00:00We were a little nervous as to what was actually happening. And then, of course, they appealed all the way to the Supreme Court. And I think a lot of us kind of saw the writing on the wall on June 27th when the Casa decision came down.
00:11You know, that that was a big that was a really big day as well for this, because I think at that point we kind of knew what this this court was going to do for for Donald Trump.
00:23And that was that was a rough day for a lot of us. And I we just kind of were waiting, waiting, waiting.
00:32And of course, you know, on Monday, the decision came down that they were going to stay the injunction and essentially allow them to move forward with riffing us.
00:42And at that point, I think a lot of folks started to realize like what it actually meant. It wasn't just about not going back to work.
00:49It was about actually kind of tearing apart the department. And, you know, for us, you know, anybody who was following the case, they were seeing the reports from Rachel Oglesby, the chief of staff.
01:01And, you know, it was noted at one point that they were working on the memorandums of understanding between agencies to essentially start shifting duties.
01:10And I think a lot of us at that point knew that they were they're serious about actually dismantling the department and, you know, moving moving resources around and essentially eliminating some of the many of the programs really of.
01:25Of student access and success from the department that really make a difference in students and families lives.
01:35And that was I think that that was the hardest part, I think, for me is at that point, it's like, OK, well, I knew that at some point this was going to happen, but I didn't really realize like the the national impact until, you know,
01:50you start reading through these documents that they had submitted that essentially were going to eliminate the department with funding being cut.
01:59It's going to reduce the number of teachers. It's going to reduce the ability for us to make evidence based change that we need.
02:13When parents have concerns, who do they reach out to if there's nobody in those offices?
02:22It's going to be the delays and things. And so it's not going to be as easy to call federal student aid to find out what your the status of your FAFSA is.
02:33They're cutting contractors. And so what is what does that look like when it comes to processing pieces of work?
02:43Data collections are going to be very difficult for educators, especially from the post-secondary lens, but, you know, also from the state and local lens where agencies are trying to report their statistics to the department.
02:58If you have a question, you're not going to be able to get an answer right away because there's no staff there.
03:03Civil rights complaints. I think that that's what I'm extremely fearful of, you know, when you have family and friends of students with disabilities who may not be able to get in contact with OCR to make complaints that their school districts are doing things that is harmful.
03:33And so you. You really reflect on those little pieces, it's going to be rough, and I think some of these things they're going to feel immediately, but I also think that there are a lot of things that they're not going to experience until two or three years from now.
03:50I mean, data collections, for example, at the higher ed level, stuff that you start reporting on this fall won't be finalized for two years, typically.
03:58And so it's going to be a delay. You know, we're just now seeing some of the data that are coming out of what happened during those COVID years, the 2020-21 school year, the 21-22 school year.
04:14And now that we're three years out, those data are showing up and we can see what those changes were.
04:22And so we're not going to know what the impact of these cuts are going to be in a lot of ways until this administration is gone.
04:32And how do we rebuild that? And, you know, what does Fix-It 2029 look like?