“Fred and Rose West: The Most Sadistic Killer Couple in History

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Fred and Rose West are known as Britain’s most sadistic killer couple, whose horrifying crimes shocked the world. In this true crime video, we explore how this seemingly ordinary pair turned their home into a house of unspeakable horror.  From manipulation and torture to murder, this deep dive exposes the twisted minds behind some of the most disturbing serial killings in UK history.  👀 What you’ll learn:  Who were Fred and Rose West?  How they lured their victims  The shocking details of the “House of Horrors”  The investigation that finally brought them down   ⚠️ Viewer discretion is strongly advised.  👉 Subscribe for more true crime stories, disturbing cases, and unsolved mys

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00:00:00Crime, conspiracy, cults, and murder.

00:00:02All things that I love to consume on a regular basis.

00:00:08And things of which I like to talk about with you

00:00:10because I find them fascinating and I know you do too

00:00:13because you're watching me.

00:00:15And today I thought we'd delve into something

00:00:17I have not talked about yet on this channel

00:00:19and that is a couple serial killers.

00:00:22Not a couple serial killers.

00:00:23Serial killers who are a couple.

00:00:26Specifically Fred and Rose West.

00:00:28Names synonymous with horror, depravity, and unspeakable acts.

00:00:33This was a married couple that collectively murdered

00:00:35up to 30 young women over the span of two decades.

00:00:39Together they would build a torture dungeon

00:00:42in their home at 25 Cromwell Street

00:00:44in the small English town of Gloucester.

00:00:47Sorry if I said that wrong.

00:00:49And it is there that they would murder runaways,

00:00:51hitchhikers, and even family

00:00:52as a part of their regular sexual life.

00:00:55Treating these strangers as nothing more than trash.

00:00:58And it is at this address

00:00:59where they would dispose of the girls as well.

00:01:01In this video we will delve into

00:01:03the chilling chronicles of their lives

00:01:05from their births to their eventual demise.

00:01:09So let's unbuckle our seatbelts,

00:01:10go Mach 5 down the highway,

00:01:12slam on the brakes,

00:01:13and dive through this windshield

00:01:14into this match made in hell together.

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00:03:58Also, I know I am not in my regular space.

00:04:00I am in Texas and I do look like I am Oompaville,

00:04:03but I'm not.

00:04:04I am just in his space using his stuff

00:04:06because I don't have mine yet.

00:04:08So we're just gonna,

00:04:09we're gonna have this questionable background for today.

00:04:13So let's start with Fred West.

00:04:15Fred was born on September 29th, 1941

00:04:18in a rural town of McMarkle, England.

00:04:21Again, sorry if I said that wrong.

00:04:22To a very, very poor family.

00:04:24His parents were named Walter and Daisy West.

00:04:27And although those names sound very pleasant,

00:04:30they were in fact the exact opposite.

00:04:32Not only were they hideous on the inside,

00:04:34they were hideous on the outside as well.

00:04:36Being called literal ogres by people that knew them.

00:04:40And don't take my word for it.

00:04:42Look at them for yourself.

00:04:43I can only make fun of them

00:04:44because I know they're literal pieces of shit.

00:04:46So Fred would be the firstborn of five children.

00:04:49One of which was a raging psychopath,

00:04:52just like Fred.

00:04:53And his name was John West.

00:04:54He was later found to be a possible accomplice

00:04:57to Fred and Rose West later on

00:04:59for the grapes and murders

00:05:02committed against Fred and Rose's victims.

00:05:04But that's actually very new information.

00:05:06So we don't have a lot on that right now.

00:05:08So for now, we're gonna focus on Fred.

00:05:09So Fred's family was the epitome of poverty,

00:05:12turmoil, and mistreatment.

00:05:14If you were to know nothing about his crimes as an adult

00:05:17and just heard about his childhood,

00:05:19you could guess pretty quick

00:05:20that this kid was gonna grow up pretty fucked up

00:05:23and into some weird ass shit.

00:05:25Not that there's anything wrong with growing up poor.

00:05:27I think a lot of us did

00:05:28and turned out not to, you know,

00:05:30murder everyone we know.

00:05:32But when it's coupled with

00:05:33and brainwashing and severe head trauma,

00:05:37it might lead to a different story

00:05:39like it did for Fred.

00:05:40Not making excuses for him, by the way.

00:05:42I hate this man with all of my being.

00:05:45But I think the history of these people

00:05:47becoming who they are is extremely interesting.

00:05:49So like I said, Fred's parents were far from well off

00:05:52and were even further from being sane.

00:05:54But before anything crazy

00:05:56happened to Fred,

00:05:58he was known to be a very boring and dull child

00:06:01and would routinely get bullied

00:06:02and beat up by his peers in school.

00:06:05Along with his teachers,

00:06:06you know, back in the good old days

00:06:08when your teachers beat you

00:06:09for not writing a cursive word correctly.

00:06:12So because he got beat up so much in school,

00:06:15his mother would often step in and come to his aid

00:06:18and he would become quite the mommy's boy.

00:06:21And this was more true than anyone could imagine.

00:06:24Because when he turned 12 years old,

00:06:27Daisy West began having

00:06:29sexual inter-you-know-what

00:06:31with her oldest son, Fred,

00:06:33aka mommy's boy.

00:06:35And this was normal for them.

00:06:38Obviously, Fred didn't know any better

00:06:39because he was a little child at the time,

00:06:42but it was not incredibly unusual for the time

00:06:45for this to be taking place in families

00:06:48in this area specifically as well.

00:06:50Don't get me wrong,

00:06:51most people did find this appalling

00:06:53and it wasn't necessarily normal

00:06:55or that everybody did it,

00:06:57but there was more families

00:06:58than you would like to believe

00:06:59that practiced this stuff.

00:07:02More so between cousins

00:07:03doing the dirty with each other,

00:07:04not necessarily, you know, mothers and sons,

00:07:07but it still flew under the radar

00:07:09amongst a lot of people.

00:07:11Fred's father, on the other hand,

00:07:12told and encouraged Fred

00:07:14to use and other children.

00:07:17He said that it was just the natural thing to do.

00:07:19And Fred would internalize this

00:07:21to the fullest extent

00:07:23and terrorize other kids in the neighborhood

00:07:25as much as he could.

00:07:26Even after he was caught and scolded

00:07:28about assaulting multiple girls in the community,

00:07:32he was bewildered by the fact

00:07:34that anyone really cared.

00:07:35Him saying that,

00:07:36well, everyone did it,

00:07:37so why can't I do it?

00:07:39That's kind of what he sounded.

00:07:40That's not exactly what he sounded like.

00:07:41That's what he's going to sound like

00:07:42in this video, right?

00:07:43As a 12-year-old.

00:07:44So you'll start to see how Fred's family

00:07:46basically groomed him

00:07:48to believe anyone besides yourself

00:07:50is disposable playthings

00:07:52that you can use

00:07:53and throw out anytime

00:07:54with zero repercussions.

00:07:56Now, by 15, Fred left school

00:07:58barely able to read or write

00:08:00above a second grade level.

00:08:02And although dumb and cruel,

00:08:03people did think

00:08:04he was one of the best-looking teens in town.

00:08:08What the f***?

00:08:08And for the most part,

00:08:10besides occasionally trying to be a creep

00:08:12and girls and bullying other kids,

00:08:15he was probably going to stay

00:08:17a pretty mild criminal like his father,

00:08:20according to professionals

00:08:21that psyche-vowed him later in life

00:08:23and wouldn't become the sadistic murderer

00:08:25he was come to be known as.

00:08:27But what is assumed to have sparked

00:08:29those murderous, psychopathic,

00:08:31sadistic tendencies

00:08:32was an event that happened

00:08:34when he was 17 years old.

00:08:36One day, he was riding his motorcycle

00:08:38while a girl was riding her bicycle

00:08:39in the opposite direction toward him.

00:08:42And Fred, being the little f*** that he was,

00:08:44tried to intentionally run her over,

00:08:47but in doing so,

00:08:48he crashed his bike

00:08:49and flew over the handlebars,

00:08:50landing right on top of his head,

00:08:53putting him into a seven-day coma.

00:08:56Or should I say seven-day karma?

00:08:58Am I right?

00:08:59Anyway, and that injury

00:09:00to his frontal cortex alone

00:09:02would have probably put him right in

00:09:04with plenty of other serial killers,

00:09:06da brain chemistries.

00:09:08But this dumb little bastard

00:09:09ended up hitting his head again

00:09:11shortly after the first time he did.

00:09:14And this happened when he was trying

00:09:15to grab a girl on a balcony

00:09:17inappropriately, shocking, classic Fred.

00:09:20But she ended up punching him in the face

00:09:23and he ended up falling off

00:09:24the two-story building

00:09:25and landing on his head,

00:09:27losing consciousness again.

00:09:29So having two severe concussions

00:09:30back-to-back at the time.

00:09:32At this point,

00:09:32I think there was some higher power

00:09:34trying to get rid of Fred West,

00:09:37but this mother was gifted

00:09:38with the nine lives of a cat at birth.

00:09:41So I digress.

00:09:42So when Fred recovered from these injuries,

00:09:45everyone around him said

00:09:47that he changed for the worst,

00:09:49being more short-tempered

00:09:50and violent than before.

00:09:52And this is a very common thing

00:09:53among serial killers.

00:09:55For those of you who don't know,

00:09:56frontal lobe injuries

00:09:57in the early years of serial killers

00:09:59are said to be one of the causes

00:10:01of later crimes

00:10:02due to the reduction of size

00:10:04and activity in their prefrontal cortex.

00:10:06This is the area of the brain

00:10:07that's responsible for decision-making,

00:10:09impulse control, and empathy.

00:10:11And neurologists have studied at length

00:10:12that individuals who have undergone damage

00:10:15to their ventromedial frontal cortex

00:10:17and who had normal personalities

00:10:19before the damage

00:10:20developed abnormal social conduct

00:10:23leading to negative personal consequences.

00:10:25And although this is true

00:10:26for some serial killers,

00:10:28brain damage cannot be

00:10:29the motivator for serial killing alone.

00:10:32In fact, 46% of all confessed serial killers

00:10:35have no frontal damage

00:10:37or any brain damage at all.

00:10:39The majority admits

00:10:40that they were perfectly aware

00:10:41of the acts that they were doing

00:10:42before, during, and after

00:10:44committing the crimes.

00:10:45It's often a mixture of nature and nurture,

00:10:48but when both those aspects

00:10:49of their life are negative

00:10:50and you throw in

00:10:52a little frontal lobe injury,

00:10:54it's a recipe for disaster.

00:10:55Anyway, neurological lesson over.

00:10:57Let's get back to it.

00:10:58Now, after Fred sustained his head injuries,

00:11:00he started to go off the rails.

00:11:02When he was 19,

00:11:03he began having a relationship

00:11:05with a 13-year-old girl.

00:11:07That's a crime.

00:11:07And proceeded to also get her pregnant.

00:11:10That's also a crime.

00:11:11It's a two-for-one.

00:11:11And he would be arrested

00:11:13for this initially,

00:11:15saying that it was

00:11:16having unlawful,

00:11:17carnal knowledge of a child.

00:11:19Whatever that means.

00:11:20So after his charges in trial,

00:11:22Fred would quickly become known

00:11:24as the town brain-damaged,

00:11:26violent, child thief.

00:11:28And with this astounding reputation,

00:11:30believe it or not,

00:11:31he couldn't get a job.

00:11:32So he would move to another town

00:11:34called Ledbury

00:11:35and would do odd manual labor jobs

00:11:37in construction, mostly.

00:11:39And this would be the job

00:11:40he'd do for the most part

00:11:41in and during his adult life.

00:11:43And these would be the skills

00:11:44he'd use in building

00:11:46the torture chamber

00:11:47that came to be in his family home

00:11:49in the years to come as well.

00:11:51So Fred, now working

00:11:52and stealing in Ledbury,

00:11:54he was also a kleptomaniac.

00:11:56Can you believe it?

00:11:57He had an ex-girlfriend

00:11:58named Rina Costello

00:12:00return home from traveling.

00:12:02They had dated previously

00:12:03years before

00:12:04for a short period of time.

00:12:06And then she had left

00:12:07and then she had traveled back

00:12:08and they hit it off again.

00:12:09And also she was pregnant

00:12:11with a Glasgow bus driver's child.

00:12:13And after finding out

00:12:14the child would be mixed race,

00:12:16Fred took it upon himself

00:12:17to offer slash convince

00:12:20to abort the child

00:12:21for her in the woods.

00:12:23What a gentleman.

00:12:24But luckily,

00:12:24while he was performing

00:12:26the abortion in the woods,

00:12:28they would get caught by somebody

00:12:29and be forced to stop.

00:12:31And Fred would then agree

00:12:32to raise the child

00:12:33instead of trying to abort it.

00:12:35What a swell guy.

00:12:36So in 1962,

00:12:38Fred and Rina would get married.

00:12:40And can you believe it?

00:12:41The guy that wanted

00:12:42to rip out a child

00:12:43from the woman's body

00:12:44wasn't the best husband.

00:12:46Immediately after

00:12:47they got married,

00:12:48Fred treated Rina

00:12:49like a sexual object

00:12:51and nothing else.

00:12:53Demanding it constantly

00:12:54and treating her

00:12:55like she was less than human.

00:12:57Which you'll find

00:12:58a major pattern in

00:12:59with Fred's MO.

00:13:01And this next part

00:13:02probably seems like

00:13:03it's not important

00:13:04to the rest of this story.

00:13:06But Fred was a constant

00:13:08premature ejaculator.

00:13:10I'm sorry.

00:13:11And when I say premature,

00:13:13I mean literal seconds.

00:13:15He was known as the

00:13:16one pump and dump

00:13:17on the streets

00:13:18and in the sheets

00:13:19if you're picking up

00:13:20what I'm laying down.

00:13:21It wasn't actually known as that.

00:13:22I just wanted to say that.

00:13:23So life was shitty

00:13:24for everyone involved

00:13:25at this point.

00:13:26Mostly being Rina.

00:13:28But things would get

00:13:28substantially worse

00:13:30when Rina gave birth

00:13:31to that other man's

00:13:32mixed child

00:13:33in March of 1963.

00:13:36And the baby

00:13:36ended up being a girl

00:13:37and they named her Charmaine.

00:13:40Now Fred was too embarrassed

00:13:41to have a mixed race baby.

00:13:43So he would convince

00:13:44everybody in their neighborhood

00:13:46that Rina's child

00:13:47was a stillborn

00:13:48and that they got Charmaine

00:13:50in replacement

00:13:51of the stillborn.

00:13:52So it wasn't his kid,

00:13:54which it wasn't

00:13:54in the first place.

00:13:55He just didn't want

00:13:56to be associated

00:13:56with having a wife

00:13:58that had another man's

00:13:59child basically.

00:14:00But Fred would still

00:14:01hate the child

00:14:02and end up leaving Rina

00:14:03for a new life

00:14:04in Glasgow anyway.

00:14:06So none of it

00:14:07really mattered.

00:14:08And in Glasgow,

00:14:09he would somehow manage

00:14:10to become an even

00:14:11creepier piece of shit

00:14:12driving around

00:14:13an ice cream truck van

00:14:15as a new job.

00:14:17Just, it's,

00:14:17he's just a stereotype

00:14:18at this point.

00:14:19It's like a movie.

00:14:20This is like a true

00:14:21horror movie, truly.

00:14:22And we're not even,

00:14:23we're not even scraping

00:14:24the surface yet.

00:14:25Just hold tight.

00:14:26And with this truck,

00:14:26he tried to pick up

00:14:28teenage girls

00:14:29to get with

00:14:30in the truck.

00:14:32And it is unconfirmed

00:14:33how many girls

00:14:34he got successfully

00:14:35into the truck.

00:14:37And it's unknown

00:14:37how many he,

00:14:39but we know that

00:14:40once he did get them

00:14:41into the truck,

00:14:42he most likely dismembered

00:14:44and murdered them

00:14:45from crimes we will see

00:14:47in the future.

00:14:48After Fred would get arrested

00:14:50for his crimes with Rose

00:14:51later in the future,

00:14:53police would trace him

00:14:54back to living in Glasgow.

00:14:55At the same time,

00:14:56four young girls

00:14:57fitting Fred's victim type

00:15:00went missing

00:15:00without a trace.

00:15:01So we can comfortably assume

00:15:03that he was responsible

00:15:05for that,

00:15:05but we don't know for sure.

00:15:07They would also find out

00:15:08that he had a garden plot

00:15:09in the community garden

00:15:10that he would demand

00:15:12be kept clear

00:15:13from everybody

00:15:13in the community

00:15:14for something special.

00:15:16That's something special

00:15:17most likely being

00:15:18the girls that he murdered.

00:15:20And we also can assume that

00:15:22because that's how

00:15:22he disposed of bodies

00:15:23in the future

00:15:24when he murdered girls

00:15:25with Rose West as well.

00:15:26And by the time police

00:15:27would find Fred's

00:15:28first victim,

00:15:29they could clearly see

00:15:31that he had murdered before

00:15:33so they could safely assume

00:15:35that he had murdered girls

00:15:36in Glasgow as well.

00:15:37But they couldn't check this

00:15:39because by the time

00:15:41they learned about

00:15:41these murders

00:15:42and about the garden

00:15:43that was in Glasgow,

00:15:44there was 13 lanes of traffic

00:15:46built over top

00:15:47of the garden.

00:15:48So we'll never know for sure.

00:15:49Now, unfortunately,

00:15:50Rena would eventually

00:15:52join Fred again in Scotland

00:15:53and shortly after that

00:15:54become pregnant

00:15:55with Fred's first child

00:15:57and she would give birth

00:15:58to another girl

00:15:59named Anne-Marie.

00:16:01This guy was getting

00:16:02bitches pregnant

00:16:02left and right,

00:16:03by the way.

00:16:04You'll see in the story,

00:16:04I can't even remember

00:16:06how many kids he has.

00:16:07At least 10.

00:16:08Eight?

00:16:09I don't know.

00:16:09I can't remember.

00:16:10We'll get to it.

00:16:11But it's insane.

00:16:12And Fred would also get

00:16:13two other women

00:16:14in Glasgow pregnant

00:16:15and have two sons

00:16:17named Stephen and Garrett.

00:16:18And we'll hear about

00:16:19these boys later

00:16:20in the story as well.

00:16:21And Rena wasn't much better.

00:16:22I mean, she wasn't

00:16:23killing people or anything,

00:16:24but she would go off

00:16:26and sleep with

00:16:26another bus driver.

00:16:28This woman had a thing

00:16:29for bus drivers.

00:16:29I don't know what to tell you.

00:16:30And she would temporarily

00:16:31leave Fred for John,

00:16:34the bus driver.

00:16:35But eventually,

00:16:35she would do

00:16:36what she always does

00:16:37and return back

00:16:38to her original

00:16:39shit-stained husband, Fred.

00:16:40And you're probably wondering

00:16:41what the hell Fred did

00:16:43with all these kids

00:16:44that were running around

00:16:45while he was off

00:16:45murdering people

00:16:46and trying to get people

00:16:47into his ice cream truck

00:16:48and whatnot.

00:16:49Well, he would just

00:16:50drop them off

00:16:51out of babysitters.

00:16:52Just kidding.

00:16:52He dropped them off

00:16:53at foster care

00:16:54for days to weeks on end.

00:16:56So he would go through

00:16:57the trouble

00:16:57of putting his kids

00:16:59into the system

00:17:00so he could get

00:17:01his knob wet

00:17:02for 2.5 seconds

00:17:03uninterrupted

00:17:04and then he'd go grab him

00:17:06when he felt like it.

00:17:07Dad of the year, truly.

00:17:09Rena would also hire

00:17:10a live-in nanny

00:17:11to help.

00:17:11And also so Fred,

00:17:13you know,

00:17:13wouldn't keep putting

00:17:14his kids into foster care

00:17:15because he was

00:17:16a lazy piece of shit.

00:17:17And this nanny

00:17:17was named Issa McNeil.

00:17:19And from what Issa claimed,

00:17:21Fred used to make

00:17:22his two daughters

00:17:23sleep in the bottom bunk

00:17:24where there was two slats

00:17:26that pinned them

00:17:27into a literal frame

00:17:29like animals

00:17:30and they would only

00:17:31be let out

00:17:32when he went to work.

00:17:33So they were literally

00:17:34treated worse than dogs.

00:17:36And again,

00:17:37it gets just so much worse.

00:17:39And eventually,

00:17:40Issa would introduce

00:17:41Rena to a 16-year-old

00:17:42runaway named Anna McFall.

00:17:44And she would actually

00:17:45move into Fred

00:17:46and Rena's house as well.

00:17:48And you'll see this

00:17:49become a pattern

00:17:50and a tactic

00:17:51Fred and Rose

00:17:52would use

00:17:52to gather people

00:17:53in the future

00:17:54and they would gather

00:17:55people like this

00:17:56that they liked

00:17:57and then eventually

00:17:57dispose of them.

00:17:58But we'll get to that.

00:17:59And it was also

00:18:00around this time

00:18:01that Anna moved in

00:18:02with Fred

00:18:02that Fred would

00:18:04accidentally run over

00:18:06a boy

00:18:07with his ice cream truck

00:18:08and kill him

00:18:09but not be charged

00:18:11because that was just

00:18:12a thing that happened.

00:18:14Enough for him

00:18:14to just not get charged

00:18:16which is crazy.

00:18:18But after this incident,

00:18:19he decided

00:18:20he wanted to go back

00:18:21to Much Markle.

00:18:23Much Markle?

00:18:23Muck Markle?

00:18:24I'm sorry if I'm

00:18:25saying that wrong.

00:18:25Muck Markle.

00:18:26Rena would follow

00:18:27in toll

00:18:27with her two kids

00:18:28and Issa and Anna.

00:18:30But they all

00:18:31would collectively

00:18:31at this point

00:18:32live in a caravan.

00:18:34So naturally

00:18:35things were always

00:18:36filthy and disgusting

00:18:38and tense

00:18:39to say the least.

00:18:40I couldn't even

00:18:40spend two hours

00:18:41in a van

00:18:42with my entire family.

00:18:43I can't imagine

00:18:44the hellhole

00:18:44that this caravan was.

00:18:46So in 1966,

00:18:47Fred got a job

00:18:48at a slaughterhouse.

00:18:50Yeah.

00:18:50But this job

00:18:51was to actually

00:18:52move product

00:18:53from one place

00:18:54to another

00:18:54so he wasn't

00:18:55actually slaughtering

00:18:56anything

00:18:57but he was.

00:18:58But he was.

00:18:59It just wasn't animals.

00:19:00And at this point

00:19:01he was pretty comfy

00:19:02moving dead bodies around

00:19:04if you know

00:19:04what I'm saying.

00:19:05So while Fred

00:19:05was working

00:19:06at the slaughterhouse,

00:19:07Rena made a plan

00:19:08to go back

00:19:08to Glasgow

00:19:09to be with

00:19:09bus driver John

00:19:11again.

00:19:11Taking the kids

00:19:12and the nannies

00:19:13with her.

00:19:13But Fred

00:19:14would come back

00:19:14to them packing up

00:19:15everything that evening

00:19:16and threaten

00:19:17to kill them

00:19:19if they did ditch him.

00:19:20So Rena

00:19:21being the protective

00:19:22devoted mother

00:19:23that she was

00:19:24packed up her shit

00:19:25and got the hell

00:19:26out of Dodge

00:19:27and just left

00:19:27her kids behind

00:19:28with a

00:19:29murdering Fred.

00:19:31Anyway,

00:19:31so Rena

00:19:32left with Issa

00:19:33the babysitter

00:19:34and the kids

00:19:34were left

00:19:35with Fred

00:19:35and Anna.

00:19:36Anna decided

00:19:37to stay back

00:19:38because she was

00:19:38you know

00:19:39responsible

00:19:40and wanted

00:19:40to take care

00:19:41of the kids

00:19:42because their mother

00:19:42just left

00:19:43to go bounce

00:19:44up and down

00:19:44on a bus driver's

00:19:45prindle.

00:19:46But unfortunately

00:19:47this would prove

00:19:48to be a fatal

00:19:49decision for Anna.

00:19:50See Anna

00:19:51was somehow

00:19:52infatuated

00:19:53with Fred.

00:19:54Reasons

00:19:55are which

00:19:55unknown

00:19:56because

00:19:57I don't know.

00:19:58But it was

00:19:58most likely

00:19:58because she

00:19:59developed

00:19:59some sort

00:20:00of Stockholm

00:20:01syndrome

00:20:01with Fred

00:20:02both fearing

00:20:03and wanting

00:20:03him to love

00:20:04her even

00:20:05though he

00:20:05did horrible

00:20:06things to her.

00:20:07And when Rena

00:20:08would end up

00:20:08coming back

00:20:09to get her

00:20:10children

00:20:10after she was

00:20:11done you know

00:20:11bouncing up

00:20:12and down

00:20:12on the bus

00:20:13driver's

00:20:13prindle

00:20:13she would

00:20:14find that

00:20:14Fred and Anna

00:20:15were actually

00:20:16together.

00:20:17But Fred

00:20:17would gather

00:20:18a whopping

00:20:19eight essay

00:20:20charges against

00:20:21other women

00:20:22during this

00:20:22two-year period

00:20:23so he wasn't

00:20:24exactly the

00:20:25faithful type.

00:20:26But I wouldn't

00:20:27expect anything

00:20:28less from

00:20:28you know

00:20:29a murdering

00:20:30asshole.

00:20:31And also

00:20:31years and years

00:20:32after Fred

00:20:33got caught

00:20:34investigators

00:20:35would take

00:20:35another look

00:20:36at Fred's

00:20:36case and

00:20:37find that

00:20:37essentially

00:20:38everywhere he

00:20:39went there

00:20:40was a trail

00:20:40of missing

00:20:41bodies or

00:20:42cold cases

00:20:42in his wake.

00:20:44So police

00:20:44are almost

00:20:45certain

00:20:46Fred alone

00:20:47killed dozens

00:20:48more women

00:20:48than we know.

00:20:49So in 1967

00:20:50Anna fell

00:20:51pregnant with

00:20:52another one

00:20:52of Fred's

00:20:53children.

00:20:54Oh and I

00:20:54forgot to

00:20:55mention she's

00:20:5517.

00:20:56She's 17

00:20:57at this point.

00:20:57He loves

00:20:58getting children

00:20:59pregnant which

00:20:59is just

00:21:00terrible.

00:21:01And at this

00:21:01time he was

00:21:02around 26

00:21:03or 27.

00:21:04And speaking

00:21:04of crimes

00:21:05Anna would

00:21:05up and

00:21:06disappear in

00:21:07the summer

00:21:07of 1967.

00:21:09And Fred

00:21:10wouldn't be

00:21:10asked about it

00:21:11really because

00:21:12she was a

00:21:13runaway if you

00:21:13remember.

00:21:14And nobody

00:21:15really took

00:21:15notice or

00:21:16cared about

00:21:17runaways at

00:21:18that time.

00:21:18But her

00:21:18body would

00:21:19be discovered

00:21:20in 1994

00:21:2127 years

00:21:23later in

00:21:23Finger Post

00:21:24Field almost

00:21:25surgically

00:21:26dismembered with

00:21:27the head being

00:21:28detached from

00:21:29her body along

00:21:29with her limbs.

00:21:30And it was

00:21:31almost certainly

00:21:32not Fred's

00:21:33first kill.

00:21:34Fred also at

00:21:35some point had

00:21:35cut the unborn

00:21:36child out of

00:21:38Anna as well

00:21:39after death.

00:21:39Fred would

00:21:40confess that he

00:21:41would dismember

00:21:42their bodies

00:21:42because it

00:21:43made it easier

00:21:44to bury them

00:21:45in a more

00:21:46shallow grave.

00:21:47So he's not

00:21:47only a murdering

00:21:48piece of shit

00:21:49he's also a

00:21:50lazy piece of

00:21:51shit.

00:21:52In murdering

00:21:52and then dismembering

00:21:53the bodies as

00:21:54well he would

00:21:55also slice off

00:21:56the corpses

00:21:56fingers, toes,

00:21:58ankles, wrists

00:21:59and kneecaps.

00:22:01Although he would

00:22:02claim it was to

00:22:03make it harder

00:22:04to identify the

00:22:05bodies for the

00:22:06police if they

00:22:06ever found them

00:22:07police believe he

00:22:08just kept them

00:22:09for himself as

00:22:10trophies or

00:22:11possibly to

00:22:13consume.

00:22:13So Anna now

00:22:14being out of the

00:22:15picture and

00:22:16Rena growing tired

00:22:17of the bus

00:22:17driver, Rena

00:22:18decided to come

00:22:19back to Fred

00:22:20and start a new

00:22:21job.

00:22:22A job Fred very

00:22:23much encouraged

00:22:24her to do and

00:22:25that was to be a

00:22:26lady of the night

00:22:27if you know what

00:22:28I mean.

00:22:28Fred loved that

00:22:29Rena got into

00:22:30this kind of

00:22:31work.

00:22:32He was like a

00:22:32sick little 15

00:22:34year old school

00:22:35boy that liked to

00:22:36show off his

00:22:36girlfriend's nudes

00:22:37to his friends.

00:22:38He just loved to

00:22:39show all of her

00:22:40off to everyone

00:22:41that would look

00:22:42basically.

00:22:43And it was around

00:22:43this time that

00:22:44Fred picked up a

00:22:45girl named Mary

00:22:46Bastam and he

00:22:48would kill her.

00:22:49This would be a

00:22:49murder that Fred

00:22:50would confess to

00:22:51to his son

00:22:52Stephen after his

00:22:53arrest but the

00:22:54body was never

00:22:55found so he was

00:22:56never charged for

00:22:57it.

00:22:57Which also begs

00:22:58the question how

00:23:00many bodies did

00:23:00we not know about

00:23:01and it could be in

00:23:03the dozens.

00:23:04But shortly

00:23:04getting back with

00:23:05Rena, Fred somehow

00:23:06being the ladies

00:23:08man that he is

00:23:09found his one

00:23:10true love, his

00:23:11partner in crime,

00:23:13his match made

00:23:14in hell, the

00:23:14woman he'd create

00:23:15a murderous

00:23:16homemade dungeon

00:23:17with, Rose

00:23:18Pauline Letts.

00:23:20Now Rose Letts was

00:23:21born on November

00:23:2229th, 1953 in

00:23:24Northam, Devon,

00:23:26England to

00:23:26William Letts and

00:23:27Daisy Fuller.

00:23:29Yes, Rose and

00:23:29Fred both had

00:23:30mothers named

00:23:31Daisy but just

00:23:32like Fred's

00:23:33mother, Rose's

00:23:34mother Daisy was

00:23:35not so sweet as

00:23:36her name proclaimed.

00:23:38Rose's mother in

00:23:39fact suffered from

00:23:40postpartum depression

00:23:41after having four

00:23:43children and she

00:23:44would go on to

00:23:45have seven children

00:23:46in total but to

00:23:47cure her PPD

00:23:48doctors prescribed

00:23:50her electroconvulsive

00:23:52therapy.

00:23:53Therapy so intense

00:23:54that teeth would

00:23:55literally shatter out

00:23:56of patients mouths.

00:23:58Pretty sure that

00:23:58would cure you

00:23:59because all you

00:24:00could think about

00:24:01was the pain

00:24:02instead of your

00:24:03depression.

00:24:03But I digress.

00:24:04When Daisy was

00:24:05pregnant with Rose

00:24:06the doctors convinced

00:24:07her to continue

00:24:08these electroconvulsive

00:24:10therapy sessions.

00:24:12So Rose was

00:24:12literally just being

00:24:13microwaved in the

00:24:15womb and as a

00:24:16result of that

00:24:17Rose's brain was

00:24:18essentially being

00:24:19fried in utero.

00:24:21Shout out to

00:24:21Nirvana.

00:24:21Now did this make

00:24:23Rose a psychotic

00:24:24narcissistic murderer

00:24:26that she became?

00:24:28No.

00:24:28But it definitely

00:24:29played a small part

00:24:31in her brain not

00:24:32developing to its

00:24:33full potential.

00:24:34So having a not

00:24:35so premium brain

00:24:36coupled with the

00:24:37fact that she

00:24:37lived with literal

00:24:38monsters helped

00:24:40in facilitating who

00:24:41she became later

00:24:42in life.

00:24:42One of the bigger

00:24:43factors being

00:24:44meeting Fred.

00:24:45So as a child

00:24:46Rose was known

00:24:47to have a very

00:24:48dull empty

00:24:49doe-eyed look

00:24:50at her eyes.

00:24:51The 30-yard stare

00:24:52if you will.

00:24:53So her siblings

00:24:54would naturally

00:24:55make fun of her

00:24:56and call her

00:24:57Dozy Rosie

00:24:58which I think is

00:24:58actually a cute

00:24:59nickname for a

00:25:00terrible terrible

00:25:01human being.

00:25:02I hate this woman

00:25:03more than anything

00:25:03and you'll see.

00:25:04You'll see down the

00:25:05line.

00:25:05So Rose would

00:25:06naturally spend

00:25:06most of her time

00:25:07alone with her

00:25:08six hamsters.

00:25:10Who the f***

00:25:11has six hamsters?

00:25:12I don't know.

00:25:12Whatever.

00:25:12But what screwed

00:25:13up Rose most

00:25:14as a child

00:25:15was her piece

00:25:16of s*** father

00:25:17William Letts.

00:25:18Now William

00:25:18was a schizophrenic

00:25:20diagnosed at a

00:25:21very young age

00:25:22and would

00:25:23constantly suffer

00:25:24from severe

00:25:25psychotic episodes

00:25:26in front of his

00:25:27family and on

00:25:28his own.

00:25:28But he would

00:25:29just not tell

00:25:30him that he

00:25:31was schizophrenic

00:25:32he just kept

00:25:32that to himself

00:25:33so the family

00:25:34literally just

00:25:35thought he was

00:25:36genuinely just

00:25:38a psychopath

00:25:38because they

00:25:39didn't know

00:25:40about his

00:25:40condition.

00:25:41But diagnosis

00:25:41aside Will

00:25:43was an absolute

00:25:44piece of s***

00:25:44like I was

00:25:45saying.

00:25:45He would

00:25:45often beat

00:25:46his children

00:25:47throwing them

00:25:48against walls

00:25:48beating them

00:25:49with poles

00:25:50and even pouring

00:25:51boiling water

00:25:52over their skin

00:25:53because unlike

00:25:54Fred's family

00:25:55who were

00:25:56extremely filthy

00:25:57Rose's dad

00:25:59was extremely

00:26:00OCD

00:26:00and wanted

00:26:01to keep

00:26:02everything clean

00:26:02at all times

00:26:03so he made

00:26:04them do chores

00:26:05if they didn't

00:26:05do it right

00:26:05they got beat

00:26:06to an inch

00:26:07of their life

00:26:07or they

00:26:08were cleaned

00:26:09constantly

00:26:10with boiling

00:26:11water that

00:26:12would leave

00:26:12welts on

00:26:12their skin

00:26:13etc.

00:26:14But he would

00:26:15not treat

00:26:15Rose the same

00:26:16way.

00:26:17In fact Rose

00:26:17would play

00:26:18dumb a lot

00:26:19and whine

00:26:20and say that

00:26:20she doesn't

00:26:21want to do

00:26:21her chores

00:26:21and she would

00:26:22end up getting

00:26:22her siblings

00:26:23to somehow

00:26:24do her chores

00:26:24and Will

00:26:25was actually

00:26:25very amused

00:26:26by that

00:26:27but it's not

00:26:28all sunshine

00:26:28and rainbows

00:26:29it wasn't

00:26:29necessarily a good

00:26:30thing that he

00:26:31favored Rose

00:26:32because despite

00:26:33not getting

00:26:34physically beat

00:26:35by her father

00:26:36she was allegedly

00:26:37a victim of

00:26:38SA from her

00:26:39father

00:26:39which is terrible

00:26:40and I hope

00:26:41he is rotting

00:26:42in hell

00:26:42but it does not

00:26:44remotely excuse

00:26:45what she did

00:26:46later on in life.

00:26:47Now as Rose

00:26:47grew up

00:26:48she became

00:26:48somewhat of a

00:26:50mini psychopath

00:26:51that lied

00:26:52bullied

00:26:52and became

00:26:53violent

00:26:54towards boys

00:26:55and girls

00:26:56and she would

00:26:56become hypersexual

00:26:58as soon as

00:26:59she hit puberty

00:26:59which is not

00:27:00uncommon for

00:27:01people that

00:27:01experience

00:27:02SA as a child

00:27:04and she would

00:27:04even go as far

00:27:05as to commit

00:27:06SA on her

00:27:08own younger

00:27:09brothers

00:27:09by the time

00:27:10she was just

00:27:1115 years old.

00:27:12So seeing some

00:27:13similarities here

00:27:14between Rose

00:27:15and Fred's

00:27:16upbringing

00:27:16between the

00:27:17brain injuries

00:27:18SA victim

00:27:19history

00:27:19and SA

00:27:20perpetual history

00:27:21them committing

00:27:22it against

00:27:23other people

00:27:24you can kind

00:27:25of see

00:27:25how they

00:27:26were a

00:27:26match made

00:27:27in hell.

00:27:27So by the

00:27:27time Rose

00:27:28was 15

00:27:29she was

00:27:30doing

00:27:30regular

00:27:31sexual work

00:27:32at a

00:27:33local bus

00:27:34stop

00:27:34and this

00:27:35is when

00:27:35she would

00:27:35inevitably

00:27:36meet

00:27:36Fred

00:27:37of whom

00:27:38was about

00:27:3827 years

00:27:40old at

00:27:40this time

00:27:41and she

00:27:41was only

00:27:4215

00:27:42so

00:27:43he's got

00:27:44a pattern

00:27:44here

00:27:44and us

00:27:45knowing

00:27:45Fred

00:27:46now

00:27:46he almost

00:27:46certainly

00:27:47sought her

00:27:48out as

00:27:48a victim

00:27:49of SA

00:27:49and most

00:27:50likely murder

00:27:51but they

00:27:51would start

00:27:52talking

00:27:52and immediately

00:27:53hit it off

00:27:54because they

00:27:55found so many

00:27:56things in

00:27:56common

00:27:57whether it be

00:27:57that their

00:27:58mothers had

00:27:59the same

00:27:59name

00:28:00or that they

00:28:01had similar

00:28:01family history

00:28:02Rose worked

00:28:03at a bakery

00:28:04and Fred

00:28:05had an ice cream

00:28:06truck so that's

00:28:07that's sweet

00:28:07and you know

00:28:08that they're both

00:28:08pieces of shit

00:28:09so they would

00:28:10they would

00:28:10hit it off

00:28:11but what Fred

00:28:12would like

00:28:12most about

00:28:13Rose is that

00:28:14she was just

00:28:14as if not

00:28:15even more so

00:28:16sigual

00:28:17than Fred

00:28:18when Fred

00:28:19would bring

00:28:19up very

00:28:20crude

00:28:20and vulgar

00:28:21topics

00:28:22Rose wouldn't

00:28:22flinch

00:28:23at all

00:28:23in fact

00:28:24even add

00:28:25on to it

00:28:25so he saw

00:28:26the potential

00:28:27immediately

00:28:28so Fred

00:28:28and Rose

00:28:29would hit

00:28:29it off

00:28:30and Rose

00:28:31would bring

00:28:31the 12

00:28:32year older

00:28:32Fred

00:28:33back home

00:28:34to meet

00:28:34her parents

00:28:35and her

00:28:35parents

00:28:36naturally

00:28:36hated

00:28:37Fred

00:28:37because

00:28:38but Rose

00:28:40would try

00:28:40to sell

00:28:40him off

00:28:41as that

00:28:41he was

00:28:42very rich

00:28:42and he

00:28:42was very

00:28:43successful

00:28:44but the

00:28:44only thing

00:28:45he was rich

00:28:45and full

00:28:46of was

00:28:46shit

00:28:47so after

00:28:47meeting

00:28:48Fred

00:28:48Bill

00:28:48and Daisy

00:28:49would put

00:28:50their daughter

00:28:50Rose

00:28:51into a

00:28:51home

00:28:52for troubled

00:28:52teenagers

00:28:53because

00:28:54parenting

00:28:54in the

00:28:54house

00:28:55is

00:28:55too hard

00:28:56apparently

00:28:56and they

00:28:57would just

00:28:57forget her

00:28:58there

00:28:58classic

00:28:59middle

00:28:59child

00:28:59trope

00:29:00so Rose

00:29:00would spend

00:29:01months

00:29:01in the

00:29:02home

00:29:02until she

00:29:02turned 16

00:29:03and 16

00:29:04year olds

00:29:05at that

00:29:05point

00:29:05were considered

00:29:06adults

00:29:06and they

00:29:07wouldn't

00:29:07be able

00:29:07to be

00:29:08in a

00:29:08troubled

00:29:09teenager

00:29:10home

00:29:10anymore

00:29:10but who

00:29:11was ready

00:29:11to come

00:29:12swoop her

00:29:12up off

00:29:13her feet

00:29:13the 12

00:29:14year older

00:29:15Fred

00:29:15and shortly

00:29:16after picking

00:29:17her up

00:29:17he would

00:29:17get Rose

00:29:18pregnant

00:29:19and they

00:29:19would move

00:29:19into a

00:29:20building

00:29:20in Gloucester

00:29:21at 25

00:29:22Middlin Road

00:29:23there Fred

00:29:24and Rose

00:29:25would live

00:29:25with Fred's

00:29:26child Anne

00:29:26Marie

00:29:27and Rena's

00:29:28child

00:29:28Charmaine

00:29:29so on

00:29:29October

00:29:301970

00:29:31Rose

00:29:31gave birth

00:29:32to her

00:29:32first

00:29:33of eight

00:29:33children

00:29:34like god damn

00:29:35by eight

00:29:35they're probably

00:29:36walking out

00:29:36with a top hat

00:29:37twirling a cane

00:29:38but her firstborn

00:29:40was named

00:29:40Heather Anne

00:29:41and when she

00:29:42was born

00:29:42Fred would be

00:29:43back in jail

00:29:45for about three

00:29:46months because

00:29:46he had gone in

00:29:47and out of jail

00:29:48for very

00:29:48minor charges

00:29:50but this would be

00:29:51at this point

00:29:52the longest stint

00:29:53he had been in jail

00:29:54and it was for

00:29:54stealing five car tires

00:29:56from his place of work

00:29:57so Rose being 17 years old

00:29:59and taking care of

00:30:00three children

00:30:01two of which

00:30:02were not her own

00:30:03and being a child

00:30:05herself

00:30:05shit started to hit

00:30:06the fan fast

00:30:07at home

00:30:08Rose would be seen

00:30:09by a child neighbor

00:30:10beating Charmaine

00:30:12with a wooden spoon

00:30:13as she tied Charmaine's

00:30:15hands up

00:30:15by a belt

00:30:16and hung her

00:30:18from the roof

00:30:18while she stood

00:30:19barely on a chair

00:30:20and at other times

00:30:21the children would

00:30:22show up to

00:30:23emergency rooms

00:30:24with literal

00:30:25stab wounds

00:30:26but Rose would just

00:30:27explain them away

00:30:28somehow

00:30:29Fred on the other hand

00:30:31was having a gay old

00:30:32time in jail

00:30:33just writing

00:30:33dirty letters

00:30:34back and forth

00:30:35with Rose

00:30:36on the daily

00:30:37so while Rose

00:30:38was beating her kids

00:30:39and Fred was

00:30:40getting off in jail

00:30:41Rose took it upon herself

00:30:42to commit her first murder

00:30:44and that murder

00:30:45was committed

00:30:46against a child

00:30:47and this is what's

00:30:48interesting about

00:30:49this couple

00:30:49specifically

00:30:50when you see

00:30:51other serial killer

00:30:52couples

00:30:52usually

00:30:53the man

00:30:54is the dominant

00:30:55one

00:30:56that usually

00:30:57convinces

00:30:58the partner

00:30:59their female partner

00:31:00to commit the crimes

00:31:01but

00:31:02this couple

00:31:03on their own

00:31:04were murderers

00:31:05so

00:31:06and in fact

00:31:06Rose was

00:31:07the instigator

00:31:09in a lot of situations

00:31:10so they both

00:31:11had committed crimes

00:31:12unprovoked

00:31:13by the other

00:31:13and this is just

00:31:14another thing

00:31:15that they would

00:31:16see in common

00:31:16with each other

00:31:17and love each other

00:31:18more for

00:31:19so one day

00:31:20Rose took her children

00:31:21Charmaine and Anne-Marie

00:31:23to see Fred

00:31:24in prison

00:31:24for a visit

00:31:25and after their visit

00:31:26we don't know

00:31:27why

00:31:28but Rose

00:31:29would beat

00:31:30and stab

00:31:30Charmaine

00:31:31to death

00:31:32and she would

00:31:33put her corpse

00:31:34in the building cellar

00:31:35and wouldn't tell Fred

00:31:36until he was

00:31:38released

00:31:38from jail

00:31:39a few weeks later

00:31:40and Fred

00:31:41being the piece

00:31:42of shit

00:31:42he is

00:31:43was completely

00:31:44unfazed

00:31:45at all

00:31:45that Rose

00:31:46had killed

00:31:47his daughter

00:31:47in fact

00:31:48he would

00:31:49go on

00:31:49to gush

00:31:50about

00:31:50some of

00:31:51the murders

00:31:51that he had

00:31:52committed

00:31:52in the past

00:31:53this was

00:31:53essentially

00:31:53just a

00:31:54f***ed up

00:31:55bonding moment

00:31:55between two

00:31:56psychopaths

00:31:57at this time

00:31:57so after Fred

00:31:58found out

00:31:59where Rose

00:32:00put Charmaine's

00:32:01body

00:32:01he would

00:32:02cut off

00:32:02her fingers

00:32:03toes

00:32:03knees

00:32:04caps

00:32:04ankles

00:32:04and wrist

00:32:05as he did

00:32:06with the other

00:32:06victims

00:32:07and he would

00:32:07move it

00:32:08into the yard

00:32:09and bury it

00:32:10near the back door

00:32:11with the idea

00:32:12in mind

00:32:12of extending

00:32:13the house

00:32:14out later

00:32:14and layering

00:32:15the body

00:32:16with a concrete

00:32:16foundation

00:32:17which is

00:32:18something that

00:32:18he did do

00:32:19shortly after

00:32:20now not long

00:32:21after Fred

00:32:21had buried

00:32:22and covered up

00:32:23Rose's murder

00:32:24Rose would leave

00:32:25Fred temporarily

00:32:26and good old

00:32:27Rena

00:32:27Fred's first wife

00:32:29would come back

00:32:30into the picture

00:32:30trying to gain

00:32:31custody of her

00:32:32two children

00:32:33Charmaine

00:32:33and Anne-Marie

00:32:34but naturally

00:32:35one was missing

00:32:36and that was

00:32:37Charmaine

00:32:37so naturally

00:32:38Rena was flipping out

00:32:40asking where her

00:32:41daughter was

00:32:41and Fred played it

00:32:42off saying

00:32:43okay you know

00:32:44come in my car

00:32:44I'll take you

00:32:46to where she is

00:32:46right now

00:32:47so Rena hopped

00:32:48in her car

00:32:48and Fred

00:32:49immediately

00:32:50would kill her

00:32:52by shoving a

00:32:53length of

00:32:54chromium tubing

00:32:55down her throat

00:32:56and that was just

00:32:57a horrendous way

00:32:58to go

00:32:59after reading that

00:33:00I had to like

00:33:01take five minutes

00:33:02just to process that

00:33:03this man is

00:33:04sick

00:33:05like just a

00:33:06sick psychopath

00:33:06and I hope he's

00:33:07burning in hell

00:33:08and I just

00:33:08anyway

00:33:09so after he

00:33:10murdered her

00:33:10he would dismember

00:33:11the body

00:33:12and keep his

00:33:13usual body parts

00:33:14as trophies

00:33:15and would bury her

00:33:16at Finger Post Field

00:33:18near the grave

00:33:19of Anne McFall

00:33:20his previous victim

00:33:21and neither

00:33:22Charmaine's

00:33:22nor Rena's

00:33:24disappearances

00:33:24would be noticed

00:33:26given both their

00:33:26track records

00:33:27and it would go

00:33:28unnoticed

00:33:29for another

00:33:2913 years

00:33:31so after these events

00:33:32Rose would return

00:33:33and she would turn 18

00:33:35allowing her

00:33:35to legally marry Fred

00:33:37and that is when

00:33:38they would move

00:33:38into their infamous

00:33:40murder house

00:33:41of horrors

00:33:4125 Cromwell Street

00:33:43and this would be

00:33:44the house

00:33:44that Rose and Fred

00:33:46would build

00:33:46their torture

00:33:47and kill dungeon

00:33:48that looked

00:33:48and became

00:33:49something straight

00:33:50out of a horror movie

00:33:51so the house

00:33:52at 25 Cromwell Street

00:33:54was three stories

00:33:55an attic

00:33:55and a cellar

00:33:57and Fred and Rose

00:33:58would move in

00:33:58with their two

00:33:59surviving children

00:34:00Anne and Heather

00:34:02and right out the gate

00:34:03Fred and Rose

00:34:03planned to expand

00:34:04and renovate the cellar

00:34:06to be their

00:34:06personal play place

00:34:08but the crazy thing

00:34:09about the Cromwell house

00:34:11was that

00:34:11they weren't the only ones

00:34:13that lived there

00:34:13there were other tenants

00:34:15that lived there as well

00:34:16the Wests live on the first floor

00:34:18and they had the cellar

00:34:19and there would be tenants

00:34:21that took up the second

00:34:22and the third floors

00:34:23so the Wests moved in

00:34:25and quickly

00:34:25Rose began to do

00:34:27sedual work again

00:34:28in the cellar

00:34:29at Fred's request

00:34:31because this was a win-win

00:34:32for both of them

00:34:33Rose was a sick

00:34:34psychotic

00:34:35sociopathic

00:34:36nymphomaniac

00:34:37and Fred was a giant

00:34:39and liked to watch

00:34:41Rose have relations

00:34:42with other people

00:34:43among many other things

00:34:45of which we'll talk about

00:34:46so they would dub

00:34:47the cellar room

00:34:48as mom and dad's room

00:34:50and there would be

00:34:50a plaque on the wall

00:34:51with Rose's name on it

00:34:53which sounds sweet

00:34:54doesn't it

00:34:55but no

00:34:55it was just to cover up

00:34:56the hole that Fred

00:34:57would look through

00:34:58to watch Rose

00:35:00commit unspeakable acts

00:35:01to other men and women

00:35:03but Rose was well aware of this

00:35:04it just was the strangers

00:35:06having relations with her

00:35:07that weren't

00:35:07Fred and Rose

00:35:08would also partake

00:35:09in threesomes

00:35:10pretty often

00:35:11because Rose claimed

00:35:12that she was bisexual

00:35:13so they would often

00:35:15pick up these women

00:35:16in Gloucester

00:35:17and bring them back

00:35:18to the Cromwell house

00:35:19most of these women

00:35:20being runaways

00:35:21and drifters

00:35:22and this was their

00:35:23pattern that they did

00:35:24they would go out

00:35:25in a car

00:35:25and it was easy

00:35:26for Rose to lure women

00:35:27into the car

00:35:28because Fred had trouble

00:35:29doing that on his own

00:35:30but when you have

00:35:31a female companion

00:35:32it just seems less threatening

00:35:33and we see this time

00:35:34and time again

00:35:35with couples

00:35:36or even with

00:35:37previous serial killers

00:35:38that I've talked about

00:35:39where it's a man

00:35:40and they get a child

00:35:41to help them lure

00:35:42etc

00:35:43so they would use

00:35:43this tactic

00:35:44and it would work

00:35:45very well

00:35:46but at this point

00:35:46they're not killing

00:35:47anybody together

00:35:48they were only using

00:35:49the dungeon

00:35:50as a civil room

00:35:52but they would evolve

00:35:52and test it out

00:35:54as a torture room

00:35:55soon after

00:35:57and they would do that

00:35:58using their own daughter

00:36:00so they would bring in

00:36:01Anne-Marie

00:36:02and they would bring her

00:36:03down to the cellar

00:36:04and Rose would hold her down

00:36:06and Fred did

00:36:07the unspeakable

00:36:08to his own daughter

00:36:10and then Fred would proceed

00:36:11to remove her hymen

00:36:13and collect it into a bowl

00:36:15for reasons unknown

00:36:16probably just because

00:36:18he was a sick

00:36:18and I hope he dies in hell

00:36:20and rots there forever

00:36:21but most people

00:36:23and professionals

00:36:24assume that Fred

00:36:25was actually a cannibal

00:36:26given all the body parts

00:36:28that he kept

00:36:29and that were never found

00:36:30but that was never

00:36:31actually proven

00:36:32so that's just speculation

00:36:34but I think it's pretty

00:36:35fair

00:36:35safe to say

00:36:36but the torture with Anne

00:36:38would not stop there

00:36:39shortly after the first incident

00:36:41Fred would make

00:36:41a u-shaped metal bar

00:36:43with two handles on it

00:36:44at his place of work

00:36:45and bring it down

00:36:46to the cellar

00:36:47at 25 Cromwell

00:36:48and hook it up

00:36:49and shortly after that

00:36:51would bring Anne down

00:36:52and tie her to this device

00:36:54and Rose and Fred

00:36:55would take turns

00:36:56torturing her

00:36:57for an entire day

00:36:59and to add salt

00:37:00to the wound

00:37:01literally

00:37:01Rose would draw her

00:37:03a bath

00:37:03at the end of the day

00:37:04and she would pour

00:37:05hordes of salt in it

00:37:07so that Anne's open wounds

00:37:09would burn

00:37:09when she got into the bath

00:37:11and all the crimes

00:37:12and horrendous acts

00:37:13we are going to talk about

00:37:15can't be covered completely

00:37:17can't like

00:37:18I can't go through

00:37:19all the details

00:37:20this video would literally

00:37:21be like 24 hours long

00:37:23if I got into

00:37:24all the minute details

00:37:25that took place

00:37:26in that cellar

00:37:27the amount of torture

00:37:28and abuse

00:37:29that went on

00:37:29in that house

00:37:30is exponential

00:37:31it's insane

00:37:33so I'm going to try to

00:37:35you know

00:37:36glaze over everything

00:37:37just give you

00:37:38all the knowledge

00:37:38but not go into

00:37:39every single detail

00:37:41because I honestly

00:37:41don't want to

00:37:42so shortly after

00:37:43these incidents

00:37:44Rose would give birth

00:37:45to her second child

00:37:46and let me tell you

00:37:47you're gonna lose track

00:37:48of how many kids

00:37:49pop out of this bitch

00:37:50all right

00:37:51there's a lot

00:37:51but let's talk about

00:37:52the tenants

00:37:53that lived on 25 Cromwell

00:37:55so for the most part

00:37:56they were all young men

00:37:57at least at the start

00:37:59and for the most part

00:38:00those young men

00:38:00were railing Rose

00:38:02so it was quite literally

00:38:03a tacky corn video

00:38:05around every corner

00:38:06of this house

00:38:07and the kids would

00:38:08just be walking around

00:38:09they'd either be in the room

00:38:10or in a different room

00:38:11when this was taking place

00:38:13Rose would even walk around

00:38:14scantily clad

00:38:15to seduce the tenants

00:38:17on a regular basis

00:38:18this house was

00:38:19essentially a brothel

00:38:21at this point

00:38:22with Rose being

00:38:22the only person

00:38:23that worked there

00:38:24so since there was

00:38:25so much tomfoolery

00:38:26going on in this household

00:38:28the West had to hire

00:38:29another nanny

00:38:30a 17 year old

00:38:31named Caroline Owens

00:38:33working for

00:38:34three pounds a week

00:38:35three pounds

00:38:36I don't think that's a lot

00:38:37I know it's a different time

00:38:38but that doesn't seem

00:38:39like enough

00:38:39and Caroline

00:38:40hated Fred

00:38:41especially

00:38:42because you know

00:38:43he's a creepy piece of shit

00:38:45so naturally

00:38:45after only a few weeks

00:38:47of working for Fred and Rose

00:38:48Caroline decided

00:38:49to get the hell out of Dodge

00:38:50but Rose was mad

00:38:52because she hadn't gotten

00:38:53to have relations

00:38:54with her yet

00:38:55oh

00:38:56and knowing that Caroline

00:38:57wouldn't want to be

00:38:59any part of that

00:38:59Rose conducted a plan

00:39:01with Fred

00:39:01to kidnap her

00:39:03and grape her

00:39:05knowing full well

00:39:06the endeavor

00:39:06would almost certainly

00:39:07end in murder

00:39:09so on December 6, 1972

00:39:11Fred and Rose

00:39:12followed and confronted

00:39:14Caroline in their car

00:39:15and they would convince her

00:39:16to get in

00:39:17and Rose would try

00:39:18to make advances

00:39:19towards Caroline

00:39:20but she would refuse

00:39:21and after she refused

00:39:23Fred would begin

00:39:24to beat her unconscious

00:39:25and by the time

00:39:27Caroline woke up

00:39:28she was being bound

00:39:29by her wrist and ankles

00:39:30and also getting

00:39:31brown packing tape

00:39:32wrapped around her head

00:39:34and she could hear Rose

00:39:35laughing maniacally

00:39:36in the background

00:39:37and you will find

00:39:38that this is a pattern

00:39:39as well

00:39:39Rose took extreme pleasure

00:39:41in Fred doing

00:39:43these things to the girls

00:39:44and in Rose doing it

00:39:45to them herself

00:39:46she was literally

00:39:48a sociopath

00:39:48so Fred and Rose

00:39:50would take her back

00:39:50to 25 Cromwell

00:39:51and take her down

00:39:52to the cellar

00:39:53where she was bound

00:39:54and gagged

00:39:54for two days

00:39:56after which Fred

00:39:57would come down

00:39:58and come to her

00:39:59crying

00:39:59and asking Caroline

00:40:01if she'd still

00:40:02want to be their nanny

00:40:03and Caroline

00:40:04obviously seeing

00:40:05a way out

00:40:06said yes

00:40:06and agreed to be

00:40:07their nanny

00:40:08but only a couple

00:40:09weeks later

00:40:10when she found an out

00:40:11while they were

00:40:11walking to a local

00:40:13laundromat

00:40:13with the kids

00:40:14she would sprint

00:40:15to her mom's house

00:40:16and tell her

00:40:17everything that happened

00:40:18so after this

00:40:19Caroline's parents

00:40:20would go to Rose

00:40:21and confront her

00:40:22about everything

00:40:23that Caroline told them

00:40:24and Rose would just say

00:40:25don't be f***ing daft

00:40:27who do you f***ing daft?

00:40:27who do you f***ing call I am?

00:40:29that's how she talked

00:40:29terrible

00:40:30but police would search

00:40:32their car

00:40:32and find tape

00:40:34and f***ing photos

00:40:35and that was enough

00:40:36to arrest

00:40:37and detain them

00:40:38temporarily

00:40:39so Rose and Fred

00:40:40would admit to

00:40:41just a little

00:40:42physical assault

00:40:43and when it came

00:40:44time for Caroline

00:40:45to tell her side

00:40:46of the story

00:40:46to police

00:40:47and get it on record

00:40:48she got nervous

00:40:49and scared

00:40:50and didn't want

00:40:51to relive the events

00:40:52so she backed out

00:40:53leaving Fred and Rose

00:40:54with minimal assault charges

00:40:56with the police report

00:40:57saying about Fred

00:40:58he's a docile sort

00:41:00who did not look like

00:41:02he could commit violence

00:41:03what?

00:41:04you don't think

00:41:05this can commit violence?

00:41:07so at this point

00:41:08Rose was pregnant

00:41:09with her third child

00:41:11and Fred had

00:41:12minimal past theft charges

00:41:14so the police

00:41:15agreed to let them off

00:41:16with a 25 pound fine

00:41:19and they'd just be set free

00:41:21judicial system

00:41:22you know

00:41:23and this whole ordeal

00:41:24would just teach

00:41:25Fred and Rose

00:41:26that they could not

00:41:27leave any witnesses behind

00:41:29so this is when

00:41:30they would start

00:41:31their killing spree

00:41:32so it would be

00:41:33nine years

00:41:34until they would be

00:41:35in any sort of

00:41:37other police investigation

00:41:38looking into Rose

00:41:40and Fred West

00:41:41and nine women

00:41:42would end up dead

00:41:43and buried

00:41:44at 25 Cromwell Street

00:41:45as a result

00:41:46but the true number

00:41:47of victims

00:41:48is thought to be

00:41:49upwards of 30

00:41:50but at this time

00:41:51it was essentially

00:41:52if there's no bodies

00:41:54you can't be charged

00:41:55for it

00:41:55so Linda Guff

00:41:57would be their first victim

00:41:58they killed together

00:41:59from what we know

00:42:00a 20 year old

00:42:01that agreed to

00:42:02babysit their kids

00:42:03for them

00:42:03but on April 19th

00:42:051973

00:42:06Linda would disappear

00:42:07the only thing

00:42:08being left behind

00:42:09was a note

00:42:10for her mother

00:42:11saying that she

00:42:12got a flat

00:42:12on the way home

00:42:13and that she'd be back

00:42:14sometime in the future

00:42:16this note

00:42:16obviously being written

00:42:18by Rose

00:42:18which she did

00:42:20multiple times

00:42:20with multiple victims

00:42:22to keep them at bay

00:42:23so they wouldn't

00:42:24make a report

00:42:25of their children missing

00:42:26but in reality

00:42:27Linda was taken down

00:42:28to the cellar

00:42:29of 25 Cromwell

00:42:31having her entire head

00:42:32wrapped tightly

00:42:33in packing tape

00:42:34and being given

00:42:35only a tiny tube

00:42:37to breathe through

00:42:37that would be

00:42:38my worst goddamn nightmare

00:42:40these people

00:42:40are just sick

00:42:42now we don't know

00:42:42exactly how Linda died

00:42:44whether it was during

00:42:45the sexual torture

00:42:47or just being killed

00:42:48on purpose

00:42:49at the end

00:42:49of them torturing her

00:42:50but she would die

00:42:52and Fred would dismember

00:42:53and take his trophies

00:42:55as he always did

00:42:56and then they would

00:42:57bury her

00:42:58beneath the garage

00:42:59at 25 Cromwell

00:43:00in what he called

00:43:01the inspection pit

00:43:03where they could

00:43:03hide the pit

00:43:05with a car

00:43:05over top of it

00:43:06a few weeks later

00:43:07Linda's mother

00:43:08would come to the west

00:43:09asking where her daughter was

00:43:11and Rose being

00:43:12the sadistic

00:43:12that she was

00:43:14have the audacity

00:43:14to answer the door

00:43:16wearing some of Linda's clothing

00:43:18that she was last seen in

00:43:20and also having

00:43:21some of Linda's clothing

00:43:22hanging up

00:43:23on the drying wire

00:43:24outside 25 Cromwell

00:43:26but Rose would convince Linda's mother

00:43:28that she was beating Rose's kids

00:43:30so she kicked her out of the house

00:43:32and Linda's mother

00:43:33didn't ask any more questions

00:43:34and just left

00:43:35and never reported her missing

00:43:37meanwhile Fred would continue

00:43:38to renovate

00:43:39and expand his torture room

00:43:40in the cellar

00:43:41putting hooks in the ceiling

00:43:43to be able to dangle girls

00:43:44from and other various

00:43:46homemade torture devices

00:43:48being put in place

00:43:49Fred's son Stephen

00:43:50would also later say

00:43:51that his father

00:43:52didn't only use the cellar

00:43:53to dismember bodies

00:43:54they actually had a farm

00:43:56not too far out

00:43:57of the town

00:43:58that they lived in

00:43:59that he would take them to

00:44:01to dismember them

00:44:02so Fred has

00:44:03a new and improved

00:44:04torture chamber

00:44:05and Rose is hungry

00:44:06for more victims

00:44:07at this point

00:44:08so they set out

00:44:09to find them

00:44:10Carol Ann Cooper

00:44:11and Lucy Parrington

00:44:12would be the next victims

00:44:14being held in the cellar

00:44:15for seven whole days

00:44:17while being tortured

00:44:18and eventually murdered

00:44:20and dismembered

00:44:21as well

00:44:21like the other victims

00:44:22and this is when

00:44:23Fred and Rose

00:44:24began to get into

00:44:25the groove

00:44:26and started to develop

00:44:27plans and patterns

00:44:28in their crimes

00:44:30they found that

00:44:30it was easy to lure

00:44:31people in for

00:44:32sexual acts

00:44:34but at the time

00:44:35they were mostly

00:44:35only doing that

00:44:36with men

00:44:37and not murdering them

00:44:38but they didn't really

00:44:39want to deal with

00:44:40a threat like that

00:44:41like a giant man

00:44:43so they exclusively

00:44:44switched to only

00:44:45picking up girls

00:44:46so as we know

00:44:47some of the victims

00:44:48were familiar faces

00:44:50and some of them

00:44:51were complete strangers

00:44:52often runaways

00:44:53and drifters

00:44:54and one of those

00:44:55drifters

00:44:55was Therese

00:44:57Sigenteller

00:44:58Sigenteller

00:44:59she was Swedish

00:45:01so I'm sorry

00:45:01if I'm saying that wrong

00:45:02but Therese

00:45:02was picked up

00:45:03while hitchhiking

00:45:04from London

00:45:05to Wales

00:45:05by Fred and Rose

00:45:07and they would do

00:45:07what they always do

00:45:08and take her back

00:45:09to 25 Cromwell

00:45:10and put her down

00:45:11in the cellar

00:45:12they would continue

00:45:12to torture

00:45:13and kill

00:45:14and dismember

00:45:15and bury her body

00:45:16beneath the garage

00:45:17as well

00:45:17and the West

00:45:18would just continue

00:45:19to escalate

00:45:20through each murder

00:45:21seven months after

00:45:22Therese's death

00:45:23they would pick up

00:45:24Shirley Hubbard

00:45:25at a bus stop

00:45:25and would take her

00:45:26back home

00:45:27into the cellar

00:45:27as well

00:45:28they would tape

00:45:29her entire head

00:45:30with that brown

00:45:30packing tape

00:45:31as they did

00:45:32with previous victims

00:45:33and would shove

00:45:34that small tubing

00:45:35three inches

00:45:36inside her nasal cavity

00:45:38giving her just

00:45:39barely enough air

00:45:41to breathe

00:45:42and after she

00:45:43inevitably died

00:45:43of asphyxiation

00:45:45Fred would cut

00:45:46her head off

00:45:47with the tape mask

00:45:48still on

00:45:48and would bury

00:45:49her body

00:45:50in the part

00:45:51of the cellar

00:45:51that had a shrine

00:45:52above it

00:45:53dedicated to

00:45:54Marilyn Monroe

00:45:55now although Fred

00:45:56and Rose often

00:45:56took their victims

00:45:57from the streets

00:45:58they would also

00:45:59take advantage

00:45:59of the tenants

00:46:00in their own home

00:46:01Juanita Mott

00:46:02had been living

00:46:03at 25 Cromwell Street

00:46:05for almost two years

00:46:07at this point

00:46:07which is crazy

00:46:09to think about

00:46:09just knowing

00:46:10that all those people

00:46:11that have died

00:46:12just below her

00:46:13but this was most likely

00:46:14because the rates

00:46:15at the West's house

00:46:16were so cheap

00:46:17I wonder why

00:46:18if it's too cheap

00:46:19to believe

00:46:20you're probably

00:46:21going to get murdered

00:46:22so on April 12th

00:46:251974

00:46:26Juanita would go

00:46:28into the cellar

00:46:29and never come out

00:46:30alive again

00:46:31she would be

00:46:32one of the first

00:46:32to be strung up

00:46:33by the seven foot noose

00:46:35he had placed

00:46:36in the cellar

00:46:36and also be tied up

00:46:37in bondage knots

00:46:38and she would be killed

00:46:40by a blow

00:46:40to the back of her head

00:46:42after hours

00:46:42and hours

00:46:43of torture

00:46:44and then later

00:46:45buried under the house

00:46:46with the rest

00:46:47of the victims

00:46:47and Fred would talk

00:46:49about these murders

00:46:49so callously

00:46:51in interviews

00:46:52after he got caught

00:46:53saying that

00:46:54they asked for it

00:46:55or that the murders

00:46:56were never really planned

00:46:57and it was just

00:46:58something that happened

00:46:59he was just full of shit

00:47:00from start to finish

00:47:02but during all these murders

00:47:03you're probably wondering

00:47:03why no one reported

00:47:05anybody missing

00:47:06but that was because

00:47:07most of them

00:47:08were runaways

00:47:08and at this time

00:47:10nobody really reported those

00:47:12just because they just assumed

00:47:13that they lived

00:47:14somewhere else

00:47:14if they were reported

00:47:15Rose and Fred

00:47:16were easily

00:47:17and strategically

00:47:18able to talk

00:47:19their way out of it

00:47:20so another victim

00:47:21of Fred and Rose

00:47:22was a 15 year old runaway

00:47:23that they snagged

00:47:24from a children's home

00:47:25Jordansbrook house

00:47:27and she was only known

00:47:28as Miss A

00:47:29and they would take her

00:47:30back to 25 Cromwell Street

00:47:31to live with them

00:47:32in the summer of 1976

00:47:34and she would live with them

00:47:36for a very short period

00:47:37of time

00:47:37but she would be made

00:47:38to have a horrific orgy

00:47:41consisting of the entire family

00:47:43children included

00:47:44Rose would force her children

00:47:46to suck on Miss A's hair

00:47:48as Fred and Rose

00:47:50committed unspeakable acts

00:47:51to her

00:47:52all while Rose

00:47:53was laughing maniacally

00:47:54as she always did

00:47:55during these events

00:47:56and later on

00:47:57her children would say

00:47:58how they actually had

00:48:00some fond memories

00:48:01with Fred as a father

00:48:03albeit mostly horrible

00:48:04but they did not recall

00:48:06one good memory

00:48:07of Rose as a mother

00:48:08they said that

00:48:09she was always

00:48:10the one to carry out

00:48:11the abuse

00:48:12and the violence

00:48:14in the home

00:48:15for the most part

00:48:15now Miss A

00:48:16was lucky enough

00:48:17to be allowed to leave

00:48:18but she would later

00:48:19return with a full

00:48:21tank of gas in hand

00:48:22and a lighter

00:48:23ready to light up

00:48:2525 Cromwells

00:48:26but she got too nervous

00:48:27to do it

00:48:28and she went back home

00:48:29but she would later

00:48:29testify against Rose

00:48:31in the trials

00:48:32later in the future

00:48:33so the Wests are still

00:48:34under no suspicion

00:48:35and they are regularly

00:48:36getting new tenants

00:48:37in the house

00:48:38one of which was

00:48:39Shirley Ann Robinson

00:48:41now Shirley would be

00:48:42a lot different

00:48:42from the others

00:48:43she actually had

00:48:44a relationship

00:48:45with Fred and Rose

00:48:46they were kind of like

00:48:47a throuple

00:48:48if you will

00:48:48so at the start

00:48:49this was a very

00:48:50consensual relationship

00:48:51Rose and Shirley

00:48:52would even get pregnant

00:48:53at the same time together

00:48:55and be excited

00:48:56to raise the children

00:48:57together at some point

00:48:58but this throuple situation

00:49:00would eventually fizzle out

00:49:01for reasons unknown

00:49:03but most likely

00:49:04because Rose grew jealous

00:49:06and this was a pattern

00:49:07that happened as well

00:49:08and that we'll see

00:49:09in the future as well

00:49:10so Rose gave birth

00:49:12to her child

00:49:12and shortly after

00:49:14decided that Shirley

00:49:15could no longer be around

00:49:16so Rose herself

00:49:18would strangle Shirley

00:49:19an eight-month pregnant woman

00:49:21and dispose of her

00:49:23like trash

00:49:24just like the other girls

00:49:25so after this murder

00:49:27in particular

00:49:27Rose and Fred

00:49:28would take a break

00:49:30and just focus

00:49:31on the sexual work

00:49:32that Rose would do

00:49:34and also having

00:49:35a couple more kids

00:49:36in the meantime

00:49:36because you know

00:49:37six or eight

00:49:38or however many

00:49:39they have right now

00:49:39wasn't enough

00:49:40please stop procreating

00:49:41you monsters

00:49:42I still stand behind

00:49:44my statement

00:49:44that I think

00:49:45there should be

00:49:45a psych eval test

00:49:46for any people

00:49:47wanting to have children

00:49:48but this downtime

00:49:49period wouldn't last

00:49:51because a trigger event

00:49:53would happen

00:49:53and that was

00:49:54the death

00:49:55of Rose's father

00:49:57Bill Letts

00:49:58he would die

00:49:58of mesothelioma

00:50:00I don't know

00:50:01what that is

00:50:01but here's the description

00:50:02this would inevitably

00:50:04release the kraken

00:50:05within Rose

00:50:06and she'd demand

00:50:07to go out

00:50:08hunting with Fred

00:50:09again for another victim

00:50:11and unfortunately

00:50:12that next victim

00:50:13would be

00:50:14Allison Chambers

00:50:15she was another girl

00:50:16that came from

00:50:17Jordan's Brookhouse

00:50:18this would be a house

00:50:19that they would often

00:50:19go to

00:50:20and prey on their victims

00:50:22just because

00:50:22they're helpless kids

00:50:23that don't have parents

00:50:24basically

00:50:25so they were

00:50:25they didn't have

00:50:26anywhere else to go

00:50:27and they would hire

00:50:28Allison as a nanny

00:50:29for their children

00:50:30just like they did

00:50:31with previous victims

00:50:32as well

00:50:32but she would

00:50:33unfortunately

00:50:33meet the same fate

00:50:35as the other girls

00:50:36being tortured

00:50:36beat and murdered

00:50:38and buried

00:50:39in their garden

00:50:40the only difference

00:50:41with her disappearance

00:50:41is that it was

00:50:42actually reported

00:50:43she had written

00:50:44a letter

00:50:45to Jacob's house

00:50:46saying that

00:50:47she got a job

00:50:48but she would not

00:50:48specify where

00:50:49she got the job

00:50:50so the trail

00:50:52ran cold

00:50:52unfortunately

00:50:53because she didn't

00:50:54mention that the job

00:50:55was at the West house

00:50:56if she did

00:50:56they may have

00:50:57gotten caught

00:50:58but we'll never know

00:50:59so by 1980

00:51:00there was six kids

00:51:02living at 25 Cromwell

00:51:03and after years

00:51:05and years of abuse

00:51:06by the hand

00:51:06of her own parents

00:51:08Anne Marie

00:51:09escaped and left

00:51:10her family behind

00:51:11but when she did that

00:51:13Heather became

00:51:14the eldest in the house

00:51:15and inherently

00:51:16became the sole focus

00:51:18of her parents abuse

00:51:20replacing her sister Anne

00:51:21after a while

00:51:22of being away though

00:51:23Anne was forced

00:51:24to move back in

00:51:25with her parents

00:51:26at 25 Cromwell

00:51:27but insisted

00:51:28that her boyfriend

00:51:29be with her

00:51:29at all times

00:51:30so she wouldn't

00:51:31be exposed

00:51:31to her parents

00:51:32alone anymore

00:51:33but this would leave

00:51:34Heather very vulnerable

00:51:35as well

00:51:36and during this period

00:51:37Rose would give birth

00:51:38to two more children

00:51:39somehow

00:51:40most likely being

00:51:41sexual work babies

00:51:43and not Fred's children

00:51:44which he didn't even

00:51:45really care about

00:51:46at this point

00:51:47but Fred would say

00:51:48that he would only hurt

00:51:49and lose his children

00:51:52by blood

00:51:53because he said

00:51:53it was his birthright

00:51:55Heather getting most

00:51:57of the treatment

00:51:57at this time though

00:51:58and during this time too

00:52:00and we're now in the 80s

00:52:01it is assumed

00:52:02that Fred and Rose

00:52:03were killing many more girls

00:52:06but since they didn't have proof

00:52:07and were never charged for it

00:52:09we don't actually know

00:52:10but given their lifestyle

00:52:11patterns and consistency

00:52:13of their past murders

00:52:14it's basically a guarantee

00:52:15that they were continuing

00:52:16to murder and dispose

00:52:17of girls at the time

00:52:19so naturally at this point

00:52:20Heather West

00:52:21Fred and Rose's daughter

00:52:23was tired of being tortured

00:52:24day in and day out

00:52:26and I mean they tortured her

00:52:27there was like

00:52:29I don't even know

00:52:30how many pages

00:52:30in about how she got

00:52:33afflicted with this torture

00:52:34it is absolutely horrendous

00:52:36but being extremely tired of it

00:52:39she decided she needed

00:52:41to plan an escape

00:52:42from 25 Cromwell

00:52:43and she would beg

00:52:44her older sister Anne

00:52:45to help

00:52:46but Anne knew

00:52:47it was kind of

00:52:48a pointless venture

00:52:49given how her situation

00:52:51turned out with running away

00:52:52so she didn't help Heather

00:52:53in doing that

00:52:54so one day

00:52:55Heather decided

00:52:56that today was the day

00:52:57and she got up

00:52:58to leave the house

00:52:59but wouldn't make it

00:53:00out of the house

00:53:01Rose and Fred would say

00:53:02that they thought

00:53:03Heather might be

00:53:04a lesbian at the time

00:53:06and tried beating

00:53:07and graping her out of it

00:53:09and eventually

00:53:10strangling her to death

00:53:11and they would say this

00:53:12in later interviews

00:53:13after they were arrested

00:53:14for all of the murders

00:53:15it is thought though

00:53:16that Rose was the one

00:53:18to murder and dismember her

00:53:19because of how sloppy

00:53:21it was handled

00:53:21compared to Fred's

00:53:23victim's remains

00:53:24from previous murders

00:53:26and this was also thought

00:53:27because Rose was most likely

00:53:28jealous of Heather

00:53:29getting all of Fred's

00:53:31attention at the time

00:53:32as well

00:53:33just like a few other

00:53:34murders that happened

00:53:35so after Heather

00:53:36was murdered

00:53:37she was stowed away

00:53:38under the steps

00:53:39of their back porch

00:53:40as they figured out

00:53:41how to get rid of her

00:53:43body at the time

00:53:44because at this point

00:53:45they literally just

00:53:46ran out of room

00:53:47to bury bodies

00:53:48in and outside

00:53:50of their house

00:53:51and this alludes

00:53:52to the idea

00:53:53that they murdered

00:53:54more girls

00:53:54they were just

00:53:55burying them

00:53:56somewhere else

00:53:57because they had

00:53:57nowhere else

00:53:58to put them

00:53:59on the property

00:54:00so the rest

00:54:00of the children

00:54:01would come home

00:54:02from school that day

00:54:03and obviously

00:54:03Heather had disappeared

00:54:04so they were asking

00:54:05questions

00:54:05and the way

00:54:06they covered it up

00:54:07was saying that

00:54:07Heather got a job

00:54:09at a summer camp

00:54:10and wouldn't be back

00:54:11until the fall

00:54:11so Fred would ask

00:54:12Steven West

00:54:13his son

00:54:14to help him

00:54:15dig a hole

00:54:15in the backyard

00:54:16not knowing

00:54:17that he was digging

00:54:18his own sister's grave

00:54:19and after the hole

00:54:20was dug

00:54:21Fred would dump

00:54:22her body

00:54:22in the hole

00:54:23and later build

00:54:24a patio

00:54:25over top of the grave

00:54:26sealing her body

00:54:27beneath

00:54:28shortly after

00:54:29Heather's murder

00:54:30though

00:54:30Fred decided

00:54:31that he would put

00:54:31all of his remaining

00:54:32children in the cellar

00:54:34permanently

00:54:35locking them behind

00:54:36an iron gate

00:54:37and never letting them out

00:54:39and you would see

00:54:39the childlike graffiti

00:54:41on the walls

00:54:42and the odd drawings

00:54:43that the kids would do

00:54:44to just pass the time

00:54:46being locked away

00:54:47in a cellar

00:54:48it's just so incredibly sad

00:54:50to see

00:54:51and to hear

00:54:52so Fred and Rose

00:54:53decided to make

00:54:54the first floor

00:54:54into a full-on brothel

00:54:57at this point

00:54:57while their children

00:54:58were being kept away

00:54:59in the cellar

00:55:00at all times

00:55:01and this would be the case

00:55:02for the next

00:55:03five years

00:55:05now during these years

00:55:06it's not officially known

00:55:07if Fred and Rose

00:55:08actually murdered

00:55:09any more girls

00:55:10but it was known

00:55:11that they regularly abused

00:55:13and graped many

00:55:14and one of these girls

00:55:15in 1992

00:55:16would tell her friends

00:55:18about what was happening

00:55:19to her

00:55:20with Fred and Rose

00:55:21and it would eventually

00:55:22reach the police

00:55:23and Detective Hazel Savage

00:55:26would be put on the case

00:55:27what a badass name

00:55:29now Detective Savage

00:55:30didn't only have

00:55:31an insanely badass name

00:55:33she was also just

00:55:34a badass

00:55:35being one of the first

00:55:36female detectives

00:55:37in England

00:55:38and she was literally

00:55:39known as a super cop

00:55:41amongst all other cops

00:55:42and civilians

00:55:43this woman

00:55:44is my goddamn hero

00:55:46now Detective Savage

00:55:46had already actually

00:55:47had a run-in

00:55:48with Fred

00:55:4930 years earlier

00:55:50when Irina was arrested

00:55:52for petty theft

00:55:53Irina had told

00:55:53Detective Savage

00:55:54about Fred

00:55:55and his violent

00:55:56fucked up tendencies

00:55:57and Detective Savage

00:55:59would remember this case

00:56:0030 years later

00:56:01when his name

00:56:02came up again

00:56:03this woman had the memory

00:56:04of a goddamn elephant

00:56:05so sure enough

00:56:06Savage looked into

00:56:08Fred's past offenses

00:56:09and she would find

00:56:10assault charges

00:56:11from back in 1973

00:56:13warranting her

00:56:14the ability

00:56:14to start a case

00:56:16on the Wests

00:56:17and before long

00:56:18Fred and Rose West

00:56:19were arrested

00:56:20based on that one

00:56:22charge assault

00:56:23for the time being

00:56:24but Detective Savage

00:56:25knew that there was

00:56:26probably far more

00:56:27going on behind

00:56:28closed doors

00:56:29so the interviews

00:56:30and searches began

00:56:32Savage would uncover

00:56:33the abuse

00:56:34of Anne Marie

00:56:35as well as the

00:56:36disappearances

00:56:37of Charmaine

00:56:37and Heather

00:56:38warranting further

00:56:39investigation

00:56:40rumors also arose

00:56:41about what might be

00:56:42buried under the patio

00:56:44which we know

00:56:44was Heather

00:56:45the younger West children

00:56:46were taken into care

00:56:48and Rose tried

00:56:49to take the easy way

00:56:50out at the time

00:56:51and attempted suicide

00:56:52but was unsuccessful

00:56:54because her son

00:56:55Steven found her

00:56:56and revived her

00:56:57the case against

00:56:58the West collapsed

00:56:59when two key witnesses

00:57:00though decided

00:57:01not to testify

00:57:02against them

00:57:03Savage would continue

00:57:04to pursue her

00:57:06or Heather

00:57:06questioning the West

00:57:08children repeatedly

00:57:09but they had been

00:57:10extremely well trained

00:57:11by their parents

00:57:12and failed to cooperate

00:57:13because they had been

00:57:14being brainwashed

00:57:15their entire lives

00:57:16five years of their lives

00:57:17they were locked away

00:57:18in a cellar

00:57:19for God's sake

00:57:20but in February 1994

00:57:21a warrant was obtained

00:57:23to search the Cromwell property

00:57:25and the garden

00:57:26police would find

00:57:27the remains of

00:57:28two dismembered

00:57:28and decapitated women

00:57:30one of which

00:57:31they assumed

00:57:31was Shirley Robinson

00:57:33Red West would claim

00:57:34sole responsibility

00:57:35for these murders

00:57:36and when Rose

00:57:37heard of the confession

00:57:38she denied

00:57:39all knowledge

00:57:40of Heather's death

00:57:41which we know

00:57:41is complete

00:57:42bushlaka

00:57:43then inexplicably

00:57:44Fred admitted

00:57:45the presence of the body

00:57:47in the cellar

00:57:48to the police

00:57:48this guy

00:57:49he loved to talk

00:57:50in these interviews

00:57:51he would just like

00:57:52talk talk talk talk talk

00:57:52there is uh

00:57:53plenty of tapes

00:57:54of him speaking

00:57:55which I will probably input

00:57:57and in the cellar

00:58:18they would discover

00:58:19the remains

00:58:19of nine individuals

00:58:20establishing the identities

00:58:22of each victim

00:58:23was a huge task

00:58:24to say the least

00:58:26and continuing

00:58:26to cooperate

00:58:27Fred revealed

00:58:28the location

00:58:28of the remains

00:58:29of his first wife

00:58:30Rina

00:58:31lover Anna McFall

00:58:32and daughter Charmaine

00:58:34who were all buried

00:58:35away from the

00:58:36Cromwell Street house

00:58:37and as the case

00:58:38against them

00:58:38would develop

00:58:39Rose tried increasingly

00:58:41to distance herself

00:58:42from Fred

00:58:43claiming she was

00:58:44also a victim

00:58:45but police were

00:58:45not convinced

00:58:46thankfully

00:58:47given the sheer

00:58:48number of murders

00:58:49which had occurred

00:58:50and her participation

00:58:51in the grapes

00:58:52so on December

00:58:5313th 1994

00:58:55Fred West

00:58:56was charged

00:58:57with 12 counts

00:58:58of murder

00:58:59and taken into custody

00:59:00at Winson Green Prison

00:59:01in Birmingham

00:59:02where on January 1st

00:59:041995

00:59:05he unfortunately

00:59:07took the easy way out

00:59:08or not fortunately

00:59:10I don't really know

00:59:10and he hung himself

00:59:12in his cell

00:59:12via bedsheets

00:59:14and this was predicated

00:59:15on the fact

00:59:16that Rose

00:59:16had distanced herself

00:59:18so much from him

00:59:19not responding

00:59:20to his letters

00:59:20from jail

00:59:21of which he said

00:59:22things like

00:59:23as in life

00:59:24as in earth

00:59:25our love

00:59:26will never die

00:59:26Rose and I

00:59:27will live together

00:59:28in heaven

00:59:29I will wait

00:59:29for you darling

00:59:30so please come to me

00:59:32gross

00:59:32who's gonna tell him

00:59:33he's going to hell

00:59:34and don't worry about

00:59:35she's got a VIP

00:59:36pass down there

00:59:36so she'll meet you there

00:59:37but anyway

00:59:38he felt rejected

00:59:39enough to take

00:59:40his own life

00:59:41basically

00:59:41his devotion

00:59:42to his wife

00:59:43Rose

00:59:44was most apparent

00:59:45in the paperwork

00:59:46found in the prison cell

00:59:48following his slewer slide

00:59:50he had even drawn

00:59:51a gravestone

00:59:51for himself

00:59:52and his wife

00:59:53Rose

00:59:54along with the words

00:59:55saying

00:59:55in loving memory

00:59:56Fred West

00:59:57Road West

00:59:58rest in peace

01:00:00where no shadow falls

01:00:01in perfect peace

01:00:02he waits for Rose

01:00:04his wife

01:00:04and rather than Rose

01:00:05thinking that was

01:00:06a sweet gesture

01:00:07done by

01:00:08the love of her life

01:00:09she just saw it

01:00:10as a get out of jail

01:00:11free card

01:00:11trying to use his death

01:00:13as a means of making him

01:00:14more guilty than her

01:00:15but luckily

01:00:16it didn't work

01:00:17Rose West

01:00:18went to trial

01:00:19on October 3rd

01:00:201995

01:00:21and witnesses

01:00:22including her stepdaughter

01:00:23Anne-Marie

01:00:24testified to her

01:00:25participation

01:00:26in the residual

01:00:27assaults

01:00:28on young women

01:00:29her defense counsel

01:00:30tried to argue

01:00:31that evidence of assault

01:00:32was not evidence

01:00:34of a murder

01:00:34but when Rose

01:00:35testified on her

01:00:37own behalf

01:00:37her violent nature

01:00:38and dishonesty

01:00:39became clear

01:00:40to the jury

01:00:41and they saw

01:00:41right through her lies

01:00:42and they unanimously

01:00:44and thankfully

01:00:45found her guilty

01:00:46on 10 separate counts

01:00:48of murder

01:00:49on November 22nd

01:00:501995

01:00:51she received a life sentence

01:00:53having to serve

01:00:54a minimum

01:00:54of 25 years

01:00:56in jail

01:00:56Rose West's sentence

01:00:57was later extended

01:00:59to a whole life order

01:01:00sentence

01:01:01by the home secretary

01:01:02effectively removing

01:01:04any possibility

01:01:05of parole

01:01:06thank God

01:01:07and Rose West

01:01:08refused to accept

01:01:09her fate

01:01:10and launched an appeal

01:01:11in 1996

01:01:12and in 2000

01:01:13claiming variously

01:01:14that new evidence

01:01:15clearing her

01:01:16had come to light

01:01:17and then that

01:01:18huge media interest

01:01:20had prevented her

01:01:21from receiving

01:01:22a fair trial

01:01:23at the time

01:01:23the 1996 appeal

01:01:25was rejected

01:01:25and she dropped

01:01:26the later one

01:01:27so she remains

01:01:28incarcerated

01:01:29to this day

01:01:30and the West home

01:01:31on 25 Cromwell Street

01:01:32or the House of Horrors

01:01:34as in dubbed

01:01:35by the media

01:01:36was torn down

01:01:37to the ground

01:01:38October 1996

01:01:40in its place now

01:01:41is a pathway

01:01:42that leads

01:01:43to the town center

01:01:44now

01:01:45so holy shit

01:01:46that was a really long one

01:01:47um

01:01:48I appreciate

01:01:49if you stuck to the

01:01:50stuck here

01:01:50stuck around

01:01:51I can't even speak now

01:01:52I appreciate

01:01:52if you stuck around

01:01:53to the end

01:01:54I had

01:01:55you know

01:01:56a time and a half

01:01:57researching this

01:01:58but like I always say

01:01:59I enjoy doing these videos

01:02:00so if you have any suggestions

01:02:01let me know down below

01:02:03for the next true crime episode

01:02:04but in the meantime

01:02:05I hope you have a wonderful night

01:02:06wonderful day

01:02:07wonderful afternoon

01:02:08wherever you are

01:02:09and I will see you

01:02:09a beautiful face

01:02:10in the next video

01:02:10alright

01:02:11bye

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