SHAMS BOMB! The Miami Heat are making moves!!! The Clippers, Utah Jazz and Miami Heat agree to trade Norman Powell to Miami in a three team deal. We discuss the details of the trade as we sort out Miami's Haul. The guys react to the trade and other rumors circulating around the Miami Heat. Tobin theorizes that this may be the "Move before the Move."
00:02The Miami Heat have just traded for Norman Powell in a three-teamer with the Jazz and Clippers.
00:11The Heat are acquiring the very high-scoring shooting guard from L.A.
00:19Last year of his deal makes $20 million this season.
00:21He'll be a free agent after next year, unless the Heat are going to extend him.
00:24Um, John Collins, who was in some Heat rumors, he's going to the Clippers.
00:31Kevin Love, Kyle Anderson, and a Clippers 2027 second-round pick to the Jazz.
00:38So the Heat essentially got Norman Powell for two expiring deals and flipped for the expiring deals.
00:44But they gave up nothing for him.
00:46I mean, respectfully to Kevin Love, didn't play last year because of everything he was going through.
00:50And Kyle Anderson, slow-mo, it was a great 30 games, dude.
00:55So the Miami Heat go and get a guy who's a career 40% three-point shooter, had a career-high nearly 22 points a game last, uh, last season.
01:04Um, it's, uh, I mean, we were talking a lot.
01:08I think we were all expecting, hey, were the Heat going to get in line for the Bradley Beal sweepstakes that are probably going to start here?
01:14This would obviously...
01:15You want Bradley Beal?
01:16Well, I'm just saying that there was, there was a lot, you know, Leroy, there was a lot of fodder over the weekend.
01:21Whether I want him or not, there was a lot of talk.
01:23I don't, I don't really think it made a lot of sense, but he's, like, you're essentially getting a guy, uh, with the Clippers last year who did exactly, who did exactly what Bradley Beal is, same age as Bradley Beal.
01:34Um, and is a better shooter than Bradley Beal.
01:38Right.
01:39But it's, uh, man, we got action, Jack!
01:42We got action!
01:44And, as Emmanuel, uh, points out, does open up a roster spot for Miami, so in case they do want to get Damien Lillard...
01:51Wink!
01:53So...
01:54They now have a roster move.
01:56I, I mean, I, I hear you.
01:58David said, did we learn nothing last year?
02:00Terry Rozier, a shooter, uh, a looter and a riot.
02:03Yeah, but they weren't bad last year.
02:06Like, Terry Rozier was on an awful, awful Hornets team.
02:09The Clippers weren't bad last year.
02:10Right.
02:12Like, that's not, you know, that's not a, uh, it's not a problem.
02:15They just did, I think what they're at is, look, they've already spent a lot of money on that team.
02:20They probably got to, I don't know what Zubach is, but Zubach has had an amazing season.
02:24They got to trim some fat on that team.
02:26So, I think with Norman Powell being on an expiring...
02:29Now, I don't know where this puts the heat as far as, are they planning to extend Norman Powell?
02:34Uh, I don't know.
02:35I think that this is, but it definitely gives them that scoring punch that they were looking for.
02:40I mean, we talked about this heat team with no Duncan Robinson, Leroy.
02:44No shooting.
02:45I mean, no shooting.
02:47Hey, let me ask you guys this question.
02:49Yep.
02:49What do you think the heat's over under is?
02:52I know what it is.
02:54Okay.
02:56But...
02:56Frog Boy?
02:57Do you want to, uh, do you want to get Frog Boy on it?
03:00Yeah.
03:00I would say 40.
03:03Oh, no.
03:03Hey, let me ask you something.
03:05Yeah.
03:06Did you read the show?
03:08Why?
03:08Is it on there?
03:10Or did you just happen to hear it?
03:12Who, me?
03:13Yeah, you.
03:13Oh, you're talking to Leroy.
03:14Okay.
03:14No, I was looking at the email.
03:16You looked at the email?
03:18Oh, you got the email.
03:19Oh, so you got the over-unders from, like, Beto, uh, from Beto, Beto Line?
03:23Yeah.
03:24Oh, I thought he actually read the show.
03:25I'm so proud of him.
03:26Because I actually put it on there.
03:29Wait, you put it on there?
03:30I'm so stupid.
03:31I'm a stupid boy.
03:32Yeah.
03:33Oh.
03:33I'm a stupid boy.
03:34Oh.
03:35Why would I think that?
03:37So, wait.
03:39So.
03:40Oh, I see what that is.
03:41Magic says 81, I'm guessing.
03:44Magic 81.
03:45I would take Bradley, Bill, or Lillard.
03:47But, dude, what has plagued you the last three years, you cannot sign up for that again.
03:55You can't.
03:57I don't care what you think of the player.
04:00Like, if you've been scarred, and Pat Riley has been scarred by the injuries and not knowing
04:09what to do with the talent because you never see the talent on the court, it would be buffoonery
04:17to then go out and sign an injured player.
04:21I'm curious about this with Norman.
04:24Like, do you think with bringing him in, is he going to start?
04:30Because he was, he was essentially, he was essentially a sixth man, like the last two years, his first
04:36two years in LA.
04:37So, he's used to that role.
04:38But we know Tyler and Davion being on the team, like, you're not starting all three of those
04:45guys.
04:45I wouldn't think.
04:46Is he?
04:47But, but doesn't he play the same position as Tyler?
04:51Pretty much.
04:52Yeah.
04:53So, that means he's coming off the bench.
04:54Pretty much.
04:56But.
04:57That means he's coming off the bench.
04:58And then it could go small periodically.
05:00Unless.
05:01Uh-oh.
05:02Move before the move.
05:05Whoa.
05:07What if it's the move before the move?
05:09The move before the move.
05:11Because then they're Trey Tyler.
05:13I'm just asking.
05:14I don't know.
05:15I don't know.
05:15I'm just.
05:17I don't know.
05:18I mean, it's something he's obviously, he's obviously used to.
05:21He just had the best year of his career starting for the Clippers.
05:24Probably, you know, as somebody mentioned, TNT had him as, like, their number one all-star
05:29snub last year.
05:30Unless they put him at three.
05:32Put him at the three.
05:33That's a small.
05:34That's a small.
05:35That's a small one through three.
05:38Without anybody who can really, well, play defense.
05:43Davion, I don't know, get in your face a little bit.
05:45Yeah, Davion can play defense.
05:46But he's, he's, he's essentially, he's, you know, I'm just saying it's, it's small.
05:51That's all.
05:52I guess you could do it.
05:54No, it's not like it, it's not like you could, you would have, look, you'd have two
05:58dynamic shooters out there.
06:01So I'm just wondering, is it the move before the move or is it, who would we acquire though?
06:07Like, cause I see everyone's like, get here all out of there.
06:09Who's like, because I'm, I'm done with Bradley Beal.
06:12I'd never want to hear his name again.
06:13I want him to retire.
06:14Well, you know, you don't have to worry about that anymore.
06:16I would think.
06:17Doesn't, doesn't, doesn't seem to make a lot of sense to bring him into.
06:21That's what I love.
06:22But Tyler hero, who like, I see everyone saying in the chat, for example, trade him, get, move
06:28on from him.
06:28Who, who else, who else are we going to acquire?
06:31Why?
06:31I don't understand.
06:33Why does everybody want to move on from Tyler?
06:36I don't get it.
06:36I don't, I don't know.
06:37I think it just has to do with the payday.
06:38That's what they're scared of.
06:40Like he's going to, he's going to be, there's a lot of people that think he's no good.
06:44There's a lot of people who are, are just, you know, he, look, he hasn't had a lot of
06:47playoff success since he was a rookie.
06:49But well, and here's the deal.
06:52When your team was better and you qualify for the playoffs, then Tyler looks different.
07:00But in a lot of aspects of his game, he's better.
07:03He has gotten a lot better.
07:04So why, you see what I mean?
07:06Why are you fed up now?
07:08Cause the team's not doing well.
07:09Well, that has a lot to do with a lot more than one guy.
07:12That's fair.
07:13It's totally fair.
07:14He's not, he's, it's not like the roster has been well-constructed.
07:17He hasn't.
07:17And that's the thing.
07:18That's an interesting part about bam and Tyler is like, it's not that either one of
07:22them aren't good players nor deserving of making a lot of money.
07:26They're just not good at what they were asked to do.
07:29Um, but also the best, but also when you're paying max money, if they're not guys who are
07:34a ones now look, man, they just got a lot more talented.
07:38They did just get a lot more talented.
07:40So like you're, you just essentially flipped two guys who are end of the bench guys for,
07:45you know, one of the Clippers most important players last year and they were a lot better
07:50than you.
07:51So, but it is, but you, you mentioned like, Hey, this guy has a lot of that, that style
07:58there.
07:58Now, are they just, Hey, more shooting you're going, you're going like Celtic style.
08:04Uh, you're going Pacer style of like, who cares?
08:08Let's just get a lot of guys who can shoot and score and let's have some fun baby because
08:13that, that like, let's, let's be real about it.
08:15Like the heat of stunk at offense, but they also haven't a lot of, they haven't had a lot
08:18of talented offensive players either.
08:20Right.
08:20Jimmy can score, but you wouldn't consider him like a bonafide bucket getter.
08:29Yeah.
08:30And especially in the regular season, like it's, it's been like his, his uptick in the, in
08:34the playoffs is crazy.
08:35Like it's one of the, like, he doesn't have the, I know he says, playoff Jimmy's not a
08:39thing, but there's a reason why we're all flummoxed.
08:41He doesn't shoot threes until he gets to the playoffs.
08:43Oh, well one, he's playoff Jimmy because he plays all the damn games.
08:47Sometimes he did miss some others.
08:49Oh, geez.
08:50That Hawk series.
08:54Crazy.
08:55I did forget Wiggins is still on the team though.
08:57We still do.
08:58He is still on the team.
08:59There was some, uh, there was some, uh, there was some Wiggins fodder last week about the
09:03Lakers.
09:04Yeah.
09:05Who just picked up Aiton, right?
09:06Not too long ago.
09:07A couple of days ago.
09:07Now all of a sudden the Lakers want, now all of a sudden, uh, well, I want to play with Wiggins.
09:13Yeah.
09:13All of a sudden.
09:14Well, maybe he doesn't.
09:15I don't know.
09:15Maybe they think LeBron's, uh, you know, looking around being like, I'm going to get out of
09:19here.
09:20I'll tell you one thing though.
09:23I watched that Dalton connect yesterday in summer league.
09:26Woof.
09:27Oh, not good.
09:28Oh, now to be fair.
09:31Yeah.
09:32Our, our sweet little Lithuanian Luca.
09:34No.
09:35Tough start.
09:37Rough.
09:37It's been a tough start.
09:38Bronny James took his cookies, man.
09:41Wait, wait, wait.
09:42First of all, he'd been a pro for not even a week.
09:47I'm just saying, Hey, I'm not saying that he's bad.
09:51I'm just saying tough start.
09:53I mean, like it's funny because your worst game can't be your first one.
09:59Otherwise you got, well, it wasn't his second one was his worst one.
10:05Incredibly as bad as his first one was yesterday was worse.
10:09Yeah.
10:09Cause his first one he shot bad, but he contributed in other ways.
10:13Yesterday he contributed to the Lakers.
10:16Okay.
10:17All right.
10:17Turnovers.
10:18Oh, dude.
10:21Still love them though.
10:22Hustle.
10:23Intangibles.
10:24That's the thing I've seen most of them.
10:26I'm like, let's get hustles.
10:32I don't know.
10:33I'm trying to go back to the stats, but I believe Jovic had a, had a slow start as well in summer league.
10:39And if not, then I don't know.
10:42Something gives me hope though, that although he started slow, we had something like this similar.
10:46Hey, you don't think some of these guys come into this situation and they're a little too ramped up and they're excited.
10:56He definitely looks like he's, uh, he's playing with squeaky cheeks.
11:00Like he's, he's definitely like he had a, he had a play yesterday and it was like, Oh, this is going to be an awesome.
11:06And he like, he did a bounce pass that bounced so damn high Leroy.
11:10Like it looked like he was playing with a super rubber ball.
11:12I was like, but it would have been sweet if he finished it.
11:17I was like, wow.
11:18You can see, you can see some things, but he's definitely playing tight right now.
11:22But everybody knows this.
11:24Look, everybody knows this.
11:26Anybody worth their salt.
11:29Some of the don't start till Vegas.
11:30Everybody knows that.
11:31All right.
11:32This is the preseason.
11:33Wait, wait, wait.
11:33Can I ask you another question?
11:35That's true.
11:36If that's the case, then why are you getting all crazy on him already?
11:41Oh, I'm not getting crazy.
11:41I'm not getting crazy.
11:43I'm not getting crazy.
11:43I'm just explaining.
11:44I'm just telling you what happened.
11:45Okay.
11:48I found the, uh, stat that I was looking for.
11:51Essentially.
11:52Yo, which first two, uh, summer league games and 22, he had just nine points.
11:59He was, uh, one for seven from three and four for 14 overall.
12:04And then in the third one, he had like 25 points.
12:06So maybe that happens the same thing with, uh, our boy ghosty.
12:09Maybe he does the same thing.
12:10Oh, Leroy.
12:11Yeah.
12:11I mean, that was my original.
12:13And Leroy was like, he's 19.
12:16Like those first couple of games by yo bitch.
12:18Yeesh.
12:21I'm actually, it's not even the thing I'm most concerned about with summer league,
12:24but I got to take a break.
12:26I'll tell you what it is.
12:28We'll continue talking about this.
12:29Norman Powell trade.
12:30If you're just tuning in the Miami heat, I've traded for no one pound, a three team deal.
12:33Kevin Love, Kyle Anderson headed to the jazz, the Clippers sending John or the Clippers
12:38get John Collins from the jazz who also the Clippers sent a second round pick, but the
12:43heater get Norman Powell.
12:44Great season last year for the Clippers in the last year of his deal, making 20 million,
