- 7/24/2025
In this episode, we discuss the passing of WWE Hall of Famer and Wrestling Icon Hulk Hogan!
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02:27Hello everybody
02:28Welcome to this episode
02:29Of the Pro Wrestling Podcast
02:30If you cannot tell right away
02:31From the onset of the show
02:33The demeanor
02:34The tone of my voice
02:35Definitely more of a somber note today
02:36The wrestling world
02:39Is all kind of like
02:39Rocking and reeling
02:40Because of the news
02:41The sad passing
02:42Of one of the most iconic wrestlers
02:44In the history of professional wrestling
02:46The immortal Hulk Hogan
02:47For me when I was
02:50Anybody who knows me
02:51When I do this show
02:52I usually have show notes
02:53Topics
02:53I open a million tabs
02:54On my computers
02:55And talk about all the daily news
02:57And all that kind of stuff
02:58Not today
02:59Today is all about Hulk Hogan
03:01Today is all about a guy
03:02Who
03:02Wow
03:04Talk about a polarizing individual
03:05Whether you're somebody
03:06Who
03:07In 1984
03:09Were screaming
03:11To the rafters
03:13Popping
03:14Going
03:14Fanning out for the guy
03:15Or you're the guy
03:16In 2025
03:16Who
03:17Has mixed emotions today
03:18Because of some of the things
03:19That have happened
03:20In the last
03:20Say 10 to 15 years
03:22Of Hulk Hogan's life
03:23It really
03:24He's somebody
03:25Who really
03:25Generates
03:26Conversation and buzz
03:28On all ends of the spectrum
03:29This episode
03:31Of the show
03:32Is going to be a little bit
03:32Different from everything
03:33I usually do
03:33Because I don't usually
03:34We've seen many wrestlers
03:36Come and go
03:37In the time
03:37Unfortunately
03:38And it's never a happy thing
03:39It's always a very somber
03:40Experience
03:41But this one hit me
03:42A little bit differently
03:43And I think
03:44I hope in this episode
03:45I'll be able to explain why
03:46For me as a wrestling fan
03:48My fandom came from
03:50My dad introducing me
03:51To this sport
03:52I was very young
03:53I can remember going
03:54To the Philadelphia Spectrum
03:55I was there the night
03:56That Superfly Jimmy Snooker
03:58Was in the yellow t-shirt
03:59With the tassels
04:01Hanging off it
04:01When he jumped the guardrail
04:02To help out the Tonga Kid
04:03Against Roddy Piper
04:04And Cowboy Bob Orton
04:06Like that was my first
04:07Introduction to wrestling
04:08I'll never forget that night
04:09Leaving the spectrum
04:10And watching some guy
04:11Dressed up like Roddy Piper
04:12Beat the living snot
04:13Out of some guy
04:14Walking out
04:15Because he talked trash
04:15About Roddy Piper
04:16I was drawn in immediately
04:18But I didn't actually
04:19That wasn't the first thing
04:21That really popped my attention
04:22What popped my attention was
04:23Without going into detail
04:25I had a family member
04:26Who was in a hospital
04:28Getting a procedure done
04:29And while I was in the waiting room
04:30As a small child
04:31My father and I
04:32Were watching wrestling
04:33On the television
04:34At the hospital
04:34And they had on
04:35January 23rd 1984
04:37This larger than life character
04:40Hulk Hogan
04:41Challenging the Iron Sheik
04:43For the WWF
04:44At the time
04:45World Heavyweight Championship
04:46Now as a kid
04:47I don't know anything
04:47I don't know the back story
04:49I don't know how we got there
04:50I don't know who these people are
04:51What I know is
04:52Is I'm watching this TV screen
04:54No music
04:55No entrance music
04:56None of that real American stuff
04:57And for those who are
04:58Big Hogan fans
04:59Know that that wasn't even
05:00His first entrance song
05:01Tiger was before that
05:04And he actually had
05:04Some things in between
05:05But just watching this
05:08Larger than life character
05:09Walk through the curtain
05:10And just explode
05:12And the charisma
05:14The personality
05:15Immediately like gripped you
05:16You could not take your eyes
05:19Off this guy
05:19And then here's this Iron Sheik
05:20Now even as a little kid
05:22At the time
05:22I'll never forget
05:22Like I didn't understand
05:23Why he was wearing the outfit
05:24He was wearing
05:25I was a little little guy
05:27I was born in 76
05:29For anybody who knows
05:30Anything about me
05:30So obviously I'm very young
05:31At the time
05:32I didn't understand
05:33What the Iron Sheik stood for
05:35I didn't understand
05:35The geopolitical situation
05:37Going on in the world
05:38At the time
05:38I didn't understand any of that
05:39What I knew was
05:40Here was the manager
05:41Classy Freddy Blassie
05:43All flashy with this guy
05:45In this like
05:46Looked like a giant bathrobe
05:47Which was ridiculous to me
05:49Going against this guy
05:50Who like had huge muscles
05:51And he just looked like
05:53Man nobody could touch him
05:54And I remember
05:55You know
05:56I was confused
05:57The match
05:58If you go back and look at it
06:00It's only like 5 minutes
06:0143 seconds long
06:01Something like that
06:02When you go back and watch it
06:03You know
06:04Hogan dominates for the majority
06:05Of the match
06:06Sheik gets a little bit
06:07Of offense in at one point
06:08Does a
06:08Like a side suplex
06:10At one point
06:10Some shots
06:12Some chokes
06:12Kicks to the back
06:14And puts him into the camel clutch
06:15And then that's where
06:16Hogan does the thing
06:17Where he's pointing the fingers
06:18And he pulls him up
06:20And he
06:20You know
06:21Starts to stand up
06:22Out of the camel clutch
06:23And I remember hearing
06:24On commentary
06:25I believe it was
06:25Gorilla Monsoon
06:26Saying you know
06:26Once he got his knees up
06:28He's like
06:28That breaks the effect
06:29Of the hold
06:29And I remember
06:30He stood up
06:30And he backs the Sheik
06:31Into the turnbuckle
06:32Falls on the ground
06:33Shakes it off
06:34Hits the ropes
06:35And drops his leg
06:36And wins the
06:37WWF Heavyweight Championship
06:38And they presented
06:39With the belt
06:39And I just remember
06:40How special it was
06:41For me to see
06:42This guy celebrating
06:43With this green
06:44And gold belt
06:46I've always thought
06:47That was like
06:47The ugliest belt
06:48Ever once I understood
06:49What was going on
06:49In the wrestling world
06:50But in hindsight
06:51At the moment
06:52When I saw it
06:52I thought it was amazing
06:53Then they did
06:54The interview afterwards
06:55And I saw
06:56These people celebrating
06:57It was like
06:57Andre the Giant
06:58And Gene Okerlund
06:59One of the ones
07:00I thought was the funniest
07:01They had
07:01Rocky Johnson
07:03And Ivan Putzky
07:04Were there
07:04And I'll never forget
07:05Them popping the top
07:05Of the one bottle
07:06Of champagne
07:06And pouring it down
07:07The tuxedo
07:08Of Gene Okerlund
07:09I thought it was
07:09So hilarious
07:10They did stuff
07:11With his parents
07:12His mother and father
07:12Were there
07:13And it was so real to me
07:15Of course as a child
07:16First time really getting
07:17Any kind of understanding
07:18Of professional wrestling
07:19I had no idea
07:20What a work was
07:21I was so happy
07:23I was sucked in
07:24That was it
07:25I became
07:26The huge wrestling fanatic
07:30That I am today
07:30Because of Hulk Hogan
07:32Now look
07:33I've been going around
07:34And around about this
07:34With people today
07:35And I'm not going to
07:35This is where
07:36Maybe it's a blessing
07:37To have a podcast
07:38And not always have
07:39Live interaction
07:40With other people
07:41Because I don't want to have
07:42A back and forth
07:42About this with people
07:43I want people to understand
07:44My perspective
07:44That's all this is
07:45This is my perspective
07:46I understand
07:48That everybody is influenced
07:50By somebody else
07:50Hulk Hogan himself
07:51Would often reference
07:52How Dusty Rhodes
07:53And Superstar Billy Graham
07:54Were huge influences on him
07:56I get that
07:57But I need people
07:59To understand my thought process
08:00We had Superstar Billy Graham
08:02We had Dusty Rhodes
08:03Ric Flair
08:04Harley Race
08:05Bruno San Martino
08:06One of the most successful draws
08:07In the history of professional wrestling
08:08I'll even go down the line
08:10Of Vern Gagne
08:10Who was on mainstream television
08:12For a while
08:12Freddie Blassie
08:13Mainstream television
08:14We had people
08:16Who were at the top of the card
08:18In every major promotion
08:19Around the world
08:20And none of them
08:22At any point in time
08:23Were able to do
08:25What Hulk Hogan did
08:26Now
08:26I understand
08:28A lot of what Hulk Hogan did
08:29Was manufactured
08:30Through the promotional skills
08:31Of Vince McMahon
08:32I will never say
08:33That Hogan could have done it
08:35On his own without Vince
08:35Or that Vince could have done it
08:36Without Hogan
08:37Heck there are stories out there
08:38About how Vince McMahon
08:39Had Dusty Rhodes in mind
08:41To be Hulk Hogan
08:41And that that didn't work out
08:43You can't convince me
08:44That had Dusty Rhodes
08:46Left the NWA
08:47And gone to the WWF
08:48And Vince made him
08:49The rocket ship
08:50That that would have been sustainable
08:51If for no other reason
08:53Look at Dusty Rhodes'
08:54Creative genius
08:55That is who he became
08:56He wouldn't have wanted
08:58To be in that spot
08:58For that long duration of time
09:00You know
09:00It's certainly not at that age
09:01His body
09:02And the longevity
09:03That he had left
09:04I mean look at his career
09:05In the NWA
09:06Let's see
09:07Starrcade 87
09:09I believe it is
09:09When he beats
09:10Lex Luger
09:11For the United States Championship
09:12Last major major thing
09:14I think I remember him ever doing
09:15In terms of like
09:17In the NWA
09:18Going to WWE
09:19Or WWF at the time
09:21He had his feud
09:22With Ted DiBiase
09:23He had a feud
09:23With the Macho Man
09:24Randy Savage
09:25And the Big Boss Man
09:27Beyond that
09:28Not a lot
09:29Really not a lot
09:30And then you're talking
09:31About like 1989
09:321990
09:32And that's pretty much it
09:34Did he have a one-off
09:34Here and there
09:35And show up in TNA
09:36For a little while
09:37Some stuff at WCW
09:38Towards the end
09:38With Ric Flair
09:39And David Flair
09:41And stuff like that
09:41Of course he did
09:42But Dusty Rhodes
09:43I don't believe
09:44Had the longevity
09:44That Hulk Hogan
09:45Or would have had
09:46The longevity
09:47Hulk Hogan did
09:47Now back to Hulk Hogan
09:49Hulk Hogan
09:51If
09:52For people who talk
09:54About how Hogan
09:55Is just the byproduct
09:56Of Vince McMahon
09:57Not the case
09:57Vince couldn't have done
09:58What he did with Hogan
09:59With anybody else
10:00It wasn't just about the body
10:01It was about the charisma
10:03The talking
10:04It was about
10:05The real American
10:07Language
10:08The verbiage
10:09The 80s
10:10Where you've got
10:11A cold war
10:12That was still
10:13Very much alive
10:13In 1984
10:14You've got the
10:16Iran-Contra scandal
10:17Going on
10:17And you've got this
10:18Over the top
10:19Red, white, and blue
10:20Star-spangled baby face
10:22Who is the poster boy
10:24For World Wrestling
10:25Federation at the time
10:26And there is nobody
10:28Who could have
10:29Pulled that
10:29Even the music
10:30Again
10:30Starting out with
10:31With Eye of the Tiger
10:34And then transitioning
10:35Eventually
10:35He had a little bit
10:37Of Cyndi Lauper
10:38Influence for the
10:38Hot Minute
10:39And then going into
10:40The real American
10:41Which by the way
10:42Was originally made
10:42For Barry Windham
10:43And Mike Rotunda
10:44The US Express
10:45And then they quickly
10:46Realized that it
10:47Was going to do better
10:47For Hulk Hogan
10:48That it's a song
10:49That he's become
10:49Synonymous with
10:50Wasn't even intended
10:51To be his
10:51But it rounded out
10:53The package perfectly
10:54And then you think
10:55About his career
10:56You know
10:57Whether it's
10:58The
10:58Before the big boom
11:00Wrestling people
11:01Like Big John Stud
11:03Brutus the Barber Beefcake
11:04Well Brutus Beefcake
11:06At the time
11:06Still with
11:07Johnny Valentine
11:08Not the Barber yet
11:09People like
11:10King Kong Bundy
11:11Ken Patera
11:12I was at the Spectrum
11:13I saw him wrestle
11:13Terry Funk
11:14I saw him wrestle
11:15Adorable Adrian Adonis
11:17Those feuds
11:18Though not the
11:20Marquee ones
11:20You hear people
11:21Talk about
11:21And reflect on
11:22When you reflect on
11:22Hulk Hogan's
11:23Career
11:23Were just as important
11:24In building the base
11:26The people who
11:26Did not want to
11:27See Hogan lose
11:28You get to
11:29Wrestlemania 1
11:30Wrestlemania 1
11:31Obviously not as
11:32Successful without
11:33Hulk Hogan
11:33I get it
11:34Mainstream stars
11:35Being added to the
11:36Show helped put it
11:37Over and garner
11:38A bigger audience
11:39Which is why
11:39It was as successful
11:41As it was
11:41I get all that
11:42But none of that
11:42Happens without Hulk Hogan
11:43You go to
11:44Wrestlemania 2
11:45You do this
11:46Conglomerate crazy
11:47Idea of three cities
11:48In one night
11:49New York, Chicago
11:50And Los Angeles
11:51And Hulk Hogan
11:53Wrestles in a steel
11:53Cage against
11:54King Kong
11:54Bundy after
11:55Having his ribs
11:56Destroyed on
11:57Saturday night's
11:57Main event by
11:58Bundy and Don
12:00Morocco and Bobby
12:01Heenan
12:01And he's got
12:02Hillbilly gym in
12:03His corner
12:03He's got the ribs
12:04All taped up
12:05And all this stuff
12:05That was fantastic
12:06And it started to
12:07And it started to
12:07Really build
12:08Hogan's
12:09What would
12:09Eventually become
12:10His legacy
12:10You get to
12:11Wrestlemania 3
12:12And it was
12:13Really started to
12:14Get on people's
12:14Minds where like
12:15Here's this guy
12:15Andre the Giant
12:16Who they would
12:17Claim was undefeated
12:18For 15 years
12:19Which for the
12:20People tuning into
12:21This show
12:21If you're a die
12:22Hard fan as long
12:23As I have been
12:23You know as well
12:24As I do
12:24Andre had lost
12:25Many times
12:26You want to talk
12:27About maybe not
12:27Losing battle royals
12:28I've even seen him
12:29Lose battle royals
12:30On Coliseum home
12:31Video to Big John
12:32Stud when he and
12:33Hulk Hogan are
12:33Are both babyfaces
12:35In 1984-85-ish
12:37And they're trying
12:37To put each other out
12:38And Stud comes over
12:40And knocks them both out
12:41So no matter
12:41What way you cut it
12:42Andre was not
12:43Undefeated in any way
12:44Shape or form
12:44They try to convince
12:45You with their own
12:46Narrative that he
12:46Was never body slammed
12:47Even though we've
12:48Seen a million people
12:48Do it from Baba
12:50To Harley Race
12:51To Haku
12:54Who was King Tonga
12:55At the time
12:55And stuff like that
12:56But they built it up
12:57As if Andre was
12:58This unstoppable force
13:00Who had not been
13:00Defeated in 15 years
13:02Versus Hulk Hogan
13:03The guy who had been
13:05Champion since January
13:061984
13:06It was like the
13:07Three year anniversary
13:08They did a whole
13:09Set up on Piper's Pit
13:10The biggest talking
13:11Platform in wrestling
13:12At the time
13:13And probably the
13:14Greatest of all time
13:15You have Andre
13:17Come out to receive
13:18A trophy
13:19For 15 years
13:20Being undefeated
13:21And you know
13:23You shake
13:24You have Hulk Hogan
13:25Come out and
13:26Shake and
13:26Celebrate with him
13:27You have Hulk Hogan
13:28Come out to celebrate
13:29Three years being
13:29World champion
13:30Also receiving a trophy
13:31Hogan's trophy
13:32Bigger than Andre's
13:33The little things
13:34That they put into
13:35The storyline
13:35You have
13:36The next week
13:37You have Roddy Piper
13:38And Jesse Ventura
13:39Arguing over how
13:40Jesse thinks there's
13:41Dissension between
13:41Hogan and Andre
13:42Leading to the
13:43Following week
13:44Jesse saying he'll
13:45Produce Andre
13:46If Piper can produce
13:48Hogan
13:48They bring Hogan out
13:49They bring Andre out
13:50And here comes Bobby
13:51Heenan with Andre
13:52The Giant
13:52Turning heel
13:53And issuing the
13:54Challenge for
13:55Wrestlemania 3
13:56Leading to one of
13:57The most iconic
13:58Moments in wrestling
13:59History
13:59The one that
13:59Everybody always
14:00Talks about
14:00The body slam
14:01Heard around the
14:02World where he
14:02Body slams Andre
14:03The Giant
14:03Hits the leg drop
14:04And defeats Andre
14:06Clean in the ring
14:07After what a lot
14:09Of people would
14:09Probably say was
14:10One of Andre's
14:10Better matches
14:11Really quite frankly
14:12I get it
14:13When you're looking
14:14At people like
14:14Will Ospreay
14:15And Ricochet today
14:15It's really difficult
14:16To say how wonderful
14:17A match is that
14:18Andre The Giant
14:18Had but
14:19When you understand
14:20The physical situation
14:21Andre was in
14:22It was a great match
14:23For Andre
14:24Hogan looked solid
14:25In the match
14:26They did a lot
14:26Inside the ring
14:27Outside of the ring
14:28And the lure
14:30Of the fact that
14:31Hogan didn't know
14:31If Andre was
14:32Going to let him
14:33Win and things
14:34Of that nature
14:34It just added
14:35To the mystique
14:36Of the match
14:36We all found out
14:37About later
14:38The size of the
14:39Audience
14:3993,173 people
14:41If I remember
14:41That number
14:42Off the top of my
14:42Head
14:42That's how much
14:43Of a junkie
14:43I am
14:43Trying to remember
14:44All this stuff
14:44Off the top of my
14:44Head
14:45Was just a spectacle
14:47In the Pontiac
14:48Silverdome
14:49In Michigan
14:49You go from that
14:51You go into
14:51The summertime
14:52You see where
14:54There's some teasing
14:55He had a feud
14:56With Randy Savage
14:57Which was interesting
15:00And clearly
15:00Was laying the
15:01Groundwork
15:01For the future
15:02Then after
15:03Savage turned
15:04Babyface
15:04You see Savage
15:06Being attacked
15:07By the Honky Tonk
15:08Man and
15:09The Heart Foundation
15:11Elizabeth going
15:12To get help
15:13And bringing Hogan
15:13Out
15:13And it's the first
15:14Time you see
15:15The union of
15:16Hogan and Savage
15:17As the mega powers
15:18Leading up to
15:20Wrestlemania 4
15:21You get to
15:21Wrestlemania 4
15:22Where Ted DiBiase
15:24Tried at
15:25The main event
15:26Not Saturday
15:27Night's main event
15:27Many people get that wrong
15:28February 5th 1988
15:29I remember that date
15:30Very clearly
15:30It was a Friday night
15:32They did the main event
15:33Hogan vs. Andre
15:34The rematch
15:35Prior to that
15:36I jumped over
15:37The fact that
15:37First Survivor Series
15:39Where Andre the Giant
15:40Was the sole survivor
15:41Over Hulk Hogan's team
15:43That's a big deal
15:44You got to
15:45Wrestlemania 4
15:45Hogan and Andre
15:47Get a buy in the first
15:48Round of the tournament
15:48To crown a new world champion
15:49Because of the
15:50Vacating the title
15:50Because of selling the title
15:52To DiBiase
15:52After Andre
15:54Controversially beat
15:55Hogan with the referee
15:56Counting a pin
15:57Even though Hogan's
15:58Shoulders were up
15:59Because it was two
15:59Referees
16:00And for you diehards
16:01You know everything
16:02I'm talking about
16:02But you have to
16:03Think about each one
16:04Of these things
16:04As you go through
16:05Hogan's career
16:05To understand why
16:06I have the perspective
16:07I do on his
16:08Untimely passing
16:09You go through
16:10Wrestlemania 4
16:11You crown Macho Man
16:12You solidify the
16:13Mega Powers
16:14You go into
16:14SummerSlam
16:15First ever SummerSlam
16:16Mega Powers vs.
16:17The Megabucks
16:18Where you see the seeds
16:19Planted for dissension
16:20In the Mega Powers
16:20When Hogan hoist
16:22Miss Elizabeth
16:22Up on Savage's shoulder
16:24Gives her a hug
16:25And things like that
16:26And she's standing there
16:27In her red underwear
16:28With a gold blouse
16:30And what not
16:30And it was controversial
16:32At the time
16:32You get to the next
16:33Survivor Series
16:34Again dissension
16:35With Hogan and Savage
16:36Over Elizabeth
16:37You get to the
16:37Mega Powers explode
16:38On Saturday night's
16:39Main event
16:39That the following year
16:41Leading to Wrestlemania 5
16:42Versus Savage
16:43In Trump Plaza
16:44For the second year in a row
16:45And like as you go
16:47Through the years
16:47Wrestlemania 6
16:48Comes around
16:49And you've got
16:49You know
16:50The Ultimate Warrior
16:51The Intercontinental Champion
16:52Facing Hulk Hogan
16:53The World Champion
16:54You have that huge match
16:55Where Hogan puts the Warrior
16:56Over clean
16:56In the middle of the ring
16:57And it's clear
16:59If you watch the video
17:00How the fans were just
17:01In awe of Hogan
17:02Shock when he lost
17:03And the Warrior
17:05Never stuck
17:05You take the title
17:07Off Warrior
17:07Put it on
17:07Sgt. Slaughter
17:08WrestleMania 7
17:09You need an All-American
17:10To come in
17:11And take it from this
17:12Iraqi sympathizer
17:13Who better than Hulk Hogan
17:14He comes in
17:15Regains the championship
17:16At WrestleMania 7
17:17He goes to the match
17:19At SummerSlam
17:20The match made in hell
17:22Teaming with the Warrior
17:23With Sid Justice
17:24As the referee
17:25Against the Three Faces of Fear
17:26You see him win that match
17:28And as you just keep progressing
17:29You get all the way
17:30To WrestleMania 8
17:31Actually technically
17:32You get to Survivor Series
17:34Ric Flair coming in
17:35Costing him the World Championship
17:36Against The Undertaker
17:37Rematch Tuesday in Texas
17:39Controversial finish
17:41When he regains the title
17:42Stripped of the title
17:43The championship being put
17:45On the line at the Royal Rumble
17:46Being eliminated
17:47A third from the end
17:49He's a third place finisher
17:51Sid Justice throws him out
17:53He grabs his hand
17:54And Flair throws Justice out
17:55Giving Flair the WWF Championship
17:57We all thought we would see
17:59Flair and Hogan at Mania
18:00The big dream match
18:02Did not happen
18:03We got Hogan and Justice instead
18:04As the main event
18:06Ended with a huge shock return
18:09The Ultimate Warrior
18:10After several months of being gone
18:11After being fired
18:12After SummerSlam's melee
18:13Where he held Vince up for money
18:14Comes out to save the Warrior
18:16Or save Hogan from Papa Shango
18:18And Sid's attack
18:19At the end of the show
18:20All the way through
18:21WrestleMania 8
18:22Hogan was just unstoppable
18:23And really
18:24He is the attraction
18:27Even though there's other people
18:28Put on better matches
18:29Like no one will ever argue
18:30That Steamboat and Savage
18:31WrestleMania 3
18:32Isn't the best match on the card
18:33But that's not why people
18:34Paid their ticket money
18:35They paid for Hogan Andre
18:37Even when you go forward
18:38So you go from
18:39WrestleMania 8
18:40WrestleMania 8 is where we see
18:41You know Bret Hart
18:42Really starts getting put on the mat
18:43By Roddy Piper
18:43Winning the Intercontinental title
18:44You see the Savage Flair match
18:46For the World Championship
18:47Over the summer
18:48The Warrior gets involved
18:49In the World Title picture again
18:50You see Savage lose the championship
18:52Back to Flair
18:53And then Vince decides
18:55He needs a new superstar
18:56He puts the championship
18:57On Bret Hart
18:58Ric Flair ends up
18:59Leaving the territory
19:00Bret Hart goes into a feud
19:01With Yokozuna
19:02After the Royal Rumble
19:03Heading into Mania 9
19:04And Hogan decides to come back
19:06He went off to film some things
19:07For those who are fans
19:08Of his old stuff
19:09I thought Rocky 3
19:10Obviously is a fantastic movie
19:11But not much of a role there
19:13I actually thought
19:14No Holds Barbed
19:15Was pretty good
19:15For what it was
19:16Suburban Commando
19:17Mr. Nanny
19:18He's doing films
19:19Comes back
19:21Forms the Mega Maniacs
19:23With Brutus Beefcake
19:24To take on Money Inc
19:25At WrestleMania 9
19:25We get that shock
19:26Finish to WrestleMania 9
19:28Where Bret Hart
19:29Loses the championship
19:30To Yokozuna
19:31And Hogan comes out
19:32And Bret Hart
19:32Sends him into the ring
19:33To accept a challenge
19:35On the spot
19:36For the World Championship
19:36Where he regains the WWF title
19:38Goes to the first king of the ring
19:42Pay-per-view
19:43Not first king of the ring
19:43But first king of the ring
19:44Pay-per-view
19:45And loses the championship
19:46Back to Yokozuna
19:47And he is out of WWE
19:48Transitions back into film
19:50Thunder in Paradise
19:51Doing a whole lot of things
19:52Like that
19:52And eventually
19:53Will find his way
19:54Into WCW
19:55They do the whole
19:55Ticker tape parade
19:56Where he signs his contract
19:57Gets a match with Flair
19:58To start
19:59Kind of messed up
20:00If you think about it
20:00No record in WCW
20:02But you get a world title match
20:03Right away
20:03Shaq in attendance
20:05Wins the WCW championship
20:06And look
20:07I could go on and on
20:08And on all day long
20:08About how this progresses
20:09You all know
20:10Whether it's
20:11The number of times
20:12He wins the WCW title
20:13The formation of the NWO
20:15Which is groundbreaking
20:16And changes the wrestling business
20:18Forever
20:18Whether it's
20:19You know
20:20And go through the litany
20:21Of things that Hogan's
20:22Done in this career
20:23I sat at the Philadelphia Spectrum
20:25On closed circuit television
20:26Watching Wrestlemania 1
20:27I watched that match
20:29You know
20:30I don't want to say in person
20:31But you understand what I'm saying
20:31There was a live element
20:32To the feel
20:33I've met Hulk Hogan
20:34I was at SummerSlam
20:36The year that he faced
20:37Earthquake
20:38And I went to the Marriott Hotel
20:40First time I got to meet him
20:41Face to face
20:42He came in
20:43He told us he needed to go upstairs
20:44To his hotel room
20:45And say goodnight to his kids
20:46And he would come back
20:47And sign autographs
20:48I kid you not
20:49He left
20:50My dad was like
20:50He's not coming back
20:5120 minutes later
20:52He came back down that elevator
20:53He came out
20:54And he signed autographs
20:55For every single kid
20:56In the lobby
20:56Along with Brutus Beefcake
20:58Who was out due to injury
20:59At the time
21:00Who had blonde hair
21:01At the time
21:01Who also signed autographs
21:03For everybody
21:03Really personable
21:06Welcoming guy
21:06I was fortunate enough
21:10To fan out
21:11Every time
21:11There was a big moment
21:12X8
21:13When he faced The Rock
21:14One of the most iconic moments
21:16In wrestling history
21:16WrestleMania 21
21:18When he saves Eugene
21:19From Muhammad Hassan
21:20I had my buddy
21:22And I'm going to give him
21:22A shout out
21:23In this episode
21:23Because I actually suspect
21:24He may tune into this
21:25Because of what we're talking about
21:26My buddy Mark
21:27Who was in my living room
21:29Watching Wrestlemania
21:30Wearing his button up polo shirt
21:32For the job we worked
21:33At the time
21:33Who literally ripped
21:34The buttons off his shirt
21:35Watching Hogan come out
21:36To save Eugene
21:37Because we were so excited
21:39About the return of Hulk Hogan
21:40Going into the ring
21:41Cleaning house
21:42Leading to that match
21:43Over the summer
21:43With Shawn Michaels
21:44Which there's a whole lot
21:46Of conversation about
21:46Don't want to go down
21:47Any of those roads right now
21:49But just saying
21:49You see the legend killer match
21:52With Randy Orton
21:52Solid stuff to me
21:54The emergence of the NWA
21:56And WWE
21:56Was solid in my opinion
21:58When Hogan and Nash and Hall
21:59First came in
22:00Went to crap afterwards
22:01But that's not Hogan's fault
22:03Seeing him win the championship
22:04Off of Triple H
22:05At Backlash
22:07Very exciting for me
22:08I was shocked
22:10When Brock Lesnar
22:10Defeated him
22:11With a bear hug
22:12Of all things
22:13And he was bleeding
22:14From the mouth
22:14And then just went away
22:15Through the Mr. America
22:17Period of time
22:18Where he came in
22:19Dressed in like
22:19The mask and everything
22:21Like there's been
22:22So many things
22:22That I've gotten to witness
22:24I was in
22:25The Leacor Center
22:28For Hulk Hogan's
22:29Last match
22:30Against Sting
22:31For TNA Wrestling
22:32And you know
22:34And I was there with
22:35Again a shout out
22:36To one of my good friends
22:36Randy
22:37Who was there with me
22:38We won free tickets
22:39On a radio call-in thing
22:40We went there
22:41We got VIP tickets
22:42We were sitting two rows over
22:43From Kurt Angle's wife and kids
22:44And other VPs
22:46That were there
22:46I believe Terry Taylor
22:48Was there at the time
22:48All these guys were there
22:49And it was like
22:49I was like fanning out
22:50Because there was so
22:51As many people sitting
22:52In the seats beside us
22:53Because they only sold out
22:54One half of the arena
22:55But I got to see that
22:57You know it was always
22:58A special memory for me
22:58Because I got to spend time
22:59With my buddies Randy
23:00Who I didn't even think
23:01Was a huge wrestling fan
23:02At the time
23:02And now knowing what I know
23:04That that was Hulk Hogan's
23:05Last match
23:06I got to share that moment
23:06With someone who's
23:07A very special friend of mine
23:08All that
23:10And look
23:11Do we really want to talk
23:12About all the other stuff
23:14Look Hogan knows best
23:15Probably wasn't a good idea
23:16For him and his family
23:17His son's issues
23:19With the car accident
23:21His horrible divorce situation
23:23The tape being leaked
23:24It never should have been leaked
23:25In terms of his private adult life
23:27In terms of the verbiage
23:29He used in one of the tapes
23:31I will never
23:32Ever condone
23:34Justify
23:35Or pardon
23:36The use of certain words
23:38I've always said
23:38If you're going to say
23:39Those things in your private life
23:40You'll slip up
23:41And say them in your public life
23:42If you just never say
23:43Ignorant stuff
23:44In your private life
23:45You don't have to worry about
23:46If people are taping you or not
23:47Should never have come out
23:48Does it tarnish his legacy?
23:50Probably
23:50Does all his
23:51His constant
23:52Embellishing
23:54And telling stories
23:55Does that tarnish the legacy?
23:56Maybe some
23:57Him getting booed
23:58Out of the arena
23:59At the Netflix premiere
24:00The last time we got to see him
24:02In anything WWE related
24:03He gets booed out of the building
24:04Is that going to affect
24:06Probably
24:06Probably a little bit
24:08I was thrilled to hear
24:09He was announcing
24:10Real American Freestyle Wrestling
24:11I was really excited
24:12To see him back
24:13Into some kind of promotion
24:14Of some kind
24:15Doing something of substance
24:16I really was
24:17All that
24:19And that's
24:20What is that?
24:20That's about 24 minutes
24:21Of me running my mouth
24:22To come back to this
24:23Hulk Hogan
24:25Is the reason
24:26I'm on this
24:28Podcast
24:29Right now
24:30It doesn't matter
24:31That there was a Dusty Rhodes
24:32That there was a
24:33Superstar Billy Graham
24:34Or Bruno Sammartino
24:35Those people
24:36Didn't bring my dad
24:37Into the business
24:38The way Hulk Hogan did
24:39Those people
24:40Didn't get my dad
24:40To bring me down
24:41To the spectrum
24:41It doesn't matter
24:43If after Hulk Hogan
24:44There was a Macho Man
24:45Randy Savage
24:46Or Ricky Steamboat
24:47Or Ric Flair
24:47You know
24:48Ric Flair was around
24:49Before Hogan
24:49But never attained
24:51The level of success
24:52And fame
24:52And crossover appeal
24:53That Hulk Hogan did
24:54Until recently
24:55Let's be honest
24:56Ric Flair being Ric Flair
24:57Who he is now
24:58Is much more recent
24:59It's not something
25:00That was there
25:00The whole time
25:01The other thing too
25:02Is if you think about it
25:03He is the one
25:04Who really
25:05I get it
25:05There's been wrestlers
25:06All through the 60s
25:07And 70s
25:07To transition in the film
25:08But he is the guy
25:10Who really opens the door
25:11For people like
25:11The Rock
25:12And John Cena
25:13And Batista
25:14To go into Hollywood
25:15There is so much
25:16In the wrestling industry
25:17To this here
25:18Directly as a result
25:19Of the efforts
25:20Of Hulk Hogan
25:21Period
25:21I get it
25:23Vince is the promoter
25:24And I appreciate
25:24Everything Vince did
25:25Even though he is
25:26A dirtball scumbag
25:28Okay
25:29I'm not here to justify
25:30Vince either
25:30However
25:31You cannot
25:33Negate
25:34What happened
25:36In real time
25:36In real time
25:37In 1984
25:38I lost my flipping mind
25:40January 23rd
25:41When I saw Hogan win
25:42And in 1987
25:44When I saw
25:46Andre throw the challenge down
25:47I lost my mind
25:48All over again
25:49When Hogan came out
25:51And accepted
25:52Yokozuna's challenge
25:53And won the title
25:53We can look back at it now
25:55And talk about
25:55What a train wreck it was
25:56In 1993
25:57When that happened
25:58That place
25:59You watch the video
26:00You show me people
26:01Being upset about it
26:02That place came unglued
26:03When Hulk Hogan
26:04Won the world championship
26:05We can complain about it now
26:06Because hindsight
26:07It's always 20-20
26:08At that moment
26:09We didn't know
26:10That Hogan was never
26:11Going to do the favor
26:11For Bret Hart
26:12We didn't know
26:13He was going to be there
26:14For a couple months
26:15Go over to New Japan
26:16Talk about New Japan's championship
26:18Being more valuable
26:18And more important
26:19We didn't know
26:20Any of that stuff
26:21What we knew was
26:22Our real American hero
26:23Had come back to the company
26:24And defeated this
26:25Foreign invader
26:26Who oddly was Samoan
26:28And not a foreign invader
26:29But whatever
26:29Had defeated this guy
26:31Brought the championship
26:32Back to WWE
26:32When Hogan went to WCW
26:35Lost my mind
26:36Seeing him beat Ric Flair
26:36When he turned
26:37And became the leader
26:38Of the NWO
26:39I was furious
26:41My dad sitting in the living room
26:43Telling me how he would have
26:44Thrown paper balls
26:45And toilet paper
26:46At the ring himself
26:47If he was there
26:47Starcade against Sting
26:51Getting so irritated
26:52At the
26:53What was supposed to be
26:54A fast count
26:55That made it look like
26:55Hogan beat Sting clean
26:56In like four minutes
26:58And it turns out to be trash
26:59And it kind of destroys
27:01All the momentum
27:01That WCW had
27:02Watching Goldberg
27:04Beat Hulk Hogan
27:05For the world championship
27:06Was particularly inspiring
27:07I've re-watched that
27:08A million times
27:09In my lifetime
27:10Watching the end of
27:12Backlash with Triple H
27:13Watching the match
27:14With The Rock
27:14I've watched that
27:15So many times
27:15I can't even begin to tell you
27:16I am here
27:19Because of Hulk Hogan
27:20And for those of you
27:21Who know me very well
27:22There is not one day
27:23Of my life
27:24That I am not touched
27:26Or influenced
27:26In some way
27:27Shape or form
27:27Whether it be
27:28Popping on YouTube
27:30And watching a million videos
27:31Or scrolling through
27:33The news of the day
27:33Wrestling is something
27:34That is in my blood
27:35It is inundated in my life
27:37It has led to
27:38More memories
27:39Than I could possibly
27:40Share with you
27:41It has led to
27:42Very good things
27:43And very bad things
27:44You know
27:44Driving family members
27:46Crazy when
27:46I make wrestling
27:47More important
27:48Than other
27:48Familial things
27:49Sometimes
27:50When I probably shouldn't
27:51Wrestling is a part
27:53Of who I am
27:53As a character
27:54As a person
27:55Give you a really
27:56Personal story
27:57In 8th grade
27:58Telling my father
27:59That I wanted to
28:00Drop out of school
28:01To go become
28:01A professional wrestler
28:02And him driving me
28:03To the Allentown
28:05Samoans
28:06Training center
28:07And having
28:08Afa Sika
28:09And Captain Lou Albano
28:10Straighten my head out
28:11About how I had to
28:12Get my education first
28:13Before I became a wrestler
28:14I wanted to be a wrestler
28:15Because of Hulk Hogan
28:16And I did
28:18I went back to school
28:18And I finished high school
28:20And went to college
28:21And I'm now a doctor
28:22And that was because
28:23Of their advice
28:24But I wouldn't have
28:24Gotten their advice
28:25If I didn't become a fan
28:26Because of Hulk Hogan
28:29Hulk Hogan is why
28:31I have everything
28:33That I have
28:34In terms of fandom
28:35In 2022
28:37I had the distinct
28:39Honor and pleasure
28:40To walk to the ring
28:41For the first time
28:42Being led to the ring
28:43By three of my favorite
28:44Students I've ever had
28:45Balling my eyes out
28:47Inside
28:47And trying to suck it up
28:48On the outside
28:49Performing for my students
28:51In my school
28:52That I teach at
28:53Having a follow up
28:54Feud
28:55The following year
28:56Winning my first ever
28:57Championship
28:58At the time
28:58The Eisenhower
28:59Heavyweight Championship
29:00A championship named
29:01After the building
29:01That I work in
29:02All this stuff
29:04Precious stuff
29:06That happened in my life
29:07Could not have happened
29:08Without Hulk Hogan
29:10I'll never forget
29:11Halloween Havoc
29:12Sting
29:13Versus Mick Foley
29:15Cactus Jack
29:15Coal Miner's Glove
29:17On a Pole Match
29:17I'm sitting on the entry aisle
29:20And I reach over the barricade
29:21And I grab the tag team
29:22Championship from Barry
29:23Windham when he's
29:23Walking to the ring that night
29:24And I tried to grab the
29:26World Championship from
29:26Massachono
29:27And if you watch the video
29:28I'm the guy in the
29:29Green Penridge
29:30Green and white
29:31Letterman jacket
29:32With a new station
29:33Pizza hat on
29:34Who tries to grab his belt
29:36I get a nice little
29:36Camera shot in there
29:37When you watch the
29:39Episode in Nitro
29:40Where Nash and Hogan
29:41Are almost coming to blows
29:43I'm holding a poster up
29:44In Philadelphia
29:45That says
29:45NWO
29:46Nash's World Order
29:47Doug Dillinger
29:48Took my poster from me
29:4930 seconds after it was
29:51Spotlighted on Nitro
29:52I was there in
29:54New York City
29:56For Monday Night Raw
29:56To watch the
29:57123 Kid beat
29:58Razor Ramon
29:59And when they do that
30:00If you look up in the crowd
30:00At one point
30:01There's this kid
30:02In a Bret Hart
30:03Pink and white shirt
30:04With a camouflaged
30:06Military vest on
30:06That's me
30:07Me fanning out
30:09And guess what
30:09All of those things
30:10I just said
30:10Couldn't happen
30:11Without
30:12Hulk Hogan
30:14My son
30:16When he would
30:16Get excited
30:17To see his dad
30:18Get excited
30:19Whenever there's
30:19A big pop in the crowd
30:20I share it with my kid
30:21My daughters
30:22At different times
30:23Being so excited
30:24To share wrestling
30:25Related conversation
30:26With me
30:27Even my wife
30:28Who's not the biggest
30:29Wrestling fan in the world
30:30Knows what this sport
30:31Means to me
30:32All because
30:34Hulk Hogan
30:35Basically introduced me
30:37To it
30:37So on a day where
30:39Many shows are going
30:40To talk about the
30:41Specifics behind
30:42His untimely passing
30:43On a day where
30:44People are going
30:45To either
30:45Go completely
30:46Over the top
30:46Telling you how
30:47Much they love him
30:47Or go the other way
30:48And talk about how
30:49Much they dislike the guy
30:50Or why they're
30:51Mixed emotions
30:52Or any of that
30:52I can't do any of that
30:53I can only talk about
30:54One thing
30:55My opinion
30:56My perspective
30:58My perspective is
30:59There would be
31:01No professional wrestling
31:02In it's current form
31:03Without this man
31:04There would be
31:05No major superstars
31:07In Hollywood
31:08The way we have them
31:09Without this man
31:09There would be
31:10No Wrestlemania
31:12Now if we didn't
31:13Have this man
31:14Or any other
31:15Pay-per-view
31:15There would be
31:16No AEW
31:17There would be
31:17No TNA
31:18There would be
31:19No NXT
31:20The NWA would have
31:22Eventually gone away
31:23And folded
31:23They were losing money
31:24Hand over fist
31:25Anyways
31:26All of it
31:27Eventually would have
31:28Dwindled
31:28Vern Gagne
31:29Would have gone away
31:29World Class
31:30Would have gone away
31:31They all would have
31:31Gone away
31:32And the people
31:32Oh Vince killed
31:33The territory system
31:34No he didn't
31:35People hating on wrestling
31:38Because they didn't
31:38Understand how it works
31:40Is what was killing wrestling
31:41It took somebody
31:42With the personality
31:43To drive the fans
31:45Back into the arenas
31:46To bring people in
31:48And to draw them
31:48Into the storylines
31:50And to be able to
31:51Share the energy
31:51With the crowd
31:52To flex and pose
31:53After every match
31:54To tell you to train
31:55Say your prayers
31:56Eat your vitamins
31:57And eventually tell you
31:58To believe in yourself
31:58To get squashed
32:00By earthquake
32:01On the set
32:02Of the brother love show
32:03And have little kids
32:05Millions of them
32:05Sending in cards
32:06And letters
32:06To Hulk Hogan
32:07Asking him to get better
32:08Not knowing
32:09That it was a keyfabe injury
32:10Because kids didn't know
32:11What keyfabe was
32:12You know
32:13All that stuff
32:14Couldn't happen
32:15For people like me
32:16Without Hulk Hogan
32:18So listen
32:19We have lost
32:20Some incredible superstars
32:21Over the years
32:22And many of them
32:23Have hit me
32:23Like a ton of bricks
32:24Nothing hit me
32:25Like this
32:26He was born
32:27On August 10th
32:28My mother was born
32:29August 9th
32:30Same year
32:301953
32:31So oddly
32:32My mom
32:33Always appreciated
32:34Hulk Hogan
32:34And that was one
32:35Of the reasons
32:35Why she used to joke
32:36She was one day
32:36Older than Hulk Hogan
32:37It made it special
32:38To me
32:39It's just
32:41There's all these
32:41Little things
32:42Little things
32:42That made Hulk Hogan
32:43Very special to me
32:44Again
32:45Not excusing anything
32:46That he did
32:47That was controversial
32:48I'm not a judge
32:49I'm not going to say
32:51I'm the most spiritual
32:51Person in the world
32:52But I never thought
32:53It was my job
32:53To judge people
32:54I'm supposed to care
32:55About all people
32:56And that's the way
32:56I feel
32:57I care about the fact
32:58That I think the man
33:00Brought more positivity
33:01In the world
33:01Than he took negativity
33:02And brought that
33:03Into the world
33:03I really do
33:04Does it tip the scales
33:05Was he ever genuine
33:06In some of his apologies
33:07About certain things
33:08I don't know
33:09I wasn't there
33:09But many people
33:11Think he wasn't
33:11Great
33:11That's
33:12Hold that
33:13You are justified
33:15In feeling any way
33:16You feel
33:16But for me
33:17I can only speak
33:19To my experience
33:21My life
33:22Has been better
33:23Because of Hulk Hogan
33:25As silly as that sounds
33:26I'm a fan
33:27Just like many of you
33:29I'm a fan
33:30And I am who I am
33:31I love what I love
33:33I have a passion
33:34For this business
33:34I walk into a ring
33:36Whenever I get the chance
33:37Because of this man
33:39So unlike many other episodes
33:42That I've done
33:42This one is not gonna
33:44You know
33:44Be led into a whole bunch
33:45Of like the news of the day
33:46And other stuff
33:47This is the only story
33:48We're talking about
33:49I felt the need
33:50To put this out
33:51As early as I could
33:52Quite frankly
33:53I didn't put it up
33:53Earlier in the day
33:54Because I was honestly
33:55Too emotional to do so
33:56I drove home from my job today
33:58And was very emotional
33:59Driving home
34:00I had many friends
34:01Texting me
34:01Asked me if I was alright
34:02Asked me if I was gonna
34:03Be doing this episode
34:04Asked
34:05Just checking in on me
34:06Which I appreciate
34:07Every one of them
34:08If any of them
34:08Listen to this
34:08I appreciate you
34:09I do
34:09I love that you care enough
34:11To check in on me
34:11And realize
34:12That tells me
34:13That you know
34:14What this business means
34:16To me
34:16As an individual
34:17All the wrestlers
34:18I've met in my lifetime
34:19Again
34:19Wouldn't have met any of them
34:20If it wasn't for the influence
34:22Of Hulk Hogan
34:23And one last thing
34:24Before I go
34:25Before I wrap this up
34:26When you look at Hulk Hogan
34:28You wanna wonder
34:28Whether you should be
34:29How you should feel
34:30About his passing
34:31Think about the people
34:32Who are posting about him
34:33Right now
34:34Ric Flair
34:34One of the earliest posts
34:35Talking about how long
34:36They've been together
34:37And him being by his side
34:38Through his medical struggles
34:39Charlotte Flair
34:40Also sharing her condolences
34:42Triple H
34:42Put something out
34:43Right away
34:44And it was a very classy
34:46Way to respond
34:47Brutus Beefcake
34:48Ed Leslie
34:49You know
34:49The guy who on camera
34:50We often thought
34:51Was real life brothers
34:52Turns out they were
34:53Just good friends
34:53They actually have had
34:54A strained relationship
34:55The last several years
34:56Even he
34:56Putting out a very compassionate
34:58And very heartfelt
34:59Message to Hulk Hogan
35:01The Undertaker
35:02Who by no means
35:04Is the biggest fan
35:06Because he doesn't always
35:06Like everything that he did
35:07Also said his contributions
35:09To the business
35:10Are immeasurable
35:10And for that
35:11He's appreciative
35:12Thank you Hulk Hogan
35:12When you look at other people
35:14Kane was out today
35:16The Miz
35:16Matt Hardy
35:17John Cena
35:18People
35:19The nameless
35:20Sting
35:21Tony Schiavone
35:21Tony Schiavone
35:22Look I'll be honest with you
35:24He admitted that
35:24They were never friends
35:25But that he
35:26He definitely had
35:27A massive impact
35:28On the industry
35:29Christopher Daniels
35:30Adam Pierce
35:30You know
35:31It's like a who's who
35:32Of talent
35:34And that's just the ones
35:35That I know of
35:36From earlier today
35:37Prior to me recording
35:38This episode
35:38There's probably
35:38Thousands of more since
35:40I was on Facebook
35:41I saw people like
35:42Sean Stasiak
35:43Very emotional about it
35:45I saw Typhoon
35:48Or whatever you want to call him
35:49Tugboat
35:50Whatever
35:50Fred Ottman
35:52Who I'm friends with
35:52On Facebook
35:53Thank you for the ad
35:54By the way
35:54I saw him
35:55Very emotional about it
35:56This is a real situation
35:58That is affecting
35:59A lot of people
35:59Who are fans of the industry
36:01And I'm tired of hearing
36:02Just about
36:02Oh the industry
36:03Wouldn't be the same
36:03And oh he's
36:04You know
36:05We have
36:05It's more than that
36:07It's the emotion
36:08He brought us
36:09Our passion
36:10He gave us a way
36:11To love this
36:12Even if you were
36:13An NWA person
36:14Back in the day
36:15And WWF was like
36:16The rival territory
36:17Right
36:18I get all that
36:19But the NWA
36:20Was never going to be
36:22What WWE is
36:24Because they didn't
36:25Promote like that
36:26Again
36:27No matter how you cut it
36:28The WWF
36:29And by proxy
36:31Hulk Hogan's influence
36:32In the WWF
36:33Is why we're all here
36:34Right now
36:35So that being said
36:36Peace
36:37Love and prayers
36:38Rest in peace
36:38Brother
36:39We love you Hulk Hogan
36:41And hopefully you're
36:42In a better place
36:43And our condolences
36:44And sincere emotional
36:45Well wishes to his
36:47Entire family
36:48His children
36:49Grandkids
36:50All that stuff
36:50So that's all the time
36:52We have for this episode
36:52Check back with us
36:53Next episode
36:53We'll run down the latest
36:54Wrestling news and rumors
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36:58That I use in our show
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37:26I want to thank you
37:27For taking some time
37:28With us today
37:28I cannot believe
37:29I just got through
37:30This episode
37:30Without breaking down
37:31Like a crying little baby
37:32It has been tough
37:33I'll be honest
37:34I had to pause it
37:34A couple times
37:35I don't know if you could tell
37:35I had to pause it
37:36A couple times
37:36Because it was really
37:37Getting to me
37:38But hopefully
37:40We'll see you
37:40In your next episode
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