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VERONA, a pentecostal Christian from Norway, started speaking with prison pen pals after the breakdown of her last relationship. She found solace in talking about her emotions to complete strangers. In February this year she came across Justin’s profile on one of the sites and was drawn to his positivity, and how reflective he came across regarding his journey and his hopes for a new life. He is currently serving a 13-year sentence for armed robbery and has 2 and a half years left on his sentence. The pair connected quickly and were soon writing letters every day to each other. They also talk on the phone, or on video calls every day; Verona likes him calling as she falls asleep, as calls regularly last 15 minutes and Justin will call up to 20 times a day. He earns money in prison by teaching yoga and baking cheesecakes which he sells to other prisoners - he has also done a tonne of rehabilitation programmes. Verona recently made her first trip out to visit Justin where he proposed to her; the pair only had two visits together with each lasting 8 hours. Despite her friends and family doubting the relationship, Verona claims that Justin is her soulmate and can't wait to prove all the doubters wrong.

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00:00I got engaged to my fiancee the first time I met him and my fiancee Justin is
00:06in a prison in Arizona. So today I'm going to invite my friends over and tell
00:13them about Justin. They know that I'm engaged they just don't know that he's
00:18in prison. The reason that I go to Arizona and see him and that he doesn't
00:22come to Norway and see me is because he's in prison.
00:27Oh my god. He's been in prison for like 10 years now.
00:31It's a prank, right? No, it's serious. It's a prank.
00:37So my name is Verona and his name is Justin and he's in a prison in Arizona.
00:43I'm 29 and he's 37. He has a 13-year sentence. He's been over 10 years. He has
00:51two years and about two or three months left. Yeah.
00:59So we started talking in February. It kind of went past.
01:03So when I was going to see him in May, which was only a few months in,
01:07I decided like I wanted to make it official.
01:10Hello, this is a free call from Justin.
01:13An incarcerated individual at...
01:14Hey, baby.
01:18How are you?
01:19I'm good. How are you?
01:22Oh, I'm good. Just getting ready for the day.
01:25Yeah. I was struggling so much with dating and trust issues and stuff. So him being there and
01:32me being able to have the distance makes me feel a lot more safe, which helps me open up and gain
01:39trust again. So yeah, I'm coming out to Arizona soon. Are you excited?
01:44As excited as I could possibly be. So exciting that it's a visual problem.
01:51Yeah. And you get to hold my hands for eight hours straight again.
01:56Like the crazy people we are. I love you, though.
01:59I totally am. I love you, too.
02:04Thank you for using Genetics.
02:05Bye.
02:06Bye-bye.
02:10What is this?
02:15He's not scared to be vulnerable and emotional as a man who is in prison.
02:20That's pretty impressive, actually, because you get hard when you're in there.
02:25So we're going to start packing for the trip.
02:28One of the most important things I take with me is actually sunscreen. Like,
02:31I cannot forget sunscreen because me being Norwegian, I'm not used to that sun at all.
02:36When I go in there, the only thing I can bring inside is actually a plastic bag with quarters in
02:42it so I can buy him food.
02:45I got engaged to him the first time I met him. He was warning me that he would get on his knees,
02:49like, in front of everyone, because you're not alone in the visitation room.
02:53He made his own speech and asked me to be his wife.
02:56We kind of started talking about it as a joke at first, but it was just, like, it wasn't serious.
03:04I have to take, like, these sports bras because they don't have the metal in it because you are
03:09not allowed to wear those that have metal on. We're going to get married in prison, yeah.
03:14I want to get married by October, like, on Halloween. I don't know if we can make it happen,
03:20but that's what I want. So today, I'm going to, like, invite my friends over and tell them about
03:26Justin. They know that I'm engaged. They just don't know that he's in prison, so, yeah.
03:34What do you know about her dating history?
03:39That she has a bad taste of men sometimes.
03:45She had a bad situation. I had a bad situation. We just got together and
03:50got our f***ing pics. So we're pretty close like that.
03:57I want to tell them before everyone else knows. Yeah.
04:05I think I have some questions, but it's, like, who is that guy, where he came from, and how it ended up with.
04:15I invited you guys here today, and you don't know the reason yet, but I haven't told you, like,
04:21the details of the person I'm gonna marry, but there has been, like, a lot of rumors
04:27from people talking, so I found out that I just want to be the one who tells it myself.
04:34And the thing is that my fiancé, the reason that I go to Arizona and see him and that he doesn't come
04:41to Norway and see me is because he's in prison. Yeah, I know.
04:45Yeah. Oh my god. Yeah.
04:51He's been in prison for, like, 10 years now, and he has two years left.
04:55No, you're joking. You're joking. You're joking.
04:58It's a prank, right? No, serious.
05:02There, it's a prank. He's speechless.
05:04Yeah, no, he's in prison.
05:07Okay. We started talking as pen pals, and I just fell for him.
05:12Yeah. But, I mean, he's been there for 10 years, so he has had a lot of time to do work on himself
05:20to get better. He has done a lot of, like, therapy and work in the prison, so I still feel like
05:28he's not the person he was, you know? He's changed.
05:31But how did you guys know each other? How?
05:35I found him online because there's, like, pen pal websites where you can write letters to people in prison.
05:42I wasn't supposed to fall in love, though. That was not the plan. That just happened.
05:48My previous relationships have been rocky. When I tried to get into dating again, it was very hard
05:55and just decided to be alone for a while.
05:58I have had pen pals before. I like helping people. The day I started talking to him was
06:05basically because I was stood up at Valentine's. And I was really, really upset, of course,
06:11because who stands someone up on Valentine's?
06:16Here's, like, the stuff that I have gotten from him. This one, he drew his hand and he wrote,
06:24Marry me. That was before we even was engaged. Like, he sent this long ago and he was like,
06:28Marry me. Elskedai, which is Norwegian for I love you. He remembered that one.
06:34Inside here is, like, a song he wrote for me. A shirt for me.
06:40Which he wore so I can smell him. I had seen it on TikTok that people have been talking to people in
06:51prison and having pen pals. So, it was more like I wanted to vent to someone. I just wanted to talk
06:56to someone, but without the close contact. Initially, finding him on this page called
07:02Ride a prisoner. And he looked interesting. And because I came in talking to him thinking I would
07:08never meet him, I was quite honest and open. In a way, I wouldn't have been with someone face to face.
07:15I have talked to more people than just Justin, but I have never been romantically involved or interested
07:21like that. And, like, when I started talking to him, that wasn't even on my mind. He's my first
07:28prison boyfriend. Yeah. Here is him as a kid. Water skiing. He was so cute. Look at that.
07:36So, I think that's very cute that he's sending me his, like, childhood pictures for me to take
07:40care of. Like, that's a lot of trust. Oh, I forgot. I didn't show you. I actually used his handwriting
07:50from one of the letters and I tattooed his name on me. I'm new at tattooing, so I didn't do it
07:57deep enough. But yeah, that's his name. I just have to redo it. So, when I went to see him in Arizona,
08:05I was actually in the prison visiting him. Yeah. How was it? It's different for sure. I mean,
08:14it was weird. So, we're getting married in the prison, actually. We're not waiting till he comes out.
08:20Oh, okay. Why did you keep a secret from me?
08:27Well, not anymore. You seem kind of like you're not too happy. I must process this. Yeah, I get that.
08:38Because you have not told me anything about him? No. Not at all? No. You did send me a picture one
08:45time. That's it. Not the name. Nothing. Yeah. I have so many questions. How does the sex work thing
08:57working down in prison? His prison, you are not allowed to have intercourse at all. You can kiss
09:03and hug at the start and the end of a visit and then you can hold hands over the table the rest of
09:08the visit. That's all. But you can still do the texting and the phone calls. Yeah, yeah. Just...
09:15Don't tell my parents!
09:23So, now I have a prison shirt. Yeah, it smells like him too. It smells like prison.
09:31Speechless. Yeah, speechless. But every love story has a history.
09:38Hmm. Mm-hmm.
09:43I don't think it's good to judge before you know them.
09:50I think it's sad that people are judging. I mean, I can understand people being skeptical.
09:55That's fine. My family, they're like... I feel like they're supportive, but they're skeptical.
10:01They're worried if I'm gonna get hurt or used. They're just thinking that I am naive. They think he's
10:08gonna use me and take money from me, which he never had. He actually sent me money so that I could visit
10:13him. They're worried about what kind of person he is. My mom is kind of like back and forth on it,
10:19but that's more like her worry about the outside world and not me and Justin.
10:24I think it's gonna work out because we get the distance and we get to know each other on a whole
10:33other level than someone who is like in direct contact. Hopefully he gets out sooner. If not,
10:40I mean, that's fine. We got two years to plan and build our future. Being judgmental about it, it's not
10:46healthy. You should give someone the opportunity to let them show who they are before you judge them
10:53just because of something that happened in the past. Why would you not let someone grow and get
10:59better and give them a chance?

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