Miami Dolphins, Tua Tagovailoa and Tyreek Getting NO RESPECT From Odds Makers

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Tobin and Leroy discuss Tyreek Hill's camp injury and how low his over/under numbers are for the season. Same goes for Jaylen Waddle and Tua Tagovailoa. Is this all due to a lack of faith in Tua's health?

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00:00Miami Dolphins have, uh, wrapped up another day of practice.

00:05They're going to get themselves to the, uh, they're going to get to themselves

00:11with a joint practice with the Chicago bears.

00:15And, uh, you can actually get some action going on here.

00:20Tyree kill the big news today.

00:21Tyree kill was not a practice because of an undisclosed injury, you know, not

00:27great.

00:28Hope that he has a speedy recovery.

00:30Does everything else speedy speed recovery?

00:34Please.

00:36I mean, if Trey young is tiny and has tiny feelings, cheetah, does everything

00:40speedy speedy recovery?

00:42Um, I would say this, there's no, besides the things that I talked about that I

00:48would have concerns about.

00:50Yep.

00:51Like wide receivers and sore hammies that happens every camp.

00:56It's not a big deal is, you know, you get into competition.

01:00You start turning it up and cranking up the speed or whatever.

01:04There's a difference in running fast by yourself and running fast when your body

01:09demands it, you know, in a practice or something like that.

01:12So, um, I would say not if it's just that I wouldn't worry about a couple of days off or whatever,

01:21just to, to get the soreness out and not be, have it linger, but it's Tyreek.

01:28And that's the point that I was making, you know, earlier, you just always have to just raise an eyebrow to it.

01:37He can't just have an undisclosed injury.

01:39I don't want to, I don't want to, but it's his actions that have me that way.

01:45Right.

01:45It's not me just arbitrarily coming up with these, you know, negative thoughts, especially when what

01:54everybody was talking about, what's going on this off season and about everybody being accountable

01:59and all this stuff.

02:00Yeah.

02:01I, I, and, and, and I think that's, I definitely think that that's, it's great that everybody's

02:06more in that measure.

02:08Um, I just, I don't know how much I buy into it with him.

02:13He's 30, he's 30, 31 years old.

02:15Like, you know, like we're going to talk about this, this great change in behavior of what

02:21he's going to be.

02:21Like, I think he's going to be an amazing football player.

02:24I think there'll be time.

02:25I think if things are good, I don't think it's a problem.

02:27Like he, he strikes me as we've seen it.

02:31If he's, if everything's rolling and it's gravy and two is healthy, does anybody have

02:36any concerns about cheetah?

02:37My concerns are for the team is if things get off to a bad start, how is he going to

02:43be in, in, in a foxhole of chaos?

02:46That's really is facing adversity.

02:48That's when I'll worry.

02:50But that's, but that would be the sign of him improving.

02:53Right.

02:54If he's able, if he gets through it just fine.

02:55Yeah.

02:55Cause I think if things get back to normal and he's balling, that might, there's not

03:02going to be any problems.

03:03Like if it's good, it's good.

03:05And is, is that the problem in itself is that you can only have a good attitude and be positive

03:13when things are going good.

03:14But yes, but he hasn't dealt with a lot of, cause even when the team has struggled, he's

03:19put up incredible numbers, you know?

03:21And that's the thing is like, there's never last year.

03:24And he even said it was the first time he's missed the playoffs.

03:27Didn't have a thousand yards after breaking the record back to back years.

03:31So it was a new experience for him.

03:34So I don't even know, like, what does the in-between look like?

03:36I don't know.

03:37You know, is there, is there, is there a line of.

03:40Oh, I would say, what do you say?

03:42His over under is 1200, 1300.

03:44I don't think, I think his over under is crazy off.

03:47Let me, let me see.

03:48Uh, Tyree kill.

03:50Cause I think.

03:50Tyree kill receiving yards prop.

04:05Hmm.

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04:16Just give me the odds.

04:18So, so yeah, I think.

04:20Somebody said it's in the high nine hundreds.

04:25What?

04:26So they think he's not going to get a thousand again.

04:28That seems crazy.

04:31Doesn't that seem crazy to you?

04:32Is that just because they think.

04:33It does.

04:34Is going to be the number one.

04:35No, I just think.

04:38Uh, I mean.

04:40Yeah.

04:41I like.

04:42There's so many different levels to this because I think.

04:46If.

04:47They're doing a better job of running the football.

04:49Tyreek is going to have himself a day.

04:53Yes.

04:53Right now on FanDuel.

04:55It's a nine seventy five.

04:57For Tyreek.

04:59Yeah.

05:01Nine seventy five.

05:02That's what they got.

05:03He's thirty one.

05:05That don't mean nothing.

05:07Thirty one is a.

05:09Wide receiver.

05:10It's not like.

05:11Why are we treating them like running backs all of a sudden?

05:14Because we're in a new.

05:15What's Waddles?

05:18Waddles over under.

05:20That's receiving TVs.

05:21What's his over under for yards?

05:25Waddles is nine twenty five.

05:27Man.

05:27So they don't think.

05:28Oh, they don't think they're going to have a thousand yard receiver.

05:30That's kind of crazy.

05:31So let me ask.

05:32No, John Smith here.

05:34So.

05:35If you had to make a guess based on those numbers.

05:38That has to be just that they don't think it was going to play.

05:41That's how you think.

05:41What do you think two is over under is thirty five hundred.

05:44Let me see.

05:47I think I can scroll over.

05:48Because with those numbers, it's got to be like thirty five hundred and twenty and fifteen,

05:53twenty touchdowns.

05:56Passing props to.

06:00Thirty five hundred.

06:02Yeah.

06:04And his touchdowns is probably twenty twenty five.

06:07So to a finish last year when he was hurt.

06:11What was his final numbers to twenty eight hundred.

06:14Right.

06:16His year before that forty six hundred when he led the league thirty five hundred and thirteen

06:21games the year before that.

06:23Right.

06:25I don't know, man.

06:26Like all it is like literally all these bets are are is to are going to play a season.

06:31Right.

06:31If you think to it can play the season.

06:34I feel like these are easy hits.

06:35I think if they do a better job being physical up front, then two will have.

06:46You know, more opportunities to play if you try and air it out all the time, then he's going

06:58to get chicken winged, hit scramble.

07:00So all those things are, you know, more possible.

07:05Sure.

07:06Sure.

07:06But but even, you know, even the year that they did air it out and she almost had eighteen

07:13hundred had just under a tick under eighteen hundred yards.

07:16Like Mostert still ran for over a thousand.

07:20But that's what I'm that's what I'm saying.

07:22H and had eight hundred.

07:23So like that's what I'm saying, though.

07:25When you look at you look at the success, look at the success of the running game and

07:32see how that benefited the passing game.

07:36Right.

07:36You see, they couldn't put those four guys deep and play that that, you know, that that

07:42deep coverage when you run in the ball.

07:45Well, and that was my whole point is that we tend to look at the numbers of Tyreek without

07:51looking at you.

07:52Damn, they had two thousand yard rushers and that created space for Tyreek.

07:58Like, but if the quarterback's healthy and we do think that the run game is going to

08:04be more committed, like those seem like layups.

08:07Yeah, but I would and I would say this.

08:11If you're running the ball well, it still creates space for the secondary, because what

08:17ends up happening is if Tua does get hurt, they're going to kind of say we're going to

08:23force this backup quarterback, whoever it is, to throw the football.

08:28So they're going to they're going to stack up the box if you don't have to be as good

08:32when you got more open space to operate in the secondary.

08:36Where's Julian Hills over under?

08:37Oh, my goodness.

08:38Are you serious?

08:42One catch.

08:44One catch.

08:45He's not on the props because he been because I'm going to be honest with you.

08:49Everything I've heard in this camp is he's been beating the hell up out of the football.

08:56If I wanted to bet on Julian Hill's season props, I have to go find Vladislav Golden's

09:01uncle to go find that bookie.

09:03That's the only guy taking that action.

09:05And he's going to be like, you want to bet on who?

09:07I can't give you those odds.

09:11I can't give you those odds.

09:13Who is this?

09:15It's like he's a Dolphins tight end.

09:16He's probably going to be the third tight end receiving option.

09:19You know, he just he's there to just maul people.

09:22Right.

09:23Why you bet any time touchdown?

09:25She'll bet no time touchdown.

09:28Yeah.

09:29That's one bet you could be the house.

09:32I want to be the house on this one.

09:36What?

09:36Are we getting hurt?

09:38No, just should just give me ten dollars now.

09:41How much is that?

09:42Anytime Julian Hill touchdown, he's been bet for two years.

09:47It's like he's betting a lot.

09:49That's the great part about it.

09:50You know what I mean?

09:51Don't have to.

09:51It's still throwing away money.

09:53Right.

09:53It's only like ten dollars.

09:55170 bucks.

09:56Yeah.

09:57Throwing it out.

09:59Unless I hit it once.

10:00Hit it once.

10:02That's it.

10:02Then I'm on top.

10:03Once I hit it, I think I'm out.

10:05But I got to hit it.

10:08Tommy, I'm sorry.

10:08You're going to have to, you know, wear the same shoes this year, buddy.

10:12Papa, can I have some new shoes?

10:15No, son.

10:15Julian Hill didn't come through.

10:18Yeah.

10:19Yeah.

10:20Yeah.

10:21Yeah.

10:22Yeah.

10:23Yeah.

10:24Yeah.

10:25Yeah.

10:26Yeah.

10:27Yeah.

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