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00:00Thank you very much.
00:30Thank you very much.
01:00Thank you very much.
01:30Thank you very much.
02:00Thank you very much.
05:06So,
05:36This is the first problem in the country in Syria.
05:41Two, it is clear that Ahmed Shahid wants to govern, but he cannot govern.
05:48He sees that there is no government on the West with the Turkish presence.
05:55No government on the West with the American presence and the Kurdish presence.
06:02And there is no government on the West with the Israeli presence and the Kurdish presence.
06:11He sees that the Kurdish presence is outside his presence.
06:16And he cannot handle this way.
06:19He wants to bring these areas to its power.
06:26This is the second mistake that he has taken.
06:28Now there is no way to talk about the possibility of dealing with the Kurdish presence in Syria.
06:33There is a blood and blood pressure in Syria.
06:37The third question is that Ahmed Shahid thought that if he came to the Kurdish presence and gave America everything he wants,
06:51he refused to govern with the Israel and the Israeli presence of it,
06:57so that means that he was displaced by the Kurdish presence,
07:00either he was under the Kurdish presence,
07:01either by the Kurdish presence,
07:02or by the Kurdish presence of the Kurdish presence.
07:04Unfortunately, there wasn't anyone who was there to come here.
07:06Yes.
07:08When it happened, what happened?
07:09Yes.
07:10As the Kurdish presence of the Kurdish presence is right.
07:11It is under the Kurdish presence of «Neenly»,
07:13or by the Kurdish presence of the Kurdish presence.
07:15We can imagine that with any chance that they can enter into the research and be able to get their own security in the region.
07:24So, we have to get the understanding of what happened.
07:28The problem is that the problem is not related to the research group.
07:33The Swiss people in the past 50 years have not heard of the sound of a complete difference.
07:40Well, we know that the Kuwait and Kuwait didn't have a complete relationship between the government and the government.
07:49Yes.
07:49And in the agreement, they were against them.
07:52In the agreement, they were against the government.
07:54They were against the government after the 2011 election.
07:58But the Kuwait didn't deal with them in this way.
08:01And in every case, the president of the U.S. or the government of the U.S. has been engaged immediately to manage any problems with Kuwait.
08:10There comes the question.
08:11There's a problem that the U.S. has been eliminated by the U.S.
08:14or the U.S. has been eliminated by the U.S.
08:17or that the U.S. was taken or the U.S. was taken by the U.S.
08:21or the U.S. was taken by one of the U.S.
08:23and then the U.S. was taken from the U.S.
08:25And then the U.S. was taken to a thousand murderers?
08:27But it wasn't possible to have a three-day job of the U.S.
08:32It's not a government agency or the U.S. was taken by the U.S.
08:36There is one who is working for the U.S.
08:38between the two sides.
08:39I'm not going to defend myself.
08:41I'm going to put all the
08:43different things.
08:44I'm also going to be against the Israeli
08:46Yes, sure.
08:47I'm going to be against the Israeli
08:48Yes, of course.
08:49Of course.
08:50We don't think that the Israeli
08:52was going to be in the building
08:54and it was a threat.
08:56Israeli or other non-alarm
08:59as a result?
09:00The state is not going to think
09:03that we can't agree
09:05what happened
09:06What happened?
09:07We need to use the project.
09:10But when you created the decisions
09:13for the fire and the fire
09:15and the fire
09:16it didn't get all the people.
09:17You can't fight against the people.
09:19You can't fight against the people.
09:21You can't fight against the people.
09:23They are the people of Daesh.
09:27The people of the United States
09:28are the people of Ahmed Shariq.
09:29They are called the people of the Hormorah
09:31who are in this case.
09:33They are the people of the Hormorah.
09:36We were fighting with the pictures and pictures, but we were looking at the pictures and pictures.
09:40You are today in the world where the information became very quick and present through videos and pictures.
09:46This is the reality.
09:48We are saying that you don't have to do anything like this, but you don't have to do anything like this.
09:54You are also a country, a country where you are going to live in the world.
09:57But today there is nothing in the world that is called a quamah.
10:00The quamah is talking about a thousand acetyl in the earth.
10:03There is nothing in this way.
10:05We are seeing it, unfortunately, in some countries.
10:08So the country is saying that it is not able to do anything in the world.
10:14And when they were trying to do anything in the world, they did a lot of mistakes.
10:19Unfortunately, there is something wrong.
10:22The country is not going to stop what happened, but when it was Israel, it was going to stop it.
10:27This is coming to a lot of conversations.
10:30What is wrong with you?
10:32What is wrong with you?
10:34Are you going to go to an agreement with Israel?
10:36Or are you going to go to an agreement with Israel?
10:38You are not going to say that you are going to an agreement with Israel.
10:40What is wrong with you?
10:41What is wrong with you?
10:42What is wrong with you?
10:43What is wrong with you?
10:45What is wrong with you?
10:47What is wrong with you?
10:49What is wrong with you?
10:50What is wrong with you?
10:53What is wrong with you?
10:54What is wrong with you?
10:56What is wrong with you?
10:58What is wrong with you?
11:00What is wrong with you?
11:02What is wrong with you?
11:05What is wrong with you?
11:06What is wrong with you?
11:08What is wrong with you?
11:10What is wrong with you?
11:11What is wrong with you?
11:12What is wrong with you?
11:13What is wrong with you?
11:22بعض الموضوع من منظر آخر
11:23كدولة تبني نفسها اليوم من جديد
11:26وتحاول أن تبني الدولة من جديد
11:28يعني عقب سقوط نظام ومجيء نظام آخر
11:30طب ألا يحق لهذه الدولة
11:32عندما ترى أن هناك
11:34مكونات أو مناطق
11:36تخرج عن سيطرة هذه الدولة
11:38أن تحاول أن تعيد هذه المناطق
11:40إلى كنف الدولة أن لا تكون
11:42هذه الدولة جاهزة للتقسيمات
11:44وكأنها خارج هذه الدولة
11:46طبعا بكل وقعي وموضوعي
11:48يحق له لكن ما هو الأسلوب
11:50طب أنت عندك احتلال أمريكي
11:52لماذا تقول الأمريكان تطلعه؟
11:53بيقدر يقول الأمريكان يطلعه؟
11:55طب الأمريكان اليوم يأخذين كل أبار النفط
11:57هلأ يمكن حدا يقول لا أنت جاي تقول
11:59بدين يطلعوا الأمريكان
12:00لو بدين يطلعوا وطلعوا
12:03كل الأبار النفط مع الأمريكان
12:04سمعتني صرح تصريحهم
12:06هذا اقتصام من الحدود السورية
12:09طب المسألة الكردية
12:10هم ما قادر يقرب على الأكراد لاش
12:13هذا سؤال كبير
12:14لأنه بحماية الأمريكي نعم
12:16ما هو التركي مش قادر يقرب على الأكراد
12:18لأنه بحماية الأمريكان
12:19وانت مش قادر تروح على الشمال
12:22وتتنظم الشمال كليا
12:23أو تقول لتركيا لا
12:25وانت فوضت تركيا لعندك على البلد
12:27وعطيتك كل شيء
12:28طب ما قولي دولة بتفوض دولة تاني بهالطريقة
12:31طيب انت بالجنوب السوري
12:32انت قبلت
12:33ما هو قابلان أنه تفوت إسرائيل
12:35أصلا ما جابوا صيرت الجولان
12:37وإسرائيل وصلت على دمشق
12:39وما كانوا عم بيفتحتهم من الجماعة
12:41يعني منيح اللي طلعوا بيانا
12:42إذا استنكار آخر شيء
12:43بعد ما دوري بكسر المهاجرين
12:45فإذا أنت بدك تبني دولة حقك
12:47لازم تبني الدولة
12:48لكن ما هي العقلية التي تبني الدولة
12:50هل عقلية الملوشيات اليوم
12:52بهذا العصر اللي نحن عنجد فيه
12:55عقلية الملوشيات تبني دولة
12:56مستحيل
12:57لابد من أن يكون
12:59أي حدا يريد
13:01لا يمكن التعاطي ميكافيليا اليوم
13:03يعني معقول أنت تيجي تطبق ميكافيلي
13:05اللي عمره مئات السنين
13:07اليوم
13:09اليوم
13:10عنجد هلأ أنا عم بحكي بالفكر السياسي
13:13معقول تجيبي أنت
13:14كتاب الأمير
13:16والطب إيه اليوم
13:17اليوم الشباب يا عمي
13:20بس الشباب اليوم
13:21مين قادر يسيطر على عقل الشباب اليوم
13:23نتيجة
13:24الوجود الثورة التقنية والتكنولوجية الموجودة
13:28نعم
13:28فإذا يجب الاحتواء بناء الدولة
13:30يكون بالتشارك والتعامل
13:31ليش لقيك سؤال
13:32هلأ عنجد الدروز
13:34لو إجا أحمد الشرع
13:35وتعامل معهم بمنطق الدولة
13:38نعم
13:38ومنطق أعطاء الحقوق
13:40هني ما بيفوتوا عكنا في الدولة
13:41طب خمسين ستين سنة الجامعة
13:42ما فترحوا تموهم
13:43الدروز أقلية
13:45أنا حدا عم بيحكي من خارج
13:47ما يخصني بالتناني
13:48الدروز أقلية
13:49يخافون على أنفسهم
13:50متل أي أقلية
13:51متل أي مكون آخر
13:52المسيحية بيخافوا على حالهم
13:54بسوريا
13:55الشيعة يخفون على أنفسهم
13:57حقيقة هيك الموضوع
13:58العلوي يخاف
13:59طب ما الدرز أيضا يخاف
14:00حتى الكردي خايف
14:01طب أنت لو جيت وعطيتهم ما يريدونه
14:04وعطت معهم وشفت شو بدهم
14:05وحلّت أمورهم
14:06ما كانوا راحوا على كنف الدولة
14:08ما كانوا اضطروا للأسف يعني
14:10أنا ضد هذه الفكرة
14:11طبعا
14:11راحوا جيبوا الإسئي
14:12يقولوا أنه والله
14:13نحنا بدنا مين يحمينا
14:14هون للأسف
14:16إسرائيل إجت فاتت على المشهد
14:17تحت هذه الحجة
14:19واستغلت هذا المشهد
14:20طب نحن نعف أنه كان في
14:22دائما خلال هذه الفترة
14:24أو أيام الاقتتال
14:25إذا بدنا نسميها
14:26كان هناك نوع من الاتفاقيات
14:28التي يتم الاتفاق عليها
14:30من أجل وقف إطلاق النار
14:31ومن ثم لا يتم الضبط
14:34في هذه المسألة
14:35وصولا إلى هذه الاتفاقية الأخيرة
14:38التي على ما يبدو أنها توقفت
14:40فعليا يعني
14:41كشوارع موضوع القطر والتدمير
14:44في بعض الاشتباكات
14:45المنفردة التي تصبح ببعض الأحياء
14:47لكن بشكل عام توقفت
14:49لماذا لك أن يعتبر اليوم
14:51أو العديد يعتبر اليوم
14:53أن هذه الاتفاقية تثيرها الكثير من الشكوك
14:56ما هي توقفت
14:57لماذا هناك شكوك حول هذه الاتفاقية
15:01والبعض يقول
15:02أنه ليست هناك من ضمانات
15:05لعدم عودة هذه الجوالات من جديد
15:08لأنه لك أصل
15:09أصل الاتفاق
15:12لا يوجد ضمانات
15:12أصل المشهد الأساسي
15:16بمعنى اليوم الدروز
15:17نتيجة اللي شفوه
15:20أصبحوا أيضا عندهم بالداخل منقسمين من أراء
15:23أحدا بده الهجري يريد أن يدافع ويقاتل
15:27آخر يريد أن لا يقاتل
15:30موفق طريفي بيجي من الكيان الإسرائيلي بيقول
15:33نحن بدنا ندافع عن دروز سورية
15:36نعم
15:37العشائر اليوم بعد كمان بيقولولك
15:40نحن ما بدنا يعني فيه بالعشائر متشددين
15:43فيه ناس راحوا عاشوا معه
15:45فيه ناس فلوا وإجوا واستقبلوهن الدروز
15:48بتجي أنت عند السلطة السورية
15:51فيه مشارب متعددة
15:53اليوم أحمد الشرع مش على نفس الموجة مع وزير خارجيته
15:58أحمد الشرع مش على نفس الموجة مع وزير الدفاع
16:01أحمد الشرع مش على نفس الموجة مع وزير الأمن والداخلية
16:05الوزراء مش على نفس الموجة
16:08كل حدا عنده فكره وعنده رؤيته
16:11فيه مجموعة محاور عم تتقاطل
16:14يعني المشهد ما عاد مشهد مضبوط
16:17I see that you are coming today in Lebanon, in Lebanon, there is a threat that you don't want to have a threat, not like that.
16:25And we lived in a civil war, that's the end of the war.
16:28But today, the government, all of them is dealing with the nationality.
16:32Even the government that is dealing with others is dealing with the nationality.
16:36Even the other people are not able to deal with the nationality.
16:41Because all of them need to maintain the peace of mind.
16:43Today, in Syria, there is no nationality.
16:46After that, there is no nationality.
16:49There is no nationality.
16:51And there are problems.
16:53After that, there is no danger.
16:55And the other people, at the same time, will make their own mentalities.
17:02Before we move on, I want to talk a little bit about what is today in Ghazza.
17:06What do you think about Thomas Barrake yesterday?
17:08What do you think about it?
17:09What do you think about it?
17:11What do you think about it?
17:14I want to try to run the political freedom of China.
17:16We have to pull up the political freedom of the K Canal.
17:18And we have to carry out the political freedom of Russia.
17:20And also to move the
17:25This is a lot of measures
17:28What do you mean that this is the release of the U.S.
17:34American music
17:38No, not at all
17:40No, not at all
17:41I tell you that the U.S. was able to
17:45will actually...
17:47on theモncer
17:49We want to be able to make a solution
17:52then we are like them
17:53but the best captain from this country
17:56who will come to the US is
17:57from America
17:59first, he was already in need to be returned
18:01he was directly in the war
18:03He is directly in the Soviet Union
18:04He is directly in the Soviet Union
18:06He is directly in the Soviet Union
18:07He is directly in the Soviet Union
18:09the other side of each was
18:12or through the summit to Israel
18:13in the Soviet Union
18:14Israel had more than 1000 people who had a weapon from the Soviet Union.
18:21From the Soviet Union, the Soviet Union, and the Soviet Union.
18:25He didn't have a weapon.
18:26He didn't have a year.
18:28He didn't have a year.
18:30He was in a year.
18:32There was a meeting in this year.
18:34There was a meeting between Netanyahu and the United States.
18:37What do you want to say?
18:39The President is saying, what do you want to say?
18:41What do you want to say?
18:42I want to say, I want to say, I want to say.
18:44What do you want to do better than this?
18:46I want you to be in your head in your head.
18:49I want you to be in your head.
18:51What do you want to do better than this?
18:54But there is another thing that you want to see.
18:57First of all, the Arabs don't like the war.
19:01What do we want to do?
19:03The war is the Saudi and the Emirates.
19:06The Saudi people don't dare to be in Syria.
19:10You want to see the Saudi side.
19:12The Emirates don't dare to be in Syria.
19:14You want to see the Emirates.
19:16This is a common sense today in Syria.
19:20But for the United States, the United States is the best for them.
19:25But if you want to stay with the U.S.
19:27If you want to stay with the U.S.
19:29You don't know the U.S. and the U.S.
19:33Let me tell you about what we have today.
19:36I talked a little about what is happening today in Gaza.
19:40We are talking about what is happening today.
19:42We are talking about the war between the Hamaes.
19:44The war between the Hamaes and the Fulestinianian and the Israeli side.
19:47And the Israeli side of the U.S.
19:48That is every time they are coming to the war.
19:50And then they are coming to the U.S.
19:52We are talking about the war.
19:53And the war is coming to the U.S.
19:54In the U.S.
19:56And the U.S.
19:57The U.S.
19:58The U.S.
19:59The U.S.
20:15It's not possible. The problem we see in Ghazza is not possible.
20:19It's not possible. It's possible that the things that we've been following.
20:22People who are falling apart or who are suffering.
20:26They are drinking water, drinking water, drinking water.
20:29It's true here. If we look at these things, they won't be able to do this.
20:33The whole thing is following today.
20:35But for the most part, the people are actually working with what they do in Ghazza
20:40and they want to do any way to do anything.
20:42But as a country, they are completely different.
20:47This is the most important thing, especially the Arabian.
20:50What do we need to do with the American people? What do we need to do with the European people?
20:52But the Arabs are completely different from what they do in Ghazza.
20:56In Egypt, like you said, if you open a single one,
20:59you will be able to do this for a single one,
21:02to save the world, the people, the children, all of them.
21:04All of them are going to see.
21:06What is what happens in Ghazza?
21:08This is the new weapon, the non-human human, which is not acceptable without any way of the way.
21:15We are seeing this huge power in the world.
21:17What do we need to do with the Palestinian people in Ghazza?
21:22What do we need to do with these countries?
21:25What do we need to do with these countries?
21:27I don't know.
21:28Maybe you can read the Jewish people's message and understand what keeps happening behind you?
21:32It doesn't have to be accepted.
21:33But the Jewish people are actually accepted.
21:37But it is true.
21:38You have to see what you see in the kids.
21:41It is a Jewish people.
21:43You can see this young man in the years.
21:46Yet be not possible.
21:47But humans cannot report it to the Jewish people.
21:49And there is some more truth.
21:51I can speak for the Jewish people.
21:52I can speak after the Jewish people.
21:55The American
21:56is
21:58the
21:59American
22:01is
22:02to
22:03make
22:04the
22:05actions
22:06to
22:07the
22:08United
22:09and
22:10the
22:11human
22:12to
22:13Palestine.
22:14The
22:15message is
22:16to
22:17Israel.
22:18You see
22:19America today is the
22:20the
22:21message
22:22to
22:23The administration is clear, the investigation,
22:26the investigation is in the case of the Palestinian state.
22:31I don't think about the existence of the civilization.
22:33I think that many people in Ghazaa think about the civilization.
22:36Even though there was this investigation,
22:37they would not stop the civilization.
22:39So we are in America and Israel
22:41to the fact that the reform is committed.
22:44The reform is committed by the power of Israel,
22:46which was made by the power of Israel.
22:49So Israel is committed by this situation here.
22:51She is a stupid one.
22:52NETANIAHOEY YAKZAB في مسألة انه يريد وقف الحرب وما عود ترامب على اكذب يعني.
22:58الدول العربية في ثبات مش ثبات يعني ما اذا يعني شو بدي ايلك يعني اليوم مئة الف شهد ما فيأ.
23:05ما فيأ الدول العربية. مين بدي يفيون؟ مين بعد بفيأ الدول العربية؟ مئة الف شهد.
23:11قد بديك ثمانين سبعين الف من عديهم ما بعرف يعني سبعين الف طيب ستين سبعين الف.
23:16حتى بيغض النظر عن موضوع الشهداء. المنظر اللي عم نشوفه اليوم هو الكافل.
23:20مين؟ مين بيفيون عن جاد فعلا. ما بعرف صراحة.
23:23حتى بمساعدات انسانية نحن معا منقول انه يا جماعة ما عم نقول وقفوا ضد اسرائيل.
23:28ما تحاربوا اسرائيل ما تضربوا صاروخ على اسرائيل. كفوتوا مساعدات.
23:31لك. حتى ما وضخوا الانروا اذا حضرنا كتبع.
23:34الارضم كانوا يجزبوا علينا خلال الحرب انه عم بيزدوا مساعدة.
23:38طب وين كن اليوم يخيزدوا ونحن قبلين؟ لا يعني لحد درجة.
23:42المشكلة مش هيك. مشكلة انه هذه الدول هي من ضمن هذا المشروع.
23:47شئنا اما بين هذه الدول من ضمن هذا المشروع.
23:51هذه الدول تريد ان يتم القضاء كليا على المقاومة.
23:55وان تنتهي المقاومة في غزة.
23:57وبالتالي تضغط على الشعب الفلسطيني لانهاء المقاومة.
24:00يعني اليوم علينا ان نعترف انه القوة المتسلحة في العالم هي باتت اقوى من كل شيء.
24:05وهي تقرر ما تريد ومن تريد ان يبقى في هذه المقاومة.
24:08هذه من زمان.
24:10لكن اجت ابادة غزة.
24:12اجت ابادة غزة بعد الحرب العالمية التانية.
24:14لتفرجينا المشهد اللي نحن فعلا عليه في العالم.
24:17حتى البابا الفاتيقان تحدث وطالب.
24:19لم احد يقبه للامريكي.
24:21لهم افروض يعني انه القون الدينية بالنسبة لهم.
24:25اليوم ترامب سيعطوه نوبل للسلام.
24:27تخيلي انت عن جد اليوم.
24:29يعني هذه مهزة عن جد.
24:30انه تخيلي الاقتراح الموجود لانه ياخد ترامب نوبل.
24:34تخيلي.
24:36انه هذا الذي يشارك بهذه الابادة.
24:38هو ولا بايدن ولا نتانيو.
24:40فنحن امام مشهد فضيع لا يمكن وصفه.
24:44على المستوى السياسي الان.
24:46المطروح.
24:47لكن شوفي للأسف.
24:49يجو هاودي عم بحمل المقاومة يعني حماس عم بحملون المسئولية اليوم.
24:54لكن الحقيقة مش هاك.
24:55حماس عم بتقول عني مستعدة اذهب لانهاء الحرب.
24:58صح.
24:59وما بدها.
25:00ما شاء الله تقول.
25:01وبجراب لك هي مش قبل انين.
25:02ما بدها تشارك بالهايئة السياسية او الحكوم.
25:04نعم.
25:05المشكلة وان.
25:06المشكلة بيجو بقولولك نحن منوقف ستين يوم.
25:10مناخد الأسرة.
25:11بنرجع للحرب.
25:12نرجع للحرب.
25:13يا خيطة عندها شو عم تضحك علينا.
25:14بترجع للحرب رجعنا نفس الشي.
25:16هيدا هو المطلب.
25:17طيب ليش ما يتم الضغط على نتنياهو لوقف الحرب.
25:20ما حدا قادل يضغط على نتنياهو.
25:22مين بده يضغط لانه على ما يبدو ان الامريكي هو يريد ما يجري.
25:25عم بيعطي البدوية رفع ايده عنه.
25:27ما في عنده مشكلة.
25:28فعن جد انت ما بق فيك تلاقي اي توصيف.
25:31ونحن امام خزلان.
25:33حتى الشعوب العربية.
25:34شوف انت قبل شوية امكين عم تقولي.
25:36لا الشعوب العربية متخازلة اليوم.
25:38معلاش.
25:39الحكومات ما بده تقوم والشعوب متخازلة اليوم يزعل يزعل.
25:46خلي يقوم الشعب المصريد 80 مليون يعملوا مظاهرات.
25:50يسترجو الشعب الاردني يقوم اليوم.
25:52معلاش.
25:53خلص ما وصلنا للنهاية.
25:55اليوم حدب بيقدر يقوم بالامارات يعمل مظاهرة.
25:58حدب البحرين بيقدر يعمل مظاهرة.
26:00حدب السعودية بيقدر يعمل مظاهرة.
26:03هلأ اذا البعض بيجي بقولها تدعو لنا نعمل مظاهرات ما النظام بيطمعنا.
26:08It seems to be a person to send a message to what was going on in the future.
26:15But let's move on a little bit.
26:17So if we continue this on Jad, we'll be able to continue it.
26:21And on what we see, we'll be able to continue it.
26:23Unfortunately, we ended up with this episode.
26:26Dr. Ali Mottar, in the international relations,
26:29I hope that on Jad, we'll see on the list of the Palestinian plan
26:32And we'll see you in the next episode of Jad.
26:42Thank you, Dr. Ali Mottar.
26:44And thank you for your attention.
26:46We'll see you in the next episode.
26:48We'll see you in the next episode.
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