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00:36Opo. Ano po masasabi nyo dun sa naging desisyon ng Senate Impeachment Court na in-archive yung impeachment case ni Vice President Duterte?
00:43Nandun po kayo mismo sa plenary at narinig nyo yung mayoria ng ginawang debate?
00:49What is your question?
00:51Opo. Ano po yung reaction nyo dun sa kanilang naging desisyon na in-archive po nila?
00:55Itong impeachment case ng Vice President?
01:01I think what they said was they will archive it and kung ang Supreme Court magbago ng kanilang desisyon.
01:10And following the filing of the motions for reconsideration, pwede naman reviven yung archive.
01:23Iyon ang sabi nila.
01:25Opo. So hindi pa pupatay itong impeachment case?
01:28If you read the Supreme Court decision, sabi nila ng Supreme Court, pag in-archive, it amounts to a dismissal.
01:40So attorney, para po sa inyo patay na talaga itong impeachment case laban sa Vice President.
02:07Dahil in-archive na ito ng Senado.
02:10Dahil ang sinasabi po ng iba, pag in-archive nga, nabanggit nyo nga, pwede pa namang i-revive eh.
02:14Pero based nga po sa inyong sinasabi, patay na talaga ang impeachment case.
02:19Well, tingnan natin kung ano yung sasabihin ng Supreme Court.
02:25With regard to the petitions for reconsideration, including oral argument.
02:31But for example, sabi ni Sen. Marcoleta, na marami daw kakulangan ang house na hindi ginawa.
02:42Now that is according to the Supreme Court.
02:45In relation to the new conditions na pinasok ng Supreme Court with respect to the process.
02:58Yon, sabi niya, ay, kakulangan.
03:04Pero that's under the new conditions put by the Supreme Court.
03:11But under the existing conditions at the time that those things happen, walang shortcoming yung house.
03:20Diba? That's why people are saying, well, operative fact doctrine dapat na ipalay dyan.
03:28Na bagong rules nila dapat prospective rather than retroactive.
03:34Opo, dun nga po sila nagtagal, dun sa kanilang debate kahapon.
03:37Pero sa palagay nyo, dahil dun sa binanggit nyo, may pag-asa po ba yung motion for reconsideration ng House of Representatives?
03:44Well, I hope that the Supreme Court will look seriously into these issues raised and will judge accordingly, independently, and according to their conscience.
04:03Kasi kailangan yon, diba?
04:06So, sa akin naman, because remember that eventually the people prevail.
04:15The people prevail.
04:16Kung kanilang, hindi nila iniisip, at saka hindi nila pinuprotect yung rights of the people, sooner or later, they will have to account for that.
04:28Opo.
04:29Nabanggit nyo po yung mga bagong panuntunan na sinasabi na inilahad ng Supreme Court.
04:33At paulit-ulit pong ipinunto ni Sen. Marcoleta na mali at hindi raw sinunod ng Kamara yung inihang impeachment complaint.
04:39Ano pong reaksyon nyo, Rod?
04:40Paano nilang susunod, paano nilang masusunduin yung, yung, ano, masusunod, paano nilang masusunod yung condition that was only, that was only said by the Supreme Court afterwards.
04:55Diba?
04:58Opo.
04:59Diba, they did not comply with the conditions.
05:03Well, the conditions were announced or included in Supreme Court decision.
05:10After the case has already proceeded.
05:16Remember that on September 5, it was the fourth complaint was sent to the Senate.
05:27And the Senate took their auto office.
05:29Tapos nag-issue sila ng summons doon sa Vice President.
05:34The Vice President answered yung articles of impeachment kasi naka-attach doon sa so-monsyon.
05:43Diba?
05:44So sumagot yung Vice President.
05:48Tapos nag-comment pa yung House doon sa answer ng Vice President.
05:53A lot of things have already happened.
05:55When the Supreme Court decision came in, with these new conditions.
06:01Ngayon nga sabihin ng mga Senador, hindi nag-comply ang House.
06:04Of course they did not comply because it was non-existent at the time.
06:09Yun nga po, isa sa mga paulit-ulit na binabanggit ng
06:11the Senate did not acquire jurisdiction to constitute itself into an impeachment court.
06:16Pakipaliwadan ka po yun.
06:17Kasi basis na naging decision ng Court Suprema, parang hindi nangyari.
06:21Walang jurisdiction yung Senate doon sa impeachment complaint.
06:25Sorry, I did not, I did not, the sound in my computer, I did not get your question.
06:34Nabanggit nyo po na gumulong na nga eh, yung Senate impeachment case.
06:37Pero ang sinasabi po ng Supreme Court, the Senate did not acquire jurisdiction to constitute itself into an impeachment court.
06:44Pakipaliwadan nga po ito para sa ating mga manunood, na talagang in the first place wala na rin nangyari.
06:48So, kung ano daw, nagkaroon ng violation doon sa filing of the fourth complaint, yun ang consequence.
07:04So, kung ano daw, ang constitutional void of initial, so walang, there was no jurisdictional power of the Senate anymore
07:17because there is no, there is no, there is no complaint.
07:23Opo.
07:24Wala na yung complaint eh, di ba?
07:26Mm-hmm.
07:26Sinabi naman po ng Senate Court kahapon na pwedeng ma-revive.
07:34Pero sabi nyo nga, kung pagbabasehan yung naging desisyon mismo ng Korte Suprema,
07:39eh hindi na ito pwede mangyari.
07:40So, posible po po kaya na may maghain ng mosyon sa Korte Suprema para linawin nila itong kautosan na ito?
07:48Well, actually, the Senate has always wanted to dismiss the case.
07:55Do you remember when they proposed to pass a resolution to dismiss?
08:01Kaya lang it has watered down on the objection of certain senators na sinabi tayo muna.
08:09No, you cannot do that.
08:10They amended that resolution to say na it was, instead of remand, they said review,
08:23and then they said that without termination or dismissal.
08:29Pero ang original proposal doon is to dismiss.
08:34So, the Senate has always wanted to dismiss this case.
08:38Opo.
08:38Kauglay naman po sa issue ng accountability, sinabi po ng Senate President Tachisi Scudero,
08:43and I quote,
08:43The Senate is not your playground to run after your enemies.
08:47Ano pong reaction nyo doon?
08:50Who is you referring to?
08:52Well, itong impeachment case po, kasi paulit-ulit na sinasabi nung mga bumoto,
08:55na i-archive itong kaso na talagang tinatarget lamang daw po si Vice President Duterte dito sa kasong ito.
09:04Well, you know, that is up to the hearing.
09:10During the hearing, it's when...
09:14Doon po ito lalabas.
09:15Oho.
09:15...will be discussed, and the objections of the Vice President will be listened to.
09:20And the Vice President can face the witnesses.
09:26And due process yan.
09:28But what the Supreme Court seems to say is that yung due process applies even with respect to the meeting,
09:41the meeting of the internal meeting of the House.
09:44Diba? Yun ang sinasabi nila, na dapat i-inform si Vice President,
09:51and the Vice President was allowed to put her side.
09:55But the meeting of the House was not a hearing.
10:03It was an internal meeting.
10:05In which the House endorsed the charge number 4.
10:14And after that, according to the Supreme Court,
10:18after that, na-archive,
10:24na-archive yung tatlo,
10:26at ang interpretation ng Supreme Court, yung archive, is dismissal.
10:30Hmm, okay.
10:33Well, abangan po natin kung anong magiging susunod na kabanata,
10:36ika nga, at kung anong magiging desisyon ng Korte Suprema sa MR,
10:39at kung magkakaroon ulit ng pagsasampan ng impeachment case after the one-year ban.
10:43Malaming salamat po sa oras na binahagi niyo po sa Balitang Hali.
10:46Alright.
10:471987 Constitution Framer Attorney Christian Monzod.
