the Salamat High Court.
18:45There, Justice Gulhasan Aurangzeb heard the case
18:49and said that Bani PTI has been threatened
18:52with a military trial.
18:54Justice Gulhasan Aurangzeb.
18:56Bani PTI is a civilian.
18:58Bani PTI has been threatened with a military trial.
19:01He said that if this is the case,
19:05then the federation should come to a clear decision.
19:10This is what the court has said.
19:12Today, we will say that there is nothing yet.
19:15Tomorrow, you will bring a military trial order.
19:18This is also what the court has said.
19:20With the guidance of the loyal government,
19:22the Supreme Court should inform the Supreme Court
19:25Justice Gulhasan Aurangzeb.
19:27The Supreme Court's decision on the civilian trial
19:30is present in the courts.
19:32This is also what Justice Gulhasan said.
19:34Yesterday, Bani PTI's military trial case
19:37is under consideration.
19:39Is Bani PTI's military trial case under consideration?
19:42He asked this question.
19:44After that, if something like this is under consideration,
19:48then we will listen to this case and decide.
19:51This is what he said.
19:52The hearing of the court case
19:54has been postponed till 16th September.
19:57Do you have any information about this?
20:00The next week is very important.
20:03You can see the last four months.
20:08Keep the last four months aside
20:12and keep the next week aside.
20:14This is as important.
20:15These things that are hanging in the middle,
20:18neither left nor right,
20:20these things have to be decided in the next week.
20:23I hope for the best.
20:26I pray that what is in Pakistan's interest,
20:29what is in Pakistan's interest,
20:31and what Haider Naqvi was saying a month ago,
20:34that who started the Parliament's recklessness,
20:37he did not take the name,
20:38I will take the name,
20:39Mr. Imran Khan took the name.
20:40He first resigned from the Parliament in 2014
20:42and came out.
20:43Then he really sent a curse on the Parliament.
20:45And today again,
20:47the Parliament's sanctity has come to this Jamaat.
20:50So, what a person has done,
20:52it comes back to him again.
20:54I wish,
20:55and my prayer is that
20:56may Allah keep this Parliament's recklessness in mind.
21:00Don't say that
21:01I am sending a curse on this Parliament again.
21:04This method is not appropriate.
21:05The Parliament is the supreme institution.
21:07The sanctity of the Parliament should be taken care of
21:09by all the Arakeen,
21:10by all the politicians.
21:11Okay, Mr. Naqvi,
21:13what information do you have?
21:15Because there have been many cases in Pakistan.
21:18The Ghatla case,
21:19the Hyderabad conspiracy case,
21:21Mr. Nawaz Sharif's trial,
21:23which was conducted by Mr. Alam Sharif.
21:25There have been many cases.
21:26All the trials were conducted by civilian courts.
21:29Do you think that Bani PTI will have a military trial
21:32or a civilian trial?
21:34Do you have any information about this?
21:36Look, if you look at the politics of Pakistan
21:38for the past 15-20 years,
21:39it is a musical chair game
21:41of parties,
21:42of political parties.
21:44And a political party,
21:45which is in the upper echelon today,
21:47after a while,
21:48that same political party is in power
21:50and then the people who bring them to power,
21:52they are doing the same with them.
21:54We have seen this in the past,
21:55we have seen it with the previous government,
21:56we are still seeing it.
21:57And this will continue to happen in the future.
21:59As far as the case of military trials and courts are concerned,
22:02before this,
22:03have there been fewer major cases in the courts?
22:05Before this,
22:06have there been fewer major accusations
22:07or such cases have been made
22:09against political leaders?
22:10So this is a musical chair,
22:11it will continue to run.
22:12And it is very important for the Pakistani people to know.
22:15The people who are trying to go so far in this chaos,
22:18they should know that this is a musical chair.
22:20These 20, 25, 30, 40 people
22:22are making you go around this musical chair.
22:25So you should know that
22:26those who are in power today,
22:27they will be in power tomorrow.
22:28Those who are in power today,
22:29they will be in power tomorrow.
22:30And this has to happen.
22:31This is written on the wall of the politics of Pakistan.
22:33Yes.
22:34Thank you very much.
22:35Let's go to the break now.
22:36After the break,
22:37we have issues
22:38regarding the extension of the Chief Justice.
22:41Especially today,
22:42Maulana Fazal Rehman Sahib
22:43has given a speech in the floor of the House.
22:45It is very important.
22:46We will talk about it after the break.
22:48Welcome back.
22:49Viewers,
22:50this musical chair
22:51that Naqvi Sahib was talking about,
22:53has been going on for a long time.
22:55There was a lot of debate
22:57whether Maulana Fazal Rehman Sahib
22:59will support the government
23:01or will he make a deal?
23:03And some people thought
23:05and a lot of discussion started.
23:07Especially Barrister Saif,
23:08the spokesperson of the KP government,
23:10he thought that
23:11if Maulana is bargaining with us,
23:13then it is possible
23:15that his demands will be fulfilled.
23:17If his plate is full,
23:19then he will agree.
23:20Listen to what he said.
23:21It is possible that due to the conversation with us,
23:23Maulana's political bargaining strength increases,
23:27he gets leverage,
23:29he can take advantage of it and make his deal.
23:31He has to make a deal.
23:32I think if not today,
23:33then it will happen tomorrow.
23:34All things will come in front of you.
23:35There are seats in the Senate.
23:36There are seats in the government of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa.
23:38There are seats in the government of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa.
23:39There are seats in the Senate.
23:40There are seats in the position of the Deputy Chairman.
23:42Maybe his plate will be full.
23:44He will keep arguing for a long time.
23:49But today Maulana Fazal Rehman Sahib
23:51proved wrongly
23:52the spokesperson of the KP government,
23:54Barrister Saif.
23:55And Babang-e-Dohal, he said
23:57that in Kamwat,
23:59we will not be a part of the government's plan
24:02to increase the age.
24:05We are in opposition
24:06and we will remain in opposition.
24:09I would like to express that
24:11our position is clear in this regard.
24:14We are in opposition.
24:16We will play the role of opposition on this.
24:18We will never put the foundation of a wrong tradition in this country.
24:22Mr. Speaker,
24:23we have gone through these stages.
24:25It was the time of General Musharraf.
24:27We were in opposition.
24:29Through LFO,
24:30he made the judge of the Supreme Court
24:3368 years old.
24:35And we fought
24:37and brought his age to 65.
24:39With great difficulty,
24:40in an army government,
24:42the decision of the army was reduced
24:44as far as we could.
24:46My personal opinion was that
24:48he should be kept for 62 years.
24:50But anyway,
24:51in the collective opinion of friends,
24:5365 years have passed.
24:54On the decision of that 65 years,
24:56our brothers,
24:57our respected people,
24:58Pakistan People's Party,
24:59were sitting here with us in opposition.
25:01They were sitting here in opposition.
25:03They criticized me.
25:05They criticized MMA.
25:06Why did you give them 65 years?
25:08Today,
25:09in addition to their age,
25:11you will sit there and support them.
25:13How will you do it?
25:14Why will you do it, my brother?
25:15Principles are principles.
25:17We should follow some principles.
25:21We should follow some principles.
25:23Along with this,
25:24Maulana Sahib also told us a way
25:26to reform.
25:27And,
25:28he also presented a formula
25:30regarding Chief Justice K. Renati.
25:33Okay.
25:34There is a criteria
25:36that decisions should be made
25:38on the basis of seniority.
25:39But, even seniority is not enough.
25:41Let's see his record.
25:42What is his qualification?
25:44Let's see his fitness.
25:46After seeing all these things,
25:48he should go towards reformation.
25:50And for this,
25:51I think,
25:52and I will suggest,
25:54that for Chief Justice,
25:56there should be a joint meeting
25:58of the Judicial Council
26:00and the Parliamentary Committee.
26:02And,
26:03we should decide
26:04who should be judged.
26:06Should he be brought on foot,
26:07three or five feet?
26:08But, he should go towards reformation.
26:12Chaudhry Ghulam Jain Sahib,
26:13do you still have doubts?
26:15Because,
26:16some people,
26:17you know,
26:18the news has been published today,
26:19the two-thirds majority has been fulfilled,
26:20the number game has been completed,
26:22and Maulana Sahib has made an agreement.
26:24And, I don't know,
26:25he has said it very clearly,
26:27that if the government is thinking,
26:29then we will not be a part of it.
26:31Do you think that
26:32Chief Justice will give them an extension
26:34or increase their age limit?
26:36Chaudhry Sahib.
26:39No,
26:40the government is involved in this.
26:42And,
26:43they think that
26:44our survival is in this.
26:46Because,
26:47their incidents,
26:48from the past few years,
26:50they have not been able to
26:52provide them with any kind of
26:54relief or support.
26:56They are completely convinced
26:58that we do not have that.
27:00They want to run their work
27:02by begging and begging.
27:04It will not work,
27:06even if they do.
27:08You asked the next day also,
27:10I said,
27:11whoever does this,
27:13this will not work.
27:16Naqvi Sahib,
27:17do you think that
27:18Maulana Sahib,
27:19I mean,
27:20even after his statement today,
27:22will the government use this method?
27:24Because,
27:25we do not understand the number game.
27:27What else can happen?
27:28If Maulana Sahib had joined,
27:30maybe something could have been done,
27:32especially in the Senate.
27:34So,
27:35yes.
27:36See,
27:37Maulana Sahib answered in his speech
27:39that we were in opposition
27:40during Parvez Musharraf's time.
27:42So,
27:43the kind of opposition
27:44Maulana Sahib was in during Parvez Musharraf's time,
27:46the whole of Pakistan saw that.
27:49So,
27:50the whole of Pakistan saw that.
27:51So,
27:52the answer is this.
27:53The second thing is that
27:54lies are being spoken openly
27:55from both sides.
27:56When the government's benches
27:57are saying that
27:58we have completed the numbers,
27:59or we are doing double majority,
28:01this is also a lie.
28:03On the other hand,
28:04the opposition is saying
28:05that we are being offered
28:0620 crore rupees.
28:08Our mothers and sisters
28:09are being threatened
28:10to be kidnapped.
28:11This is also a lie.
28:12Lies are being spoken
28:13from both sides.
28:14There will not be
28:15any amendment like this.
28:16It will not come.
28:17Remember this.
28:18All of these people
28:19are more capable than me.
28:20They are more connected.
28:21They are more well informed.
28:22But,
28:23based on my intuition,
28:24I am telling you
28:25that
28:26there will not be
28:27any amendment like this.
28:28Yes.
28:29Viewers,
28:30Justice Ishaq Usmani
28:31Sahib
28:32does well-reputed,
28:33trusted
28:34commentary
28:35on legal issues.
28:36He has also commented
28:37on judges'
28:38age of retirement.
28:39Listen.
28:41What they are doing,
28:43if they are making
28:44an amendment,
28:45and
28:46increasing
28:47the age limit
28:48of judges'
28:49retirement,
28:50then this is
28:51something
28:52that
28:53the bar
28:54will never like.
28:55All the bars
28:56in Pakistan.
28:57Because,
28:58in our bars,
28:59the concept is
29:00that
29:01when judges
29:02reach the age
29:03of 65,
29:04it is time
29:05for them
29:06to leave.
29:07Because,
29:08if they stay
29:09for too long,
29:10then there are
29:11problems.
29:12You know
29:13that
29:14the work
29:15of judges
29:16after the age
29:17of 65,
29:18and
29:19the mental
29:20effort
29:21that is
29:22required,
29:23that is
29:24difficult.
29:25So,
29:26I think
29:27this is
29:28the right
29:29age,
29:3065 years.
29:31If they
29:32increase
29:33it,
29:34then
29:35there
29:36will be
29:37problems.
29:38What
29:39news
29:40do you
29:41have?
29:42First,
29:43I would
29:44like
29:45to
29:46talk
29:47about
29:48Mulana
29:49Fazl
29:50Rehman.
29:51He
29:52is a
29:53politician
29:54and
29:55I don't
29:56think
29:57that
29:58he has
29:59become
30:00an MLA
30:01yet.
30:02So,
30:03what
30:04will
30:05he
30:06say
30:07about
30:08him?
30:09Secondly,
30:10the
30:11government
30:12is
30:13saying
30:14that
30:15Mulana
30:16Fazl
30:17Rehman
30:18should
30:19not
30:20be
30:21an MLA.
30:22I
30:23love
30:24Mulana
30:25Fazl
30:26Rehman
30:27as I
30:28told you
30:29before.
30:30Secondly,
30:31the
30:32extension
30:33is
30:34out of
30:35the
30:36question.
30:37Yes,
30:38we are
30:39talking
30:40about
30:41increasing
30:42the
30:43number
30:44of
30:45MLAs.
30:46We
30:47don't
30:48know
30:49if
30:50it
30:51has
30:52been
30:53completed
30:54or not.
30:55But
30:56next
30:57week,
30:58Jumma
30:59will
31:00have
31:01a
31:02constitutional
31:03package
31:04issue
31:05and
31:06all
31:07this
31:08will
31:09be
31:10sorted
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37:56Look, Mr. Imran Khan has the talent to install such characters.
38:01Earlier, a character was installed in Punjab, but he didn't speak at all.
38:05People used to tell him to speak, but he couldn't speak at all.
38:08Now, when this character has been installed in KP, he doesn't stop.
38:11People say, brother, be quiet for a while, but he doesn't stop speaking.
38:14This is such a character.
38:15The thing is that you talk, you will talk to Afghanistan yourself.
38:18And nowadays, in the last segment, you were narrating the love of Maulana Fazl-ur-Rehman and PTI.
38:23I want to ask them, is Maulana Fazl-ur-Rehman on board with you?
38:26Is he your opposition partner? Is he on board with you?
38:29One thing.
38:30The second thing is, is this the problem of KPK that you mentioned in your speech?
38:34Or is the problem of KPK that you are standing there as a ruler?
38:40Do you know that a loan of Rs. 101.72 billion has been added to KP in the last six months?
38:46And in the next six years, it will go up to Rs. 2500.
38:51Your schools, colleges, universities are closed.
38:54You have started paying attention to 25 universities up to 12.
38:57For that, you have removed the summary.
38:59You don't have more than Rs. 30,000.
39:01You listen to the whole thing.
39:02The answer to this is that you don't have more than Rs. 30,000 teachers.
39:06More than 550 schools are closed.
39:08But what are you giving to the people of KPK by saying these things?
39:12Tell this to the people of KPK.
39:13Your opinion has come forward.
39:14So let's move on to the next story.
39:17The social issue that we have implemented in the program today is that 80% of the children in Pakistan are suffering from malnutrition.
39:25This is a report from the UNICEF, a subsidiary of the United Nations.
39:31And 8 out of 10 children do not use balanced diet.
39:37Because of this, they have stunting growth.
39:39And in this regard, it is very important to say that 50% of children aged 5 years are suffering from vitamin A deficiency.
39:4640% are suffering from vitamin D deficiency and 62% are suffering from zinc deficiency.
39:52Only 38% of children are given breast milk during the first 6 months.
39:56Ladies and gentlemen, this is a very positive fact.
40:00In Pakistan, you know that our population growth is the highest in the world.
40:06We stand at around 3.
40:08Let's go on that.
40:09The government is working.
40:10But there is a great need for investment in children.
40:13The Punjab government has recently taken a very good initiative.
40:16The Sindh government is also working.
40:18We are now seeing that the government of Balochistan is also working on children, school education, KP.
40:26I mean, it is very important everywhere that our provincial governments, along with politics,
40:32give more focus to their children in government schools.
40:39Like nutrition, milk is being given in Punjab.
40:42There are other provinces as well.
40:44Follow it.
40:45So I think this is a very good initiative and it should be followed.
40:49Milk feeding?
40:50Continuously.
40:51Apart from milk feeding, those who need supplements should be given supplements.
40:56Complete food should be given.
40:58It is very unfortunate that our politicians have become dominant.
41:01They are not coming out of their own.
41:04Like these children, these are the children of this nation.
41:06They should be our priority as a nation.
41:09That this is our future.
41:11And we need their health.
41:16So whether it is the provincial government or the federal government,
41:19it is the collective responsibility of everyone.
41:21And the elected officials should also play their part in this.
41:23Absolutely right.
41:24Viewers, that's all for today.
41:25But as you saw and heard, Mr. Nagveer is saying that the situation is very bad.
41:30And it seems that in the coming days, all the political parties will be facing the same challenge.
41:38Hassan is saying that next week is very important.
41:41Mr. Chaudhary Ghulam Sain is saying from day one that eventually you have to return to the people's voice.
41:48You know his opinion.
41:49He always expresses it.
41:51Inshallah, we will meet again tomorrow.
41:53Allah Hafiz.