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During a House Homeland Security hearing on Wednesday, Rep. Delia Ramirez (D-IL) spoke about Border Czar Tom Homan and Gov. Ron DeSantis (R-FL).
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00:00If the witnesses are here and the importance of this topic, I'm going to withdraw my motion.
00:03The motion has been withdrawn. I will now recognize Ms. Ramirez for five minutes for her questioning.
00:11Thank you, Chair, and thank you, Ranking Member Thompson. It's been a long time in this committee,
00:16but I want to start by talking about civil society because civil society, in my opinion,
00:23is the first line of defense for our communities. When authoritarianism, you know, like the one
00:29that the president is attempting and our democracy tries to attack us. And when Trump demands a public
00:40enemy and abuse our authority to target them, it is civil society that holds the line. I find it
00:45deeply undemocratic and un-American and unacceptable that my Republican colleagues are targeting more
00:50than 212 organizations across the country that assist community members, including immigrant
00:57children, since we've been talking about children as if you care about immigrant children, and asylum
01:02seekers to meet their basic needs. So I want to make sure that I remind my colleagues, since we've been
01:06here for a while, the Secretary Nomen disadministration, a couple of things. First of all, crossing a border
01:13to the U.S. to request the opportunity to apply for asylum is actually legal. Adjusting your status,
01:19if you have a pathway to do so, if you have a pathway to do so is legal. Supporting immigrants to apply for
01:24asylum, TPS, parole, and other forms of relief is legal. Supporting people to become United States
01:32citizens is also legal. Look, Republicans are going to lie and gaslight us all to help their fascist boss
01:39suppress dissent. Let me ask you, who drags the reputations of essential nonprofits in our communities?
01:46I'll tell you who. Authoritarians, bullies, these weak wannabe kings who are scared of civil society
01:55because they uphold the democracy. This hearing has been unserious, especially since the illegal and
02:03unlawful activities are actually being perpetrated by the people in the White House, the Cabinet, and
02:08Republican leadership. Tom Holman said during an interview that ICE officers and Border Patrol agents
02:16don't need any probable cause to walk up to someone, question them, and detain them based on their
02:24physical appearance, occupation, or location. So he basically said that if someone looks like me
02:30and a couple of colleagues here, they can walk up and question us. That is racial profiling,
02:38which is illegal. At the same time, Holman consistently complains about the communities,
02:44like the one I represent from Chicago, for knowing their rights, because if they know their rights,
02:49it's harder for him to violate them. Tom Holman's disregard for our rights is unconstitutional.
02:54And since Mr. Holman, aka the border czar, has the audacity to repeatedly brag about his legal
03:00immigration enforcement practices and disrespect due process, I demand he come before us to respond to
03:07the multitude of questions we have for him in person. But not just him. Governor Ron DeSantis of Florida
03:14is complicit in the construction of the alligator Alcatraz and the violations of human rights being
03:20perpetrated there. Florida's replica of one of our most notorious prisons is a clear illustration of the
03:28brutality of the Trump administration. They unlawfully robbed funds from cities supporting asylum seekers
03:34to build a Seacott-like detention center in one of the most dangerous places in the United States.
03:41Yet, DeSantis has the audacity to repeatedly brag about the inhumane conditions at alligator Alcatraz
03:48and celebrate the violence being perpetrated with American tax dollars. Governor DeSantis must testify
03:54before this committee and provide answers to our questions about the atrocities being committed in
04:00the state. And he should also bring Secretary Marco Rubio. Because the truth is, we shouldn't be sending
04:05people to foreign countries when they may face torture and death with no chance for due process
04:10or appeal, particularly when they have not had their day in court and have not been subject to an
04:16extradition request. It is a gross violation of our shared humanity and our ideals as a nation
04:22to use money that's been appropriated to support refugees to disappear them to offshore prisons
04:28in countries they do not know and have no connection to. Yet, Trump, Noam, and Rubio have repeatedly been
04:34caught red-handed blatantly breaking the law, entering into backdoor agreements with foreign countries
04:41to deport people without due process. So, Mr. Chair, pursuant to Clause 2K6 of Rule 11,
04:49I move that this committee subpoena Thomas Douglas Holman, Ron DeSantis, and Marco Rubio.
05:01Does the gentlelady yield back? I would like to make sure that my subpoena request is in record
05:09and is considered. Yes, ma'am. Do you yield back? I do. Is there a motion? Mr. Chairman, I move to table.
05:15A motion to table has been offered. The gentleman that moves the motion to table, this is, as we
05:22well know now, a privileged and non-debatable motion. All those in favor of tabling the motion,
05:28please signify by saying aye. Aye. Any opposed? No. No. In the opinion of the chairs, the ayes have it.
05:36Is there a motion? I'd like a recorded vote. There has been a motion for a recorded vote. Mr. Clerk,
05:41thank you for your yeoman's work today. Mr. Clerk, if you will please call the roll.
05:54Mr. Green of Tennessee. Mr. McCall. Mr. Higgins. Aye. Mr. Higgins votes aye.
06:02Mr. Pflueger. Mr. Pflueger votes aye. Mr. Garbarino. Aye. Mr. Garbarino votes aye. Miss Green.
06:19Mr. Burkeen. Mr. Gonzalez. Mr. Luttrell. Mr. Strong. My apologies. Aye.
06:34You were just called. Yes, sir. That's all right. Mr. Luttrell votes aye.
06:38I apologize. Mr. Strong. Aye. Mr. Strong votes aye. Mr. Burkeen. Aye. Mr. Burkeen votes aye.
06:50Mr. Crane. Mr. Crane votes aye. Mr. Ogles. Aye. Mr. Ogles votes aye. Mrs. Biggs.
07:01Mr. Evans. Aye. Mr. Evans votes aye. Mr. McKenzie. Aye. Mr. McKenzie votes aye. Mr. Knott.
07:09Ranking member Thompson. Ranking member Thompson votes no. Mr. Swalwell. Mr. Correa. No. Mr. Correa votes no. Mr.
07:23Kanadar. No. Mr. Kanadar votes no. Mr. Magaziner. No. Mr. Magaziner votes no. Mr. Goldman.
07:35Mrs. Ramirez. Mrs. Ramirez votes no. Mr. Kennedy. No. Mr. Kennedy votes no. Mrs. McIver.
07:43Mr. Johnson. Mr. Hernandez. Mr. Poe. Mr. Carter. No. Mr. Carter votes no. Mr. Green of Texas.
07:57Mr. Green of Texas votes no. Mr. Green of Texas votes no.
08:04Are there any members who wish to record their vote?
08:07Mr. Biggs votes aye. Mr. Clark, how am I recorded?
08:19Chairman has not yet been recorded. Guest votes aye.
08:23Chairman guest votes aye. Would you please report the tally? Point of order.
08:30Mr. Chairman. Yes. Are we going to leave the
08:33voting tally open until everybody gets here, as we did earlier? There are people that are still
08:40outstanding, missing votes on both sides of the table, bipartisan. Ms. McIver, would you like to be
08:46recorded? Ms. McIver votes no. Would the clerk report the tally?
08:58Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman. Are we going to leave the vote tally?
09:05Would the clerk report the tally? You're not recognized, Mr. Kennedy.
09:08On that vote, there were 13 ayes and 9 no's. The opinion of the chair, based upon the recorded vote,
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