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Mustafa Nawaz Khokhar Big Statement | Kashif Abbasi | Breaking News
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2/29/2024
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Mustafa Nawaz Khokhar Big Statement | Kashif Abbasi | Breaking News
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Listen to me, London's people knew what was happening, they went to see off the High Commissioner of Pakistan,
00:09
he came here and he knew that I had to go to Lahore, I had arranged for the Jalsa, my case was over.
00:14
Everyone knew, it was a separate incident, what are you saying that they will do anything?
00:18
No, no, no.
00:19
They made the deal.
00:20
If they had made the deal, it would have had a negative effect, this is my opinion.
00:26
It would have had a worse negative effect. Because of your deals, your party was over.
00:31
The party came to 18-20 seats, let's do 30-40 seats.
00:35
What could have been a worse negative effect than this?
00:37
Are you talking about Form 45 or 47?
00:40
A little bit of 45 and a little bit of 47.
00:43
Do you realise, yesterday someone told me that Maryam Nawaz has become the CM of this party,
00:49
what else will you do to make her rise? I said the party is sitting, first we have to see how to make her rise from there.
00:54
Is that not true?
00:55
I think we should examine what happened in the election.
01:03
There is a need for a serious introspection, to all the parties.
01:08
This election was a very extraordinary election, believe me.
01:16
It was more extraordinary than necessary.
01:19
No, no, forget about the extraordinary part, the people who voted for us,
01:23
they voted for a very extraordinary election.
01:25
For any country, for our country, it was very extraordinary.
01:28
This is the first time I have seen people defeat the system in the history of Pakistan.
01:32
Let's be honest, people won.
01:35
In the last election, the people gave 50-55 seats to Mian Saab in the centre of Punjab.
01:40
But that was not a winning. People have won.
01:43
If you were there, what would you have done?
01:45
Instead of People's Party, instead of Bilawal Saab, there is a rift between Zardari Saab and Bilawal Saab.
01:51
They wanted to go to a new government.
01:53
They have also been forced in, by Zardari Saab.
01:58
What would you have done?
02:00
Look, in the politics of People's Party, Zardari Saab has turned to power politics.
02:08
And Bilawal Saab thinks, in my opinion, that in Punjab and Khyber Pakhtunkhwa,
02:15
he will not be able to take space in other parts of Pakistan until he does not do politics
02:22
in which there is a strong imprint of his martyr mother.
02:27
So this is basically a rift in People's Party.
02:31
And in that, the prevailing...
02:33
The fight of the viewers.
02:34
You can't say fight, perhaps fight is a stronger word.
02:38
But in that, there is a difference.
02:40
Yes, there is a difference.
02:41
The way of doing it.
02:42
The prevailing view is that of Zardari Saab.
02:45
And the way politics is going on in the country,
02:50
if we look at it in that context, then power politics is going on.
02:55
If you are not plugged in to power politics, then your mandate is denied.
03:03
So in that sense, politics is perhaps right.
03:06
But the big politics that has to get 25 crore people out of this crisis,
03:12
in which we are stuck, we have to end our contradictions,
03:16
then this politics cannot solve those contradictions.
03:20
When you accept that system, then you are not able to fix it.
03:27
So this is basically a flaw.
03:30
And I am surprised that we had two wars in our neighborhood.
03:38
Pakistan was a part of those wars.
03:41
And they also had an impact on our thinking,
03:44
which completely transformed us into a security state.
03:48
Today, this is happening with the journalist Asad Toor.
03:51
Twitter is shut down.
03:53
I want to run this program in the last part.
03:56
Asad Toor is in custody.
04:00
Imran Riaz Khan is also in custody.
04:04
Yesterday I spoke to Arif Bhatti Saab.
04:06
Arif Bhatti Saab is not able to come on the TV screen.
04:09
He cannot come because he has been off-aired.
04:11
So this is also a problem in this issue.
04:15
But this is because we are still not able to understand
04:20
that as a security state, Pakistan cannot continue.
04:24
Its functioning is directly coming into a clash
04:28
with the evolution of our society.
04:33
It is a very basic thing.
04:35
The intellectuals say that you gain awareness first.
04:41
And by gaining awareness, you increase your consciousness.
04:44
And then after the third stage of increasing consciousness,
04:47
you ask for your rights.
04:49
So the change that has come into our society,
04:54
we are still refusing to accept that change.
04:57
This is the new age.
04:59
And I think this is the problem probably
05:02
that the system is not working with the new age.
05:05
If I may say the last point,
05:08
I think that in these elections,
05:11
another thing that has come out is the failure of the mainstream media.
05:16
I am talking about the entire mainstream media
05:19
on which you could not show the campaign of a particular community,
05:23
you could not show their targets,
05:26
you could not show their candidates.
05:28
Despite that, you only showed the communities,
05:32
you did not show the justice movement.
05:34
So there was no justice movement in the elections.
05:36
Yes, there is still no justice movement.
05:38
There is still a Sunni Unity Council.
05:40
But there are justice movements.
05:42
Technically, it is fine.
05:43
We have shown all the big competitions here.
05:45
But what I want to say is that
05:47
when you took the people's target in this country,
05:51
someone told me an example of a circle
05:53
and I was very surprised to think about it.
05:56
One gentleman had a radio signal,
05:59
one had a harmonium signal,
06:01
both looked the same,
06:03
the difference was only in the antenna.
06:05
People clapped on the antenna.
06:07
They saw the difference.
06:08
They knew this too.
06:09
They knew this too.
06:10
This is why it was such an impossible campaign.
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