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Greg Gutfeld speaks to Turning Point USA Executive Director Charlie Kirk at the "Student Action Summit" in Tampa, Florida.
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00:00How about Greg Gutfeld, everybody?
00:03You know, I expected more pyrotechnics.
00:08You know, as you see, we're downsizing.
00:09I want somebody to lose a finger when I come out.
00:14We, um, isn't Greg the best?
00:17I watch him almost every night, I'll tell you.
00:20Stop it.
00:22Stop it.
00:24You crazy kids.
00:26I wonder if, has anybody here ever seen Red Eye?
00:30Oh.
00:31I was just wondering how old you were, because that was the first show.
00:35No hands went up around here.
00:36I know, they're going, what?
00:37This is student sections right up there.
00:38Yeah, they're going like, you mean the movie Red Eye?
00:41Or, yeah, so, so, Greg, I know there's a lot going on in the news.
00:45Obviously, the most important thing that you want to talk about
00:48is the fact that we no longer have to take our shoes off at the airport when we fly.
00:52Yeah.
00:54I mean, that is the most important news of the week.
00:57Yes.
00:57I want to, I like the fact that I can keep my shoes on and take my pants off.
01:05No, it's crazy.
01:06Every day is good news.
01:08It's like 365 days of Christmas.
01:11And once in a while you get something that you're not happy about,
01:14but the whole package is amazing.
01:17It's like the election of Trump is like, you know, you wanted a beautiful,
01:22you wanted your parents to buy you a car for your 16th birthday, and you got the car.
01:27But maybe it doesn't have, it's not the right color.
01:30You know, so you, you, stop whining.
01:33This is like the best thing that's ever happened to, to our political system in ages.
01:37And Greg, you made a really good point backstage, which is like, there's disagreements in our movement and people are fighting back and forth.
01:44But you look at this as a positive, an attribute of a movement that has strength.
01:50This is a, this is a party, this is a movement that is so transparent that even their cover-ups are transparent.
02:01They're not even trying.
02:03It's like, everything that you've seen is one collective wink.
02:07It's like, dude, yeah, we get it.
02:08You know, Epstein, Epstein was probably a honeypot operation, but it's like a CIA thing.
02:14You know, it sucks.
02:15But what I, the way I look at it is that, again, in the, with the Christmas analogy, you got everything you wanted.
02:23You're not going to get everything, but you're going to get to see how it's made and you know what's going on.
02:29You may not know who's, you know, who's stopping that.
02:32But what's, what's important for you to know is right now, the Democrats, this, this is all they have.
02:39All they have is the conflict that's going on on the other side.
02:45So they are like, you'll notice certain alignments happening where all of a sudden CNN is now covering Epstein.
02:53Didn't do it before.
02:54And you see, you'll start seeing these like liberal alignments because they want to, they want the fractions.
03:00They want people to break apart.
03:02You don't want to give them that.
03:03So even when there's certain things that are happening that are upsetting to you, you have to step back, look at the big picture.
03:09Don't lose sight of the changes that you're experiencing and how together, like I want to take, I have to take umbrage with Tucker Carlson.
03:19Go ahead.
03:20All right.
03:21Whom, whom I love.
03:23Um, when he said that the, uh, getting, uh, boys out of girls sports was an appetizer.
03:29Well, hell, I could eat appetizers all day.
03:32Like, I, that to me is a really big deal.
03:40And you got to understand, I was talking about the, uh, issue of transgenderism and, and boys and women's sports when people weren't talking about it.
03:49And I was getting a lot of crap for it.
03:51People kept asking me, why do you keep bringing this up?
03:53Why do you keep bringing this up?
03:55And I say, because you compel me to, I don't want to think about this.
04:00This was never on my agenda, but the moment pronouns came out, I realized, wait, you're compelling me to think a certain way.
04:08And that's a, that's a line you can't cross.
04:11You may think it's a side issue, but the bigger issue is compelling you to obey.
04:19That was it.
04:20So the appetizer, you got to eat that appetizer to get to the main course, or you can take all the appetizers and make a main course.
04:30That to me was probably the big issue for me.
04:33And it allows us to speak freely about one of the biggest delusions, one of the biggest hoaxes of our time.
04:40The idea that there are trans kids that you need to operate on, which 10 years from now, 20 years from now, there will be people that will be embarrassed to even, like, admit they believed it.
04:53They will act like it never happened.
04:55Well, and not only that, there are detransitioners here at this event.
04:58I think Chloe Cole is here somewhere.
05:00And it is, it's not an insignificant portion of the population.
05:05And by the way, to your kind of analogy about President Trump and the good he's doing in his administration, Greg, we need to make it a goal, hopefully by the end of this administration, we are going to end every gender-affirming care clinic and child butchery in this country.
05:19We're not going to allow it to happen.
05:21It's a, you know, it's a, it's a good lesson that you're learning when you're young is pay attention to language.
05:29Uh, think about the phrase, gender-affirming care.
05:36No, it sounds wonderful.
05:40You're affirming a gender.
05:42That is your, I guess that is your warning that it's something awful.
05:47Whenever the language, um, camouflages its actual meaning, you cannot say, uh, irreversible surgery and put high-risk hormones.
05:59You say gender-affirming, affirming as the positive.
06:02They do this with everything.
06:03Let's remember that, you know, abortion is now pro-choice because pro-choice is an affirming phrase.
06:09So you always have to look at that and see, okay, what is underneath it?
06:14It's part of, it's part of the, I think, the education of your brain, learning to question the actual words they use first and foremost.
06:23Yeah, and, I mean, there's so many other examples.
06:25I mean, they'll use undocumented immigrant.
06:27Yes, they will correct people on other networks if you say illegal immigrant.
06:31Somebody tried to do that to me on Fox once.
06:33I can't remember who they were, Geraldo.
06:35But, um, uh, it is like, again, why, so, it's almost like they can't tackle the issue, so they dance on the edge of the issue.
06:47The words.
06:48Yeah, they use virtue signaling bullying over semantics.
06:51Yes, exactly.
06:52You don't use my word, therefore you're a bad person.
06:54Yes.
06:55And, and by the way, the way that we should talk about gender affirming care, child castration and medieval butchery.
07:02How's that for language changes?
07:04You know, uh.
07:05Do you think we're getting better at language on the right?
07:07Well, I think part, I think the, the great thing is that we're no longer, uh, afraid of sharing the risk.
07:15And, I, you know, people like you, Charlie, uh, and even, and, and Trump, people have to be the, you know, the tip of the spear.
07:22A lot of people were too, like, you take the issue like trans, you don't want to be bullied online by people, by, if you say what you feel.
07:29Like, if you think about the athletes that were too, too timid to say they didn't want to change in front of a guy.
07:36They didn't want to share the risk with the, you know, the Riley Gaines, the people who did take the risk.
07:41But what you're seeing is what, it's, it's a natural thing.
07:44When you see somebody that you know taking a risk, you're more likely to share that risk with them.
07:51So, what's happening is now, because we are sharing the risk and being able to say what we want, the language changes.
07:59And that's a new phenomenon, Greg.
08:00So, you've been coming to our events seven, eight years-ish, right?
08:03Yeah.
08:03And.
08:04In my, back when I was in my early 20s.
08:06Sure.
08:07Yeah.
08:07When I was in my early 20s, not you.
08:10But, Greg, something has changed profoundly.
08:15When you first started coming to these events, first of all, the crowds were much smaller.
08:18Right.
08:19But the energy was different because there was campus rebellion energy that still exists here.
08:25But culturally, Greg, it's kind of as if we're winning.
08:30Am I allowed to say that?
08:31In fact, I believe, we talked about this, I think the first time I was here, and I had written about this, I don't know, 20 years ago, about the ability to flip the script.
08:45You guys, hopefully, will never grow up in a time where everybody on the right was seen as evil.
08:51I mean, you kind of do now.
08:52But when I was growing up, you, in every movie, in every TV show, it was the person who believed in law and order, the conservative who was seen as evil.
09:02For example, the person on the left was seen as hip and cool.
09:07This has completely flipped.
09:09A lot of it has to do with humor.
09:11Now, who are the humorless people?
09:13It's a complete flip.
09:15The least funny people on the planet, on the planet, are liberals.
09:20They're literally...
09:21It's hard, it's hard to take a joke when you are the joke, and they can't, they cannot see that they're the joke.
09:30Meanwhile, the best thing you can do when you're in conflict with anyone is to have fun.
09:38While, I watch Charlotte, when you do those, when you talk to people, you're never angry.
09:43You don't, it's not like you're judging the person, you're just having fun.
09:47This is an example that I, a comparison I use with, when fans of Obama talk about Obama, they talk about him in solemn terms.
09:58In serious terms.
10:00That's so true.
10:01When people who like Trump talk about him, they're laughing.
10:06We, and I stole this line from Michael Malice, we don't, whenever Trump says something, I go, we don't deserve him.
10:13He, we, he, no matter what he does, you can't help but smile, and when you're defending him, it's fun.
10:22When you're not defending him, it's even fun.
10:25I mean, it's like, for example, he just did a, uh, he posted on Truth Social about stripping, um, Rosie, what's her name again?
10:33Rosie O'Donnell's citizenship, which is impossible.
10:37We know it's impossible.
10:39We know it's hilarious, but it makes news, and you see all the people on, uh, the, the liberal blog, social media, pulling their hair out.
10:47You know, autocracy, he wants to strip Rosie O'Donnell of her citizen.
10:52No, he doesn't.
10:53He's just sticking his finger in your eye, and we love every minute of it.
10:57But, so, let, let's go a step further.
11:02I, I want to analyze the psychology of humor a little bit more.
11:06Is it fair to say that, that those that can't take a joke are insecure, and that the left is actually full of a lot of people that are hyper-credentialed, over-educated, in an upper-middle-class environment, but deeply down or very insecure?
11:23Yeah, I mean, you, you kind of described what they appear to be, but you, yeah, but you want to know what's underneath it.
11:32And, you know, I think about that a lot, and I think about, you know, when I was, uh, in high school, I was a liberal, and I think one of the things I, I liked about it was that it was, it, we didn't have a name for it.
11:45It was virtue signaling, but it was easy status.
11:50If you wanted status, high status from a teacher, you, uh, push a, a liberal perspective in your debates or in your term papers.
12:01So, the idea, excuse me, I had a burger, um, the, um, if, you know, if, what is important to you is status.
12:17I need to know that everybody around me likes me.
12:22Then I will look at what is popular, and I will echo that.
12:28That's how liberalism kind of works.
12:31One of the things I always tell young conservatives, like, what hap, what do I do when I'm outnumbered, when I'm there and I'm being ganged up on by three or four people?
12:39And I always say, ask them why it's so important that I, that I agree with you.
12:46Yeah.
12:47Why is it, why do you need me, why is it so important that I should agree with you?
12:51And then you might say, I think, if you're looking for, if you're looking for reassurance that you are right, I'm the wrong person.
13:00And it's a very simple way of, because, because they have to lead, they have, they should ask themselves, why is it important that you agree with me?
13:07Because they themselves aren't sure.
13:11They are not sure.
13:11It goes to the insecurity.
13:13But it has to do with a desire to be cool, i.e. status.
13:17But they, they, they then mistake what is cool, which is, they think it's rebellion, but it's actually, uh, false rebellion.
13:26What is rebellious, what is truly rebellious, is rebelling against the rebellion.
13:32That means, if the guy says, look, dude, I, um, you know, I think that, like, the police suck, I'm going to throw rocks at ice, because I'm a rebel, the true rebel tells that guy to fuck off.
13:46Excuse my language.
13:46But, so, what, what conservatism is, has always been rebellion against rebellion.
13:56And that is, that is the real risk in life, because you will be unpopular among the, the midwits, the lower intellect, the people who think they're, anybody who thinks they're smarter than you isn't.
14:10And they know that, so that is why, that is why they adhere to, um, easy status through virtue signaling that then they don't do anything about.
14:22They can talk about climate change all they want, but then, if, you know, their best friend scores first class tickets for spring break, they're on that plane.
14:31Well, and Greg, you said something a couple years ago when we chatted, and, and it's so important, which is, and I've tried to apply this rule.
14:38It doesn't apply perfectly, but when you see a social movement that continues to push forward when there is high social cost, they're worth at least listening to.
14:49So, when there is a movement of people, and they're getting canceled, they're smeared, potentially imprisoned, and they keep fighting for that thing, you should hear them out.
14:59Yes.
14:59And this is the point of the kids on campus where you're, are surrounded by libs being like, why do you think I believe?
15:04My life's not easier because of this.
15:06You're reminding me of something I said that I would have completely forgotten.
15:11You're welcome.
15:11I'm, I'm, I'm the second part.
15:12No, it's, it's such, it's actually a really great point.
15:16I know, that's why.
15:16It came from me.
15:18It's like, do you ever wonder why I would risk this?
15:22Yes.
15:23Do you ever think to yourself, I'm outnumbered by you?
15:25Do you ever ask yourself, why would this person do this?
15:29Aren't you the least bit curious about that?
15:32That usually really can freeze somebody.
15:34It's complete cognitive dissonance, right?
15:37And so.
15:37I'm glad you remembered that.
15:38See, this is the problem with getting old.
15:40I can't remember my best stuff.
15:43That's why I'm here.
15:44Thanks.
15:44I remember your stuff for you.
15:45But let's dive deeper into that.
15:46So think about it.
15:48If you're ever outnumbered, instead of talking about politics or stuff, just say, listen, my view comes at a high social cost on this college campus.
15:57Yeah.
15:57High social cost.
15:58How many kids here are graded differently because you're conservative views?
16:02Raise your hand.
16:03Okay.
16:04Almost every student's hand goes up.
16:06So therefore, you're making a conscious decision to suffer to some degree for a transcendent value.
16:13Yeah.
16:14And you should tell your lib friends or whatever, I could have comfort if I conform.
16:21Yes.
16:21So why don't I?
16:22Yes.
16:22I could actually get better grades like you if I said what you said, but I'm not.
16:27Isn't that kind of interesting to you?
16:29I think it's good.
16:30Yeah.
16:30It's kind of like, you know, I mean, I'm pro-life and I mean, I run into the, you know, most people I know in my industry are pro-choice.
16:47And I know when I know that I'm always, always outnumbered and, but I, I, I always, I'm always like, don't you even wonder like why?
16:59Like you seem to agree with a lot of things I say.
17:02You think that I'm a smart person?
17:04Do you think I'm just crazy on one thing?
17:07Like, Oh, he's really good on the economy.
17:10He's really good on foreign policy.
17:12He's a, he can write well, but he's completely nuts on unborn children.
17:18That doesn't really logically make sense.
17:20You know, you know, what's interesting about really, really smart pro-choice person people?
17:25They admit it's murder.
17:27Oh, I find this on campus.
17:28They have to.
17:29Yeah.
17:29They have to, have to go, look, you know what?
17:31I'm not going to argue what it is murder, but I'm still for it.
17:34That was a kind of a, that was like the liberal comedian way of dealing with it.
17:39I think I, I, I, almost every smart comedian, when they talk about abortion will not deny that it's murder.
17:44And then everyone laughs at the, you know, comic club.
17:46I guess that makes it okay.
17:47Yeah.
17:47At least you're being honest.
17:49But this is another important point that Greg is making, that if you have earned social trust with people in your circle,
17:55defending that view that might be seemingly unpopular can convert that whole social circle to be a conservative.
18:04Yes.
18:04Because they'll think, wow, this is a good person.
18:07It's not just being right.
18:08It's also character.
18:09Yes.
18:10Right.
18:10You know, it's a, this is a really, a really good point.
18:13And, um, for example, uh, if you're in an office and you're working, um, being an appealing person there,
18:27it's like a young person will come in and they're, and when a young person starts at work, they're looking for somebody,
18:34not necessarily a mentor, but somebody that like they can kind of identify with, make them feel at ease.
18:39And when you're that person and every, every single person has that, like when I got to,
18:44when I first started working at men's health or, or, uh, at prevention magazine or different places,
18:50I identified, I, I would boil it down to this.
18:54When you see, you'll see somebody you work with and you go, I want what that person has.
19:00Like, what is it about them that makes them confident and, and, and, and strong and, and cool?
19:07Like, it's weird.
19:08Like, you know, the word cool originated, originated from the word calm.
19:13A lot of people don't know.
19:14It's like, you're always looking for the calm person in the storm.
19:18And when you're that per, when you are that person, people want to know why.
19:22This is why being hyster, like being politically hysterical doesn't win, win, um, uh, followers.
19:29It's like, Charlie, if you're calm, people are interested.
19:33So, but getting back to the point about character.
19:34If somebody, if somebody sees that everything that you're doing is working and then they find out that you have an opinion that they detest.
19:46Like, the perfect thing is Trump.
19:48It's great when you, when, when the most successful person in the group, they find out is a Trump supporter and they go, my God, you're an idiot.
19:55And he goes, yeah, I'm an idiot.
19:57Uh, have you seen where I live?
20:00Have you seen my family?
20:01So they have to, like, all of a sudden start re-end, like, reconfiguring the way they think.
20:05Did you see that HBO, uh, the, the part of, with that show White Lotus or something?
20:09Yes.
20:10There was like a three-minute clip.
20:11I don't watch the show.
20:12When they found out that the, the, the women found out that, like, their old friend, they, they love and they adore.
20:18All of a sudden she's, like, very quietly, like, doesn't deny, didn't even say she didn't deny she voted for Trump?
20:24Yes.
20:24Yeah.
20:25And anyway, from a drama standpoint, it was so beautifully written.
20:28Yeah, it was, it was nice.
20:29It, it, it's like, I think that they're coming to grips with the idea that they kind of, like, they went too far in the world of demonizing.
20:37I may, you're making me think of something about, like, uh, when, when, um, like, I've lost friends, uh, people that you probably know, like, people that I've worked with, uh, over, uh, Trump.
20:50And whenever somebody, and I'll, I'll see it in interviews, they'll ask, what happened to Godfield?
20:55And they go, oh, man, he, like, you know, he knew where, he knew, uh, where his bread was buttered.
21:01Oh, he's, he's, it's, it was his way to climb the ladder.
21:04And it's like, I, I watch people try to figure out why.
21:09Like, why do I support Trump without ever actually honestly asking why everybody does?
21:17It's like, it's like, only the, I think the, the belief is only dumb people do.
21:22But when a smart person does it, it's because they're selling out.
21:24And what's so funny is if they stopped coping and started understanding, which is what I did, they would actually be in a better place.
21:34You remember, I was, I was, um, I knew Trump before he ran.
21:38I liked him.
21:38I, I did not support him when he ran in, in, uh, I'd say 2015.
21:42But a lot of it was a coping thing.
21:45It was a personal issue with me.
21:47And I, and like, I suddenly realized what is going on here of a, I had a sunk cost that I'd already, when you express criticism for something over and over again and you realize you might be wrong, you don't want to let go.
22:03It's a, it's the sunk cost.
22:05It's like being in a bad marriage or a bad relationship.
22:07You think about all that effort you put into it.
22:10So that made it hard to say, but what was great and what was wonderful is that when he won, I said, great, he's my president.
22:18Now I can start clean.
22:19And what, what, what, the reason why I was having issues with him was I, I fell into the trap of taking him literally paying attention to words and not deeds.
22:30And then when he became president, it was like that, I, and I started using that as a mantra on my show.
22:36It's deeds, not words.
22:38If you know, it's not about his tweets, it's about, is your life getting better?
22:41And that's what like completely, that framework changed me and it made me see that I had been like obsessed with something so stupid that I turned out, ended up, I really liked, which are his tweets.
22:56And, and so the, the Trump phenomenon, I want to, I want to touch on two final things in our time remaining.
23:03The Democrats are trying to figure out what they're doing.
23:05I mean, look, the Democrat, Donald Trump controls the Democrat platform.
23:08He just has to do something.
23:09They do the opposite, right?
23:10The Democrat platform is completely controlled by Donald Trump.
23:13Yes, exactly.
23:13No, they will do the, they will do, if he says, if he told the Democrats, don't punch yourself in the face, they will start smacking the, they'll just break their own noses.
23:26You know what it is?
23:27It's the, it's the, he, he, when you choose common sense as your higher, it's, it's called the high ground maneuver.
23:35Whatever, what can, let's say your opponent chooses the, the path of common sense.
23:42What do you choose to oppose it?
23:45Uh, not common sense.
23:47That's what they're doing.
23:48They don't, because there's nothing, if you choose, the common sense is the higher ground.
23:53There's nothing around it to, to stand on.
23:57So you're stuck doing really stupid things.
24:00You're, on every 80 or 90, 20, 10 issue, you're choosing the bad guy.
24:06You're choosing the Maryland dad.
24:08You know, it's, you're choosing gangs.
24:11You're choosing, uh, pot farmers.
24:14Because you can't, you can't match it.
24:17You can't employ child labor.
24:18Yeah, so, which I'm for, by the way.
24:20Those kids need to get strong.
24:22You know what I'm saying?
24:23It's underrated.
24:25Their little hands are really good with fixing watches.
24:31Clip that, please, and, uh, put that up there.
24:33Greg, Greg endorses child labor.
24:36Yes.
24:37Greg, you, you will get more clips from Media Matters than me in this conversation, so.
24:41Oh, because they're clipping.
24:43So, so, Greg, but you live in New York City.
24:45That is correct.
24:46And you are witnessing the rise of an attempt by the Democrats to figure themselves out.
24:53Yes.
24:54I'm obviously talking about Andrew Cuomo.
24:56Yeah.
24:58No, but, so, Mom Donnie.
25:02Yeah, so.
25:06God, you guys just misunderstand the guy.
25:09You know, that's what, that's what the Dems are trying to do now.
25:11Uh, with, whenever a new socialist comes up, they act like,
25:15it's a, it's like, oh, no, this is a better version.
25:18There's no such thing as a better version.
25:20It's like, it's like chat GPT 4.0.
25:22Yes, exactly.
25:22It's going to keep getting better.
25:24Yeah, it's a, it's a, it's learning.
25:26That's not shit.
25:27That's shit 4.0.
25:28It's still shit.
25:29I got to use that for my show.
25:36They'll just have to bleep it, though.
25:37So you're on cable.
25:38Yes, so they'll probably bleep it.
25:41But they, they always, um, they always, like, the, the issue with socialism is they always
25:45believe that it's, you know, it just hasn't been perfected.
25:48Well, that was the whole point of capitalism.
25:50Capitalism doesn't have to be perfect to work.
25:53The only way socialism can work is if it's perfect.
25:56And that's not possible.
25:58It's not possible.
25:59The thing that kills me is they keep talking about, you know, he's really hit the court on
26:04affordability.
26:05You cannot find one example in history where socialism has made anything affordable.
26:11It's only made things awful and good things more scarce and therefore more expensive.
26:19So, well, on his grocery store plan, to his credit, I love that.
26:23I will say, New Yorkers will lose 15 pounds in, like, six months on his grocery store plan.
26:27I mean, there'll be no food.
26:29The only thing that can make the Department of Motor Vehicles worse is if they sold food.
26:35I mean, you get your number, wait for two hours for bananas.
26:38I mean, I'm sure there are people here from, like, Pennsylvania, where you have ABC liquor
26:43stores.
26:43I never knew that growing up in the West Coast.
26:45Then I moved to Allentown, and I never seen a government-run liquor store.
26:50And they are depressing.
26:51I didn't know that.
26:52You would quit drinking.
26:53But do you know what I do encounter in New Jersey is basically pseudo-run gas stations.
26:59You have to have an attendant pump your gas.
27:01Oh, yes.
27:02Like, what is that?
27:03There's, like, the oldest regulation.
27:05You've got to wait for the guy, and he's using the restroom.
27:07Like, I have to go.
27:08Oh, he's, like, I think it's that law still exists.
27:10This is why I drive straight through Jersey.
27:13Quickly.
27:14Quickly.
27:15Oh, I was going to say another thing about, oh, the one thing people have done, Zoran,
27:20the one thing that people are overlooking is that he says police officers should not respond
27:25to crime, that they should send people who are trained in it.
27:28So when you have a subway maniac who throws a woman in front of a train or one setting them
27:34on fire, you shouldn't send the police.
27:35You should send a social worker.
27:37I think that journalists should go find these social workers he's talking about.
27:42None exist.
27:43There's no social worker, no matter how liberal they are, will ever want to go down to the
27:48subway and address a maniac.
27:51And it, again, it's another case of a left winger throwing women, literally, in this
27:57case, under the bus.
28:00Under the subway.
28:01Under the subway.
28:02So, so, Greg, in the couple minutes we have, there's two things, I do want to hit one, I
28:06want to hit two things quick.
28:08I want you to give kind of a send-off for the college students at the end.
28:11But first, you're a new dad?
28:14Yes.
28:18Yeah.
28:18And I was joking backstage, he did have his first kid, finally, before Social Security
28:24hit.
28:25Yes, that was my goal.
28:27So I had my, I have a baby girl, seven months old, at the age of 60, which is, I still don't
28:39know, it's impressive, I'm like, it, it, it, you know what the thing.
28:42For multiple reasons, that's impressive.
28:43Yeah, it is multiple.
28:44But I think that, you know, I think I realized that I would have been a lousy dad 10 years
28:48ago, 20 years ago, and then I don't know what it was, I just realized, I think I can
28:52be a good dad now.
28:53I don't know what it was.
28:55That's my only explanation for why, I just never thought I would be, well, I party pretty
29:00hard.
29:01So I think, I had to like, you know what, now I'm a normal person, I'm going to do, you
29:05know, I can do it now.
29:06But I was a very selfish, I'd say in my 30s, I think that's, you know, there's your advice.
29:12The most important thing you can do is don't be selfish.
29:14I think I, I led a fairly, fairly selfish life in my 20s and my 30s, and the most important
29:19thing, probably the most selfish thing you can do is to be of service to other people,
29:24because the, the high you get from that is amazing, and it's going to make you a better
29:29person.
29:30I, I led my, I, I think I, most of my life was, it was a purely transactional, what can
29:36I get out of things?
29:37And I think that's why I, you know, I think I felt like I've grown a lot in the last, boy,
29:42I'm getting serious.
29:43Shut up, Greg.
29:45So let's go deeper, Greg.
29:47All right, Dr. Phil.
29:48How has it changed?
29:49You know, I have a doll here I'd like to show you.
29:52Yes, exactly.
29:52But, but all kidding aside, I mean, has it given you more purpose to your life?
29:58Well, yeah.
29:59And I mean, it, you end up being a cliche.
30:03That's the thing.
30:04It's like, the cliche is the person who says, my God, when I had a child, it changed my life.
30:10Well, it's a cliche because it's true.
30:14It's a, what's called a transformational experience, which is like, you, you don't know what it's
30:18like until you do it.
30:19And it's a, and it's a shame because there's a lot of people who, you know, terminate children
30:24without ever knowing that if they had the child, they would have, thank God, they, they didn't
30:30listen to themselves.
30:32But that's, you know.
30:33Well, and I'll say, Greg, I want to just say, we watch you.
30:38Thank you for standing for the unborn.
30:40The fight for pro-life is more important than ever.
30:42It is.
30:43Truly.
30:43You got it.
30:44No, that's real, that's really big.
30:45Final thoughts, Greg.
30:48Final thoughts.
30:49Well, I think like the most important thing, and you're kind of already doing it, is to
30:52have fun.
30:53You're the fun generation.
30:55This isn't like, I didn't grow up with this.
30:58You know, we, as a right winger, I had a hide and all the left wingers were the cool kids.
31:04Now it's flipped.
31:06So enjoy the flip.
31:08Greg Gutfeld, everybody.
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