- 12/07/2025
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La trilogie Pusher de Nicolas Winding Refn, dans une version restaurée 4K, le 9 juillet au cinéma
FilmsActu X Nicolas Winding Refn (Interview)
© 2025
La trilogie Pusher de Nicolas Winding Refn, dans une version restaurée 4K, le 9 juillet au cinéma
FilmsActu X Nicolas Winding Refn (Interview)
© 2025
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05:52J'ai perdu l'intention de vivre dans le monde réel
05:55et d'être plus excités sur le espace de théâtre,
06:02le espace d'un-réalité, comme un stage.
06:05Et donc, c'est comme l'évolution.
06:12Je pense que si les directeurs veulent revenir et changer leurs films,
06:16je suis sûre qu'il y a une raison.
06:18Je n'ai pas besoin de faire, je n'ai jamais eu la liberté de faire
06:23pour faire le film que je voulais faire.
06:25Donc, il n'y a rien à changer.
06:27Je me regarde donc,
06:29une fois que j'ai fait quelque chose,
06:30j'ai été ostracisé dans mon corps.
06:33Il n'est plus en moi.
06:36Je dois continuer à faire quelque chose.
06:48Mais voilà, je n'ai jamais eu la liberté de joive à dire
07:01C'est hidré en train d'espoir.
07:06D'expliquer.
07:07Mais voilà,
07:07c'est mal réveil.
07:08J'ai la liberté de joive,
07:12je ne voulais vraiment vous dire wastez tout ça.
07:14But you're still the same
07:44because so many films can be rewatched
07:48with even better quality
07:50and who doesn't want that, you know.
07:53So it's kind of like a new layer of the new normal for me.
07:58So I decided to do all my films in 4K,
08:01slowly rolling them out, you know.
08:07I think cinema and television for that matter
08:10has had a very tough time in the last 10 years or so.
08:1410, 15 years. Gaming, social media, VR canvases are exploding
08:20and they're constantly evolving
08:22because technology is allowing them to evolve.
08:24Movies and television, TV is becoming more and more just content
08:30that you almost look at while you're doing other things.
08:33And movies are still that window of exclusivity
08:37of the collective experience.
08:39But I think that movies also need to re-evaluate themselves.
08:44I remember when we were in Cannes for Only God Forgives
08:47and I, after everyone had been booing me for so long
08:51that during my stay, I did say,
08:54look, you can be angry with me and about my film,
08:58but I am from the future
09:00and I'm going to make something that's going to predict
09:03what it's going to be like if you want to make films in the future.
09:06and I was right because right after Only God Forgives,
09:11the industry changed because of Netflix.
09:13Netflix was the game changer
09:15and it changed not so much what we're making
09:18but it's how we experienced film and content essentially,
09:23how we viewed it.
09:24and I think that to justify or for a movie to exist in longevity,
09:29you have to see what a film can become rather than what it used to be.
09:36Violence is like sex.
09:38It's all about the build-up.
09:40Bang! Bang!
09:41And then it's to the other wall.
09:42Now make it dirty, unique, interesting, never seen before in violence.
09:46I'm not that strategic, but I will say that everything is an evolution of something.
09:58And there can be a tendency when something is liked
10:03that everyone wants the same same.
10:07But I don't necessarily think that's true.
10:09It's better to give them something else or something different
10:13or something that destroys your past in order to make something new,
10:18to transition.
10:20You know, obviously the two films are very different
10:23but what ties them is myself and Ryan's interaction.
10:28However, I find that interesting.
10:30It's like taking something and turning it on its head.
10:33It's taking the ultimate superhero in one movie
10:36and emasculating him in the next.
10:39It's taking one movie that's very poppy
10:41and another movie that's very esoteric.
10:45And that, I think, is what makes the world interesting
10:49is that things can become different.
10:52It can evolve into other components
10:55rather than just always staying in the same repeat lane
10:59because you very quickly run out of steam, in my opinion.
11:02I was very happy but obviously, you know, a lot of harsh reactions
11:09and a lot of booing and screaming.
11:12But then I was like, that's kind of cool
11:14because then you're like the sex pistols of cinema.
11:18You know, you're like the one everyone throws bottles at
11:20but you can't deny it existence.
11:23You can't really criticize it because I did it my way.
11:26The world will see it as it continues to evolve
11:30and you just have to be, you have to just to be, trust yourself.
11:34So you never lose your vision when you have that strong reaction?
11:37No, on the contrary, you're like, it's like energy.
11:40It's like, just wait for the next one.
11:42I love that.
11:44I'm like you, I have no regrets about Only God Forgives.
11:47I think it's a masterpiece, and it is.
11:49I just didn't make it very expensive.
11:52Is there a doctor in the house?
11:54We need to get a medic in here.
11:57Is there a doctor around?
11:59When you were mentioning 2001,
12:02it says in Kane you forgot to add Drive.
12:04We'll let that slip.
12:06We won't know about Drive for another 30 years.
12:0930 seconds.
12:10Whether it lives or dies.
12:12I'm talking about films, 2001 was made in 1968.
12:17I made this film about four years ago.
12:19So it's about time.
12:20Four years is a zip.
12:21It's not even a blip.
12:23It's not a pimple on the asshole of humanity.
12:27What was funny about talking to Billy Friedkin
12:30was that it was, he had a man who had struggled a lot in Hollywood
12:35and started very successfully at a young age
12:40and then gone into Sorcerer's
12:43and was still traumatized by that experience after so many years.
12:49And I think that was what was so sad in a way,
12:52that it had such an effect on him.
12:54It was a little bit like Michael Cimino doing Heaven's Gate.
12:57These amazing films, both Sorcerer's and Heaven's Gate are probably their best films,
13:04for some reason get so destroyed and then they lose sight of themselves
13:10or they lose their confidence and it affects all the other movies they make afterwards.
13:14And I was like, I'm never going to be like that because I'm right, you're wrong.
13:23I mean I've done two shows, one with Amazon, one with Netflix
13:27and I like what I was making obviously, but I don't know how much I want to continue.
13:35I may want to take a break and go and make movies again.
13:40I've decided to do more visual arts, you know, and trying to find other areas of creativity.
13:50But I think it's time to go make a film again.
13:53You said you work on two shows, but you work on The Famous Five also.
13:57The Famous Five was a television show that I just, how do you say, executive produced or created.
14:04But I had no involvement in it, otherwise I just created the kind of concept and the story
14:10based on these very famous books.
14:12The Famous Five was more because my kids would read the books when they were young.
14:16I remember my mother reading me the books.
14:18So it was more like a past history thing that came up as an opportunity.
14:27Well, I mean, if anything, if something is interesting, you know, why not look at it?
14:31I've had some wonderful meetings in Hollywood, met wonderful people.
14:34But in the end, I like my freedom.
14:37That's all I really want is just to be free.
14:40When you work in Hollywood, there is a contract.
14:43Some people love that and can work within that.
14:46It's maybe not so much my thing right now, but who knows?
14:51Maybe next year I'll do a big, you know, big superhero movie.
14:57That could be fun maybe. I don't know.
14:59I'm pretty open to anything, but at the same time, at the end, you should just make what makes you happy.
15:05It's one thing having creative control, which is easier enough.
15:10But it's where all the money that's invested puts a burden on you.
15:15Because all that money has to get, you know, recouped.
15:18And then you have to make a certain type of movie.
15:21You don't have the freedom to do whatever you want, because you're a slave to the economics.
15:26If your film costs 200 million dollars or 100 million dollars, you need to make 300, 400 million dollars to break even.
15:33That already puts a strain on what kind of movie can you make.
15:36And I don't want any conditions on me at all.
15:41You have to be completely free.
15:43I mean, in the beginning, a lot of people were talking about another drive, but it was like, that would be the worst idea I've ever heard of.
15:55So never?
15:56Never.
15:57I've been very lucky to live a fun life.
16:09And it has nothing to do with fame.
16:14You realize very quickly.
16:16It has that I've had opportunities and I've been able to work with people.
16:21I've met people.
16:22I've spoken with people.
16:24And it's all been a lot of fun.
16:27But I think when I started, the idea of being seen was very essential.
16:33The idea of fame.
16:34And fame being an opportunity.
16:36It's like an opportunity.
16:37It's like a stage.
16:39One thing is becoming famous.
16:40The next, what are you going to do with it?
16:42And obviously, it's like anything.
16:44It's an opportunity.
16:46I'll never find a true love.
16:47You'll find a lot of love with me.
16:49No, no, no.
16:50You'll find a lot of love.
16:51You'll find a lot.
16:52You'll find a lot of love.
16:53You'll find a lot all the time.
16:54I'll also find a job.
16:55Yeah, I'll also...
16:56Yeah, I'll...
16:58Okay.
16:59We'll have to be here in Bangkok in six months.
17:01Yang Han will film his next film, and I'll have to film the process.
17:04It's a nice thing, that we'll be together with him, when he's filming.
17:10When he started the drive, I was home with the children.
17:13J'ai pris 10 mois, et c'était très difficile d'être avec eux-mêmes.
17:43Vous essayez de relâcher un peu plus, et le prochain jour c'est le mois d'août.
17:47Tu regardes des films ?
17:49Je regardais beaucoup de films quand j'étais beaucoup plus jeune,
17:52mais maintenant c'est plus difficile et plus.
17:54Il y a d'autres choses que je trouve intéressantes.
17:56Comme quoi ?
17:57J'ai fait ma première exposition qui s'ouvre à Tokyo,
18:02et ça a été beaucoup de plaisir.
18:04Une collaboration avec Hideo Kojima ?
18:06Oui.
18:07Pouvez-vous parler de ça ?
18:08J'ai créé une exposition qui s'ouvre à la semaine dernière,
18:15en Tokyo, où j'ai créé cette installation entre nous.
18:20J'ai vu ma femme et ma fille dans la procession.
18:23Hé, c'est moi !
18:31Où vas-tu ?
18:33Wait !
18:38Don't leave without me !
18:42No !
18:43Don't go !
18:45Please !
18:46Don't go !
18:48And you are in Death Stranding 2 ?
18:50I am Heart Man,
18:52and Heart Man is forever in Death Stranding.
19:00I think that don't believe everything you read on the internet.
19:03Ok.
19:04Can you tease us something ?
19:05Well, believe everything you read on the internet.
19:07Oh, ok !
19:35Oh, ok !
19:46C'est de l' OMC?
19:48J'ai pas besoin de cet effet dans la vidéo !
19:49C'est de l'OF ?
19:50vous enным ?
19:50Non !
19:51C'est de l'OF ?
19:52Je suis pas besoin de cet effet ?
19:53Et je peux vous mettre sur cette vidéo !
19:54Ah, et je peux vous récréter !
19:55J'ai pas besoin de cet effet.
19:56Oh !
19:57On ne peut pas que les mettre sur cette vidéo !
19:59T'es juste de l'OF ?
20:00Sous-titrage FR ?
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