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Billboard cover star Daniel Caesar is joined by his friend and collaborator Tyler, the Creator for a hilarious conversation surrounding their work on Tyler’s Billboard 200 No. 1 album ‘Chromakopia.’ The two dive into behind-the-scenes secrets of making the album, what makes their friendship so special and if a hit really matters.
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00:00I hope to God that when we're 83 years old, shitting in diapers, and everyone knows you as a nigga that I just kept whooping ass in chest, that we are still friends.
00:10Because it's genuinely beautiful.
00:13Yeah.
00:13And you a bitch.
00:30How y'all two doing today, though?
00:37Very good.
00:38Very good.
00:39How you doing, Kyle?
00:40When was the last time y'all two were together?
00:42Like, four days ago?
00:44Yeah, I saw this nigga four days ago.
00:46Also, I'm doing terrible.
00:50I haven't slept.
00:51This tour is whooping my ass.
00:53We in Norway right now.
00:55I've been surrounded by white people for the last three weeks.
00:59I'm losing it, niggas.
01:02What do y'all normally do when you guys are hanging out together?
01:04No lie.
01:06When me and Daniel kick it, it's really just us sharing one thought for two hours.
01:12It's true.
01:14Legit.
01:14One.
01:15Like, yo, I had a thought.
01:17And it's never a complete thought.
01:20It's always, like, a 40% thought that we're still working out.
01:24And then we sit and, like, trade back and forth perspectives and this and that.
01:28And by the time we leave, we have the full thought.
01:33And that's one thing I really like about Daniel.
01:35It feels like, and the outer layer would not say that.
01:38Like, most folks would not think this.
01:42But me and him do share a specific frequency.
01:45And I think that's why we click and it works so well.
01:48And I fucking love this dude.
01:51He a bitch, though.
01:52I want to say to that, like, I think we like to figure things out.
01:56And we're also both at, like, not obviously, you know what I mean?
02:00He's been doing this for such a long time.
02:02And there's, like, there's, like, this kind of, you know, putting me on to shit and showing
02:07me things that he's been through and, like, showing me the way.
02:09I feel like both of our brains are, like, almost fully developed.
02:13And so we're looking to the future together.
02:15And, like, we both like to discuss, like, how we want our lives to look when we're old.
02:20You know?
02:20And I think at least me now more than ever, like, I'm trying to think into the future
02:26more.
02:26And I feel like you're on the same shit.
02:28I've always had goals.
02:30And I'm like, I know I'll get there.
02:32But now I'm just in a place where I'm, like, really thinking about life outside of what
02:37life is to me.
02:39Meaning, I've been making music since before I had pubic hair.
02:44Like, I got famous at, like, 18, 19 years old.
02:47So my version of the real world is so completely different from most.
02:51Now I think I'm just at a place where I'm really thinking about, I don't know, kids.
02:58And my back.
03:00And if I'm going to be doing this for a long time or where I want to live outside of home
03:07and why I stayed in L.A. for so long.
03:11My mom.
03:12I don't know.
03:13Most folks my age or even younger probably hear this and be like, bro, we always, like,
03:17you're not saying nothing special.
03:18We think of that.
03:19But, like, I've lived such a different type of life that these thoughts with this type
03:24of gravity is so new and foreign to me.
03:27And I think me and Daniel are kind of in a similar place with that.
03:31Especially, like, kind of being rich at a young age.
03:35It really, like, what would be the word, Daniel?
03:39I wouldn't say blind you.
03:41But you, it's walls that get built up around you.
03:45And now.
03:46Coping mechanisms.
03:48And we each have our own.
03:50And we're at the same frequency.
03:51But our ways of coping through this shit are vastly different.
03:56But we can still see, you know what I mean?
03:58The actual structure behind it all.
04:01I can only speak for myself.
04:02But literally, like, we haven't been, like, locked in like that for that.
04:05It's been, you know what I mean?
04:06It hasn't been that long.
04:07But I've seen you change so drastically.
04:11You know what I mean?
04:12And it's been years.
04:12But it hasn't been, like, a decade or something like that, you know?
04:15Yeah, no, you too.
04:16You too.
04:17Like, I've definitely changed.
04:18I'm changing now.
04:19I'm in a transitional phase in my life.
04:21I can feel it.
04:22As I speak.
04:23And it is cool that when me and Daniel do catch up, it's like, we talk about that.
04:30And share those things.
04:32And then, like, we report back.
04:34Legit, I'll be on FaceTime with this nigga for, like, three hours.
04:37Yeah.
04:38It's crazy.
04:38It's very, like, it's nice.
04:40Does anyone else want pet ducks?
04:42Like, my house in L.A., nigga, some ducks was all in my pool in my backyard.
04:47And I was like, yo, I want this here all the time.
04:51So now, at this other crib I got, I think I'm going to try to build a little, like, pond thing and hope the ducks come.
04:58But I don't want the geese to come.
05:00So now I got to fucking geese-proof it.
05:02But then I want the deer to come.
05:04So that means I got to, I'm sorry.
05:06You can't keep out geese and keep ducks.
05:08Is there, like, geese poison, like, specifically?
05:13I'm bird racist.
05:16You know, bird racist.
05:17I got to figure out how to keep these geese niggas out of my pond.
05:23Now, Tyler, how does the Daniel in front of you today compare to the man that you first met?
05:27This man is so much more, like, comfortable.
05:31And I think he knows he's so fucking ill now.
05:34Like, I think he kind of knew it.
05:36But it was like, oh, I'm talented.
05:37Like, I like music.
05:38But now I think he's, like, walking around like, yes, my dick is 15 inches, bro.
05:44And that's that energy.
05:45I hate humble niggas.
05:47I hate humble niggas, bro.
05:49That shit is disgusting to me.
05:50Know who you are.
05:51Know your worth, nigga.
05:52I was working on Chromacopia back in, like, 2020.
05:56Bro, for so long, I was like, I want this nigga on the intro of this album.
06:00Like, I want him to open this thing I have.
06:04When it happened and when we just started working, I was just so hyped that I got to be in the presence of, bro.
06:09Like, on that level, like, we knew each other.
06:11But, like, for us to actually be having a keyboard and be sharing these musical thoughts and this and that, like, I was hyped.
06:19And I feel like he was hyped, too.
06:22But I'm looking at him like, oh, you don't realize, like, nigga, I feel honored because you're so ill to be working on you with this.
06:31And I think now he knows his worth and why people would want to even call him in the first place.
06:44Nigga, did you get a hairdo?
06:46You're the last time you see me, I had the fro.
06:49Y'all, every time I see Dan, he don't post much, so y'all don't see him.
06:52This nigga always has a new hairdo, bro.
06:54Every six days, bro.
06:55I swear to God, bro.
06:57Bro, because I'm a bad bitch, bro.
06:58What are you talking about?
07:01You think there was a moment or a click for you, Daniel, that you were him?
07:09I will say, like, working on the record together.
07:13I'm in there, like, every day with him and working on this record.
07:19And I was saying to him, like, yo, it was so sick to be in service of someone else's vision.
07:23And I'm watching him and we're connecting.
07:27And, you know, we feel the same way about so many things.
07:31It was cool working with him and realizing how much value I could bring to other people and then realizing I've been bringing that same value to my own, to my own work.
07:40Now, Tyler, what was it about Daniel's voice specifically that made you really want to put him all over the album like this?
07:46He has this tone to his voice that has a warmth to it.
07:52It's a warmth that goes well with things that feel very, I'm going to use the word metallic.
08:00Most warm voices work well with warm-sounding music, obviously.
08:04And in some, when you put it with something metallic, it clashes.
08:08But his voice works in both.
08:10So I'm like, man, whether it's Tomorrow off Chromacopia or Like Him or whatever, one of the fucking 80 tracks he's on, it's a warmth to his voice where it matches.
08:21But then if I put him on something like St. Chroma, he makes it feel like goddamn gospel opera on some shit that is just like gravel stumps.
08:30And that was what I was looking for.
08:39These kids be singing that shit at these shows, bro.
08:43These motherfucking white boys and white girls and these goddamn shots at places, motherfuckers.
08:49And they accent, bro, you went crazy, peckin'.
08:53I saw it at the festival, Flognat, but I just saw the first, like, on tour was in Paris.
08:57And we went and I had, like, serious goosebumps, bro.
09:01The way they were singing it so loud, they were losing their minds.
09:05I will say, man, Daniel, I am like a maximalist.
09:08And Daniel had to put a mirror in front of me and let me know when to stop.
09:14And, like, just shut the fuck up.
09:16Like, hey, how about this, Tyler?
09:18How about you don't need that extra little drum right there?
09:21And I'm like, really?
09:22Damn.
09:22And he's like, hey, you don't need it.
09:24And because I trust him so much, I shut the fuck up and would take it out.
09:29And what that's done for me was help me grow as a musician, designer, whatever I do when
09:35really knowing when enough is enough.
09:38Because sometimes we'll be so hyped on it as, like, the person making it so we could
09:43jerk off in the room for ourselves.
09:45But sometimes you don't even need it there.
09:48And he helped me with that with this album a lot.
09:51I will say that's why this process was so special, because, like, it's we met a bunch
09:59of times.
09:59Obviously, you know what I mean?
10:00I've been listening to since Tyler Fucks Cows.
10:03By the way, Tyler Fucks Cows, some weird ass fan made that shit, bro.
10:08I guess that's some compilation.
10:10I don't know what the fuck Tyler Fucks Cows is.
10:13I think it's just random songs that I was putting on MySpace and doing features and someone
10:18made a thing, and now people think that's, like, a release I did.
10:22I would never call no shit Tyler Fucks Cows.
10:25I'm a little bit better than that.
10:28Keep that shit in the interview, too.
10:30Yeah, keep it in.
10:31So, yeah, I don't want to spread any misinformation.
10:33But from that, like, you know what I mean?
10:35From Tumblr shit.
10:36I know what you mean.
10:37Yeah.
10:37And so, like, I hold him in very high reverence.
10:41And so it was really cool.
10:44Your personality and the way that you are, I had to meet you, like, four times.
10:50And then, like, you just, like, I became more comfortable to the point where I was, like,
10:54I thought something, and I was, like, no, this is safe.
10:56I'll say it.
10:56Because it's just, you know what I mean?
10:57I'm Canadian.
10:58You know what I mean?
10:59It's kind of like, and he would roast me for it all the time.
11:01But, like, his personality made me accept myself for who I am more and be willing to
11:06just say, like, to speak my mind.
11:09It's not my natural disposition, but I love it.
11:12It feels very good.
11:14Daniel, with all the Kromacovia songs that you're on, which studio session was the most
11:18impactful for you?
11:20Ooh, that's a good question.
11:22I don't know if I have an exact answer, but the day we were in there with Willow and Teezo.
11:28Oh, yeah, that was cool.
11:30That was a special day.
11:31For whatever reason, that one popped into my mind first.
11:34Energy.
11:34That was a crazy fucking...
11:36It was great.
11:37That was good.
11:38I think I whooped your ass again in chess that night, too.
11:41Bro, here's the thing.
11:43I need to wait to get the interview.
11:46Yes, this nigga has beaten me in chess.
11:48But there is no...
11:49Damn, that's crazy.
11:50No, no, shut up.
11:51First of all, shut up so I can finish my point.
11:53That's why this guy's the biggest in the world, because he understands marketing.
11:56There is no...
11:58There's no record of how many times I whooped his ass stupid in chess.
12:02And I never thought to myself, oh, I should document this until...
12:05And as soon as he finally beat me, I look up and there's a phone.
12:09That video, when I don't even let you talk.
12:12No, it's bad.
12:13And you just holding the guitar all set.
12:15Hey, however y'all edit this video, listen, I could send y'all the video.
12:20Y'all got to cut it in this motherfucker.
12:22Fuck up, bitch.
12:23No, no, no.
12:24You fucking whacked.
12:25I just whooped your ass.
12:27You fucking suck.
12:29Ah, nobody will give you.
12:31You need more people.
12:33Ah, shut up, bitch.
12:37It's so crazy.
12:39He looks so defeated, and it's at a weird angle, and he starts sweating.
12:43If you zoom in, you can see the sweat on his shoulders start popping up.
12:46It's incredible.
12:47Bro, I beat you like 12 times that trip.
12:49It's so crazy that yous are such a sweet, a very sweet, good with words,
12:56sometimes sultry because the writing is so romantic,
12:59that you would sit here and fucking lie in this interview
13:03and say some dumb shit like that.
13:05Are you high?
13:06If you don't get the fuck out of my face.
13:09Why would I lie?
13:10Bro, I beat you.
13:11Look at the water.
13:13Look at that water, lie.
13:14Bro.
13:32Dude, so many people flaked on me when I was working on Chromacopia,
13:36and Daniel was there right by my side,
13:42really giving me support that I really needed to the last second.
13:47After the last second.
13:49Like, after the last second.
13:50And then, whatever.
13:52Album comes out.
13:54I'm traveling.
13:55I'm this and that.
13:56I'm shooting this movie, doing da-da-da-da-da.
13:58And then Flognor comes up.
14:02And I do my sound check, and he shows up and pops up.
14:05And I got so emotional when I saw him because I was like, oh, my God.
14:11Like, this guy was an actual angel in the midst of all the chaos of me trying to finish this thing or whatever
14:19and was right there as a shoulder for me to lean on.
14:23And I was so grateful.
14:25Not only for all of that, but this nigga just popped up at the sound check, just like, hey, what's up?
14:30And I was like, damn, this nigga, I hope to God that when we're 83 years old shitting in diapers
14:38and everyone knows you as a nigga that I just kept whooping ass in chest,
14:41that we are still friends because it's genuinely beautiful.
14:46And you a bitch.
14:49He did that.
14:50You know what?
14:51It means a lot, bro, because it was such a special experience for me.
14:54This is one of those things that I'd always wanted to do.
14:57You know what I mean?
14:58And getting to do it at, like, the highest level with you.
15:01It was being in service.
15:02I keep saying this, but, like, being in service of someone else's vision was just,
15:07it was the best feeling.
15:08And I'm like, oh, I have to do the best job I possibly can with this.
15:12And you brought that out of me, so I appreciate that.
15:14Remember the last album came out and I saw you two days later at that hotel, whatever.
15:22And I was, like, looking at you and I'm like, that Van Gogh record was so crazy to me.
15:28The rhymes that I dictate in time, you're awful to love me.
15:34And I remember looking like, bro, do you know that you're actually crazy?
15:40Like, that album has so many songs where I'm just like, how does this nigga do it?
15:46Like, how does he actually do that?
15:49Fast forward to us working on the record on the album.
15:52Bro, Like Him almost did not make this album.
15:56But Daniel looked at me like, are you stupid?
16:09You better put this shit on this goddamn album.
16:12And at that moment, I was like, oh, this is the guy that recorded and exported and mix and mastered that Vanko record, bro.
16:24He has some genius to him.
16:26He knows what the fuck he's talking about.
16:28Again, let me shut the fuck up.
16:30It's crazy that you say that you were in service to me or for Chromacopia, but, like, no.
16:37It almost feels like I was in service to you and took a step back within my own realm.
16:45And, man, like, the gratitude I have for that.
16:49This interview is just me sucking Daniel Caesar's dick on FaceTime.
17:10Now, Daniel, what are you taking from the Chromacopia experience for your next ranking?
17:14There's just this confidence and this self-assuredness.
17:18And it's like a self-respect and a self-love that you carry through everything.
17:24And I realized, like, oh, it starts in the little things.
17:28Like, oh, that person doesn't make me feel good when they're around.
17:31So why would I have them around?
17:32You know what I mean?
17:33Little decisions like that.
17:34He thinks through everything.
17:35He's not on no autopilot shit.
17:37And so when the record comes out, you fight for everything.
17:41You fight to have your vision stay the way it should be.
17:43Like, every single thing has to be thought through.
17:46And I have to love everything so that I can fight for it properly once it's out.
17:51You know what I mean?
17:51You always champion, like, it's your record.
17:54You worked hard on it.
17:55Why are you not going to promote it all the time?
17:57I feel like a lot of artists have had experiences where they didn't fight hard enough.
18:03You can fight, but if you don't fight hard enough and the idea loses its way, then when it's in the world,
18:09you don't have the energy to fight, like, to promote it because it's not what you imagined.
18:14So it's like you're going to promote it properly when you love it completely.
18:17They have a resentment towards it or, like, they let the steering wheel go at some point.
18:21Then it don't work out.
18:23Then they want to blame the label or, like, oh, the video got fucked up.
18:26Then why did you put it out?
18:27Like, I'm going to always fight for my happiness and love first in every decision, whether it's going to get the churros I just had or make a shirt and say, oh, this album ain't coming out.
18:40I'm not finished.
18:42I'm not done with this album, so I'm canceling that festival.
18:44Yeah.
18:45I'll do it.
18:46I'll look crazy.
18:47I'll take the smoke.
18:48It is not where or how it should be.
18:51And I'm going to fight for that.
18:52I'm not going to sit here like, oh, no, not at all, because I don't want regrets when I'm fucking 83 years old.
19:00It's really just on some grown man shit, like have some accountability.
19:04We are the lucky ones, bro.
19:06Blessed.
19:07That get to have a passion, a hobby, a pastime, something that we truly love, and we get rewarded for it.
19:17Yeah.
19:17In many different ways.
19:19So how dare we put you guys on the care and the fact that we could really make choices on the back burner.
19:26I love that I could pass that on to you and have you working on your new shit and like you feel that.
19:32I can't hold with you, but I'll hold with you.
19:38Daniel, who else are you working with for the new album?
19:40I've been locked in the whole time with Mustafa and Rex and Ramil.
19:47And then this record I got back with the fucking Dream Team, you know what I mean?
19:52I'm back with Jordan Evans and Matthew Burnett, you know, and we made everything together.
19:56I feel like I'm back, you know?
19:58There's been a crazy ride and, you know, there's so many things that my whole life I've been sheltered from and, you know, I experienced them.
20:08And you get knocked off your mark and you have to fight against, you know, anger and hatred and resentments that stir up in you.
20:17And you have to just kind of take accountability and decide if you're going to give up or not, you know?
20:24And I didn't.
20:25And I thank God every day.
20:27I'm very, like, I'm blessed beyond belief.
20:31And I wouldn't change anything.
20:32He got a different walk in his step, too, y'all.
20:34I've seen it over the last 365 days.
20:38This man got a different walk going.
20:40So everything he's saying, I could feel it.
20:42Like, if you know him, you could see that.
20:45He got a different swag.
20:46It's hard.
20:47I love it.
20:48I love seeing my boys grow in their own ways, in positive ways.
20:53That shit hard, bro.
20:55Do hits matter for you guys?
20:56What's a hit?
20:57Because it depends on what you say what's a hit.
21:00It depends on what circle you in, bro.
21:02Listen, it's some pop stars that I couldn't tell you a goddamn song of theirs if you put a gun in my head.
21:08That doesn't mean that it's not one of the biggest records in the world.
21:12It just means that I'm living my life how I'm living my life over here.
21:15And that might not cross where I'm at.
21:17And they doing their goddamn thing.
21:19They going crazy and saying here, it's folks that will say, what Tyler up to?
21:24We don't know shit he up to.
21:25He ain't nothing.
21:26We don't listen to Tyler over here, but six nights at Staples Center.
21:30We doing three nights in Paris.
21:31I don't have your traditional radio hits, but within the realm of what I do, I have my huge, big songs.
21:41So what are hits?
21:43I feel like that idea is almost outdated because the way that this thing called culture is dispersed.
21:49My culture, the shoes I like, the music I like, the slang, the movies, the all that is probably not the same as yours and your friends wherever the fuck you live.
21:59And it ain't nothing wrong with that.
22:01I think it's actually super cool.
22:02So do hits matter?
22:05Yeah.
22:05But what I consider a hit might not be a hit for you because you probably ain't even hurt the motherfucker.
22:12Yeah, the idea of chasing hits, I think, is foolish and it's short-sighted.
22:19And if I could share any game with anyone at home, life can be great without any hits.
22:27You know?
22:28What you really want is to touch people and to see them moved by the things you've created.
22:33Daniel, you have a song that will outlive everybody on this call, bro.
22:38If life is a movie, then you're the best part.
22:44It's an attention, too, that you put into it that I don't think I have.
22:48And I'm not even able to comprehend or articulate what that means yet.
22:53I'm going to have to think on it.
22:54But, like, bro, I told you you're going to be set for life because people are getting married and falling in love and losing love and graduating.
23:02Like, people are hitting milestones to the music that you are making.
23:05Humans are feeling that record.
23:08I've seen it with my eyes, bro.
23:11Yeah.
23:12That shit's awesome if it does.
23:14But that shit don't fucking matter, bro.
23:16It doesn't.
23:17Your shit about to outlive so much, bro.
23:20It's really beautiful.
23:22You're the hit, nigga.
23:24So, what's your favorite performance you've ever seen from Daniel?
23:28I'm not even joking.
23:29It is a video of this nigga.
23:32Damn, I hope you don't get mad that I picked it.
23:34Oh, my God.
23:35It's a video of this nigga popping out with the Jacob Kid.
23:39Oh.
23:42Yes.
23:42No, I like that one, actually.
23:43I like that one a lot.
23:44No, you pop out as a special guest, and not only do you sound incredible, but that's one of them things where, like, I've watched that video so many times.
24:00I think I was in Lake Tahoe when I first seen that, and I remember just watching that super talented guy, and your goopy ass come out and shit, and everyone's like, oh, shit.
24:09And y'all just randomly do that song, but the precision of your voice and the warmth and the love, like, bro, what?
24:19Like, I feel like I was there, and I feel, I start thinking about my, I start thinking of exes and crushes and thinking of my grandma and her yams, like, all types of shit you made me feel for those six minutes that that video is.
24:37I felt that's the hit.
24:40You are the hit.
24:41Daniel, what's your favorite Tyler performance?
24:43Vloggo's my favorite, because that's when I was like, oh, I haven't seen anything like this in a long time, and I haven't felt like this at a performance in a very long time.
25:00You just really lay it all on the stage.
25:03Every time I see him on stage, I get, I get jealous that I don't rap, and I wish I was a rapper.
25:09I wish I didn't sing and I rapped, you know?
25:12It's crazy.
25:12Yeah, you told me that the other day.
25:15Yeah.
25:15Which was interesting.
25:16I'm like, nigga, I wish I could really sing, bro.
25:20I'll be on that motherfucker doing 10-minute versions of two-minute songs going crazy.
25:26Yeah.
25:27I think it's sick.
25:28I think that's, like, you know you're at the top of your game and you're inspiring other people when, yeah, like, we both are exceptional what we do, and we both wish we could do what the other person did.
25:37You know what I mean?
25:38The thing is, I can't, I will never sound how I want to sound.
25:42I could sing and figure some shit out, but how I want to sound, bro, it's not going to happen.
25:47So let me go and do my bullshit.
25:49Thanks, Daniel.
25:50Cool.
25:51Some advice here and there.
25:52Let me be nasty.
25:54That's it.
25:54But, Daniel, I got you, bro, on how to say bars.
25:58Wait, you know what else?
25:58When we started, when I started coming around working on Chromacopia, and you, it was cool to see, Tyler, you'd, like, whenever there's, you know, whenever you're just chilling or there's silence, you'll just burst out into, like, some sort of weird, like, Tourette's thing.
26:15And we'd be, like, when we were driving to, you know where we're driving, and he's, like, zipped, we're in the Beamer, and you're going through the canyon, and you're driving insane.
26:25And I'm, like, I'm enjoying myself when I'm quiet, and I'm just, like, watching what's going on.
26:29And then he'll just be, like, 20,000 on me, 30,000 on me, 50,000 on me, you know?
26:36And then he was just, that was, like, his bit for, you know what I mean?
26:39And then you're, like, all right, this is just a thing he does.
26:41And then, I don't remember, I heard it in the song.
26:44It wasn't soon after.
26:46It was a little while after.
26:47And I was, like, oh, that's cool as fuck.
26:49Because it's just a thing I like to say right now, you know?
26:5120,000 on me, 100,000 on me, 50,000 on me, a couple thousand on me.
26:57I do have something where I kind of just can't help to just say shit.
27:04You know, you remember what I told you?
27:06You just, you have head trauma.
27:08You have childhood head trauma.
27:11Someone hit you really hard on the head when you were little.
27:14And you're a genius now.
27:15Daniel calls it head trauma.
27:19And you're a literal genius.
27:20It's crazy.
27:21All right.
27:22I'm not joking.
27:23You're losing me.
27:25I'm ready to jump off the water.
27:27My security guards call it.
27:29They say he's activated.
27:30He's activated.
27:32Go.
27:32I think that was real good, right?
27:35Go fucking, you know, eat a churro or something.
27:39I need Claire.
27:51Go fucking, you know, eat a churro or something.
27:52Go fucking, you know, eat a churro or something.
27:53Go fucking, you know, eat a churro or something.
27:53Go fucking, you know, eat a churro or something.
27:54Go fucking, you know, eat a churro or something.
27:55Go fucking, you know, eat a churro or something.
27:56Go fucking, you know, eat a churro or something.
27:57Go fucking, you know, eat a churro or something.
27:58Go fucking, you know, eat a churro or something.
27:59Go fucking, you know, eat a churro or something.
28:00Go fucking, you know, eat a churro or something.
28:01Go fucking, you know, eat a churro or something.
28:02Go fucking, you know, eat a churro or something.