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  • 7/9/2025
“I have too many guilty pleasures.”

Known as the Grand Dame of Philippine Opera, Professor Emeritus Fides Cuyugan-Asensio looks back on her bright and colorful career as distinguished coloratura soprano, librettist, director and educator. Does she have any regrets? Pia Arcangel interviews a truly remarkable artist in this episode of Power Talks.

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00:00Tonight, we're honored to feature a national artist, the legendary soprano Fidesz Cuyugan Asensio.
00:07Join us here on Power Talks as we sit down and talk about her remarkable life and the voice that shaped Philippine theater and opera.
00:15One day, I got a call. Fidesz, congratulations. What for? You were voted in. Wow, I started screaming, yay!
00:23Yay! People ask me, what does it take? I said, passion, passion, passion, and share, share, share.
00:31That is my one regret. I wasn't able to balance it well enough. I have too many guilty pleasures.
00:39That has made me the happiest. When I feel that everything comes into place, that is, thank you, God.
00:46Because so many accidents can happen.
00:53Ma'am Fidesz, thank you so much for having us here at your beautiful home in your music room.
01:01You're welcome.
01:02I know that you're still very busy teaching. You still have students who come here to learn from you.
01:10We'd like to ask how you are. I mean, you were awarded the National Artist Award a few years ago.
01:17How's that been?
01:18I was already 93.
01:20Oh, at the age of 93? Okay.
01:23Yes, it took three times.
01:25Because the first time, they didn't know how to present me.
01:29The panel didn't know about my past as a singer.
01:34They knew it only as a writer, a libretto for opera.
01:40Said, where will you put her? Not in literature or not?
01:43Well, I mean, they don't expect me to sing until I'm 93.
01:48So I had to stop singing already.
01:50But the one who presented me knew what to do.
01:56So to put me as a singer, music, because how can you divorce the lyrics of a song from the melody?
02:09So these are melded together.
02:12So whether I'm a libertist, libertist means you write the lyrics for musicals and opera.
02:22So that's how I finally got it.
02:27Just so much fun because I knew that they were already deliberating the final, all the National Artists.
02:37And then one day I got a call from Dr. Ramon Santos, who is also Ramon, I mean, for music.
02:47He says, Phyllis, congratulations.
02:51What for?
02:53I said, why? Don't you know?
02:55What?
02:57Because he was my dean in UP.
03:00We were close.
03:02And she said, you were voted in.
03:05Wow, I started screaming, yay!
03:10Well, we saw in the photos and in the video when you were accepting your award,
03:14I think the joy was very evident in your face.
03:17So now that you have received the status of being National Artist,
03:23how did that change things for you?
03:25Aside, of course, from the influx of invitations to all sorts of events.
03:30I get a lot of perks.
03:32As in reimbursement of medical, my medicines, my diapers.
03:41We'll keep that our little secret.
03:46But we cannot overspend also.
03:49$711,000 a year.
03:51If you overspend, then you have to go from pocket.
03:54From pocket.
03:55Yeah.
03:56Although I have other income.
03:58Well, I heard that your doctors were very happy when you received the award.
04:04They said it really helped you.
04:08Is that correct?
04:09Oh, yes, of course.
04:10Actually, there was a time when I thought I wouldn't, I was giving up already.
04:17That's why there's a little documentary on me, Opera Master or Slave.
04:25Because as a singer, I am the slave of opera.
04:35As a director, I'm the master of opera.
04:42And I did all these things.
04:43I directed opera.
04:45Maybe some people don't know about it, but that's my life.
04:49It's so varied.
04:53Well, speaking of your career in opera, because of course, that's how the public came to know you.
05:00As one of the first Philippine, one of the great Philippine opera singers.
05:04Actually, they called you the great dame of Philippine music.
05:08And what was it like in the early years?
05:12Do you remember being like the pioneer of opera music here in the country?
05:18Yeah.
05:19Sometimes it was nice.
05:21There was jealousy, envy of my other colleagues.
05:26But some people put us up like cockfights.
05:31You know, they really made us fight.
05:33But you did not let that get to you.
05:36Were you able to rise above that?
05:39The fighting?
05:41Sometimes it hurts, you know.
05:43Like there was one who criticized my doing commercials.
05:49Oh, for television.
05:52Another singer, an opera singer.
05:54I'm putting the status of an opera singer down because I was doing commercials.
06:01I said, I get paid for the commercials, 600 pesos.
06:07So is she going to give it to me?
06:09I can't pick it up from the street.
06:12It was a funny commercial in the first place.
06:16Plus also because by doing the commercials, then more people knew about you and about opera.
06:21Yes.
06:22As well.
06:22That's why in Sunday, it's Sunday.
06:24It's way before your time.
06:26When I used to go to Divisoria to get material for our costumes, they would sing.
06:38Sunday, sweet Sunday.
06:42Oh my gosh.
06:43I said, you watch the show?
06:45The show.
06:47Divisoria.
06:48So see, everybody knew.
06:51Everybody knew.
06:52Sunday, sweet Sunday.
06:53A little night of music.
06:55I remember growing up, my parents would watch A Little Night of Music.
06:59And I was thinking, was singing something that you had always wanted to do?
07:06Even as a young girl, was it something you had dreamed of doing professionally?
07:09Yes, actually, I started very early.
07:14My mother was always playing little excerpts from opera on the piano, and she would sing.
07:20These are excerpts simplified.
07:22And of course, I was only six, seven.
07:25I would hear this all the time.
07:28And when my parents, actually, not only my mother, when my parents would quarell, as many
07:38people do, my mother would leave and go to her hometown, leave me as a little girl.
07:45My father would bring me to his, he was a surgeon, surgeon of President Quezon then.
07:54Bring me to the operating room, put me on a stool, and he would be singing while he was
08:00operating.
08:00So I think I inherited from both.
08:03Oh, I can imagine a young you, sitting on a stool while your father is in the operating
08:09room, would you join him sometimes in the singing back then?
08:13Yeah.
08:14Somehow, it sunk into me.
08:16I was very, very young.
08:17And the actual performing part of my opera was, happened when Shirley Temple, she was so
08:27famous, here in the Philippines, how every mother dressed their, their daughters like
08:34her.
08:34Black hair, chinky eyed.
08:38They didn't look like Shirley Temple at all, but they put her, and that's what my mother
08:43did.
08:43She would curl my hair, my black hair, and she would make me sing.
08:50She would ask me to sing for the guests.
08:53So that was my earliest performing.
08:56Wow.
08:56And so when you told your parents that you wanted to pursue a career in singing and continue
09:01performing?
09:03I didn't have to say.
09:04I just was part of it.
09:08And of course, as I grew, I would win declamation medals and oratorical medals.
09:15So I loved the audience.
09:17You were the first Filipina to get into Curtis.
09:19Curtis, that was the work of my teacher in Philippine Women's University.
09:25She scouted, she died early though.
09:30She scouted for the best schools in America.
09:32It was not Juilliard then, just Curtis.
09:36And when I went to audition, I was told that you have to wait for two weeks.
09:40And then as I went down the stairs, the teacher was going to take me, peeked over the railway,
09:50the railings of the stairs.
09:52You will be my student.
09:55Right then and there, after I sang, I don't know what I did.
10:00Oh, did you get nervous still?
10:03I mean, like every performance, even like after how many years, would you still get nervous?
10:08I was more excited.
10:10Actually, if I didn't make it at Curtis, I was planning to go to Europe.
10:14So that's how my fate was decided.
10:17When the teacher who was going to teach me told me, you're in.
10:23I'll tell you something funny.
10:25I was the Philippine, first Filipina.
10:27Yes, at Curtis.
10:28At Curtis.
10:30As a matter of fact, when I got my records.
10:33Ah, the transcript of records.
10:35It says there's race, Mongolian.
10:38I said, oh my God, they didn't know the Philippines.
10:42Oh, okay.
10:42So they just assumed that you were.
10:44Voila.
10:44So, yeah.
10:46So you were the first, you were the first to introduce them to the Philippines.
10:50Oh, what a huge honor as well.
10:52And we're so lucky that you were able to do that for us.
10:55So were you the only Asian when you were studying there?
11:00Or were there others?
11:03My student.
11:04Ah.
11:0540 years after.
11:07Wow.
11:07Only after 40 years?
11:09There was a tenor though.
11:12Not my student.
11:13He was trained in the States.
11:15He got in to Curtis.
11:17That's it.
11:18And then I recommended the tenor.
11:20Later on, much later on.
11:23And he got in.
11:25Noel Velasco.
11:27So you spent a lifetime singing, not just here, but also abroad.
11:34And how did you balance all that out with other things, like with family, with other affairs?
11:41That is my one regret.
11:45I wasn't able to balance it well enough.
11:48Because singing takes so much out of you.
11:52You cannot stay up late.
11:54You cannot catch cold.
11:55So I have to tell my children when they catch a cold, don't come near me, etc.
12:00That's my regret in life.
12:05Why is it important to share?
12:06To share this knowledge and this passion for music?
12:10Well, you don't expect it to die with you when you go.
12:15You have to share.
12:16First of all, people ask me, what does it take?
12:21I said, passion, passion, passion, and share, share, share.
12:26Those are the two things.
12:28Because if you don't share, then it dies with you.
12:34Is that why you got into teaching?
12:36You know, I am not even sure why I got into teaching.
12:40Oh, no, no, no, no, no.
12:42We needed the money.
12:44Oh, that's how it started.
12:46Yes.
12:47My husband wasn't earning too much then.
12:50I would go from house to house to house to house.
12:53I taught in all the schools.
12:57La Concordia, PWU, St. Paul's, just all the schools.
13:02What is the most important thing or the most important lesson that we can learn from music?
13:10The most important letter is to know what's behind the lyrics.
13:17The lyrics first, before the melody.
13:22When you know what it means, then you can impart it better.
13:28If your life were to be told via opera, what kind of opera would that be?
13:36That's a good question.
13:38I don't know.
13:41Imagine that.
13:42All that you've written so far, you never thought about writing your own story in an opera?
13:48Maybe I'd like to write it myself.
13:53Would it be a love story?
13:56Would it be a comedy?
13:59Probably comedy.
14:01Full of laughter.
14:03Actually, the first attention I got from the press as an opera singer was in Fledermaus.
14:12Fledermaus, the flying mouse, it's very funny.
14:18It's a comedy opera.
14:21And I got good reviews.
14:24And that's how they first came to know about you.
14:26Yeah.
14:27Yeah.
14:27And Sisa.
14:29Actually, almost at the same time I did Sisa, 1957.
14:34And you did Sisa for a very long time.
14:3840 years.
14:39Was there a time that you got tired of playing the role of Sisa?
14:43Yeah.
14:44But as I went on, it evolved.
14:47At first, I was doing a lot of movements.
14:51Later on, I became more still.
14:54Okay.
14:54As Sisa.
14:56Do you still remember your very last performance on stage?
14:59My very last would be, for my own composition, I mean, my own libretto, Spoliarium.
15:08I was the mother-in-law of Juan Luna.
15:14You know the story of Juan Luna.
15:16He killed his mother-in-law.
15:18And I'm also proud to say that Miss Kassilag of the CCP, I wrote her last opera.
15:29And I wrote her first opera also.
15:35Her very first, which people have not heard about, Larawa ng Kababaihan, Mascara at Mukha.
15:41And then the last one was, Why Flowers Bloom in May.
15:46She was already blind.
15:48She was almost deaf.
15:50She couldn't talk.
15:51Just so difficult for me to get the music out of her.
15:55But somehow, I managed.
15:58We managed.
15:59Well, your lifetime in music has been spent both on and off the stage.
16:05And you have truly embraced music with such passion, so much love.
16:09And we can see that.
16:10We can see that in you today with all your work.
16:13And I think for me, speaking with you, the best thing I learned, or the most important thing I learned,
16:19is that value of sharing and passing it on to make sure that, like you said, that it continues.
16:26That the legacy continues.
16:28Actually, no.
16:29A lot of people are already writing.
16:32But it's more on musical theater.
16:34But they're writing.
16:35So I think I have done quite something to have started it.
16:42There are very few operas or musical theater in Filipino.
16:48My first question for you, Madam Fidesz.
16:55What is one secret guilty pleasure that you enjoy up to this day?
17:01I have too many guilty pleasures.
17:03Maybe we can tell them about what Ms. Antoinette was saying, that you liked watching your K-dramas until now.
17:12I like watching TV.
17:14Yes?
17:14Yes, of course.
17:16K-dramas?
17:18Korean?
17:19You like the Korean drama?
17:20Korean, yeah.
17:21Korean dramas, this is an advertisement for them.
17:24They always have a lesson at the end.
17:26And very wholesome, too.
17:29If you're going to steal something from the ref without telling anybody, what would that mean?
17:33Ice cream.
17:34Ice cream.
17:36Every singer's no-no is ice cream.
17:39But now you can't.
17:40That's not true.
17:41Oh, it's not?
17:41It's a myth.
17:43The cold of the ice cream doesn't go to the vocal cords.
17:47Oh.
17:48It goes to the esophagus.
17:51So how come singers don't like eating ice cream?
17:54Ah, that's something they hear.
17:56They just make up?
17:58Yeah.
17:59Fides, in your lifetime spent in opera, in the theater, in music, what has made you the happiest?
18:08What about music has made you the happiest?
18:11Whoa.
18:13Like, what has made me the happiest?
18:16When I feel that everything comes into place.
18:21You know, the singers, the story, the orchestra, everything.
18:29That is a thank you, God.
18:33Because so many accidents can happen.
18:35I'll tell you, I'm going back.
18:41The first rock opera, Lapu-Lapu, which I was in, we had an accident.
18:50And then, one of the stage crews fell from high because there was no guardrail.
19:01Those things, they had to stop.
19:03And then, the Magellan, he was impaled on.
19:10Oh, no.
19:11So, every time it all works together, it's a thank you, Lord moment.
19:18Oh, yes.
19:18Madam Fides, thank you so much.
19:21Thank you once again for sharing all your stories with us.
19:24We hope you enjoyed this afternoon looking back and reminiscing about everything.
19:30Thank you so much, ma'am.
19:33Thanks for watching.
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19:44Till the next episode.
19:45We'll see you next time.
20:15We'll see you next time.
20:16Bye-bye.
20:16Bye-bye.
20:16Bye-bye.
20:16Bye-bye.
20:16Bye-bye.
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