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00:00 Is it a big no to PPP-PMLN or can you show some hesitation from Mr. Khan?
00:06 Because you're the first one standing in PTI who's talking about this right now.
00:09 Mr. Khan gave a statement after Eid, and even before the arrest he said that he's ready to talk to everyone.
00:15 It depends on what the government has on the negotiating table.
00:19 If they just want to legitimise themselves and want us to accept them as a government and not talk about the Dandli,
00:26 then the negotiations are useless.
00:27 But there's another point, which is very fundamental.
00:31 If the negotiations don't happen with the political forces of the political forces,
00:36 then the establishment of the political party cannot negotiate, nor can they allow it.
00:42 Then the chapter of negotiations is closed.
00:44 If the chapter of negotiations is closed, then there will be instability in politics.
00:49 We will keep our own will.
00:50 This is also your stance different from your party.
00:54 Even if I don't quote Sharia Rafidi, yesterday Ali Ameen Gandapur said that he will be the first one to talk in the next meeting.
01:01 He said that he has been given a mandate, he will look at the scope and will decide on the scope.
01:06 So your party is very clear about negotiating with the establishment.
01:11 I would like to say that there are no negotiations with the establishment.
01:17 If there is any confusion, then our minister or our opposition leader or anyone can talk about it.
01:24 You can remove the confusion.
01:26 If there is any miscommunication, you can remove it.
01:29 We have talked about it in the past.
01:31 Mr. Shabaz Sharif has also been in touch.
01:33 But the regular negotiations, in which two teams sit, in which the media comes, in which the press talk happens,
01:39 you cannot do that with the establishment.
01:41 It happens with the political parties of the political parties.
01:43 Either negotiations will happen or not.
01:45 If there will be, then it will be within the parameters of the constitution.
01:48 As far as the role of the establishment is concerned, we all know that this government has so much power.
01:53 It cannot appoint its own minister of interest, it cannot appoint its own minister of treasury.
01:57 But the constitution is there, the constitution is not temporary.
01:59 So in some way, you can ask the parliamentary parameters, you can start a debate.
02:06 Sir, I have seen the best hope from your words.
02:09 For the first time, with so much clarity, in the parliamentary system,
02:13 someone is talking about clearing the way forward, about moving forward.
02:18 It is music to my ears.
02:20 Honestly, as a democrat, all of us are democrats here, all of us believe in this system here.
02:25 But your needle has always been crooked.
02:27 You talk about civilian supremacy, but you want to give power and respect to someone else.
02:31 We have always seen in this country that when the talks are held with powerful people,
02:37 they are always like, remove them and give us our shoulders to stand on.
02:41 Anyway, moving forward, you have talked about making the Supreme Court a coercive one.
02:45 Supreme Court headed by Qazi Faiz Isa Sahib?
02:48 Look, a coercive one is one who is a jirga.
02:53 The Supreme Court's job is not to jirga, its job is to make decisions.
02:58 That is why I said this in the Supreme Court yesterday in my press talk.
03:03 I also said this in the Court Committee yesterday.
03:05 And Barrister Gauhar Sahib also confirmed this.
03:09 And I think, and he has confirmed this in the Court Committee that the party will do this, and has already done this.
03:18 That the petition for 184.3 is in the Supreme Court, and we are present.
03:22 We appeal to Qazi Sahib, I also appeal to him as a lawyer, as a political activist,
03:29 that the country is in a very big test.
03:31 Chief Justice Sahib held a historic meeting in the evening, before the election, at night.
03:37 And in one sitting he said that there is a line on the stone, that the election will be on 8th February.
03:41 If someone has said anything about not having an election, then he has said that you can do it at home with your family,
03:47 you don't do it on the media. The election will be on 8th February.
03:50 I have kept this point that was it important to have an election or to be transparent is also a constitutional responsibility.
03:56 If being transparent is a constitutional responsibility, then I think that this election was everything, but it was not transparent.
04:03 That is why the Supreme Court should take a sumoto notice on this, and the petition that we have submitted should be applied to it.
04:09 So that if a sumoto is taken on four rings in 2014, and a judicial inquiry commission is held, and a decision is made against us, and we agree,
04:16 then today it is not four, but 250 rings.
04:19 I think that Chief Justice Sahib should take a sumoto on this as well.
04:23 I think that this is the most important sumoto that you should hold a judicial inquiry commission on this election that has been stolen, because there are two points.
04:30 But sir, the conspiracy of the Supreme Court…
04:33 The government can play its own role in this.
04:37 It can play a role in this.
04:39 They can take back the wrong cases, or there can be a case on that, or Mr. Khan can be released.
04:42 But can you or I in our fair mind understand that those who have come from Form 47,
04:48 those who have been robbed, or those who are its beneficiaries,
04:53 they will say with their own hands that Form 47 is wrong, give them the government.
04:56 This decision has to be taken by the Supreme Court.
04:58 No other arbiter has to do this.
05:00 General Raheel's formula was also wrong.
05:02 When Mr. Mian told General Raheel to sit in the middle and arbitrate,
05:05 why would the Army Chief sit in the middle of two political forces?
05:08 And sir, you also…
05:10 Mr. Mian also proposed the Salicy to Chief Awami Staff,
05:13 you are saying that Chief Justice Pakistan should be under his supervision,
05:17 and Suhamoto should be there, but he should play a role somewhere,
05:20 in whose case…
05:22 Look, Qazi is the Chief Justice, but we should talk about the Supreme Court.
05:26 Suhamoto is from the Supreme Court,
05:28 because if the Supreme Court cannot play a role in this,
05:32 then you tell me who has to do it.
05:34 If you have to do it by appointing non-political forces,
05:38 then this is the vehicle of the country's democracy,
05:40 and it is going in a circular pattern that political forces cannot make their own decisions,
05:45 nor can the Supreme Court make a decision.
05:47 Then why have we set up this shop of democracy?
05:50 Then we should close it, or run it according to the constitution.
05:53 We should make decisions according to the constitution.
05:55 The one who committed the crime, our mandate was stolen.
05:57 178 seats are ours, 17 of Mr. Mian's, 17 people were made to sit.
06:00 I consider this to be the Supreme Court's responsibility,
06:02 as a lawyer, I demand that their responsibility is to protect the constitution.
06:06 Look, there is a robbery on the constitution, who has to protect it?