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TYTurks News Channel  #TheYoungTurks #BreakingNews #TYT Trump sidestepped questions about his Epstein ties by shifting blame, urging reporters to investigate Bill Clinton and Larry Summers instead.  Cenk Uygur, John Iadarola,  and Wosny Lambre discuss on The Young Turks. Do you agree with TYT's take? Tell us what you think in the comments below. "Trump told reporters to focus on other people with connections to Epstein, naming two of his political enemies—former President Bill Clinton and former Harvard President Larry Summers—when asked by reporters about the persistent Epstein drama.  It’s widely known that Bill Clinton and Larry Summers are among Epstein’s circle of high-powered friends: both appeared on Epstein’s flight logs, according to previous reports citing court documents, while Clinton and Epstein were photographed together on multiple occasions and Summers solicited donations from Epstein during his Harvard tenure from 2001-2006 then continued to meet with him after Epstein’s first conviction in 2008, the Wall Street Journal reported (a spokesperson for Clinton told media outlets previously he cut ties with Epstein before his 2019 arrest). Trump, speaking to reporters as he departed Washington for Scotland, also said he would give them a “list” of “hedge fund guys” who “lived with Jeffrey Epstein,” adding “I sure as hell didn’t [live with Epstein].”" TYT is the largest online news network in the country. It presents news, context and analysis. We have dozens of on-air hosts on half a dozen major channels on almost all the platforms. We also have a live 24-hour news channel that features all our shows. The Young Turks is the flagship show of the TYY Network. The Young Turks is the longest running daily show in internet history. We’re about to celebrate our 20th anniversary as a digital native show.  On the network, we do things a little differently than other places. We present the news first, with all of the facts and context you need, which is a rarity in commentary-heavy online shows. We then also give analysis and perspective, which is rare in traditional news  #TYT #TYTurks #BreakingNews

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00:00They should focus on the fact that Larry Summers from Harvard, that Bill Clinton,

00:06who you know very well, and lots of other friends, really close friends of Jeffrey Summers

00:12should be spoken about, because Jeffrey Epstein should be spoken about.

00:18And they should speak about them, because they don't talk about them,

00:21they talk about me, I have nothing to do with the guy.

00:24Yeah, yeah, talk about Bill Einstein or Tim Apple or somebody, anybody,

00:29who might be in the documents, we don't know again, because that guy won't release the documents.

00:37These people who probably do have some connection to Jeffrey Epstein, obviously,

00:41we're nowhere near as close over the course of decades as Donald Trump was. And notably,

00:45neither Larry Summers nor Bill Clinton are actively involved in a cover up of the entire thing.

00:50But sure, let's talk about them instead, Donald Trump would really hope. But he's got those

00:57individuals and he's also got like sort of an amorphous group he'd like you to be interested

01:02in of hedge fund guys, just some big group, take a look. You should focus on Clinton,

01:08you should focus on the president of Harvard, the former president of Harvard.

01:13You should focus on some of the hedge fund guys, I'll give you a list.

01:17These guys lived with Jeffrey Epstein, I sure as hell didn't.

01:20You'll give us a list, that's cool, I didn't think there was a list because you said there

01:26wasn't and I'd like the list, could I have the list? Could you give us the documents that all

01:32those names are in? Apparently, it's full of fascinating names we should be talking about

01:35and I'm begging you to let me talk about them, just give me the documents and I will begin

01:40to do that. But I don't think you wanna do that actually, I don't think you're gonna release

01:45those documents anytime soon. But anyway, Larry Summers and Bill Clinton are notable guys and

01:51Cenk, if they're in there and if they've done something wrong, we'll do plenty of segments on

01:56them. But what do you think about this most recent attempt at distraction?

01:59Yeah, so there's a lot more where that came from and there's a lot more evidence that came out just

02:03in the last 24 hours about Donald Trump's connection to Epstein. It's just like a tsunami, you know why?

02:10Because they were great friends for at least 10 years, 10 to 20 years and there's and we'll get

02:16some of the evidence on that in a minute, right? So I'm with John obviously, this is hilarious,

02:22right? I don't know why they're talking about me, could it be because you're the president

02:27right now and you're in the files and your own attorney general said that? In fact, you're all over

02:32the files, that doesn't mean he did it, but it does mean that a lot of people were talking about him

02:36in that context. So was Jeffrey Epstein on tape. Okay, we have that as well. Okay, so and you're

02:43the one actively hiding the evidence. That might be why we're talking about you. By the way, though,

02:49if you release it and Bill Clinton and Larry Summers are in there, we'll rip their face off.

02:53Okay, so you'll be happy, Maggie will be happy, everybody will be happy, right? Because we don't

02:59give a damn Democrat or Republican, we just wanna know why the hell are you guys all hiding this?

03:04Okay, so this is insanity. This is the government of both parties going, no,

03:10we're never gonna be honest with you. If you can't see why that makes people more curious

03:16and more suspicious, you're not very bright, okay? Or of course, you're assuming that

03:22none of your voters are bright, and then you'll just be able to trick them.

03:26Well, how's that working out for you guys? And last thing I'll double down on is,

03:30you got a list of hedge fund guys. Okay, John, you're right. First,

03:34I thought the list didn't exist. Second of all, I thought the list was fake.

03:38So why do you have a list of a bunch of fake people on the list made up by Obama,

03:44Biden, Clapper, and Comey? If you remember, that was one of his many excuses.

03:49So why are you highlighting a fake list? And okay, fine, let put all that aside. Now,

03:54you're saying this is your third iteration of it, that there's some hedge fund guys,

03:58Wall Street guys who are on this? Yes, we want that. Yes, give it to us today. Yeah,

04:02you want it? Why wouldn't we want it? Like who's in the hedge fund protection business

04:08other than you a-holes in Washington? Yeah.

04:11Like no one else is like, no, no, no, don't tell us about the hedge fund guys.

04:15Yeah, and you know Donald Trump is desperate to get you off his back if he's willing to give up

04:22those people that he loves more than anyone else. Yeah.

04:24So yeah, the entire thing is highly suspicious. Did we want to give Waz a chance to wait?

04:28Yeah, Waz real quick on that stuff. I mean, it's hard to parse this,

04:33honestly, because I got to say like the kind of conspiracy stuff.

04:39I was highly skeptical that Jeffrey Epstein was running like some blackmail ring and

04:44Donald Trump was part of it and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. However, the guy's behavior more

04:50recently is it's pretty much changed my mind because I think the old Donald Trump would have

04:56trusted the idea that he could shoot somebody in the middle of Fifth Ave and his fans would still

05:03support him and just released everything. And his name would have been in there and so would have a

05:07bunch of other people. And if it was just like, yeah, I've been to parties with them. I've gone to

05:12his house. I was friends with him for 15 years. He'd be like, yeah, I got rid of him in 2004. These

05:17other people kept hanging out with him forever. He could have just kind of moved on from this

05:23because there are so many other prominent people in here. But his refusal to let it out,

05:29even though he knows there's other people to be implicated makes me believe that

05:34he was doing something very, very shady with Jeffrey Epstein.

05:38Yeah, just real quick, Andrew Schultz said the same thing today, almost verbatim to what Waz said,

05:43right? And Andrew voted for Trump this time around. And even he's like, I didn't think there was

05:50anything, but now I'm sure there is. Yeah.

05:52Especially once they started throwing the squirrels around, Washington commanders,

05:56Hillary emails. And Andrew Schultz said by the time they got to

06:01Obama and how he committed treason, I'm sure he's on the list.

06:05Yeah. Okay, now I know he did it,

06:07right? And I'm in the same place as you guys. I don't know if Trump did it, right? And I would have

06:11assumed he didn't because he seemed a little cavalier about it before. But the way that his hair is on

06:17fire is making everyone think he did it. The thing, I've never accused him of anything specific.

06:24I wouldn't do that without evidence. I'm not a conservative. But the line from him in the,

06:30I think political reporting, they're going to accuse me of funny business.

06:35He keeps going beyond just, I'm in the file to, they're going to claim I did a specific thing.

06:45Which if we were going to do that, we'd have already done that. We've been talking about this

06:48for three weeks straight. None of us are jumping to be like, he had sex with this particular girl.

06:54But he is sure that specific accusations are coming. And we now know that he's known for months,

07:00his presence in the files. That I think, again, I'm not going to make any specific claims.

07:07I think he knows about something particularly damning that's in there. That is not just,

07:11you knew the guy, you partied with the guy. He's acting like, so again,

07:16all the way back to the Fox News thing. He was like, well, a lot of phony stuff could ruin someone's

07:21mind, or it could ruin someone's life. That's worse than just, you hung out with the guy.

07:26He clearly thinks there's something damning coming. That's all I'll say for now.

07:30Super last thing on that, because we've got to give you more of the evidence,

07:33is that it doesn't have to be either or guys, because another leading theory was intelligence

07:37agencies. Now, if you're in the intelligence agencies and you don't want this released

07:43for whatever reason, what would be awesome is if Trump is in the files and you've got something on

07:48him, because then he's definitely not going to want to release it and reveal what actually happened,

07:53right? So if it's one of the intelligence agencies, they're like, if Trump's in there,

07:58they're like, yes, we got him, okay? That way, you'll never see him.

08:03Let's go through some of the additional evidence, not about his culpability with specific crimes,

08:08but just the longstanding, just great friendship that he apparently had with Epstein. We're gonna

08:13return to the topic of the letter that was sent to him, Jeffrey Epstein, for his 50th birthday,

08:18which Trump has claimed never existed. His excuse about it is changing though,

08:24take a look at this, see if it's convincing. Can you maintain you did not write a letter

08:29for Jeffrey Epstein's birthday? I don't even know what they're talking about.

08:32Now, somebody could have written a letter and used my name, but that's happened a lot.

08:36All you have to do is take a look at the dossier, the fake dossier. Everything's fake

08:41with that administration. Everything's fake with the Democrats.

08:44How are you supposed to trust this kind of letter? Just anything.

08:49Everything's fake with them. It's all made up, even the stuff that's true.

08:52I don't like it, so it's fake. So somebody back in 2003,

08:56sent a phony letter to Jeffrey Epstein and signed Donald Trump's name to it.

09:01Why? You were friends with the guy for 15 years at that point, you remained friends with him for

09:07years. And in the middle of your friendship, somebody posed as you to send him a letter?

09:12Why would they do that? I'm not asking a rhetorical question. Honestly,

09:16why would anyone do that? I have a theory.

09:19Okay, so first of all, anytime Donald Trump says somebody could have done it,

09:23that means he did do it. Okay, so that happened.

09:25So he always gives the game away. He's hilarious that way. Okay, now in this case,

09:31here's what I thought instantly as soon as that story broke. And I think I said it on air

09:36that day or the day after. So Ghislaine Maxwell is going to organize this 50th birthday party for

09:43Epstein. She's the one that goes to Trump and all of his other friends and goes, hey, can you send a

09:47note? We're gonna put it in a book, etc., right? So my guess is a lot of those rich and famous people

09:52were like, all right, you write the note and then I'll edit it or something. That happens a lot,

09:56right? So probably she wrote it and all the references to enigmas and secrets that she,

10:04Epstein and Trump know, right? And then he signs it, right? So he saw it, he okayed it,

10:12but Ghislaine might have written it. I think the reason he's in a panic is because the pubic hair

10:17part is a signature. And when you see the signature, you're all gonna go, yeah,

10:22that's Donald Trump's signature. Yeah. Right? So that's the part that's most authentic.

10:26That's why he's like, I could have, but it got a lot of fake. I mean, you never know,

10:29somebody else could have written it, etc. And I think that's what he's referring to,

10:32but it's just my guess. The thing that I want both of your opinions on, though,

10:37is like, no, we're not surprised that he potentially sent a letter. They hung out all the time or

10:42whatever. What the interesting thing in this that I think a lot of people have started,

10:45I think the bulwark started to speculate about involves JD Vance,

10:49who has been oddly just not around for the past couple of weeks. Now, I know he's been largely

10:55irrelevant to the administration this entire time. But you would think during this most fraught period

11:00of the Trump presidency, JD Vance, his bulldog would be by his side. But he has been like,

11:05you've hadn't heard barely a peep out of him. And when he does put out a statement,

11:10it's interesting. He had this to say when asked by Chris Hayes about whether the letter actually exists.

11:14So he tweeted, I have no idea if the book exists, Wall Street Journal won't show it to us.

11:20I have no idea if the letter exists, Wall Street Journal won't show it to us,

11:23which is not denying that it does exist, which Trump is doing.

11:26So he's not agreeing with Trump. He's just saying I can't say for sure.

11:29What I find absurd is the idea that Donald Trump was writing poems to Epstein. And I find it equally

11:33absurd that a major American paper would attack the President of the United States without revealing

11:37the basis for the attack, which does seem to be sort of daring them to reveal it. And he's not saying

11:45it never could have happened or that if it happened, it's fine. He's just saying it's absurd to imagine

11:50that Trump would have done this. And so if it does come out, then JD Vance wasn't lying or anything.

11:56And he can be as shocked and chagrined as everybody by the fact that Donald Trump did actually send

12:03these pervy letters. And it feeds into the idea that some people have been speculating about that

12:09JD Vance's secret meeting to go see the Murdochs. And the weird way he's been kind of hands off

12:15with the whole Epstein thing and Donald Trump might be trying to keep himself clean.

12:19So that if Donald Trump goes down, which seems to me utterly inconceivable, but if he did that JD

12:25Vance would not be tarred with the same Epstein like nastiness and that maybe he could continue on

12:32as the new leader of the Republican Party. I don't know what you make of that.

12:35Yeah, I think that it's not that controversial at all, that you're 100% right.

12:40And so you don't want to stink of the Epstein files anywhere near you if you're gonna run for

12:45president, right? So if I was at JD Vance, I'd do the same thing. I'd be in a witness protection

12:50program. I'm actually surprised he made this comment because his first comment was this is all BS,

12:56nonsense, lost your journal with another fake news story. Now he's like, well,

13:00I don't know if the letter exists or doesn't exist. I don't know if the book exists or doesn't exist.

13:04So all of a sudden not BS anymore. Now all of a sudden perfectly plausible. No,

13:08they all know it exists and they all know that for some reason they believe it's coming out.

13:13And since they think it's definitely coming out, they're getting ahead of it by going,

13:16well, did we say BS? We're changing our story to maybe it exists, but of course it's fake.

13:23Everything is fake, of course, right? And I'm gonna jump in with one of the member comments,

13:28because I like this so much. Wang John wrote on tyt.com, any day now Trump will go full OJ.

13:34I'm not in the Epstein files, but if I was, here's what the files would say about me.

13:41I love it. Hey, you know what, Wang John, you're always funny, but that one was great.

13:45$100 blue apron gift card. If you're a member rewards at tyt.com, and I know you are,

13:50go collect that because that was great. Yeah, it was, go ahead.

13:53It's pretty obvious to me, and maybe people will say I'm being conspiratorial.

14:02When the guy issues a clear non-denial denial, he doesn't come out and say,

14:07this is complete BS, it doesn't exist. And here's why we know this. These files are in the possession

14:16of Trump's DOJ, Trump's FBI. Meaning, theoretically, anybody that's as high up as J.D. Vince or Donald

14:25Trump himself, can actually go see what's in there on their own. This is ridiculous.

14:35This idea that it's sitting in some secret vault. No, it's in possession of the United States

14:42government. You guys are at the head of the government. Go in there, get it, put it out,

14:49and show us what it is. This idea of guessing and I'm not really sure, I don't know.

14:56You guys are in possession of the entire file, all of this stuff. And viewers need to understand this.

15:04Like I watch a lot of true crime stuff, right? And you can watch like an FBI true crime thing

15:10where they explain to you the trial of the five families when they put Rico cases on the Italian

15:15mafia in New York. And they tell you, this is how we got the evidence. We got a fake electrician in

15:21this guy's house. We wired the bathrooms in this gentleman's club. We did this, we had this snitch.

15:27We, they literally will lay out the case, play you the tapes, all of this stuff on TV programs.

15:36They can do this. That's what I'm trying to say. Like they can literally let this evidence go.

15:43They can tell you what the DOJ had on this guy from the first case in 06 when they compelled him

15:49to agree to a plea of one year of confinement. Of course, we know it was a BS country club prison,

15:5512 days, 12 hours of the day. He got to do whatever the hell he wanted.

15:59But they had some level of evidence to compel this guy to even take a plea deal.

16:04Then of course, there's the financial disclosures. The administration is in possession of everything.

16:11This idea that they have to do this guesswork and play around is absurd.

16:16Yeah, I love that you conjure this idea of got to get all our ducks in a row.

16:21Perfect investigation, procedural. Meanwhile, Pam Bondi closed the case without

16:25talking to Ghislaine Maxwell. And literally never even spoke to her.

16:29And Trump had four years to go through this case. We pretending like it's his first term.

16:35Yeah. Like why didn't you do it in the first term? Come on.

16:38Exactly. No, the entire thing is ridiculous. And also I'm not gonna do like my whole spiel

16:42from like last Friday. But I don't even understand why they're like saying that the letter is fake.

16:47Like if it was real, do you think that they wouldn't care? Like again,

16:51we know that they were best friends for literally years. They apparently did exchange letters and

16:57stuff like that. And every day as more of the evidence of their bromance comes out,

17:03I feel worse about my male friendships. I've never maintained long term,

17:07a male friendship like this. I think guys, we have to do better.

17:11But anyway, Trump's name apparently was also on a contributor list for a book for Jeffrey Epstein's

17:1850th birthday. Sorry, somebody impersonated him on the contributor list for a book celebrating

17:24the 50th birthday. And again, other people were on it, not just Donald Trump. Alan Greenberg,

17:30who were headed Bear Stearns, Les Wexner, owner of Victoria's Secret. Bill Clinton had a letter in

17:37there in which he praised Epstein's childlike curiosity, which in any way would be a better

17:47way to word that Bill Clinton. The introductory letter to it from Ghislaine Maxwell is present.

17:53You can actually see the shot of it right there. And by the way, if this letter turns out to be

17:59authentic from Trump, which spoiler alert, it was real. It wouldn't be the only time he did it.

18:04Apparently, a copy of Trump's book, Trump, the art of the comeback that belonged to Epstein

18:10was signed to Jeff. You are the greatest by Donald Trump in 1997. Again,

18:17because they were best friends for years and years and years.

18:21Yeah, last couple of things from members and viewers here because I'm loving you guys comments

18:27here. No, 1775 Jim says, they used the auto pen for Trump back then.

18:32I thought he was opposed to that. It's a great comment on Super Chat. And then

18:38YouTube member wrote in Casey with a good point. And we'll talk more about this in the next segment

18:42too. Of course, he'll pardon her right after she says he's not on the list.

18:47So, but the very fact that Trump's former lawyer is talking to Ghislaine Maxwell,

18:52taints everything about that conversation, right? So she comes out and says, don't worry,

18:57here's all the Democrats on the list. But conveniently, Trump didn't do it.

19:00Yeah. I mean, who's gonna believe that?

19:02Yeah. Right?

19:03Every right wing media personality.

19:05Well, that's also true. Okay, but these days, maybe not. And again, Rogan today. So when

19:11mentioned Andrew Schultz, Rogan today was like, yeah, what Kash Patel said on my show made no sense.

19:16They're obviously covering this up. So apparently, they're a little bit harder to fool than Trump

19:22thought. All right, Waz, last thoughts. Just another thing for people to keep in mind,

19:28Jeffrey Epstein in so much as this guy had a skill beyond trafficking young women. It was these sort of

19:38tax havens overseas, like tax shelters, shady ways for people to hide their money from our government.

19:46People to hide our money, quite frankly, from us. And if Donald Trump, if all he was doing and how

19:52he got connected with him, because he didn't have access to the sort of networks of foreign bank

19:59accounts and all of that stuff. And all he was doing with Jeffrey Epstein was money laundering.

20:04I promise you, he would already admitted that. But look, I didn't pay taxes, only dummies,

20:08only suckers. That's completely in line with the Trump MO. The fact that he hasn't come out and be like,

20:16look, it was just the money thing. It just shows you these guys had an intimate relationship.

20:22There's no two ways about it. I'm not gonna claim to know the ins and outs,

20:26but these two had a very intimate relationship and there's probably proof of said intimacy.

20:31Every time you ring the bell below, an angel gets his wings.

20:34Totally not true, but it does keep you updated on our live shows.

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