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To kya aap keh rahy hain Qamar Bajwa ka ehtisab hoga?
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9/27/2023
To kya aap keh rahy hain Qamar Bajwa ka ehtisab hoga?
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00:00
Petrol has become Rs. 331.
00:02
How much will petrol cost?
00:04
Why is petrol expensive?
00:06
Who is responsible for its price?
00:08
We saw, PTI's government came,
00:12
before coming, Imran Khan used to say that
00:14
Pakistani people are straightforward.
00:16
When petrol is expensive,
00:18
assume that Wazir Adam is a thief.
00:20
This is the only meaning of this.
00:22
He came and petrol became expensive in his time.
00:24
When petrol became expensive,
00:26
people of Noor League said,
00:28
"This man is not afraid of anything."
00:30
"He is a thief, that's why it has increased to Rs. 300."
00:32
"He has increased it to Rs. 2, Rs. 4."
00:34
So we saw that,
00:36
Imran Khan could not follow his words
00:38
and petrol became expensive.
00:40
Then the opposition of Noor League
00:42
said, "This man has increased it to Rs. 4."
00:44
"What is this man doing with Pakistan?"
00:46
He came to power.
00:48
He put aside Rs. 3, 4 and said,
00:50
"Rs. 15, Rs. 20, Rs. 21, Rs. 26, Rs. 24,
00:52
and now petrol has become Rs. 331."
00:54
So this means,
00:56
that even Imran Khan could not follow his words.
00:58
One innocent question is,
01:00
the increase of petroleum prices,
01:02
is it actually a political problem?
01:04
Or it has nothing to do with politics at all?
01:06
That this issue was created by politicians
01:08
for their political interests.
01:10
Because whoever is the leader,
01:12
when petrol becomes expensive,
01:14
he will be abused by the people.
01:16
And his political opponents will say,
01:18
"Look, he has ruined your business."
01:20
Although he also knows what is going to happen.
01:22
I remember,
01:24
when he was in the office,
01:26
he used to say, "Imran Khan has done this,
01:28
he has done that."
01:30
Then when it seemed that Imran Khan's government
01:32
was going to leave,
01:34
then he gave an interview to Naseem Zehra Sahiba.
01:36
When Naseem Zehra Sahiba asked him,
01:38
"What will you do about the petroleum prices?"
01:40
He said, "The prices will be according to the international market."
01:42
Then he did not say,
01:44
"We will make it cheaper."
01:46
Because it seemed that the government would be in power in two days.
01:48
Then he did not say.
01:50
So maybe it is not that these politicians
01:52
are making the people go around.
01:54
Actually, it has nothing to do with it.
01:56
If not, then the people should know
01:58
what is going on.
02:00
Today, we have invited three experts from this field.
02:02
Khakha Najeeb is an economist,
02:04
who keeps an eye on this issue.
02:06
Thank you very much, sir.
02:08
Asad Raza is a very important representative
02:10
of the oil marketing company.
02:12
He is the GM of a very important office.
02:14
So we will understand from him what he says.
02:16
Mozamil Aslam is an economist.
02:18
Of course, he also had an affiliation.
02:20
But what is the issue?
02:22
I would like to request all three of you
02:24
to keep this as academic as possible
02:26
and as less technical as possible.
02:28
Khakha, I am starting from you.
02:30
My first question to all three of you is the same.
02:32
Keep it as short, precise and easy as possible.
02:34
If the oil price is high in a country,
02:36
then what is the percentage of the government's
02:38
activity in that country?
02:40
Or is it a simple thing
02:42
that the government will pay a certain percentage of taxes
02:44
on the amount of oil that is available
02:46
and every government will pay the same percentage
02:48
of taxes that every government pays
02:50
and sells the oil.
02:52
Does this have any relation to the government's
02:54
activity or not?
02:56
Mr. Khakhaan.
02:58
Mr. Subedami, let's look at this in two contexts.
03:00
One is in the short run
03:02
and the other is in the long run.
03:04
In the short run,
03:06
it is happening that
03:08
since the value of one rupee
03:10
has weakened in Pakistan,
03:12
it has a very big impact.
03:14
But along with this,
03:16
the Arab Light, which matters to us,
03:18
is worth $96 per barrel.
03:20
If you go back three or four months ago,
03:22
it was worth $78 per barrel.
03:24
So you saw that
03:26
there was a 23% change in this.
03:28
And the third thing that happened
03:30
when you made an agreement
03:32
with the IMF,
03:34
which is the recent one,
03:36
two years ago it was a levy of 15 rupees,
03:38
then it became 30 rupees,
03:40
and now it is 60 rupees on petrol
03:42
and 50 rupees on high-speed diesel.
03:44
In the short run,
03:46
these are the three factors.
03:48
In the long run,
03:50
the main factor is that
03:52
Pakistan's own capacity of crude
03:54
has weakened
03:56
and we have had to depend
03:58
more on imports.
04:00
In 2022, there are 47 wells.
04:02
If you go back four years ago,
04:04
five years ago,
04:06
there were 110 wells.
04:08
So these are the factors of the long run
04:10
in which we have depended
04:12
and we have changed
04:14
our dependence on our energy
04:16
and put it on international
04:18
and this happened in the short run.
04:20
If your direct taxation
04:22
was much better in the short run,
04:24
then you could have done
04:26
that you would have negotiated
04:28
and said that we do not want to put PDL
04:30
or we want to put less PDL.
04:32
But remember that
04:34
there is 0% sales tax at the moment.
04:36
In the region,
04:38
the prices of petrol are low in Pakistan
04:40
but along with that,
04:42
it has to be said that
04:44
the purchasing power in the region
04:46
is less than that of Pakistan
04:48
compared to India or Bangladesh.
04:50
This is an overall scenario
04:52
which is present at the moment.
04:54
I understood you.
04:56
Before I move to my other guest,
04:58
if you want to quantify this,
05:00
the echo is coming.
05:02
If you want to quantify,
05:04
will you say 50-50
05:06
that buying in dollars
05:08
is better than buying in rupees?
05:10
If the dollar is strong
05:12
and your rupee is weak,
05:14
then the government's governance
05:16
factor comes in it.
05:18
You have to pay a levy
05:20
because IMF has said so.
05:22
You have to go to IMF
05:24
because you have not managed
05:26
your economy well.
05:28
The government can't do anything
05:30
in this.
05:32
So if we have to quantify
05:34
how much percentage of government
05:36
is doing this,
05:38
then it is a rough idea.
05:40
Of course, our macro fundamentals
05:42
are weak.
05:44
Our production capacity
05:46
is weak.
05:48
There is pressure on the rupee.
05:50
The inflows of the rupee are low.
05:52
There is pressure on the rupee.
05:54
When we have started trying
05:56
to fix these things,
05:58
like we did a crackdown
06:00
and took an administrative action,
06:02
then the rupee was justified.
06:04
We have not been able to fix
06:06
our fundamentals for many decades.
06:08
That is the reality.
06:10
Your production capacity
06:12
is weak everywhere.
06:14
Secondly, you have not done
06:16
drilling.
06:18
You have not done proper work
06:20
for many decades.
06:22
So that is also a thing
06:24
that is disturbing you.
06:26
Economic governance is a
06:28
traditional issue of Pakistan.
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