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Parliament is considering a two-hour daily screen time limit for under-16s - plus curfews and lock outs. Ministers say it’s about protecting youngsters wellbeing and giving parents more control.

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00:00The government is considering strict new rules on how long under-16s can spend on social media.
00:08A daily two-hour time cap per app, including platforms like TikTok and Snapchat,
00:15is amongst the measures actively discussed by the Technology Secretary Peter Kyle.
00:20He says some children are spending more than 12 hours a day online,
00:24often encountering violent or sexual content, and that parents feel powerless to intervene.
00:32There's a concern about the amount of time that children, particularly small children,
00:36indeed even preschool children, but nonetheless children up to the age of 16 and beyond,
00:42it's surely not healthy spending all day, particularly when the sun is shining at the moment,
00:47they should be out in the garden or in the park doing the things that I did at that age,
00:51when, of course, the internet had yet to be invented, or, of course, it was a dream.
00:56I speak with some degree of experience, having sort of brought up two boys.
01:00I recognise that there is that seductiveness, and particularly, of course, teenage boys trying to get them to bed
01:08because, of course, they need their sleep when, of course, they're in the middle of a game,
01:11because, of course, it is highly addictive.
01:13The government's proposals follow a year-long focus group with teenagers in Darlington,
01:19where many described compulsive scrolling, poor sleep and online contact from strangers.
01:26Some teens welcomed the idea of tougher restrictions, saying existing controls are easy to bypass.
01:34Others said app design encourages excessive use.
01:38Mr Carr said the goal is not only to prevent criminal exploitation, but to promote healthier online habits.
01:45He's currently overseeing implementation of the 2023 Online Safety Act,
01:52which will enforce mandatory age checks for adult websites.
01:57Critics, including Laura Tross, say the new proposals are too slow and won't go far enough.
02:04Social media companies say they already offer parental controls,
02:07but only TikTok responded directly, saying it supports a 10pm curfew reminder
02:13and a 60-minute time limit for teens, which can be overridden with a passcode.
02:20In terms of the two-hour deadline, I think the argument might be,
02:26at least the riposte would be for a lot of people, well, good luck with that,
02:29because, of course, who is going to police it?
02:32It comes down to parents, and, of course, as we know, many parents,
02:35they see this as a way, if you like, of allowing their children to do things,
02:39which keeps them quiet, often their own bedrooms.
02:42And, of course, there is also a belief with a great deal of justification
02:46if they're in their bedrooms, they're safe as opposed to being on the streets
02:49with all the problems that that may bring and the dangers.
02:54Billy Connolly, at the advent of the internet, called it the worldwide dustbin.
02:57Well, yeah, he may have sort of heard there was a great truth in that.
03:01But undoubtedly, yeah, it's a sort of murky place.
03:04And, of course, as we sort of know, that sort of children,
03:06they don't have the sort of, if you like, the sort of the inbound
03:09sort of safety measures built in, as it were.
03:12So in that sort of sense that they will sort of explore places
03:15where perhaps we wouldn't want them to go.
03:17And the difficulty is, unless you're standing over their shoulders
03:20watching where they're going and what they're doing and getting access to porn,
03:23which, let's face it, it's not very hard to sort of do.
03:26Whatever sort of controls you may think you have on the sort of the screen,
03:30children are very good at getting around them.
03:32It's a big, big problem.
03:34And it's not one that's going to be solved very easily.
03:36And the two-hour limit, it's well-intentioned.
03:40But, of course, as they say, the road to hell is paved within good intentions.
03:43So difficult because, as I say, it's going to require parents to sort of engage a lot more.
03:47And, of course, of course, we know parents these days are busy with lots of other things also.
03:51But in overall terms, yeah, I think the limit is a good thing.
03:56The policing is where it sort of starts to sort of become a bit questionable.
03:59As debate continues, the question is not just how much time children spend online,
04:03but who should be responsible for setting boundaries.
04:07Ministers say it's time to give parents more tools and to ease the pressure of constant monitoring.
04:12They argue that limiting screen time and access to certain apps is no different from setting a regular bedtime or limiting suites.
04:22But privacy groups warn of unintended consequences.
04:25Either way, it's a conversation that shows no sign of slowing down.

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