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President Donald Trump has left the door open to possibly pardon Jeffrey Epstein's child sex trafficking associate -- Ghislaine Maxwell -- in a shocking reversal of what the White House promised just two weeks ago.

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00:00So this is the second day where Jelaine Maxwell

00:04is talking to officials at the Justice Department

00:07about what she knows about others who may have been involved

00:12in criminal activity with Jeffrey Epstein

00:14on that island or elsewhere.

00:16So far, we have not heard anything

00:19about anyone being implicated.

00:21Interesting thing about this is Jelaine Maxwell

00:24has been asked about this many times before,

00:27and she has always said she doesn't know anything more.

00:30So the problem is gonna be even if she talks now

00:33or spills the beans, as it were,

00:36I'm not sure it's gonna convince everybody.

00:39In fact, I'm certain it will not convince everybody.

00:41But today, Donald Trump talked about it,

00:43and significantly, Donald Trump talked about

00:47whether he would cut Jelaine Maxwell a big break if she talked.

00:54Would you consider a pardon or a commutation

00:56for Jelaine Maxwell if you cooperated?

00:58It's something I haven't thought about.

00:59It's really something I'm allowed to do it,

01:03but it's something I have not thought about.

01:04But you wouldn't...

01:05No way.

01:06No way has he not thought about that.

01:08Two things.

01:08Number one, he has previously said that he wouldn't.

01:11The White House has come out and said they wouldn't.

01:12And number two, there's no way he hasn't thought about it.

01:15And number three, if she had the dirt on him,

01:17he would partner in a second in exchange

01:20for keeping that quiet.

01:21Well, I do not see how he could possibly make a deal

01:25saying, provided you don't talk about me.

01:28I mean, there's no way that...

01:29There's no way.

01:30And also, he's Teflon.

01:31But again, there is nothing that we know of,

01:35certainly in the Justice Department file,

01:37that implicates him.

01:38But again, the Justice Department file is incomplete.

01:41There is.

01:41And we keep going back to the fundamental issue

01:44is there's a reason he has not greenlit

01:46the release of all records.

01:48There's something in there.

01:49Maybe it's just like, I just don't want the implication.

01:51I want the inference.

01:52He's mentioned multiple times.

01:54One person told me he is all over the file.

01:58But both people I've talked to have said

02:02there's nothing in it that implicates him.

02:04So it may just be the optics of being mentioned as much.

02:09The big thing people are talking about now

02:11is this letter that Trump allegedly wrote.

02:14The Wall Street Journal is saying that Trump wrote a letter

02:17drawing a nude woman and talking about how he and Epstein

02:23have kept, quote, wonderful secrets over the years.

02:25Now, this was a birthday book in 2003.

02:29And there are about 50 people,

02:31because he knew everybody in New York.

02:33And there are 50 people who wrote these letters.

02:36Trump says he did not write this.

02:37He's suing the Wall Street Journal.

02:38He's suing Rupert Murdoch.

02:40But he was asked about Epstein's birthday.

02:44He did not write a letter for Jeffrey Epstein's birthday.

02:47I don't even know what they're talking about.

02:49Now, somebody could have written a letter and used my name,

02:52but that's happened a lot.

02:53All you have to do is take a look at the dossier,

02:56the fake dossier.

02:57Everything's fake with that administration.

03:00Everything's fake with the Democrats.

03:02Take a look at what they just found about the dossier.

03:05Everything is fake.

03:07They're a bunch of sick people.

03:08What is interesting about this is that book

03:11is now being held by the Jeffrey Epstein estate.

03:15They have that book.

03:16They have said that if they are subpoenaed,

03:20if they subpoena the book,

03:22they will cooperate with a lawful subpoena.

03:26So if Congress subpoenas it,

03:27presumably they're going to see it.

03:29And now what Trump said before, it's all fake.

03:32And now he's saying somebody may have done it on my behalf.

03:35That's right.

03:35That's different.

03:36It's very different.

03:36It's also going to be different now that he knows,

03:39because it's been reported by the Journal,

03:40that a lot of other luminaries,

03:41Bill Clinton, Vera Wang, and some others,

03:43also have written him notes in this same book.

03:46We should say that Vera Wang talks about

03:48making Jeffrey Epstein The Bachelor.

03:51Again, this is 2003,

03:53years before he was charged or accused of sex trafficking.

03:57Bill Clinton wrote,

03:58It's reassuring, isn't it,

04:01to have lasted long across all the years of learning and knowing,

04:06adventures and something else that's illegible,

04:09and also to have your childlike curiosity,

04:13the drive to make a difference,

04:15and the solace of friends.

04:17A lot of people are making a big deal of childlike curiosity.

04:21I think that's unfair.

04:22It's an innocuous comment,

04:23except for the fact that we now know what Jeffrey Epstein did.

04:26But what we know in 2025 is not necessarily what anybody knew in 2003.

04:32Look, Bill Clinton, given his history, right?

04:34There's a jaundiced eye with everything Bill Clinton says.

04:37Given his history,

04:38and given his relationship with friends with Jeffrey Epstein, right?

04:42He's all over the Epstein files.

04:45Isn't it fair for people to sort of wonder if there was more intent there?

04:50Same with Donald Trump, by the way.

04:52Donald Trump is not a Puritan, right?

04:55Isn't it fair to wonder what they knew?

04:57See, this is the problem, too,

04:59with the birthday book,

05:01with the file itself,

05:03which is they're going to be putting out a lot of names

05:07where they really don't have evidence,

05:09but it is going to sully everybody mentioned.

05:13Jess calling from Vegas,

05:14and this new information is chilling.

05:17Bill Clinton and Vera Wang are two very rich and powerful people,

05:20and as mentioned before,

05:22the birthday messages were written

05:23before the Epstein abuse charges came to light,

05:25and they appeared harmless,

05:27but now they do make us question

05:28who knew what was happening

05:30and who turned a blind eye to what was happening.

05:32And the problem with that is that did they know in 2003,

05:38or were they innocent comments

05:39where looking back all of a sudden it has new meaning

05:44but didn't have meaning when they said it?

05:46And that may be one of the arguments

05:48that lawyers for some of these famous people would make

05:52about do not release the name of my client

05:56because what you're going to do is ruin this person

05:59without any evidence behind it.

06:02We'll see you next time.

06:03Bye-bye.

06:04Bye-bye.

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