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Rachel Griffiths est Madam - Originals
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18/06/2024
Présentée en avant-première mondiale au festival de télévision de Monte-Carlo, le premier épisode de Madam, nouvelle dramédie néo-zélandaise menée par Rachel Griffiths.
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ORIGINALS
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BETASERIES, Media Partner of the Montecarlo TV Festival 2024
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BETASERIES, Media Partner of the Montecarlo TV Festival 2024
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We are at the 63rd Montecarlo TV Festival,
00:18
of which BETASERIES is a partner,
00:20
and we welcome today Rachel Griffiths,
00:22
the heroine of MADAME, in competition this year.
00:25
Hello Rachel.
00:26
Hello.
00:27
So, how did the project of MADAME come to you,
00:30
and have you read the book, the memoirs,
00:33
before you accepted this project?
00:36
It came the usual way, via agents,
00:40
but it did kind of come with a tag, you know,
00:43
it came with the tag,
00:45
we really think you'd be great for this.
00:48
So, they don't always say that,
00:50
when they say, they're like, oh, there's this offer,
00:52
but my agents unanimously were like,
00:55
we love this for you.
00:59
So, then I read the underlying material,
01:01
and I did think that it, you know,
01:04
every narrative is just a coat hanger
01:06
to hang interesting other themes,
01:08
ideas, and conversations around,
01:11
and I thought that, you know,
01:12
the story engine of it definitely had opportunities
01:16
to explore some really great territory,
01:18
both funny and serious,
01:20
around women's lives, around sex work,
01:23
and then, of course, I met the team,
01:25
and just fell in love.
01:27
So, in the end, at my age,
01:30
you don't want to leave your family,
01:32
and go overseas and make a show with a bunch of assholes,
01:36
and I didn't,
01:36
because they were just one of the most beautiful,
01:40
it was one of the most satisfying collaborations,
01:43
I think I've ever had.
01:44
Tell us a little bit about your character,
01:47
Mac, her situation,
01:48
when we start the show,
01:49
and how it will go.
01:51
Mac's that kind of woman in pre-menopausal rage,
01:54
where she's just kind of had enough
01:56
of carrying the whole load,
01:58
you know, the mental load we talk about with women,
02:01
the figuring out the school,
02:02
where do we live?
02:03
How do we do this?
02:04
Are we going to have a holiday?
02:05
You know, just everything for the,
02:08
finding the matching socks,
02:09
and she's just so tired,
02:13
and I think when she,
02:14
and I think she's kind of lost herself a little bit,
02:17
like many women do,
02:18
who have been putting most of their energies
02:21
into raising a family,
02:23
and making sure they're secure.
02:27
She just has kind of lost the young girl,
02:29
that, you know, had bigger dreams,
02:31
and thought she was going to,
02:33
you know, achieve more in her life.
02:35
So this idea for a brothel,
02:40
and, you know, she's a California girl,
02:41
so she's a little woke,
02:43
a little, you know, crunchy,
02:45
a little crunchy muesli.
02:48
She really is,
02:49
it's so important to her that this is successful,
02:51
because it's going to make her feel like
02:55
she is someone again,
02:57
and also economically means that,
03:03
you know, she gets a payoff for the hours,
03:06
not doing minimum wage in some supermarket, you know.
03:10
So of course, when I realized the whole idea of the show,
03:14
I Google searched if it was true,
03:16
that, you know, sex work was legal.
03:20
And decriminalized.
03:21
Yes, and it is since 2003,
03:24
so that's quite surprising.
03:27
But the same with the bank, you know,
03:28
when you ask for a credit,
03:29
and the bank is quite reluctant.
03:33
So I guess it's true that it's not illegal.
03:36
However, the, you know, the bias,
03:39
the discrimination still exists.
03:43
Look, it's inspired by true events.
03:46
Not everything in the show is real,
03:48
and we really have taken liberties with quite a few characters
03:52
that didn't exist in Antonia's life.
03:54
The girls who are working in the brothel
03:56
are not based on girls that worked with Antonia.
04:01
It's really the fish out of water kind of logline of the story.
04:05
An American woman realizes that her child
04:07
has profound disabilities,
04:09
and returns with her husband to rural New Zealand,
04:13
and discovers that sex work is legal.
04:15
So she sets up a woke feminist brothel.
04:18
Kind of everything beyond that is not really true.
04:21
But to answer your question on discrimination,
04:24
you know, New Zealand had the first country in the world
04:27
to give women the vote.
04:29
The first female prime minister in Western democracy.
04:31
In fact, I think they've had three.
04:33
We had one in Australia,
04:35
and America's yet to have a madam president.
04:38
So women have been respected
04:42
at the kind of heart of New Zealand's economic engine
04:48
from the ground zero.
04:50
It wasn't a penal colony.
04:52
So there weren't impoverished Irish women
04:55
put on ships and sent there.
04:57
And Australia still has a little legacy of, you know,
05:01
damned whores and God's police,
05:03
is what they called the women of the colony.
05:05
And the first 10 years,
05:06
but New Zealand was settled by free settlers.
05:10
The Maori women are so strong
05:12
within their own communities and cultures
05:16
that I just think that country has,
05:18
you know, been decades ahead
05:21
of many other Western democracies for respect for women.
05:26
And I think at the heart of that,
05:29
of legalizing sex work is
05:34
these women are making very often thought through decisions
05:40
that this is the best way for them to provide
05:44
for their dependence.
05:46
Little time for more money,
05:48
for greater control of your hours,
05:50
flexibility, work from home, whatever it is.
05:54
And I think the New Zealand attitude
05:56
is like you're supporting your kids.
05:59
Go you, go you single mom.
06:01
Why would I like judge you
06:04
for actually doing the thing we all say
06:06
that women, you know, should do?
06:09
So, yeah.
06:10
You've mentioned one of her sons before.
06:13
And I was wondering,
06:15
was Toby written as autistic since the beginning?
06:18
He's not autistic.
06:19
Oh, pardon.
06:20
No.
06:21
No, he has cerebral palsy.
06:24
He's incredibly intelligent.
06:26
His brain is, you know, probably smarter than mine.
06:30
But with his cerebral palsy,
06:33
he, you know, it's harder to communicate.
06:37
What his, yeah, what he's thinking and feeling.
06:39
But her son was, did have a disability
06:44
and sadly passed away.
06:46
But we made the decision in our show
06:49
that it would be so groundbreaking
06:51
for representation to have an actor
06:55
with that kind of challenges
06:57
to communicate their heart and mind,
07:00
you know, for the camera
07:01
that to then make him die
07:04
would be just kind of actually a little,
07:09
almost old-fashioned in the storytelling
07:11
or using his disability to manipulate the audience,
07:15
which is not what we were trying to do.
07:18
But I think everyone on the show,
07:20
Australia and New Zealand particularly,
07:22
we're so strong on inclusion.
07:24
We think our screen should look like the streets.
07:26
So if your streets have, you know, disability,
07:30
one in four Australians has a disability,
07:33
but probably one in 300 characters has a disability.
07:38
So just as, you know,
07:39
we've got a very Southeast Asian population in Australia,
07:42
our screens need to reflect that.
07:44
Otherwise, you know,
07:46
and our younger and new Australians put on the screen,
07:49
all they see is like white people.
07:51
Like, but this is not the Australia I see.
07:54
So whether it's First Nations or women's roles
08:00
and including people of all abilities.
08:02
And the other thing is that the characters are so compelling.
08:07
So we've just got a new show in Australia called Austin
08:10
and he is autistic and he actually is autistic.
08:12
Okay.
08:13
And you no longer get, you know,
08:15
your Oscar winning actor to play that.
08:17
You find the person who can really authentically do it.
08:23
And this guy, it's his first role
08:26
and he's just so funny.
08:29
He's so compelling.
08:31
His delivery is so like unique.
08:34
And I think that's what the world is waking up to,
08:37
that to watch people of all abilities on screen
08:40
is just makes our stories better.
08:42
And to follow up on that,
08:43
the representation,
08:45
because you're credited as producer on the show as well.
08:48
Exactly.
08:50
I did not do a lot of heavy lifting.
08:52
Okay.
08:52
But were you part of the casting process for the women?
08:57
No, no.
08:59
I was only really part of the casting process for my son.
09:05
And we met with a few different actors
09:08
and we met with a younger actor
09:11
and he was really, really wonderful
09:14
and incredibly handsome and good looking.
09:17
And he communicates through a board.
09:20
He's got a little role in it actually.
09:22
And then we just kind of made the decision that
09:25
to have an 18-year-old who has a disability
09:29
and they age out of one system
09:31
and they're on the brink of what is,
09:33
where do you go once your 18-year-old
09:36
is no longer able to fit into that system
09:39
was just a really great way to put pressure on my character
09:42
because she's facing a less certain future.
09:45
And just to wrap this up,
09:47
it would be a crime not to mention your previous roles,
09:50
the ones probably we know you best for,
09:53
Brothers and Sisters and Six Feet Under, of course.
09:56
And there have been lots of talks about reboots and revivals.
10:01
Is it something that you've put in the past
10:03
or would you be in crime?
10:06
I think Six Feet Under is probably dead.
10:09
And I think Alan would probably want to do that.
10:13
I was hearing things,
10:14
but I do know that if Alan did that again,
10:17
it would probably be not following the White family.
10:20
He was so groundbreaking on diversity, inclusion,
10:24
gay representation, queer storytelling.
10:27
It just was like nothing that had come before.
10:31
And it was so perfect
10:32
and it has the best ending in television history.
10:35
So maybe it's a generational,
10:37
does he break out the world and it's the young mom and dad.
10:42
I have been trying to get Brothers and Sisters
10:45
Christmas special, Homecoming,
10:47
trying to get Brothers and Sisters Christmas special,
10:50
Home for the Holidays.
10:51
I think it would be huge and get the cast back
10:54
for a single like double episode.
10:58
I think it would be massive
11:01
and I would love to see all those actors again.
11:03
So we're going to push that, push that for me.
11:06
Thank you very much and good luck with Madame.
11:08
Thank you.
11:17
Beta Série, Media Partner of the Montecarlo Television Festival 2024.
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