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'Poster Child Of Ineffective Bureaucracy': Bill Hagerty Slams 'Bloated' United Nations
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7/9/2025
During a Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing on Wednesday, Sen. Bill Hagerty (R-TN) spoke about the United Nations.
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Great. Thank you, Ambassador. Senator Hagerty.
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Thank you, Chairman Ricketts. And again, welcome to all of you.
00:06
Several of the panelists today are nominated to serve at the United Nations,
00:09
so I'd like to start with the United Nations today, if I might. If you think about it,
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the United Nations has become the poster child of ineffective bureaucracy. It's bloated,
00:20
it's slow-moving, it's resistant to reform. And despite the billions of dollars of annual
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contributions that come to the UN disproportionately coming from the United States,
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the organization remains played by overlapping mandates, weak accountability, and an entrenched
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culture of cultural inefficiency. If I think about it, the UN all too often
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takes and diverts their resources into administrative overhead rather than frontline impact.
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Its missions suffer from poor oversight, and its decision-making is quite often politicized.
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So, Mr. Bartosz, I'd like to start with you. Just explain to us your plans for increasing the
01:07
efficiency and the financial accountability and impact of the United Nations.
01:11
Senator, thank you for the question, and I want to also say thank you for your leadership
01:15
from the time you got to the Senate on defunding UNRWA and working towards the dismantlement of
01:21
UNRWA. It's meant a lot to so many people, your leadership on that. And we, if confirmed,
01:26
will be serving under the most consequential and effective president in history for the U.S.-Israel
01:31
relationship, as well as a leader whose record of combating antisemitism is second to none.
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And so, while we approach the 50th anniversary of the stain of the Zionism as racism
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resolution at the UN, a stain on that body that's almost 50 years old, it seems like this is an
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organization that's immune, or resistant is a good word, but I would say almost
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it's just immune to reform. Well, I think they've demonstrated their perspective, and you have
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a unique window of opportunity, I think. I do. It's because of President Trump's leadership,
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his vision, his leadership, and his charge to us that every dollar that goes through the UN system
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cannot be. The American people are the most generous people on earth. We have been the most generous
02:20
funders. Our nation has been the most generous funders for 80 years. And the President has charged,
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and Secretary Ruby has charged, to say not a dollar of that can go to waste, fraud, and abuse,
02:29
and every dollar must make us safer, stronger, and more prosperous. And I think it's with presidential
02:35
leadership, leadership of the Secretary of State, and if confirmed, our team to use our generosity and
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the U.S.'s role at the UN, our dollars need to matter. They need to matter in procurement. They need to
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matter in personnel, and they need to matter when we say that this organization needs to be, or this
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particular agency needs, needs reform. It's that presidential leadership, leadership from the
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Secretary, and if confirmed, our team's leadership, to execute the President's America First agenda.
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It's an organization that cries out for leadership and, frankly, respect for those that fund it. I've
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attended the United States General Assembly meeting when President Trump spoke. I've been there on
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multiple occasions with President Trump. That organization is basically out of control right now.
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in terms of their inefficiency, their lack of respect for those that fund it, and the
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politicization of many of the institutions. And on the politicization front, I'd like to turn to you,
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Ms. Lucetta. If you think about it, the UN was founded on principles of peace, security, and human rights.
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But the organization has become increasingly politicized. If you think about the authoritarian regimes
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there right now that seem to dominate its institutions, they do it in a way that legitimizes their
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own agendas. They do it in a way that helps them avoid scrutiny. I wanted you to talk specifically
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about how you would address the politicization within UN agencies. Think about the Human Rights
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Council, UNESCO. These sort of hostile authoritarian regimes often take these organizations and steer
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their agendas in a way that's very contrary to U.S. interest.
04:06
Thank you, Senator, for your question. And I share your concern. As you know, in February,
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President Trump signed an executive order to withdraw the United States from the Human Rights Council.
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That same executive order also called for the review of our participation in international
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organizations to make sure that our participation aligns with national interests. Many organizations
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in the UN have lost their way. Both the Human Rights Council and UNESCO continually serve as examples
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of the pervasive anti-Israel bias that exists within the UN. They continually push back on Israel's right
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to sovereign self-defense. And further, an organization like the Human Rights Council enables countries
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with brutal regimes like Cuba, Venezuela, and North Korea to have a platform despite their own terrible
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records with human rights abuses. These organizations must get back to the founding principles of the UN,
05:06
which is to prevent war and to maintain international peace and security. If confirmed, I will work
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with the State Department on the outcome of their review, and I will review our participation in
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international organizations to make sure that everything that we do makes sure that America is
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stronger, safer, and more prosperous. Well, beyond review, I hope you hold them to account. Mr. Chair,
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if you would have indulged me with one final question, I'd like to come back to you, Ambassador Blanchard. I'm
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very interested in your leadership and look forward to your leadership at the UN's Food and Agricultural
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Organization and the related agencies in Rome. I visited that mission in the past, and I'm very
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concerned about the influence that exists there right now. The Director General today, Director Chu Deng-Yu,
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and his deputies have basically steered FAO priorities in the direction that supports Beijing
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and its desires, and certainly in means that don't support the United States and our allies.
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If you look ahead to the 2027 election of a new Director General, I'd just like to know if you plan
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to make certain that we have either a U.S. nominee or at least an ally as a nominee to be the new
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Director General so we can get this organization back on course. Thank you, Senator, for the question.
06:21
Certainly, I've been looking forward. I've already had the pleasure to speak with my deputy who has
06:30
already arrived at post, and I told him let's not get ahead of the Senate, but he has informed me of
06:37
some things, and we really would like to focus on building partnerships with our allies right away,
06:44
if confirmed when I get to post, because it's the partnerships that will be able to elect all the
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new entities, and of course all the infiltration, not to mention in the other areas that the CCP has
07:02
tried to take over abroad in our food sourcing. So it'll be my pleasure to partner with our allies and
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figure out how we can come together and pick a candidate that can win and that can lead this
07:18
organization with like-minded American initiatives. Well, I look forward to a new nominee and many more
07:24
purchases of Nebraska agricultural products. And with that, I'd also just like to commend all of our
07:30
nominees to the U.N. You've got a challenging job ahead of you, but we absolutely need you to take
07:35
care of that. And to our two country ambassadors nominees, I look forward to your confirmation and working
07:40
with you in your future roles. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
07:43
Thank you, Senator Herringy. Senator Coons.
07:45
Mr. Chairman, I'll defer to my friend and colleague from the state.
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