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00:00Call 911, where's your emergency?
00:20I need an emergency.
00:21Right now, I'm shooting at the corner store next to CVS.
00:25Okay, do you know if anyone's been hit?
00:27Get an ambulance here, now!
00:29We are.
00:30Who was hit?
00:31Some young man.
00:32There's a young man?
00:33Okay, calm down, sir.
00:35Is the person with the gun still there?
00:36You don't know.
00:37I don't know.
00:38We were in front of the store.
00:39Somebody just shot this kid three times.
00:48I'm a killer, man.
00:50He's dead.
00:50I'm alive.
00:52That all thing goes wrong.
00:53The thing inside of me is like...
00:57The appetite's like a little bitch.
00:59I'm a killer.
01:01I'm a killer.
01:03I'm a killer.
01:03I'm a killer.
01:03I was sitting right there in front of the CVS, and I saw you, and then I hear, I don't
01:31know, probably about four or five gunshots, and they peal.
01:34No interference, Tanner.
01:35Go ahead.
01:36He's found on Fairfield.
01:37Do you know anybody that drives, like, a red pickup truck?
01:53Well, my friend, Nick does.
01:56Have you ever gotten into it with your brother before?
01:58Well, I mean, I don't think they were on the best terms.
02:02Why would they not be on the best terms?
02:04The other day, I think Joe called him for a ride or something, and Nick was being real
02:07rude with him, and Joe got mad.
02:09And Nick's really, he seems like he's crazy.
02:15I went really on the best one.
02:17Have you talked to Nick any time recently?
02:20I talked to him yesterday.
02:22Talked to him yesterday?
02:24What did you talk to him about?
02:25Maybe just see what I was doing.
02:26John describes Nairing as being crazy, this drug-dealing criminal that no one wants to
02:40mess with.
02:41That is a cultivated persona, right?
02:44This is impression management, as we would talk about in psychology.
02:48This is the person that Nairing wants everybody to think that he is.
02:52Whether he is or isn't is almost inconsequential.
02:55He needs people to believe he is crazy and willing to do whatever it is that he wants
03:01to do in order to get people to comply.
03:04And ultimately, that's what Nairing wants, compliance.
03:25Who shot him?
03:30You were in a truck.
03:32Gerald.
03:33Shoot him, man.
03:34He did.
03:35I didn't.
03:36What's his name?
03:37Nick.
03:38There's a drum between him and the other guy.
03:39I don't know.
03:40What else they don't know?
03:41I had this truck overnight.
03:44He let me use this truck.
03:45And he was like, well, bring me my truck when you're done.
03:48I said, okay.
03:48So, my plan was to bring him this truck and I was going to go home.
03:54He wanted to go somewhere else before I went to the house.
03:59What did you go there for?
04:09We went there for.
04:11He said we went there for to meet that guy.
04:14Why?
04:16Say he gave him some money.
04:18Say he owed him some money.
04:19And he was like, pull it behind the building, man.
04:22When he shot that dude, I pulled it off.
04:25What did he do?
04:27What did he do?
04:28Show me what he did.
04:31So, I did his jacket off and the shots came out.
04:54Mm-hmm.
04:56What's up?
04:58Nick, right?
05:02I'm just going to get over.
05:04I'm not going to have to sleep.
05:06That's that.
05:07That's the fact.
05:09Do you have any idea what this is about?
05:14No.
05:15You have three guns on you tonight.
05:18Yeah, one person, yeah.
05:19You fired any of them tonight?
05:20No.
05:22Well, I pulled slugs out of the person.
05:25Yeah, you can ballistic them all.
05:26Psychopaths are typically very adept at controlling their body's natural reaction.
05:34They're really good at maintaining composure in times of significant stress.
05:40The fact that Naring is sleeping when all this is happening, it really gives you a sense of what his character is like.
05:46He is not experiencing the maybe more typical emotions that someone might feel when they're being taken at the police station.
05:55He's not indignant about it.
05:56Is there any reason that your truck would have been at the CVS tonight?
06:01Is there any reason that your truck would have been at the CVS tonight?
06:02No.
06:03No.
06:05That shouldn't have been.
06:14Let me...
06:14This is going to be on the side of town.
06:15What's it about, this thing of this, is that you were there because...
06:20A, your truck's on video being there.
06:22People wrote down the tag number of your truck there.
06:27Okay.
06:28Mm-hmm.
06:28Which...
06:30Can you explain that?
06:32No, the truck's done.
06:33I've been there.
06:34Wasn't in my possession.
06:35Did you?
06:35I wasn't there.
06:37Yeah, you weren't.
06:38How do you know that?
06:39Video cameras?
06:42In the beginning, the investigators, they have control and they're just asking questions.
06:48And then once they try to bluff him and pretend that they have this evidence that they may not have,
06:55Nehring realizes, oh, I need to flip this script.
06:58I need to take control over this interview.
07:01He was being very casual and kind of laid back until this point.
07:04And now you see he's getting a little more inquisitive.
07:07He's leaned up more in his seat.
07:08And he seems just a little more defensive.
07:10And he's going to try to regain control of the situation by continuing to push and to poke holes and to be argumentative.
07:18Did you see me in my view?
07:21I'm kind of distinct.
07:22I've already talked to...
07:24Gerald.
07:26He's already explained to me what happened.
07:27I want to know what all he said.
07:28That's it.
07:29I know you do.
07:30Okay?
07:31I know you do.
07:33But you're...
07:33You want to play a game that I'm not going to play with you.
07:42All right.
07:42That's on serve.
07:44He comes up.
07:45He's grabbing his pants.
07:46But when he's acting like he's pulling something out, I popped his ass.
07:55What did he do that frightened me?
07:57He just...
07:57He's always said, I'll rob your ass.
07:59He sent me messages.
08:00He said, no, no.
08:01I was like, okay.
08:02Whatever.
08:02I'm serving equipment.
08:04And he had to go squirtle me up his ass.
08:06We can see that Naring is trying to avoid responsibility essentially by justifying it.
08:17He doesn't realize, though, that he's not doing himself any favors.
08:21Because as he's having this conversation, his bravado is just shining through.
08:26And he's talking about the victim in a very callous way.
08:31None of this would generate some sympathy for him as being this poor individual that was just threatened.
08:38And that's why he had to do what he did.
08:40Give me a fair stand up for me and show me what he did that got you a thing.
08:45He's all like...
08:52Okay.
08:53Did you see anything he was reaching for?
08:56No, but his bad-ass guns...
08:59Okay.
09:00So he reaches in his pants.
09:01Was it in his pocket or down like the front of his pants?
09:04Down the front of his pants.
09:05I was like, oh, s***.
09:06Boom, boom, boom.
09:07And he fell down like boom.
09:09So you shot him again when he's on the ground?
09:11Well, he hit a cannon.
09:14There's certainly some animation that is happening.
09:18He's certainly aroused.
09:20He's certainly excited to describe this thing.
09:23And what you don't see is the story playing out the way you would typically think would happen if someone was truly afraid for their lives.
09:32What would he have to be afraid of someone who he had just shot at least once having fallen to the ground?
09:39He liked that he shot him.
09:41He enjoyed that he shot him.
09:42He enjoyed shooting him multiple times.
09:44And I think in his mind, he feels justified for having done it.
09:48When he threatened you, how long ago was that?
09:52What do you mean?
09:53He said that he's often said he was going to kill you, Brian.
09:56Oh, no, we could, but I didn't know for you.
09:57Why did he say he sent you a text message?
09:58He's going to leave my ass to buy that.
10:00They're old.
10:01I don't want to phone no more.
10:03So you deleted them?
10:04Yeah.
10:05When the detectives just ask a simple follow-up question, when were you threatened, there's an element where he says, what do you mean?
10:12Because he was never threatened.
10:14These text messages don't exist.
10:17None of this stuff actually happened.
10:19And it was just some narrative that he tried to push that once it was actually tested, he had no way of actually converting.
10:27So it's just another element of the personality he's put out there is, what lie can I tell in order to get the thing that I want the most in the moment?
10:36And he'll do and say whatever he has to in order to get that done.
11:06Shotgun, or the barrels of tamper breath, or blah, blah, blah, kind of.
11:10Why did you call John later?
11:12To see how he was doing, that was it.
11:14To see who he was doing?
11:15John was doing.
11:16I still wanted to hang out with John.
11:17I got no problem with John.
11:18You just shot his brother.
11:21So.
11:25Don't you think John would be a little bit upset about that?
11:28Yeah.
11:28You just shot his family.
11:30Yeah.
11:32So you know he's dead?
11:34I'm assuming he is.
11:35You're somebody's dead.
11:36Or you got shot in the head?
11:37I mean, if you got shot in the head from that close, you ought to be in.
11:40I think Nering thought his brother would be able to very easily compartmentalize like he does,
11:46and like a person with psychopathic traits also would.
11:50They're really able to have this callous approach and not really able to worry about it.
11:56So he lacks empathy.
11:58He doesn't know that, okay, even if I feel this way, someone else might not feel this way.
12:04Instead, he has the tendency to believe that everyone thinks the way that he does.
12:09You didn't want to pull the trigger, I know.
12:11The only thing I remember is him here, here, here, here, and he fell, and I don't know,
12:15hit the concrete, and it made a spark, or it went through his head and made a spark.
12:19How many times did you pull the trigger?
12:21Five.
12:22Five.
12:22All right, let's do it here, stand up for me.
12:26Actually, stay where you're at.
12:29Point the head at me like you pointed down to him.
12:31How far away was he?
12:33The front of the hood, about right, a little bit farther back.
12:35Further away?
12:36Back your chair up, if that helps.
12:39That's about distance.
12:40Okay, so show me what you did.
12:42He went, boom, he kind of buckled down.
12:45So he buckled down.
12:46And he kind of went like this again.
12:47Okay, then what would you do?
12:49I, boom, shot his ass in the shoulder, he went back up.
12:51Threw him back up.
12:53Boom, boom, and he fell, and then just like that, boom.
12:57Okay.
13:00Did you think you killed him?
13:03I hope I did.
13:03I mean, I don't want to kill nobody.
13:10Hey, come on now.
13:11Look, I'm facing life in prison now.
13:13It's not compartmentalization if there's no segmentation.
13:21So for Nairing, it's all just one big blackness.
13:28It's all one big emptiness.
13:30It's all one big not caring.
13:33Someone who compartmentalizes saying,
13:36yes, I committed this one bad act,
13:38but I can be okay with other people.
13:40They understand the element of caring.
13:44They understand how one loss can impact someone else.
13:48Nairing can't even fake feeling bad for what he did.
13:52That's the coldness that we are experiencing coming off of him.
13:55And he's finally revealing the truth about what happened.
13:59Can I say I felt right now we're going to donate?
14:01I don't believe you.
14:03And I don't think anyone else will either.
14:07I think there's something else.
14:08There isn't certain.
14:15He's going down.
14:17And you shoot him again.
14:20Pow, pow, pow, pow, pow.
14:28Make sure he was dead.
14:33You weren't falling down.
14:34I went to his hands and knees and shoot him again.
14:41Sounds like the rest of the law enforcement around here,
14:44and I don't.
14:45Really?
14:46Your story doesn't hold water
14:48as far as feeling threatened by this guy.
14:52I hear you talking about him reaching in his waistband.
14:56Okay?
14:56So I'm guessing that thing had a little video
14:59around the whole camera?
15:01Around the whole story?
15:02You made my facts off.
15:03That's all I remember, okay?
15:04It just happens to me.
15:07I don't care.
15:09I do.
15:10He's got no gun.
15:15So, I mean,
15:16I'm trying to understand why is it he shot him?
15:21He approached me.
15:22Gerald says it's because he owes you money.
15:28I'm not saying that.
15:30He's saying that.
15:31He's also saying that
15:33Joe didn't do nothing.
15:35He just walked up
15:36and he shot his ass.
15:39That's cold.
15:40I wouldn't do nothing like that.
15:43Narrowing is becoming increasingly agitated,
15:45increasingly frustrated,
15:46and this is because
15:48he is not succeeding
15:50in winning over the detectives
15:53in the story that he's telling.
15:55He starts to
15:57really want to know,
15:59okay, what do you know?
16:00I need to know what you know
16:01so that I can tell you
16:02the right thing.
16:03And I think that's where
16:04his agitation is coming from
16:05is that he's not succeeding.
16:07So why did you...
16:08He didn't sketch you.
16:10That was it.
16:10He raised his foot.
16:12Yeah, but if I don't see his hands
16:14going into his pants,
16:15it just means
16:23that you're being dishonest.
16:25You're saying something
16:26that you've seen on TV.
16:27Oh, yeah, this is self-defense.
16:29Bobo, he's selling drugs.
16:30He shot them.
16:31But no, it don't work that way.
16:33No, I'm a ****.
16:33I know that.
16:34I'm not stupid.
16:35It's how a **** are you?
16:38Um...
16:38Why are we big bubbles
16:39a **** somewhere?
16:40Does wine help you?
16:42What, that's her?
16:43Yes.
16:43A **** is a ****, okay?
16:46That's straight-up honesty.
16:48A **** is a ****, okay?
16:51He **** deserved it.
16:53If I wouldn't have done it,
16:55that's what the **** did.
17:02Why didn't he deserve it?
17:04He was going to come threatening my ass,
17:05tell me he was going to
17:06**** me over,
17:07kick down my door,
17:08**** me up when I'm sleeping.
17:11You're going to **** play.
17:13You're going to come threatening my ass
17:14with a **** knife
17:15from your goddamn house.
17:16I'm going to pull a gun out of you,
17:17shoot me, ****, shoot me.
17:19**** you.
17:21You're going to play with me.
17:22When you're laying?
17:23Well, all bad.
17:24That's...
17:24That's...
17:25There wasn't no ****
17:26people that hated it or nothing.
17:28It's a ****' brander.
17:29And that day...
17:30I called up, I said,
17:30you need something?
17:31And he said,
17:31all right, yeah, yeah, yeah.
17:32You want to run the corner?
17:33I said, all right.
17:33And I burned his **** ass.
17:35I said, dad, I'm a song.
17:35I said, I burned his **** ass.
17:37He reached with **** with nothing.
17:38Shot the **** in his horse face.
17:40He made an ugh.
17:41No reason I shot the **** in the **** head.
17:44That's why.
17:47Okay?
17:47Yeah.
17:48Don't **** with me.
17:49Don't **** with mine, that's it.
17:50He had no reason to treat me the way he did.
17:52How long ago was that he did it, dude?
17:54A while back.
17:55He's been calling me, threatening me,
17:56threatening me to come to my house, beat my up.
17:58And I'm anyway, so what is the matter?
18:01This is the turn that we've all been waiting for,
18:04to finally see the psychopathy really come out.
18:08This is the level of just how much he doesn't care
18:13about Ross as a human being.
18:16This is not a man who feels fear,
18:19not in any way that you or I feel fear.
18:23This is someone who really doesn't care
18:26about another human life.
18:30And the fact that Ross may or may not have owed him money,
18:35it didn't matter.
18:37The fact that Ross was breathing
18:39was offensive enough to Narek
18:41to put five bullets in him,
18:44including one when he was already down and probably dying.
18:49Did you make any mistakes tonight?
18:52Make any bad decisions?
18:54Like it's what?
18:55In regards to what happened.
18:57Between you and Joe.
19:01I mean, probably the best thing I shot him at,
19:04but what if he would have shot me?
19:05I mean, you had to see this was eventually
19:13going to happen, though, right?
19:16Yeah.
19:16I told you this little b**** you deserved it.
19:19I go to hell for doing it.
19:20There's one left a little junkie b**** on the street.
19:23So then you cross that line,
19:26you're like,
19:26damn consequences be damned,
19:28you need to do this.
19:29Yeah, you're damn right.
19:30And I made sure that's a b**** that,
19:31there's no dead man,
19:32there's no f***ing tail.
19:33I f***ed up,
19:34because I used my truck and my f***ing camera.
19:39This goes along with his theme
19:42of narcissism and grandiosity.
19:45And Narek thinks that he's judge, jury, and executioner.
19:50Like it's somehow his role
19:51to take out people that, you know,
19:53aren't contributing to society
19:55in the way he thinks they should
19:56or that people don't like.
19:58But who is he to do that?
19:59You know, he obviously thinks
20:00he has a very important role
20:01and it's his job
20:02and people should just move on.
20:10A jury is expected
20:11to start deliberating today
20:13in an Escambia County murder trial.
20:14Police say Nicholas Narek
20:16shot and killed Joseph Ross
20:17near the corner store
20:19on North 9th Avenue last January.
20:22Officers believe the shooting
20:23was drug-related.
20:299-1-1, what is the address of the emergency?
20:36I'm down by Old Dixie behind seaplines.
20:38I just killed someone.
20:40What's wrong with me?
20:41I was accelerating ahead of him.
20:43What were your thoughts like
20:44when that, right at that moment?
20:46I just smiled and laughed.
20:49We'll you back and hear them.
20:51Good night.
20:52Good night.
20:52Good night.
20:59Good night.
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