Married at First Sight Australia season 12 episode 29

ByteSaga Chronicles

MAFS Australia S12E29: Trust is Broken & Hearts Are Tested! 💔🔥   The honeymoon is officially over.  In Episode 29, couples face serious crossroads — betrayal, brutal honesty, and emotional breakdowns push relationships to the edge.  Will love survive the storm, or will secrets tear it all apart?   🎥 Raw emotion. Real conflict. And the episode that has fans divided.  👉 Watch now and see which couples crack… and which ones fight for love!   #MAFSAU   #MarriedAtFirstSight   #MAFS2025   #MAFSSeason12   #MAFSEpisode29   #RealityTV   #RealityTVUSA   #LoveAndDrama   #TVDramaSeries   #EmotionalTV   #HeartbreakMoments   #RealityTVRecap   #MarriageExperiment   #CouplesTherapy   #BreakupDrama   #RealLoveStory   #RelationshipBreakdown   #TVShowHighlights   #EmotionalRollercoaster   #MAFSAddiction   #DramaticConfessions   #USARealityTV   #MAFSDrama2025   #LoveOrLies   #ShockingReveals   #DramaUnfolds   #CouplesInCrisis   #RealityTVAddict   #RelationshipTwist   #TrendingRealityTV   #RealityTVClips   #ViralRealityDrama   #TVEmotions   #MAFSAustralia2025   #HighCPMContent   #MarriageMeltdown   #DramaAlert   #MAFSRecap   #USRealityWatch   #RealCoupleMoments   #RelationshipExplosions   #UnfilteredReality   #RealityChaos   #MAFSFinalWeeks   #ViralDramaMoments   #RelationshipTensions   #TVConflict   #LoveOnTheEdge   #USARealityViral   #EmotionalTVDrama

Transcript

00:00:00Previously...

00:00:01And the Oscar goes to...

00:00:03...feedback week exposed even more cracks.

00:00:07Your extreme sense of masculine pride and fragile ego are difficult to deal with.

00:00:11As Jackie did not hold back in her honesty letter.

00:00:15I'm concerned that you financially contribute less than I will,

00:00:19putting you in a place which might be the primary caregiver.

00:00:22I will never be a stay-at-home dad.

00:00:24It's insulting that I would even consider that.

00:00:27Paul's brutal confession...

00:00:31She can come across as very judgy.

00:00:34You said to me that you were surprised that I would go for that kind of calibre.

00:00:37...left Karina feeling blindsided.

00:00:40You threw me under the bus with Afina's sister.

00:00:44I don't hate the girl.

00:00:46The girl.

00:00:48I don't hate the girl.

00:00:50But it was Dave's coldness at the dinner party...

00:00:53I feel like our entire relationship is alive.

00:00:56...that shocked the room.

00:00:57This is not the Dave we know.

00:00:59No.

00:01:00Who is that man?

00:01:01That's not the Dave I've met.

00:01:03...and left Jamie heartbroken.

00:01:05He's hurt me so much.

00:01:07Who have I been laying next to this whole experiment, Dave?

00:01:13Tonight...

00:01:14I feel inadequate sometimes.

00:01:15I feel like I don't measure up.

00:01:17Vulnerability is laid bare.

00:01:20It's because maybe he's not attracted to me like I am to him.

00:01:24It's the second last commitment ceremony of the experiment.

00:01:28I came here to find my forever person and I wholeheartedly hope that it's Jeff.

00:01:33I love that.

00:01:34Yeah.

00:01:35Somebody over there is lying.

00:01:39The experts apply the pressure.

00:01:41You're lacking emotional intelligence.

00:01:43There seems to be a sensitivity chip missing.

00:01:46As Paul faces the consequences of his honesty letter.

00:01:50I felt like I can't fully trust him right now.

00:01:52Are you now questioning whether or not you and Paul are truly compatible as a couple?

00:01:56I didn't expect that.

00:02:02And then...

00:02:04We spent five couch sessions with you thinking everything is going well.

00:02:09Dave's moment of truth.

00:02:11Do you have romantic feelings for Jamie, Dave?

00:02:16Um...

00:02:18Man.

00:02:26The countdown is on to the second last commitment ceremony of the experiment.

00:02:38But last night's explosive dinner party has left lingering effects on most of our couples.

00:02:45Except Rhi and Jeff.

00:02:47Is this the most comfortable that you've ever been?

00:02:49Oh yeah, this is great.

00:02:50This might be the new position when we chat on the couch.

00:02:52What me and Rhi have is pretty special and that's what relationships should be like.

00:03:01Sometimes I look around and other couples are fighting and it's hard to see.

00:03:05And I'm just like, oh, I just wish you guys could be on the same page as us.

00:03:13Last night's dinner party revealed Feedback Week has exposed cracks in several relationships.

00:03:20I think the biggest moment from last night was definitely Dave and Jamie.

00:03:25No one saw that coming.

00:03:27As clear as day, Dave does want to sleep with her in my eyes.

00:03:31And more importantly, does he even like her?

00:03:34I would be worried more about that than the sex.

00:03:37I walked off confused.

00:03:39Yeah, that's what she...

00:03:40I can only imagine what she feels.

00:03:41It just goes to show you don't know what goes on internally that was making her, like, dissatisfied.

00:03:46Yeah.

00:03:47You know?

00:03:48With Dave, like, I feel annoyed because he wasn't reflecting early on and he wasn't being open and communicating with her.

00:03:54I'm still so not sure what's going to happen there.

00:03:56Yeah, I feel for Jamie, like, seeing her so upset.

00:03:59Dave wasn't himself last night, that's for sure.

00:04:01No, not at all.

00:04:02Just, yeah, super distant.

00:04:03Yeah.

00:04:05I just didn't realise that so many people were in so much trouble, really.

00:04:10But it's not just Jamie and Dave's relationship that's on shaky ground.

00:04:17I feel like Feedback Week had a negative impact on Paul and my relationship.

00:04:23I do feel a little bit let down by Paul.

00:04:26I think how he wrote his letter, I didn't realise the consequences.

00:04:30In his honesty letter, Paul revealed a comment Karina had made privately about Athena's twin sister, who Paul had once dated.

00:04:40She said, oh, I didn't know you would go for that kind of calibre.

00:04:43Yeah.

00:04:44Wow.

00:04:45I feel like she is a bit of a snob sometimes and can come across as very judgy.

00:04:50And I'll be honest with you, this is giving me the ick.

00:04:53Did you read that to Athena?

00:04:55Yeah.

00:04:56Yeah.

00:04:57At the dinner party, Athena accepted Karina's heartfelt apology.

00:05:02It was a rude comment.

00:05:03It was disrespectful.

00:05:04And I judged you.

00:05:05And I'm sorry if that comment just hurt you so much.

00:05:09But tensions arose between Karina and Paul.

00:05:12You threw me under the bus, Paul.

00:05:14I didn't throw you under the bus.

00:05:15You brought up the comment about Athena's sister.

00:05:17No one had to know about that but you and me.

00:05:20Last night's dinner party just had no resolution between Paul and I.

00:05:27And I'm struggling to move past it.

00:05:33The whole like, feeling like you got thrown under the bus or saying that you have your walls up and everything is...

00:05:41Yeah, I think I'm still struggling a little bit with just that part.

00:05:44I'm a bit surprised like how you can't see where I'm coming from with like feeling a little bit hurt.

00:05:55And right now I've just lost the trust.

00:05:58I would never throw my partner under the bus like that.

00:06:03If I had thrown that comment at a dinner party in front of 15 people, I would understand.

00:06:07But it was literally only between Athena and I.

00:06:10Yeah, but like the whole task was about me giving feedback.

00:06:13So the fact that it's completely been turned around that it's all about you and how you feel.

00:06:19You know?

00:06:21This task was meant to be between Athena and I.

00:06:23I was meant to be honest and open with her.

00:06:26That's what I've done.

00:06:27That's what I did.

00:06:30Now it gets thrown back in my face and now all of a sudden I just...

00:06:33Karina doesn't trust me anymore.

00:06:34While Feedback Week exposed cracks in Karina and Paul's relationship...

00:06:41For Elliot, Veronica's honesty letter shattered any hopes of a relationship at all.

00:06:48I think this has kind of been bubbling under the surface.

00:06:51There's kind of been this sort of thin veneer covering Veronica's resentment that she had towards me.

00:06:57And since reading out our letters, that veneer is gone.

00:07:03And it's obvious that my wife hates me.

00:07:08Obviously she mentioned Dave a lot in her letter.

00:07:12Which is weird when you're writing a letter about the concerns about our relationship.

00:07:16I don't have to prompt Dave to open up.

00:07:18When Dave and I have conversed it's effortless and the communication flows easily.

00:07:22Dave makes me feel connected and sane.

00:07:25But unfortunately I don't feel the same way with you.

00:07:29Okay.

00:07:32I don't know what to say.

00:07:34Like it sucks that you feel that way.

00:07:36I tried to connect with your letter and I tried to...

00:07:38Do you think that that's appropriate that you're patronising me Elliot?

00:07:41When you do that...

00:07:42Do you think that that's appropriate that you're patronising me?

00:07:44So it turns out we still can't be in the same room together.

00:07:47You have no respect and I'm not interested in pursuing anything with you.

00:07:51You're beneath me.

00:07:52And the Oscar goes to...

00:07:55Veronica!

00:07:59Her letter, I think, just took things over the top.

00:08:04I feel like I've really pushed myself outside my comfort zone.

00:08:07Trying to make it work.

00:08:09But there's no real way that I could reconcile with Veronica now.

00:08:14This isn't something that we can overcome as a couple.

00:08:26The commitment ceremony is just hours away.

00:08:30Where our couples will face the experts.

00:08:33And decide whether to stay in the experiment.

00:08:39Or leave their marriages.

00:08:44But one bride is yet to decide if she'll attend at all.

00:08:47Hey, how are you going?

00:08:48Hi, I'm Davey.

00:08:49I'm Dave.

00:08:50Your big friendly giant.

00:08:51Soon to be husband.

00:08:52I vow to be honest and open with my feelings.

00:08:53I vow to make you feel seen and heard.

00:08:54What?

00:08:55It's okay.

00:08:56You're safe.

00:08:57Don't worry.

00:08:58Okay.

00:08:59You guys gotta go!

00:09:00You guys!

00:09:01Back her up, boys!

00:09:02Husband, I vow to be honest and open with my feelings.

00:09:07I vow to make you feel seen and heard.

00:09:11It's okay.

00:09:13You're safe.

00:09:13Don't worry.

00:09:16Okay.

00:09:17You guys are going to go.

00:09:19You guys.

00:09:19You're going to see the back.

00:09:21Back her up, boys.

00:09:23Now I'm really thinking future, and I felt like my feelings just went...

00:09:27I did.

00:09:29Massively.

00:09:29It makes me feel warm and fuzzy and excited thinking about the future.

00:09:40I genuinely believed we were in a really good place.

00:09:45So right now, I don't feel confident in my relationship.

00:09:51I don't know who I've been married to.

00:09:54At the dinner party, Jamie and the rest of the group

00:09:58struggled to deal with an uncharacteristically cold Dave.

00:10:02Gosh, Dave's so different.

00:10:05He's got a wall up.

00:10:05He's detached.

00:10:07He's checked out.

00:10:08Who have I been laying next to this whole experiment, Dave?

00:10:12I'm not at the level of love that you have.

00:10:14It's not tell me you love me.

00:10:16It's how far in we are.

00:10:17You have not shown up for me.

00:10:20No.

00:10:20Do you want this relationship?

00:10:25Of course I want this to work.

00:10:27I am sorry that I made you feel that way.

00:10:29I really am.

00:10:30Like, you are so special to me.

00:10:34I am sorry.

00:10:35You have to say it was a hard day.

00:10:40And I 100% still question Dave's feelings.

00:10:46That's why Dave needs to prove himself.

00:10:49Like, knock on my door with flowers.

00:10:51Post-it notes, write a poem, everything.

00:10:55Prove that what he's saying is genuine.

00:10:58Prove that, like, you haven't just fallen in love

00:11:01with someone who doesn't exist.

00:11:04That's what I'm hoping for today.

00:11:06This day one of him proving it.

00:11:09How are you feeling?

00:11:11Fantastic.

00:11:13Oh, good.

00:11:16Yeah, I guess I just want to say...

00:11:19..last night there was...

00:11:23I don't know, you did speak to me...

00:11:26..like, probably the worst you spoke to me

00:11:28is throughout this experiment.

00:11:29..you said some things to me

00:11:31that hurt me last night as well.

00:11:38Dave, seriously, that's what you're going to get hung up on?

00:11:41Well, it seems like this whole...

00:11:44..as well as, like, the intimacy and stuff throughout,

00:11:47you've really talked about it and how good it was,

00:11:49and then now it's like, it's not at all.

00:11:52And you know what?

00:11:53Coming at me the way you did, it took me back

00:11:55cos I just didn't think that we had that in.

00:11:57I need you to just stop what you're doing right now.

00:12:00Don't defend yourself, don't plead your case,

00:12:02don't save face whatever the hell it is you're doing

00:12:05and realise how badly you've let me down and just own it.

00:12:08I'm not feeling the way that she wants me to feel

00:12:18or, like, so demanding for me to feel, so...

00:12:22Just because you're jumping to demands doesn't mean I'm going to do it.

00:12:25You came in last night wanting to keep me.

00:12:28Yeah.

00:12:29Wanting to fight for me.

00:12:30Fight for me, homeboy.

00:12:32Fight for me.

00:12:33Well, it just seems like it's not happening.

00:12:35Like, I'm...

00:12:36You haven't even tried one day, Dave.

00:12:38But this is conversation.

00:12:39You don't understand where I'm coming from.

00:12:41I don't feel the way you feel, Jamie.

00:12:43It's hard for me to express that.

00:12:44I'm not asking you to, but when you tell me last night

00:12:47that you're going to prove it to me

00:12:49and then you come in and cast problems onto me,

00:12:52like, what are we doing here?

00:12:53Why didn't you give me some bullshit excuse last night

00:12:56that you're going to...

00:12:57I do care about you, Jamie.

00:12:58That you care.

00:12:58I do.

00:12:59You're telling the table you care

00:13:00and you want to fight for us.

00:13:02What was that?

00:13:03Just to look like a hero for a minute?

00:13:11Stop with me because my feelings are real

00:13:13and it's not fair.

00:13:19OK.

00:13:22But if this is your...

00:13:23If day one of trying to prove yourself excellent...

00:13:34This is it?

00:13:40I guess so.

00:13:42Jesus Christ.

00:13:44I knew it.

00:13:45I knew he was lying to me last night.

00:13:47I knew it.

00:13:48Don't pull me aside

00:13:50and tell me you're going to show up for me

00:13:51if you can't even get through the first morning.

00:13:54I'm going to take all this shit.

00:13:56Up until a couple of days ago,

00:13:58I had a husband and a positive outlook on the future

00:14:01with a man who doesn't like me enough

00:14:04to compliment me or initiate affection.

00:14:08He it up.

00:14:10He did.

00:14:11Oh, fuck.

00:14:12Honestly.

00:14:13And the fact he can even come in

00:14:15and even cast any problems onto me

00:14:18is f***ing laughable.

00:14:20My bedroom.

00:14:26He should be ashamed of himself.

00:14:28I'm not f***ing lying to say tonight.

00:14:34There is no chance.

00:14:36He's an absolute f***ing liar.

00:14:39We are now a team of three.

00:14:41Understood?

00:14:44I don't need that f***ing psycho.

00:14:46Greetings, gents.

00:15:05Hello, guys.

00:15:06Hello, guys.

00:15:08Hello.

00:15:08How are you going?

00:15:09Grab a seat.

00:15:10Oh, greetings, ladies.

00:15:21Come and join us.

00:15:22Hi, ladies.

00:15:23Welcome, everybody,

00:15:39to the second last commitment ceremony

00:15:42of this experiment.

00:15:44You've come off a huge week,

00:15:47feedback week,

00:15:47where we created new pairings

00:15:50so that you could get a different perspective

00:15:52on your relationship

00:15:53from people that had watched you

00:15:55and got to know you.

00:15:58And this is a very important part

00:15:59of the experiment

00:16:00because it allows you

00:16:01to widen your perspective.

00:16:04And certainly,

00:16:05it has landed for some couples.

00:16:08Now, what became clear to us last night

00:16:11while we were watching the dinner party

00:16:12is that a number of you

00:16:14have not been open and honest with us

00:16:18at previous commitment ceremonies.

00:16:22So what we ask of you tonight

00:16:24is open up

00:16:27and let us in.

00:16:34Our first couple up on the couch is...

00:16:40Afina and Adrian.

00:16:41Hello, you two.

00:16:49Hey, how you going?

00:16:50Hello.

00:16:51Well, we're more interested

00:16:52in how you're going.

00:16:53Do you want to start?

00:16:54No, you can start.

00:16:55I'll start.

00:16:56Um, we're going good.

00:16:58Last week,

00:16:59we discussed our honesty letter.

00:17:01Letters, essentially...

00:17:02Mm-hmm.

00:17:02Our letters were exactly the same.

00:17:04They just looked a little bit different.

00:17:06In a weird way,

00:17:07we both got disconnected.

00:17:08When we pinpointed

00:17:11where the disconnect came from,

00:17:13for me,

00:17:13that was a pivotal moment

00:17:14in our relationship.

00:17:16We've recognised

00:17:17that we stopped asking questions.

00:17:19So now it's asking questions

00:17:21and meaning it.

00:17:23We'd both been curious

00:17:24about each other again.

00:17:26I did like that we'd both

00:17:27written similar things

00:17:29in our letters.

00:17:30It sounds like this letter writing

00:17:32helped you both arrive

00:17:33at the same point,

00:17:35this acknowledgement

00:17:35that there's been

00:17:36a bit of a disconnection.

00:17:38Yeah.

00:17:39It wasn't just a task

00:17:40that we had.

00:17:41After a time apart,

00:17:42I did realise

00:17:43that, you know,

00:17:44I do care for Athena.

00:17:46And, yeah,

00:17:47I feel like we're progressing.

00:17:51So how do you now

00:17:52keep the walls down?

00:17:53Well, we're going

00:17:54to couples massage tomorrow.

00:17:55That'll be a fun time.

00:17:56Right?

00:17:56Then maybe we have to

00:17:57take some tips

00:17:58and do it properly.

00:18:00Go away, Adrian,

00:18:01you dirty dog.

00:18:02Well, it sounds like

00:18:03you've reached

00:18:04a bit of a turning point.

00:18:05Yeah, I think

00:18:05the most important thing

00:18:06is it feels easy again.

00:18:07It feels like we're

00:18:08actually enjoying

00:18:09each other's company.

00:18:11I think we're going

00:18:11to go to a decision.

00:18:13It's an easy one.

00:18:15Stay.

00:18:16Brilliant.

00:18:19And Athena.

00:18:21Yeah, I think

00:18:21everyone knows

00:18:22it was an easy one this week.

00:18:24What a hard fall.

00:18:24Yay!

00:18:26Well done, guys.

00:18:27We're so delighted

00:18:28that you've reached

00:18:29this point.

00:18:30Now, stay curious.

00:18:31Ask those questions

00:18:32and allow each other

00:18:34to keep getting closer.

00:18:35100%.

00:18:35Yeah, and get sweaty tomorrow.

00:18:37Do it.

00:18:43Good job, guys.

00:18:49Our next couple

00:18:50up on the couch.

00:18:54Veronica and Elliot.

00:19:02Hello.

00:19:02How are we doing?

00:19:03Hi.

00:19:04Hi.

00:19:09Well, where to start

00:19:10with you two?

00:19:17Elliot, why don't we

00:19:17start with you?

00:19:18We just seem to have

00:19:21this pattern

00:19:22with how we communicate

00:19:23where we don't see eye to eye

00:19:25at all.

00:19:27It's pretty combative

00:19:28and it just follows

00:19:30the same trajectory

00:19:31no matter what.

00:19:32Where we disagree,

00:19:34it seems to escalate

00:19:35and then she leaves

00:19:37and then that's

00:19:38where it's left.

00:19:40Hmm.

00:19:42Veronica,

00:19:42how would you describe

00:19:43the way you guys

00:19:44communicate?

00:19:47I feel like

00:19:48when I,

00:19:50when we talk,

00:19:52he sort of

00:19:53will take jabs at me,

00:19:55he's kind of baiting me.

00:19:57He'll make comments to me like,

00:19:58oh, you think you're

00:19:59pretty smart,

00:20:00don't you?

00:20:02I'm just shut down

00:20:05almost immediately.

00:20:09You know,

00:20:10I'll say,

00:20:10you said that

00:20:12the thing was red

00:20:13but it's blue,

00:20:15like for example.

00:20:16And then instead

00:20:16of talking about

00:20:17the fact that

00:20:18the thing is blue,

00:20:20we go on this

00:20:21whole tangent

00:20:22about how my emotions

00:20:23are out of control

00:20:24and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:20:26And we talk about

00:20:27literally nothing.

00:20:29And I'm like,

00:20:30by the end of it,

00:20:31I've literally

00:20:31lost my mind.

00:20:34I'm like,

00:20:35I don't know

00:20:36what's going on here.

00:20:37Like.

00:20:40I'm like,

00:20:41goodbye.

00:20:42I'm leaving the room.

00:20:43And I've just got to go.

00:20:44Like,

00:20:45I've got to go

00:20:45because no matter

00:20:46how many times I say,

00:20:47how do we resolve it?

00:20:49What do you need from me?

00:20:50What can I do?

00:20:51It doesn't end well for me.

00:20:55And I feel

00:20:56completely blindsided

00:20:57by this like,

00:20:57oh, amazing,

00:20:58beautiful persona

00:20:59you're putting on

00:21:00with the whole group.

00:21:01I'm like,

00:21:01look at this man.

00:21:02Who is this?

00:21:08Elliot,

00:21:08as I'm watching

00:21:09you listen

00:21:11to Veronica's

00:21:12story here,

00:21:13you're pulling

00:21:14a lot of faces.

00:21:14The story's a good way

00:21:15to put it.

00:21:18Do you believe

00:21:19that you

00:21:20have been baiting her,

00:21:21have been

00:21:22insulting her?

00:21:23There's just so many

00:21:25things just now

00:21:25that she said

00:21:26that are just

00:21:26blatant lies.

00:21:28Like,

00:21:28I've categorically

00:21:30never said to you,

00:21:31you think you're

00:21:32pretty smart.

00:21:33Like,

00:21:34for you to say that.

00:21:36Like,

00:21:36this is what I'm

00:21:37talking about.

00:21:38It's on camera.

00:21:38Yeah, I know.

00:21:39That's why.

00:21:40That's why I'm confident

00:21:41to say that I didn't say it.

00:21:42Oh, my God.

00:21:44This is so wild.

00:21:45For you to just say that,

00:21:51oh, you think

00:21:52you're pretty smart,

00:21:53to me is wild.

00:21:54Like,

00:21:54I know exactly

00:21:55what I say.

00:21:57So,

00:21:57for you to say

00:21:57that I bait you,

00:21:59it's just like,

00:22:01you're clearly

00:22:02the one that's

00:22:03doing the baiting.

00:22:04What?

00:22:06Why would I lie

00:22:07about that?

00:22:08There's a lot of things

00:22:09that make me

00:22:10ask that question.

00:22:12Is it surprising

00:22:13to you

00:22:14that when we talk

00:22:15in public

00:22:16that people do

00:22:18tend to see

00:22:19my side of things?

00:22:20I'm not asking

00:22:21for anyone else's

00:22:22opinion on my relationship.

00:22:23Well, sometimes

00:22:23it's worth it

00:22:24if we're disagreeing

00:22:25on something

00:22:26to get some sort

00:22:28of objective truth.

00:22:29Because you say

00:22:30one thing,

00:22:30I say another.

00:22:32People see

00:22:32the whole story.

00:22:37Well,

00:22:38what do people see?

00:22:41After we got to know

00:22:42you at the retreat,

00:22:43I actually quite like you.

00:22:45You're this cool chick

00:22:46and everyone,

00:22:46I think,

00:22:47can validate that as well.

00:22:49But then you come here,

00:22:50you sit at a dinner party

00:22:51and you sit on that chair

00:22:52and you're a totally

00:22:52different person.

00:22:54And you say things

00:22:55and you're like,

00:22:55everyone,

00:22:56what are you saying?

00:22:57It's not making sense

00:22:57to us

00:22:58and I'm sure

00:22:58it's not making sense

00:22:59to Elliot.

00:23:01So it's like,

00:23:01we actually don't know you.

00:23:04This is why

00:23:04no one can believe

00:23:05a word you're saying.

00:23:05Rie,

00:23:11you were with Elliot

00:23:12this week.

00:23:13What was your experience

00:23:15like with him?

00:23:17Yeah,

00:23:18look,

00:23:18Elliot and I,

00:23:19well,

00:23:19we actually hadn't said

00:23:20more than,

00:23:21hi,

00:23:21how are you,

00:23:22I think.

00:23:23So I felt like

00:23:24I was getting to know

00:23:24Elliot from scratch.

00:23:27In saying that,

00:23:27Veronica and I

00:23:28have been friends

00:23:29throughout this entire experiment,

00:23:30so I've obviously,

00:23:31I know Veronica's views

00:23:33on everything.

00:23:35But,

00:23:36yeah,

00:23:37look,

00:23:37I had a great time

00:23:38with Elliot.

00:23:41He bought me fruit

00:23:43because he knows

00:23:44I'm into health and fitness.

00:23:45He taught me a card game

00:23:46which I was very bad at

00:23:48for quite some time

00:23:49and finally got good at it.

00:23:51She beat me in the end.

00:23:53I did,

00:23:54the third round.

00:23:56We listened to music,

00:23:57we got to know each other.

00:23:59It was an easy three days

00:24:01and I enjoyed them.

00:24:03Sounds good,

00:24:08those three days.

00:24:09It's never taught me

00:24:10any card games.

00:24:13I've offered to play cards

00:24:15with you multiple times.

00:24:18Like,

00:24:18you know that I'm into games

00:24:19and stuff.

00:24:20You have never

00:24:21asked me if I want

00:24:22to play card games.

00:24:25Okay.

00:24:26That's,

00:24:26that's weird

00:24:27that I've suddenly

00:24:27started liking card games

00:24:29when Rie came around.

00:24:30I don't,

00:24:31we've never had this conversation

00:24:32about you liking card games.

00:24:34The whole retreat,

00:24:35I was playing chess and

00:24:37Connect Four,

00:24:38I played with everybody.

00:24:40That's why it's hard

00:24:40to believe you,

00:24:41V.

00:24:44Why wouldn't you offer

00:24:45to play with me

00:24:46in the house?

00:24:47I have,

00:24:47I'm saying that I have.

00:24:48You've not done that

00:24:49in the house.

00:24:50Jeez.

00:24:51It's,

00:24:52this is what,

00:24:52like,

00:24:53it just takes me

00:24:54completely by surprise.

00:24:55Have you wanted

00:24:56to play with him?

00:24:57Yeah,

00:24:57have you given him

00:24:58the chance?

00:24:59Have you been there

00:25:00long enough?

00:25:03Where's the truth?

00:25:08I've just spent

00:25:09the last several minutes

00:25:11hearing all sorts

00:25:13of back and forth.

00:25:15Frankly,

00:25:16I've got no idea

00:25:17what the hell

00:25:18is going on.

00:25:19but what I do know

00:25:23is that somebody

00:25:25over there

00:25:27is lying.

00:25:43What I do know

00:25:45is that somebody

00:25:47over there

00:25:50is lying.

00:25:55Someone

00:25:55is not telling

00:25:56the truth.

00:25:59It's like

00:26:00the two of you

00:26:00are living

00:26:01in different realities.

00:26:03Mm.

00:26:04Because one person

00:26:05says it's black

00:26:06and the other one

00:26:07says it's white.

00:26:08Yeah.

00:26:09And I'm sure

00:26:09the group finds

00:26:10this the same as well.

00:26:13One says it's black,

00:26:13one says it's a microwave.

00:26:16That is

00:26:17essentially

00:26:18the only

00:26:18consistent thing

00:26:19about the two of you.

00:26:21That you disagree

00:26:22a lot.

00:26:26What I've noticed

00:26:28with you two

00:26:28is that particularly

00:26:29Veronica

00:26:30when you're addressing

00:26:30Elliot,

00:26:32there seems

00:26:33to be a disdain

00:26:34in your voice.

00:26:35Like,

00:26:36the respect is gone.

00:26:37in life,

00:26:41I just

00:26:41say it

00:26:43how it is

00:26:43and

00:26:44I'm blunt.

00:26:48I just

00:26:49got to say,

00:26:49like,

00:26:50ever since that

00:26:50first dinner party,

00:26:52it's felt like

00:26:53she hates my guts

00:26:54with little moments

00:26:57where of kindness

00:26:59in between.

00:27:00Hates your guts.

00:27:01Hates my guts.

00:27:04That's a very

00:27:05strong thing to say.

00:27:06Yeah.

00:27:06It's the tone or what she...

00:27:07The tone,

00:27:08the content

00:27:09of what she says.

00:27:11Everything aligns

00:27:12perfectly

00:27:13to be something

00:27:14that someone

00:27:15that wouldn't like me

00:27:16would say.

00:27:18I mean,

00:27:19I've got to ask you,

00:27:20Veronica,

00:27:20do you

00:27:21hate his guts?

00:27:25No.

00:27:28No one else

00:27:29talks to me like that.

00:27:30People that

00:27:30literally screamed

00:27:32at me across the table

00:27:32at the first dinner party,

00:27:34I'm like,

00:27:35mates with.

00:27:37I can extend

00:27:37the longest olive branch

00:27:38and it's not enough.

00:27:40It's impossible

00:27:41to try to reconcile

00:27:42with you.

00:27:43It's...

00:27:43It's exhausting.

00:27:48Um,

00:27:49I don't hate you.

00:27:50Despite what you

00:27:53might think.

00:27:55And I really did try.

00:27:57So I'm sorry

00:27:58that you feel that way.

00:28:02Um,

00:28:03yeah,

00:28:04that felt

00:28:05like you did hate me

00:28:06with the way

00:28:06you said that.

00:28:10Yeah.

00:28:13Alright,

00:28:13let's go to the decision.

00:28:14Stay or Lee?

00:28:15And we're going to go

00:28:16with you first,

00:28:18Elliot.

00:28:18We tried to make it work

00:28:21and I feel like

00:28:22it really didn't.

00:28:24So,

00:28:24um,

00:28:25I've written

00:28:26leave,

00:28:28um,

00:28:29but I feel like

00:28:32I can leave

00:28:33knowing that

00:28:33I really did

00:28:34give it my best shot.

00:28:35Veronica,

00:28:39for you.

00:28:43I can't believe

00:28:44that it's taken

00:28:46this point

00:28:46for us to

00:28:47come up with

00:28:48something that

00:28:48we actually agree on.

00:28:49Mmm.

00:28:50Um,

00:28:53yeah,

00:28:53look,

00:28:54we're very

00:28:54different people

00:28:55and I don't think

00:28:56that there was

00:28:57really

00:28:58hope for this

00:29:00eventual eating

00:29:01into anything more.

00:29:02So,

00:29:03yeah,

00:29:03I've written

00:29:03leave.

00:29:10Well,

00:29:10when two people

00:29:11say leave,

00:29:12obviously that means

00:29:13it's pretty much

00:29:15done and dusted.

00:29:16We've loved

00:29:17having you

00:29:18in this experiment.

00:29:19It was different.

00:29:22And look,

00:29:23one thing that

00:29:24I wanted to say

00:29:26to you,

00:29:26Elliot,

00:29:26was that,

00:29:27uh,

00:29:28you know,

00:29:28when we first met,

00:29:30it didn't work out

00:29:31with Lauren

00:29:31and you and I

00:29:32had a sit down.

00:29:34Yeah.

00:29:34It was pretty tense,

00:29:35pretty combative.

00:29:36It was not too bad.

00:29:37But it needed to happen.

00:29:38Yeah, yeah.

00:29:39And when we

00:29:40invited you back,

00:29:42we had

00:29:42our concerns.

00:29:43Is this

00:29:44a guy

00:29:45that could

00:29:46learn?

00:29:48Could he pivot?

00:29:49Could he break patterns?

00:29:51We weren't sure.

00:29:53But I want to commend you

00:29:55for coming in

00:29:57a second time,

00:29:59facing the music,

00:30:00because they were

00:30:01not in your corner.

00:30:05Now,

00:30:05the fact that you

00:30:06didn't work out

00:30:07with Veronica,

00:30:09that's relationships.

00:30:11But what we wanted

00:30:12to see

00:30:12was a different

00:30:14Elliot.

00:30:15and we

00:30:16are thrilled

00:30:17at the progress

00:30:18and the self-development.

00:30:22Those are really kind words.

00:30:23Just finally,

00:30:24what do you take away

00:30:25from this experiment?

00:30:27Um,

00:30:28you can never

00:30:31judge a book

00:30:31by its cover.

00:30:33Like,

00:30:33it takes time

00:30:34to really

00:30:35see all sides

00:30:36of a person.

00:30:37and so you,

00:30:38you can't

00:30:39have too many

00:30:40preferences.

00:30:41My goodness,

00:30:42I never thought

00:30:42I'd ever hear you

00:30:43say that,

00:30:44Elliot.

00:30:45That is a breakthrough.

00:30:47It is,

00:30:47yep.

00:30:48And for you too,

00:30:49you've got a chance

00:30:50to do it differently

00:30:50in the future.

00:30:52So good luck

00:30:52with that.

00:30:54You can go back

00:30:55to the group.

00:31:00All right,

00:31:00our next couple

00:31:02up on the couch.

00:31:06Jackie and Ryan.

00:31:07This will be good.

00:31:14Here they come.

00:31:15Hello.

00:31:16How are we?

00:31:17You're good.

00:31:18Sit down.

00:31:20Oof.

00:31:22Hi.

00:31:23I think we're

00:31:24going to get

00:31:24straight into this.

00:31:27Feedback week.

00:31:28Ryan,

00:31:28how did it land

00:31:29for you?

00:31:30And did it change

00:31:32your view

00:31:32of the relationship?

00:31:33Or did you learn

00:31:34anything new?

00:31:37The feedback letter

00:31:40that Jackie wrote

00:31:41for me,

00:31:42it's definitely

00:31:43aspects of that letter

00:31:44that I need to take

00:31:45on board

00:31:45and I'm willing

00:31:46to do so.

00:31:49So on the other

00:31:50side of that,

00:31:51it was a bit

00:31:52of a character

00:31:52assassination.

00:31:54I actually felt

00:31:55kind of on trial

00:31:56for being myself.

00:31:59I did feel

00:32:00quite attacked

00:32:01by her.

00:32:03She brought

00:32:04up a lot

00:32:05of things

00:32:06like masculinity

00:32:06about ego,

00:32:08about gender roles.

00:32:10Sometimes I feel

00:32:11like we're

00:32:11in a bit of

00:32:12a university

00:32:14debate.

00:32:16Like,

00:32:17she came back

00:32:17in after the

00:32:18task and said,

00:32:20Ryan,

00:32:20how do you feel

00:32:22about being

00:32:22a stay-at-home dad?

00:32:26And...

00:32:27His response

00:32:28was,

00:32:29I am

00:32:30offended

00:32:31that you

00:32:32haven't even

00:32:33asked the question.

00:32:34No, no.

00:32:35You were offended

00:32:38I asked the question

00:32:40about how you feel

00:32:41about it.

00:32:43I'm sorry,

00:32:44but I just don't...

00:32:45I don't want that

00:32:46because I've got so many

00:32:48other important things

00:32:49that I want to do

00:32:50with my life.

00:32:51I feel like

00:32:55because Ryan

00:32:56has closed off

00:32:57on certain issues

00:32:58like parenting

00:33:00and his goals

00:33:02and dreams

00:33:02and ambitions,

00:33:04there's no room

00:33:05for me

00:33:06because I need

00:33:08equal opportunity

00:33:09in my relationship.

00:33:10If I get an opportunity

00:33:11where I can go to New York

00:33:12for six months

00:33:13and work,

00:33:14I want to be able

00:33:15to take that opportunity.

00:33:16If I'm in a coma...

00:33:18I need to know

00:33:22that my husband's

00:33:23going to step up

00:33:23to the plate.

00:33:29His way of thinking

00:33:30is like,

00:33:31it's my way.

00:33:32And on every single thing

00:33:34we have an issue,

00:33:36like everything.

00:33:37It started with

00:33:38the temperature,

00:33:39the couch,

00:33:40what we're eating

00:33:41for dinner.

00:33:42Jackie!

00:33:43And now it's become

00:33:46like parenting.

00:33:49It's like his way

00:33:50and then I have to fight

00:33:51for my needs

00:33:52to be considered.

00:33:53That is not true at all.

00:33:54It is though.

00:33:54I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

00:33:55I'm talking from the heart

00:33:56and things that

00:33:57are important to me

00:33:58and I feel like

00:33:59I'm trapped

00:34:00and I've got no way out.

00:34:01I just feel like

00:34:02you're not hearing me.

00:34:04Pressure on me

00:34:05to do something

00:34:06that I don't want to do.

00:34:06No, you don't have

00:34:06to do anything.

00:34:07You just have to be

00:34:08open to considering.

00:34:10Being a stay-at-home dad.

00:34:11I cannot be

00:34:13with someone

00:34:14who won't support me.

00:34:15It's a non-negotiable.

00:34:19This is an absolute

00:34:20deal-breaker for me.

00:34:31Pressure on me

00:34:32to do something

00:34:32that I don't want to do.

00:34:33No, you don't have

00:34:33to do anything.

00:34:34You just have to be

00:34:35open to considering.

00:34:36Being a stay-at-home dad.

00:34:38I cannot be

00:34:39with someone

00:34:40who won't support me.

00:34:41It's a non-negotiable.

00:34:43This is an absolute

00:34:44deal-breaker for me.

00:34:50Ryan, I get it.

00:34:51Having an openness

00:34:52to where your life,

00:34:54you know,

00:34:54could potentially take you

00:34:56is I think

00:34:57what Jackie's asking

00:34:58for here.

00:34:59Not for you to say,

00:35:01right now,

00:35:01I'm going to give up

00:35:02my career

00:35:02and be the stay-at-home dad.

00:35:04But I think

00:35:05she just needs to hear

00:35:06that you have

00:35:07some flexibility

00:35:08and thought

00:35:08and some openness

00:35:09to maybe

00:35:10do things

00:35:11a little differently.

00:35:13Okay.

00:35:14Yep.

00:35:14I fully understand

00:35:15what you mean.

00:35:16Yes, I will

00:35:17definitely give it

00:35:18more consideration

00:35:19because I want you

00:35:20to feel as if

00:35:22I am taking this seriously.

00:35:24Yeah.

00:35:26I raise these things

00:35:29because I want us

00:35:30to work out.

00:35:31I want to give you,

00:35:32give us the opportunity

00:35:33to work through these issues

00:35:34because a lot of them

00:35:35are really important to me

00:35:37or they're going

00:35:37to be deal-breakers.

00:35:40Feedback's a gift.

00:35:43I so wholeheartedly

00:35:44believe that.

00:35:46And my letter

00:35:47was full of,

00:35:48like, you know,

00:35:49it was like,

00:35:50you know,

00:35:51a bit negative.

00:35:51Can I be honest

00:35:52about something?

00:35:52But every line

00:35:53I had the solution

00:35:54under it.

00:35:56Things that you bring up

00:35:57sometimes I feel

00:35:59are judgmental.

00:36:02With the letter,

00:36:03I did feel like

00:36:04it was reducing

00:36:05my character.

00:36:06That was the energy

00:36:06I got from it.

00:36:08Sometimes I do feel

00:36:09on trial for being myself.

00:36:11You know,

00:36:12you came into this saying

00:36:13you had huge expectations,

00:36:14you got very high standards.

00:36:15I feel inadequate sometimes.

00:36:19I feel like

00:36:19I don't measure up.

00:36:26like sometimes

00:36:33my mannerisms,

00:36:33sometimes

00:36:34my ways of thinking

00:36:35just don't...

00:36:36I do like

00:36:50this

00:36:51side

00:36:52of Ryan

00:36:53and tonight

00:36:55he's actually

00:36:56been quite vulnerable

00:36:57with his feelings

00:36:58in a way

00:36:59which probably

00:37:00we haven't quite

00:37:01heard

00:37:02before.

00:37:02I guess what

00:37:06I wanted to say

00:37:07to you Jack

00:37:07is that

00:37:08if your man

00:37:11is saying

00:37:11at times

00:37:12I feel like

00:37:13I don't measure up

00:37:13it's very important

00:37:15to hear that.

00:37:18Actually,

00:37:18you know what?

00:37:19She did make

00:37:19a good point

00:37:20in her letter.

00:37:20She said

00:37:21there's strength

00:37:21in vulnerability.

00:37:22Ah.

00:37:24That's one thing

00:37:24that rang true

00:37:25for me as well

00:37:26because I do struggle

00:37:27with that.

00:37:27you know?

00:37:28Yeah.

00:37:30I've had to be

00:37:30the self-serving

00:37:31really tough exterior

00:37:33just manage

00:37:36everything on my own

00:37:36from the finances

00:37:37and the career

00:37:38believe it or not

00:37:39all the way

00:37:39to like

00:37:39adopting a dog

00:37:41and just

00:37:41building my own

00:37:42life.

00:37:45Yeah,

00:37:46like I do struggle

00:37:47with it.

00:37:47I do.

00:37:50I am very aware

00:37:51I do have

00:37:51very high standards

00:37:52like I've said

00:37:53that right from

00:37:53the beginning

00:37:53and literally

00:37:55I feel like

00:37:55this man

00:37:57who is

00:37:57a completely

00:37:58different man

00:37:59today

00:37:59than the man

00:38:00who I married

00:38:01on day one.

00:38:02Like he is

00:38:03Mr. Bachelor

00:38:03right now.

00:38:05He's cooking me

00:38:06eggs now

00:38:06because he heard

00:38:07Jeff cook me

00:38:08eggs.

00:38:08Like he's actually

00:38:09like...

00:38:10God sakes,

00:38:12Jeff.

00:38:12He's like...

00:38:13I've got to

00:38:14take a page

00:38:14where it's true.

00:38:15The point is

00:38:16I am...

00:38:17I'm learning

00:38:17how to show up

00:38:18more and

00:38:18I'm taking

00:38:19feedback.

00:38:22Alright,

00:38:23we're going

00:38:23to go to

00:38:23the decision.

00:38:24Let's start

00:38:24with you,

00:38:25Jackie.

00:38:25I've said

00:38:26stay

00:38:27because I

00:38:27do think

00:38:28that Ryan

00:38:28will show

00:38:28up for me

00:38:29and I'll

00:38:29be showing

00:38:30up for him

00:38:30as well

00:38:31when he's

00:38:31gone

00:38:31for stay.

00:38:32Good.

00:38:32Good, good, good.

00:38:36Ryan,

00:38:36for you,

00:38:37stay or leave?

00:38:40That letter

00:38:40just kind of

00:38:42knocked me

00:38:42for six.

00:38:43It did.

00:38:43And then I was

00:38:44wondering like

00:38:44why would I

00:38:45want to be

00:38:46with someone

00:38:46who has

00:38:47those distorted

00:38:47views of me?

00:38:50But we

00:38:51were able

00:38:51to process

00:38:52things.

00:38:54So,

00:38:55let's see

00:38:56if that

00:38:57continues.

00:38:57Good,

00:38:58good, good,

00:38:59good.

00:39:03I like it.

00:39:04I like the

00:39:04vulnerability.

00:39:05I like you

00:39:05having what are

00:39:07very important

00:39:08conversations.

00:39:10Good stuff,

00:39:11guys.

00:39:11Off you go.

00:39:12Thank you so much.

00:39:13Well done,

00:39:14guys.

00:39:17Our next

00:39:18couple up

00:39:19on the couch,

00:39:24Beth and

00:39:24TJ.

00:39:29Hey,

00:39:30you two.

00:39:30How are you

00:39:31going?

00:39:33Well,

00:39:33we're doing

00:39:34well,

00:39:34but we're

00:39:34very curious

00:39:35about how

00:39:35you guys

00:39:36are going.

00:39:37Um,

00:39:39um,

00:39:40yeah.

00:39:40We

00:39:40obviously

00:39:43did the

00:39:43partner swap

00:39:44and we

00:39:45did the

00:39:45letter.

00:39:48Since

00:39:48that letter,

00:39:49I

00:39:50shared that

00:39:52I felt

00:39:52the reason

00:39:53maybe me

00:39:54and TJ

00:39:54aren't intimate

00:39:55yet is

00:39:56because maybe

00:39:56he's not

00:39:57attracted to

00:39:58me like

00:39:58I am to

00:39:58him.

00:40:01It's not

00:40:02something I'd

00:40:03shared with

00:40:04him yet

00:40:04because I

00:40:05felt too

00:40:05embarrassed

00:40:05to ask

00:40:06that question

00:40:06in case

00:40:09I didn't

00:40:09like the

00:40:10answer.

00:40:10I

00:40:12think I

00:40:13told myself

00:40:13from the

00:40:14get-go

00:40:15that maybe

00:40:17I wouldn't

00:40:18be good

00:40:18enough for

00:40:18TJ.

00:40:21And then

00:40:22because the

00:40:22intimacy is

00:40:23lacking,

00:40:24I instantly

00:40:25blame myself

00:40:25and think

00:40:26maybe it's

00:40:27because I'm

00:40:27not attractive

00:40:28enough that

00:40:29he doesn't

00:40:29want to do

00:40:30those things.

00:40:32Can I

00:40:33just check

00:40:33that I'm

00:40:34on the

00:40:34right track

00:40:35here?

00:40:35So you

00:40:36were in

00:40:36a sexual

00:40:37relationship

00:40:37and then

00:40:38that's now

00:40:39off the

00:40:39table?

00:40:40Labeling

00:40:40it as

00:40:41a sexual

00:40:41relationship

00:40:42probably

00:40:42isn't the

00:40:43right

00:40:44terminology

00:40:44for it.

00:40:45We were

00:40:45intimate

00:40:45once and

00:40:46then...

00:40:47So you

00:40:47had sex

00:40:47and you

00:40:48haven't

00:40:49had it

00:40:49since?

00:40:49Correct,

00:40:50yeah.

00:40:50Right.

00:40:51Why would

00:40:52you say,

00:40:52TJ,

00:40:52that sexual

00:40:53intimacy

00:40:54and physical

00:40:55intimacy

00:40:55hasn't

00:40:56progressed

00:40:56for you

00:40:56too?

00:40:57I genuinely

00:40:57believe it's

00:40:58an emotional

00:40:58connection

00:40:59thing.

00:41:00I didn't

00:41:00want this

00:41:01relationship

00:41:01to feel

00:41:01like it

00:41:01was just

00:41:02a sexual

00:41:03based

00:41:03relationship.

00:41:04In the

00:41:05past,

00:41:05I probably

00:41:05have rushed

00:41:06intimate

00:41:07connections

00:41:07and neglected

00:41:08the emotional

00:41:08and that's

00:41:09probably why

00:41:09I haven't

00:41:10had a

00:41:10successful

00:41:10relationship

00:41:11in the

00:41:11past.

00:41:12That's

00:41:13really what

00:41:13I want

00:41:14to focus

00:41:14on is

00:41:14building

00:41:15that

00:41:15connection.

00:41:16I really

00:41:16want to

00:41:17have

00:41:17our

00:41:18souls

00:41:18intertwining

00:41:18before moving

00:41:20back into

00:41:21the intimate

00:41:21side of

00:41:21things.

00:41:23Beth,

00:41:24I wonder,

00:41:24do you feel

00:41:25that you

00:41:26need your

00:41:26souls

00:41:26intertwined

00:41:27in order

00:41:28to have

00:41:29sex with

00:41:29one another?

00:41:32For me,

00:41:33no.

00:41:34To have

00:41:35an actual

00:41:35lasting

00:41:35relationship,

00:41:36absolutely.

00:41:38I did

00:41:39not come

00:41:39here just

00:41:41to sleep

00:41:41with

00:41:41someone.

00:41:42I came

00:41:43here from

00:41:43a relationship.

00:41:44I want

00:41:44a deeper

00:41:45connection

00:41:45because that

00:41:46intimacy does

00:41:46feel so much

00:41:47better with

00:41:47someone when

00:41:48you have

00:41:49those

00:41:49feelings.

00:41:51TJ,

00:41:53where are

00:41:53your feelings

00:41:54at at the

00:41:55moment towards

00:41:56Beth?

00:41:57I thoroughly

00:41:58enjoy my time

00:41:58with Beth.

00:41:59We get along

00:41:59so well and

00:42:00it's awesome.

00:42:01I feel so

00:42:02light when I'm

00:42:03around her.

00:42:03We're always

00:42:03laughing,

00:42:04always smiling.

00:42:04And I

00:42:05thought that

00:42:05Beth and I

00:42:06were on the

00:42:06same page

00:42:07about where

00:42:07we were

00:42:07at.

00:42:08But when

00:42:09she mentioned

00:42:10that she

00:42:10didn't think

00:42:11that I was

00:42:11still physically

00:42:11attracted to

00:42:12her,

00:42:12I feel like

00:42:13maybe we

00:42:14weren't on

00:42:14the same

00:42:14page.

00:42:18Well,

00:42:18are you?

00:42:19Am I

00:42:19physically

00:42:20attracted to

00:42:20Beth?

00:42:20Absolutely.

00:42:21Absolutely.

00:42:24Did you do

00:42:25anything during

00:42:26the week,

00:42:26TJ,

00:42:27to show her

00:42:27that you

00:42:28desired her?

00:42:29Probably not

00:42:30from a,

00:42:31like I didn't

00:42:32try and

00:42:33initiate anything

00:42:34in bed or

00:42:34anything like

00:42:35that.

00:42:35It doesn't

00:42:35have to be

00:42:36in bed.

00:42:37Yeah.

00:42:38But for her

00:42:39to feel

00:42:39desired,

00:42:40it's not

00:42:40just here's

00:42:41a nice

00:42:41cup of

00:42:42coffee.

00:42:43Are you

00:42:44making out?

00:42:46I wouldn't

00:42:46say we're

00:42:47making out,

00:42:47we kiss.

00:42:48I'm not

00:42:48often sticking

00:42:49my tongue

00:42:49down.

00:42:49That's right.

00:42:50Maybe make

00:42:50out.

00:42:50It's very

00:42:51high school.

00:42:52No,

00:42:52it's not

00:42:53even.

00:42:53I mean,

00:42:54I'm not

00:42:54talking about

00:42:55necessarily going

00:42:57all out with

00:42:57the whips and

00:42:58chains.

00:42:58Of course.

00:42:59But there

00:42:59is something

00:43:00where she

00:43:00feels,

00:43:01oh,

00:43:01he likes

00:43:02me.

00:43:04Yeah.

00:43:05All right,

00:43:06well,

00:43:06we're going

00:43:06to go to

00:43:06a decision,

00:43:07you guys.

00:43:08We're going

00:43:09to start

00:43:09with you,

00:43:10Beth.

00:43:12I'm not

00:43:13done yet,

00:43:13so I'm

00:43:13staying.

00:43:14Excellent.

00:43:17And to

00:43:18you,

00:43:18TJ.

00:43:19I do

00:43:19want to

00:43:20keep learning

00:43:20more about

00:43:20you and

00:43:21I want

00:43:21to keep

00:43:21learning

00:43:21more

00:43:21about

00:43:22us

00:43:22and

00:43:22where

00:43:22we

00:43:22can

00:43:22go,

00:43:22so I

00:43:23wrote

00:43:23the same

00:43:25word

00:43:25today.

00:43:25Brilliant.

00:43:27Good stuff.

00:43:28Thanks, guys.

00:43:30Thanks.

00:43:33I feel good

00:43:34after that couch

00:43:34session.

00:43:35He said he's

00:43:36attracted to me

00:43:36and I know it

00:43:37sounds stupid,

00:43:38but I guess it was

00:43:38just the validation

00:43:39that I needed.

00:43:39I've been beating

00:43:41myself up about

00:43:41it and feeling

00:43:42really bad.

00:43:43At the end

00:43:43of the day,

00:43:44this is new

00:43:44for me.

00:43:45I've never

00:43:45had a boyfriend

00:43:46before,

00:43:46ever.

00:43:47This is all

00:43:47new and I

00:43:48need to give

00:43:48myself a

00:43:49break.

00:43:53Next.

00:43:53There seems

00:43:54to be a

00:43:55sensitivity chip

00:43:56missing.

00:43:56Paul crosses

00:43:57the line.

00:43:59Paul,

00:44:00you're really

00:44:00missing the

00:44:01point and

00:44:02you're lacking

00:44:02emotional

00:44:03intelligence.

00:44:05And later.

00:44:06I feel like

00:44:07the person I've

00:44:07fallen in love

00:44:08with doesn't

00:44:09exist.

00:44:09Is it the

00:44:10end of the

00:44:10road for

00:44:11Jamie and

00:44:12Dave?

00:44:13I need to

00:44:13know how

00:44:14the hell

00:44:14you're going

00:44:15to convince

00:44:15me that this

00:44:16hasn't been

00:44:16a fake

00:44:17relationship.

00:44:29Our next

00:44:30couple up

00:44:30on the

00:44:31couch.

00:44:35Rhi and

00:44:36Jeff.

00:44:38How are you

00:44:49guys after

00:44:50feedback week?

00:44:52Not too bad.

00:44:53The partner

00:44:53swap was okay.

00:44:54I feel like

00:44:55Elliot and I

00:44:56had a great

00:44:56time.

00:44:58But it just

00:44:59made me realise

00:45:00how great we

00:45:01do have it.

00:45:03Yeah, I agree

00:45:04with that.

00:45:04I had a good

00:45:06time with

00:45:06Jackie.

00:45:08Had some

00:45:09awkward moments

00:45:09but it was

00:45:10good, it was

00:45:10a challenge.

00:45:15Yeah, it made

00:45:15me realise how

00:45:16much I missed

00:45:17Rhi and I

00:45:18couldn't wait to

00:45:19see her again.

00:45:22Yeah, like by

00:45:23day three I was

00:45:24really, really

00:45:25ready to go

00:45:26home.

00:45:27Yeah.

00:45:28So you missed

00:45:28him?

00:45:29I really

00:45:30did, yeah.

00:45:31It just

00:45:32made me

00:45:32really grateful

00:45:33for our

00:45:33relationship.

00:45:35It was like

00:45:35I definitely

00:45:36am all in.

00:45:39And I did

00:45:40say in my

00:45:41letter like

00:45:41I came here

00:45:42to find my

00:45:43forever person

00:45:43and I

00:45:44wholeheartedly

00:45:45hope that

00:45:46it's Jeff.

00:45:47Oh, look

00:45:50at how smooth.

00:45:55Wow.

00:45:57It's big.

00:45:58Yeah.

00:45:58It's so great

00:45:59to hear.

00:45:59Yeah.

00:46:00Is it hot

00:46:00in here?

00:46:06Jeff, do

00:46:07you think

00:46:08about life

00:46:09outside of the

00:46:10experiment with

00:46:10Rhi and what

00:46:11that's going to

00:46:11look like?

00:46:12Oh, definitely,

00:46:13yeah.

00:46:13I'm actually not

00:46:14worried about life

00:46:15outside of the

00:46:15experiment at all,

00:46:16really.

00:46:18Our relationship

00:46:18is growing

00:46:19stronger every

00:46:19single day

00:46:20and it is

00:46:21becoming really

00:46:21special for me

00:46:22and, yeah,

00:46:23keen to see

00:46:24what the future

00:46:24holds.

00:46:25I love that.

00:46:26Yeah.

00:46:27We're going to

00:46:27go to the

00:46:28decision, you

00:46:29guys.

00:46:29Perfect.

00:46:29Sure.

00:46:29I don't think

00:46:30we're going to

00:46:30be too surprised.

00:46:32What are they

00:46:32going to do?

00:46:34Suspense.

00:46:35We'll start

00:46:35with you, Jeff.

00:46:38Yeah, I'm

00:46:38going to stay.

00:46:39Ah, lovely.

00:46:40Miss Rhi?

00:46:41Yeah, short

00:46:42and sweet.

00:46:43I'm happy and

00:46:44I would like to

00:46:45stay as well.

00:46:45Yay.

00:46:46Excellent.

00:46:48Very nice.

00:46:50Well done.

00:46:51Thanks for your

00:46:51time.

00:46:51Well done, you

00:46:52guys.

00:46:57Jeffrey.

00:46:59Jeffrey.

00:47:01Our next

00:47:02couple up on the

00:47:03couch.

00:47:06Karina and

00:47:07Paul.

00:47:08Paul.

00:47:08Yay.

00:47:17Okay.

00:47:18So, Paul,

00:47:19tell me,

00:47:19what's going on?

00:47:23Feedback week

00:47:24probably didn't go

00:47:25as expected.

00:47:26The honesty letter

00:47:28that I had to write

00:47:29raised a whole bunch

00:47:30of concerns.

00:47:33What was in your letter

00:47:34that brought concerns?

00:47:37So,

00:47:38I spoke about,

00:47:41you know,

00:47:41sort of,

00:47:42um,

00:47:43I said that

00:47:44sometimes she

00:47:44come across as,

00:47:46I feel like she

00:47:46comes across as

00:47:47a bit of a snob.

00:47:51I know,

00:47:52I should have

00:47:53probably not

00:47:53used that word.

00:47:54Is your thought

00:47:57that Karina

00:47:57is a snob?

00:48:00Well,

00:48:01see,

00:48:01that's the thing

00:48:02because I feel

00:48:03like sometimes

00:48:03she comes across

00:48:04as being very

00:48:05judgy.

00:48:06She judges

00:48:07people very

00:48:08quickly.

00:48:09For what?

00:48:12Help us

00:48:12understand what

00:48:13kind of comment

00:48:14was made.

00:48:22So,

00:48:23okay.

00:48:23So,

00:48:24when I

00:48:26told Karina,

00:48:26oh,

00:48:27look,

00:48:27I know

00:48:27Fina

00:48:28because I

00:48:30used to

00:48:31basically

00:48:31date

00:48:32her twin

00:48:32sister.

00:48:36So,

00:48:37Karina

00:48:37felt a bit

00:48:37weird about

00:48:38the partner

00:48:39swap,

00:48:40which is

00:48:40fine,

00:48:41like,

00:48:41which is

00:48:41fair enough.

00:48:43But then

00:48:43she made

00:48:43that comment

00:48:43saying,

00:48:44oh,

00:48:44like,

00:48:44I didn't

00:48:45think you

00:48:45would go

00:48:45for that

00:48:46kind of

00:48:46caliber.

00:48:53so,

00:48:57obviously,

00:48:58that comment

00:48:59sort of

00:48:59triggered me

00:49:00a little bit.

00:49:00You know,

00:49:01like,

00:49:01I personally

00:49:01would never

00:49:02judge someone

00:49:02for where

00:49:03they're from,

00:49:03for where

00:49:03they live,

00:49:04how they look,

00:49:05which is why

00:49:05I decided to

00:49:06raise it into

00:49:06the letter.

00:49:07Karina,

00:49:15how do you

00:49:15feel about

00:49:16all this?

00:49:18Um,

00:49:19obviously,

00:49:19I'm not proud

00:49:20of the comment

00:49:21that I made.

00:49:23The comment

00:49:23was not cool.

00:49:25I was very

00:49:26uncomfortable

00:49:27partner swapping.

00:49:28I did it

00:49:29in insecurities,

00:49:30defence mechanism.

00:49:32That comment

00:49:33wasn't to be

00:49:34out there

00:49:35to the universe

00:49:36and that's

00:49:36what's happened

00:49:37now.

00:49:40Afina was

00:49:41incredible

00:49:41and she

00:49:42fully accepted

00:49:43my apology.

00:49:46But,

00:49:47I feel

00:49:47a bit

00:49:48blindsided.

00:49:51I thought,

00:49:51like,

00:49:52here's my

00:49:52husband,

00:49:53it's a safe

00:49:53space to

00:49:54open up

00:49:54and

00:49:55it's,

00:49:57I mean,

00:49:59hearing all

00:50:00these things

00:50:01from his

00:50:01letter

00:50:02was the

00:50:03last thing

00:50:03I was

00:50:03expecting

00:50:04from him.

00:50:04I felt

00:50:06like I

00:50:07just had

00:50:07a punch

00:50:08to the

00:50:08heart.

00:50:09Now I've

00:50:10definitely

00:50:11got my

00:50:11guard up.

00:50:13I feel

00:50:13like I

00:50:13can't fully

00:50:14trust him

00:50:14right now.

00:50:18Paul,

00:50:20why did

00:50:20you feel

00:50:21it was

00:50:21important

00:50:21for you

00:50:22to tell

00:50:23Afina

00:50:23Afina?

00:50:24That

00:50:25Karina

00:50:25at some

00:50:25point

00:50:26had made

00:50:27a comment

00:50:27about

00:50:28Afina's

00:50:28sister?

00:50:29Again,

00:50:29she was

00:50:30being very

00:50:30judgy

00:50:31of situations

00:50:31or people

00:50:32so I

00:50:32just wanted

00:50:33to have

00:50:33Afina's

00:50:34point of

00:50:35view

00:50:35because I

00:50:35guess that

00:50:36was the

00:50:36whole point

00:50:37of the

00:50:37task,

00:50:37to have

00:50:37someone else's.

00:50:38Well,

00:50:38yes,

00:50:38but if you

00:50:39had a bunch

00:50:39of different

00:50:40examples

00:50:40over the

00:50:41last couple

00:50:41of months,

00:50:42why choose

00:50:42that one?

00:50:43I just

00:50:46got caught

00:50:46up in

00:50:47the task.

00:50:47The task

00:50:47was said,

00:50:48well,

00:50:48just raise

00:50:48concerns.

00:50:49I just

00:50:49wrote stuff.

00:50:50Did you

00:50:51consider

00:50:51Afina's

00:50:52feelings

00:50:52about that,

00:50:53how she

00:50:53might feel?

00:50:54Well,

00:50:54like,

00:50:54because there

00:50:55were concerns

00:50:55so I

00:50:55just wanted

00:50:56to...

00:50:56Why did

00:50:56you tell

00:50:56Afina

00:50:57that at

00:50:57all?

00:51:01You

00:51:01passed

00:51:02on an

00:51:02insult to

00:51:03Afina

00:51:03about her

00:51:04sister.

00:51:06So,

00:51:06there seems

00:51:07to be a

00:51:07sensitivity

00:51:08chip

00:51:08missing.

00:51:10Because,

00:51:11number one,

00:51:11it wasn't

00:51:12confidence.

00:51:13it's not

00:51:13considering

00:51:14the repercussions

00:51:15between

00:51:16Afina

00:51:16and Karina.

00:51:18Yet,

00:51:19also,

00:51:19it is

00:51:20something

00:51:20that you

00:51:20clearly

00:51:21had been

00:51:22holding on

00:51:22to for

00:51:23quite a

00:51:23while

00:51:23and

00:51:23had not

00:51:24brought

00:51:24up

00:51:24yourself.

00:51:31Do you

00:51:32realize

00:51:32the gravity

00:51:33of that

00:51:34choice?

00:51:35I just,

00:51:49I'm just

00:51:50feeling

00:51:50a bit

00:51:52hurt

00:51:53because,

00:51:53like,

00:51:53I just,

00:51:54I thought

00:51:54that task

00:51:54was to

00:51:55raise

00:51:55concerns

00:51:55and I

00:51:56just feel

00:51:57like not

00:51:59a single

00:51:59one of

00:52:00them were

00:52:01even

00:52:02either taken

00:52:03seriously

00:52:03or even

00:52:05slightly

00:52:06validated.

00:52:06I've got to

00:52:07jump in

00:52:08and support

00:52:09Alessandra here

00:52:09because,

00:52:10essentially,

00:52:11you're really

00:52:13missing the

00:52:13point and

00:52:14you're lacking

00:52:15emotional

00:52:15intelligence.

00:52:16intelligence.

00:52:19You're not

00:52:20reading the

00:52:21room.

00:52:30Paul,

00:52:31I've got to

00:52:32jump in

00:52:32and support

00:52:33Alessandra here

00:52:34because you're

00:52:35really missing

00:52:36the point

00:52:36and you're

00:52:37lacking

00:52:37emotional

00:52:38intelligence.

00:52:41You're not

00:52:42reading the

00:52:43room.

00:52:46For you

00:52:52to go

00:52:52to

00:52:52Athena

00:52:53without

00:52:54telling

00:52:55Karina

00:52:55about this

00:52:56just

00:52:58smacks

00:52:58of

00:52:59essentially

00:52:59thinking

00:53:00about

00:53:00yourself

00:53:01and

00:53:01nobody

00:53:02else.

00:53:05You

00:53:06say

00:53:06things

00:53:07like

00:53:07that,

00:53:07you

00:53:07throw

00:53:08grenades

00:53:09out

00:53:09there,

00:53:09it's

00:53:09going

00:53:09to

00:53:09blow

00:53:10you

00:53:10up.

00:53:11It's

00:53:11going

00:53:11to

00:53:11blow

00:53:11your

00:53:11relationship

00:53:12up.

00:53:16The

00:53:17whole

00:53:18thing

00:53:18could

00:53:18have

00:53:18been

00:53:19avoided

00:53:19if you

00:53:19simply

00:53:20had

00:53:20spoken

00:53:21to

00:53:21your

00:53:21wife

00:53:21about

00:53:22what

00:53:22was

00:53:22bothering

00:53:23you

00:53:23about

00:53:23her

00:53:23comment.

00:53:26But instead

00:53:27of taking

00:53:27accountability,

00:53:29you're acting

00:53:29like you're

00:53:30shocked that

00:53:30Karina feels

00:53:31blindsided and

00:53:32upset.

00:53:32I know.

00:53:40What is

00:53:41concerning is

00:53:42the examples

00:53:43that you

00:53:43give break

00:53:44confidence

00:53:45and break

00:53:46trust.

00:53:47So the way

00:53:48you go about

00:53:49it ends up

00:53:49skewing the

00:53:50focus from

00:53:51where you

00:53:51wanted it

00:53:52to be.

00:53:55Yeah.

00:53:58Sorry.

00:54:00I didn't

00:54:00meant to.

00:54:02Karina,

00:54:04how has

00:54:05this made

00:54:05you feel

00:54:06about your

00:54:07relationship

00:54:08with Paul?

00:54:10Yeah.

00:54:11Well,

00:54:13the number

00:54:14one thing

00:54:15that I

00:54:15want is

00:54:16a family

00:54:16with my

00:54:17partner

00:54:17and to

00:54:17feel

00:54:18comfortable

00:54:18in going

00:54:19to that

00:54:19person

00:54:19in a

00:54:20safe

00:54:20haven.

00:54:22To

00:54:23open up

00:54:23and talk

00:54:24about things

00:54:25that you

00:54:25wouldn't

00:54:26maybe say

00:54:26to other

00:54:27people.

00:54:29I feel

00:54:30like I

00:54:30can't fully

00:54:31trust him

00:54:31right now.

00:54:32are you

00:54:38now

00:54:38questioning

00:54:38whether

00:54:39or not

00:54:39you

00:54:39and

00:54:39Paul

00:54:39are

00:54:40truly

00:54:40compatible

00:54:40as a

00:54:41couple?

00:54:51A little

00:54:52bit,

00:54:52yeah.

00:54:53I didn't

00:55:05expect that.

00:55:06sorry,

00:55:15it's a bit

00:55:16of a hot

00:55:16pill to

00:55:17swallow.

00:55:21To say

00:55:21that now

00:55:22she's

00:55:22questioning

00:55:23if we're

00:55:23compatible

00:55:23or not,

00:55:24it hurts

00:55:27to hear

00:55:28that.

00:55:29Well,

00:55:29trust is

00:55:29a big

00:55:30one

00:55:30though.

00:55:31Yeah.

00:55:37I'm sorry.

00:55:37I think

00:55:45we need to

00:55:46go to

00:55:46the

00:55:46decision.

00:55:47We'll

00:55:48start with

00:55:48you,

00:55:48Paul.

00:55:49I know

00:55:51it looks

00:55:51like we're

00:55:51probably not

00:55:52in the best

00:55:52place right

00:55:53now.

00:55:53I have

00:55:55made a

00:55:56mistake.

00:55:56I understand

00:55:57like there's

00:55:58obviously a lot

00:55:59that I need to

00:55:59learn about

00:56:00myself.

00:56:01But I,

00:56:02like I said,

00:56:03I really do

00:56:04like Karina.

00:56:05I like the

00:56:05way she is.

00:56:07She has

00:56:07shown me all

00:56:08those vulnerable

00:56:08and that

00:56:09sensitivity that

00:56:10she can have

00:56:10and so

00:56:12yeah,

00:56:12I want to

00:56:13stay.

00:56:14Excellent.

00:56:15Very nice.

00:56:16Karina?

00:56:17I mean,

00:56:18obviously hearing

00:56:19everything and

00:56:20going through

00:56:20what we've been

00:56:20going through,

00:56:21we are trying

00:56:22to still

00:56:22understand

00:56:23one another,

00:56:24we still

00:56:24care for

00:56:25one another,

00:56:25really like

00:56:26one another,

00:56:27really,

00:56:27really like

00:56:27one another.

00:56:29So yeah,

00:56:29I want to

00:56:30stay as

00:56:31well.

00:56:31Yay!

00:56:32Yeah.

00:56:33Excellent.

00:56:33Figure this

00:56:34out.

00:56:34Work on

00:56:35it.

00:56:41I do

00:56:42know that

00:56:42you guys

00:56:43have a strong

00:56:43relationship

00:56:44and you

00:56:44really like

00:56:44each other.

00:56:45It's been

00:56:45evident

00:56:45throughout.

00:56:46It's a

00:56:47shame to

00:56:48think that

00:56:49you've been

00:56:49harboring these

00:56:50thoughts and

00:56:51these concerns

00:56:52and not felt

00:56:53safe enough

00:56:54to share.

00:56:56Communication

00:56:56is so important

00:56:57in relationships

00:56:58because you

00:56:59want to be

00:56:59able to have

00:56:59the deep,

00:57:00difficult

00:57:00conversations.

00:57:02And the

00:57:03one thing

00:57:04that has

00:57:04to be

00:57:05any love

00:57:06relationship

00:57:06for it

00:57:07to succeed

00:57:07is the

00:57:08trust that

00:57:09you can

00:57:09tell your

00:57:11partner

00:57:11your secrets

00:57:12and they

00:57:13will not

00:57:14be used

00:57:14against you.

00:57:17Well,

00:57:17good luck

00:57:18you guys

00:57:18this week.

00:57:19I hope

00:57:19you have

00:57:19a really

00:57:20good week.

00:57:20Thank you so

00:57:21much.

00:57:25All right.

00:57:32Our final

00:57:33couple up

00:57:34on the

00:57:34couch,

00:57:37Jamie and

00:57:37Dave.

00:57:43Well, I know

00:57:53for a fact

00:57:53that we've got

00:57:53plenty to talk

00:57:54about.

00:57:56We saw a very

00:57:57different couple

00:57:58at the dinner

00:57:58party last night.

00:58:02Frankly,

00:58:03we're even seeing

00:58:03it right now.

00:58:04I mean,

00:58:09you two were

00:58:10going very

00:58:11well together.

00:58:14So, what

00:58:15happened?

00:58:16I feel like

00:58:17our relationship

00:58:18you've seen,

00:58:19obviously,

00:58:19we've had a

00:58:20really good

00:58:21partnership

00:58:21and the union

00:58:22is very

00:58:23evident.

00:58:25But there

00:58:26is an issue

00:58:26within intimacy.

00:58:28The intimacy

00:58:29itself,

00:58:30when it's

00:58:30happening,

00:58:31great,

00:58:31no complaints.

00:58:32Dave just

00:58:33doesn't

00:58:34initiate

00:58:36any intimacy.

00:58:39I feel like

00:58:40I'm constantly

00:58:41pursuing my

00:58:42husband.

00:58:43Right.

00:58:44I've voiced

00:58:45this many

00:58:46times.

00:58:47He seems

00:58:48to understand

00:58:49and wants

00:58:49to make

00:58:50changes,

00:58:51but he

00:58:51doesn't.

00:58:53So,

00:58:54I put this

00:58:55into the

00:58:56letter about

00:58:56intimacy.

00:58:58Adrian did

00:58:58give some

00:58:59feedback.

00:58:59He was like,

00:59:00look,

00:59:00this might

00:59:01not be the

00:59:01case.

00:59:02But from

00:59:03a male

00:59:03perspective,

00:59:03it could

00:59:04be like

00:59:04an attraction

00:59:05thing.

00:59:10Did Dave

00:59:10then reassure

00:59:11you when

00:59:12you brought

00:59:12this up?

00:59:14No.

00:59:18There was

00:59:18no sense

00:59:19of reassurance

00:59:20or validation

00:59:21or even,

00:59:21like,

00:59:21emotion.

00:59:23You know,

00:59:23like,

00:59:24Jamie,

00:59:24of course,

00:59:25I can't

00:59:25believe you

00:59:25think that.

00:59:26I think

00:59:26you're gorgeous.

00:59:27I'm so

00:59:28sorry I

00:59:28haven't shown

00:59:28that.

00:59:29And that

00:59:29was so

00:59:30alarming.

00:59:32I left

00:59:34that

00:59:35conversation

00:59:35not really

00:59:36knowing

00:59:36where his

00:59:37feelings are,

00:59:37still thinking

00:59:38I don't

00:59:38think he's

00:59:39attracted to

00:59:39me.

00:59:40And I

00:59:41feel so

00:59:42confused.

00:59:48Dave,

00:59:49what's your

00:59:51take on

00:59:52all of this?

00:59:52yeah,

01:00:00I think

01:00:00like,

01:00:02yeah,

01:00:06I think

01:00:07I was

01:00:07trying to

01:00:07protect

01:00:08myself.

01:00:11My walls

01:00:12went up

01:00:12because I

01:00:12was like,

01:00:13it sounded

01:00:14like nothing

01:00:14I've done

01:00:15in the past

01:00:15matters right

01:00:15now but

01:00:16this.

01:00:16I sort

01:00:18of got

01:00:18really upset

01:00:19at Jamie

01:00:19because I

01:00:21don't know

01:00:21how,

01:00:21not only

01:00:22does she

01:00:22say that

01:00:23she loves

01:00:23me,

01:00:23she shows

01:00:23me it

01:00:24all the

01:00:24time.

01:00:25We

01:00:25know.

01:00:26But I'm

01:00:27not there

01:00:27yet and

01:00:28it's scary

01:00:28for me.

01:00:30And when

01:00:30it's brought

01:00:30up like

01:00:31that,

01:00:31I do,

01:00:33I don't

01:00:33know,

01:00:33I just,

01:00:34I felt

01:00:34like I

01:00:34wasn't

01:00:35good enough

01:00:35and I

01:00:36was like,

01:00:36I'm putting

01:00:36my walls

01:00:37up because

01:00:37I'm going

01:00:37to get

01:00:37hurt.

01:00:37Do you

01:00:38say it's

01:00:38going back

01:00:39to you're

01:00:39not feeling

01:00:40good enough?

01:00:40But like,

01:00:41in that

01:00:41moment,

01:00:46that's why

01:00:46I needed

01:00:47you to

01:00:47show up

01:00:47for me

01:00:48and you

01:00:48didn't.

01:00:51Even

01:00:51this

01:00:51morning,

01:00:52I was

01:00:53waiting for

01:00:54you to

01:00:54come in

01:00:54to hug

01:00:55me,

01:00:55to kiss

01:00:55me,

01:00:56to be

01:00:56like,

01:00:56I'm

01:00:57so

01:00:57sorry.

01:00:57You

01:00:58came in

01:00:58this

01:00:58morning

01:00:59and you

01:00:59said,

01:00:59I had

01:00:59a problem

01:01:00with how

01:01:00you spoke

01:01:01to me

01:01:01last

01:01:01night.

01:01:06Damn.

01:01:08There were

01:01:09some things

01:01:09last night

01:01:10that hurt

01:01:11me.

01:01:16Dave,

01:01:42I've got

01:01:42to be

01:01:42honest

01:01:43with

01:01:43you.

01:01:44We were

01:01:44watching

01:01:44you guys

01:01:45really

01:01:45closely.

01:01:46last

01:01:46night

01:01:47and

01:01:47we

01:01:48were

01:01:48quite

01:01:48surprised

01:01:49because

01:01:50Dave,

01:01:50you've

01:01:51sat

01:01:51here

01:01:51with

01:01:51us

01:01:52on

01:01:52this

01:01:52couch

01:01:52five

01:01:53times

01:01:53now

01:01:53and

01:01:54talked

01:01:54about

01:01:55the

01:01:55way

01:01:56this

01:01:56relationship

01:01:57has

01:01:57been

01:01:57developing.

01:01:58You've

01:01:58practically

01:01:59danced

01:02:00to the

01:02:01couch.

01:02:01You've

01:02:02been so

01:02:02happy.

01:02:04Yet

01:02:04last

01:02:04night,

01:02:05watching

01:02:06you and

01:02:07seeing

01:02:08the pain

01:02:08that Jamie

01:02:09was in,

01:02:11you were

01:02:11detached,

01:02:12you were

01:02:13cold,

01:02:14you didn't

01:02:14validate her

01:02:15at all

01:02:16when you

01:02:16could see

01:02:16that she

01:02:17was

01:02:17clearly

01:02:17struggling.

01:02:19It

01:02:20appeared as

01:02:21though Jamie

01:02:21was out

01:02:21on her

01:02:22own,

01:02:22on a

01:02:22limb,

01:02:23and you

01:02:24were just

01:02:24allowing

01:02:26that.

01:02:28It was

01:02:28this

01:02:28completely

01:02:29different

01:02:29side of

01:02:30you that

01:02:30we'd

01:02:30never

01:02:30seen

01:02:31before.

01:02:32Yeah.

01:02:32so when

01:02:34you were

01:02:34behaving

01:02:34like

01:02:35that,

01:02:35can

01:02:36you

01:02:36now

01:02:37understand

01:02:37why

01:02:38Jamie

01:02:38is

01:02:39starting

01:02:39to

01:02:39question

01:02:40whether

01:02:40you

01:02:41have

01:02:41feelings

01:02:41for

01:02:41her?

01:02:42yeah,

01:02:46totally.

01:02:52It hurt

01:02:52me because

01:02:53I'm

01:02:54someone who

01:02:54constantly

01:02:55compliments Dave

01:02:57because I want

01:02:58my partner to

01:02:59feel desired,

01:03:00I want them to

01:03:00feel amazing,

01:03:01I want them to

01:03:01feel like the

01:03:02best looking

01:03:02thing out.

01:03:03I buy you

01:03:05nice gifts,

01:03:06I build you

01:03:07up,

01:03:07I initiate

01:03:08sex,

01:03:08but the

01:03:09one thing

01:03:09I've asked

01:03:10is to

01:03:12feel

01:03:12pursued by

01:03:13him,

01:03:14and he

01:03:15hasn't done

01:03:15those things.

01:03:23Dave,

01:03:24why have

01:03:24you not

01:03:25pursued?

01:03:26I think

01:03:26that's the

01:03:26question that

01:03:27Jamie has

01:03:28for you,

01:03:28and that's

01:03:29really the

01:03:29one that I

01:03:30have also.

01:03:31Yeah,

01:03:32I'm trying to

01:03:32understand what's

01:03:33going on,

01:03:33I care about

01:03:34Jamie a lot,

01:03:35she does

01:03:35pursue me,

01:03:35I really

01:03:36like it when

01:03:36she does,

01:03:37it's not like

01:03:38I don't like

01:03:39having sex

01:03:39with her,

01:03:40it's not that

01:03:41at all,

01:03:41I like it

01:03:41when she does

01:03:42that.

01:03:47Why have

01:03:48you not

01:03:48pursued?

01:03:50Yeah,

01:03:51I just,

01:03:52I don't know,

01:03:52I feel like

01:03:53it's,

01:03:56Jamie's sort

01:03:57of taken

01:03:57charge since

01:03:58the start

01:03:59of this

01:03:59relationship,

01:03:59and maybe

01:04:00I've slipped

01:04:00into a

01:04:00pattern.

01:04:01To be honest,

01:04:04I don't believe

01:04:05he has those

01:04:06romantic feelings

01:04:06for me,

01:04:07because he

01:04:08hasn't shown

01:04:08up in that

01:04:09aspect at

01:04:10all.

01:04:10I show up

01:04:11in those

01:04:12ways all

01:04:12the time.

01:04:14Do you have

01:04:15romantic feelings

01:04:16for Jamie,

01:04:16Dave?

01:04:23Yeah,

01:04:23I think,

01:04:24I think I do,

01:04:25it's just

01:04:25he thinks.

01:04:31You think

01:04:31you do?

01:04:32Well,

01:04:32I have.

01:04:33You think?

01:04:34You're guessing?

01:04:37It's...

01:04:38You think you do

01:04:48or you know

01:04:48you do?

01:04:49I do,

01:04:49and that's

01:04:50what,

01:04:50I think this

01:04:51is something

01:04:53that I really

01:04:53need to work

01:04:54on.

01:04:54I don't know

01:05:04what to say.

01:05:07Right now,

01:05:08I'm thinking,

01:05:09like,

01:05:09has my whole

01:05:10relationship

01:05:10been like a

01:05:11figment of my

01:05:12imagination?

01:05:16I feel like

01:05:17the person

01:05:18I've fallen

01:05:18in love with

01:05:19doesn't exist.

01:05:20I question

01:05:23genuineness.

01:05:24I really do.

01:05:25I really do.

01:05:26You're not

01:05:26showing me

01:05:27anything that

01:05:28proves me

01:05:28otherwise.

01:05:36Dave,

01:05:37I need to

01:05:38know how

01:05:39the hell

01:05:39you're going

01:05:40to convince

01:05:40me that

01:05:41this hasn't

01:05:41been a

01:05:42fake

01:05:42relationship.

01:05:47So,

01:05:47now's a good

01:06:05salt.

01:06:10Hey,

01:06:11Dave,

01:06:12do you

01:06:13understand

01:06:14the way

01:06:14you're behaving

01:06:15to this woman

01:06:16who has given

01:06:16you everything

01:06:17over the past

01:06:18two months?

01:06:20Do you have

01:06:21any idea

01:06:21what she's

01:06:22feeling?

01:06:27When a guy

01:06:28that she

01:06:28thinks is

01:06:29100%

01:06:30committed to

01:06:30her

01:06:31suddenly turns

01:06:33up and is

01:06:34disconnected,

01:06:35detached and

01:06:36uncaring,

01:06:37what do you

01:06:38think that

01:06:38does to her?

01:06:39Destroy her.

01:06:40Give me

01:06:41more.

01:06:41How does

01:06:42she feel?

01:06:43Heartbroken.

01:06:44Give me

01:06:44more.

01:06:47We

01:06:56spent

01:06:56five

01:06:58couch

01:06:58sessions

01:06:58with you

01:06:59thinking

01:06:59everything

01:07:00is going

01:07:01well.

01:07:03In three

01:07:04days

01:07:05it looks

01:07:06like you're

01:07:07on your

01:07:07way out.

01:07:09What

01:07:10happened?

01:07:12You got

01:07:13some explaining

01:07:13to do

01:07:14and I

01:07:17don't

01:07:17understand

01:07:17it.

01:07:18Neither

01:07:18does she

01:07:19and neither

01:07:19does the

01:07:19whole group.

01:07:23Um...

01:07:24Dave, you've

01:07:44got some

01:07:45explaining to

01:07:45do.

01:07:56I

01:07:56want to

01:07:57be

01:07:57completely

01:07:59honest.

01:07:59This is

01:08:00one of the

01:08:03most uncomfortable

01:08:04spots in a

01:08:05relationship for

01:08:06me.

01:08:06when Jamie

01:08:08said that

01:08:09she loved

01:08:09me, I

01:08:10got scared

01:08:11because I

01:08:12was worried

01:08:13that I'm

01:08:13not going

01:08:13to get

01:08:13there.

01:08:15And, you

01:08:16know, letting

01:08:17her, letting

01:08:18her down,

01:08:19letting this

01:08:19down.

01:08:20So I

01:08:22shut down

01:08:22and I

01:08:24handled it

01:08:24wrong.

01:08:27That's not

01:08:27who I am

01:08:28and I

01:08:28don't like

01:08:28that person

01:08:29when I

01:08:30put my

01:08:30walls up

01:08:30and I'm

01:08:31not the

01:08:32caring person

01:08:33I should

01:08:33be towards

01:08:34you.

01:08:36But I'm

01:08:37still here

01:08:38and I

01:08:39do care

01:08:39about her.

01:08:41Because this

01:08:41is real

01:08:43and yes

01:08:44the romantic

01:08:44side, I

01:08:45struggle

01:08:45showing her

01:08:47that.

01:08:48And yes

01:08:49there's

01:08:49things that

01:08:50I should

01:08:51have worked

01:08:51harder on

01:08:52and I'm

01:08:53sorry.

01:08:55She does

01:08:56make me feel

01:08:56special and

01:08:57wanted and

01:08:58needed and

01:08:59seen.

01:08:59She's one of

01:09:00the most

01:09:00amazing people

01:09:01I've ever

01:09:01met and

01:09:02that's

01:09:03intimidating

01:09:04to lose.

01:09:06I have

01:09:07to figure

01:09:08out how

01:09:08to get

01:09:09out of my

01:09:09own head

01:09:10at the

01:09:10moment

01:09:10and start

01:09:10thinking

01:09:11more about

01:09:11Jamie.

01:09:13How fast

01:09:14do you think

01:09:14you need

01:09:14to do

01:09:14that?

01:09:17By the

01:09:18time I

01:09:18get off

01:09:18this couch.

01:09:20So it's

01:09:20going to fall

01:09:20on your

01:09:21shoulders.

01:09:25We're

01:09:25going to

01:09:25go to

01:09:25the

01:09:26decision.

01:09:27Stay

01:09:28or leave

01:09:29and we're

01:09:29going to

01:09:29go with

01:09:30you first,

01:09:31Dave.

01:09:32Yeah, I

01:09:40do

01:09:40apologise

01:09:41for how

01:09:41I've

01:09:42acted

01:09:42and the

01:09:44lack of

01:09:44awareness

01:09:46around what

01:09:46was actually

01:09:47happening

01:09:47and to

01:09:48your

01:09:48feelings.

01:09:52But I

01:09:54want to

01:09:55stay and

01:09:56work on

01:09:56them.

01:09:57I like

01:09:58that.

01:09:58Jamie,

01:10:04stay or

01:10:05leave.

01:10:07This

01:10:07whole last

01:10:08couple of

01:10:08days has

01:10:09thrown me

01:10:10through a

01:10:10loop and

01:10:11I'm so

01:10:11sick to

01:10:12death of

01:10:12crying and

01:10:13feeling so

01:10:14just shit.

01:10:16That's all I

01:10:16can say,

01:10:17just shit.

01:10:19I don't

01:10:20believe you

01:10:21right now

01:10:22at all.

01:10:28but because

01:10:31I have

01:10:31put my

01:10:32absolute

01:10:32back into

01:10:33this

01:10:34relationship

01:10:34before I

01:10:35throw

01:10:36everything

01:10:36away,

01:10:37I will

01:10:38continue

01:10:39to see

01:10:40how he's

01:10:41going to

01:10:41show up

01:10:41and humour

01:10:42him with

01:10:42another

01:10:43week.

01:10:50Alright,

01:10:50so you

01:10:51both decided

01:10:51to stay.

01:10:52Good.

01:10:53That's the

01:10:54first hurdle.

01:10:56Dave,

01:10:57you're at a

01:10:57crossroads.

01:10:58This is all

01:10:59about showing

01:11:00up and

01:11:00stepping up.

01:11:01We can

01:11:02talk about

01:11:02fear and

01:11:03your walls

01:11:03going up.

01:11:04That's fine,

01:11:06but frankly

01:11:06it bores me.

01:11:08What we

01:11:09need to hear

01:11:09is how

01:11:10you're going

01:11:10to do it

01:11:11different.

01:11:12Get

01:11:13specific.

01:11:14What are

01:11:15you going

01:11:15to do

01:11:15this week?

01:11:18Woo her.

01:11:20Which

01:11:20suggests

01:11:20romance.

01:11:21Have you

01:11:23got that

01:11:23in you?

01:11:24Sure

01:11:24do.

01:11:25Somewhere

01:11:25in there

01:11:25I'll

01:11:26get it.

01:11:26all right

01:11:29go back

01:11:29to the

01:11:30couch.

01:11:33Still

01:11:33a little

01:11:34bit

01:11:34unsure

01:11:34if Dave

01:11:36does have

01:11:36those romantic

01:11:37feelings.

01:11:38All I

01:11:38can ask

01:11:39is now

01:11:39he proves

01:11:40it.

01:11:41Show

01:11:41up.

01:11:43Romance

01:11:43me

01:11:43homeboy.

01:11:44Do

01:11:45it.

01:11:45tomorrow

01:11:50night.

01:11:51Welcome

01:11:51to my

01:11:52humble

01:11:52abode.

01:11:53It's

01:11:54homestays

01:11:55week.

01:11:55Welcome.

01:11:57Um,

01:11:57Paul.

01:11:58Oh my

01:11:59God.

01:11:59Over two

01:12:00big nights,

01:12:01our couples

01:12:02get a taste

01:12:02of what

01:12:03their married

01:12:03lives might

01:12:04look like

01:12:05outside of

01:12:06the experiment.

01:12:08And for

01:12:09Paul,

01:12:09it's a

01:12:10religious

01:12:10experience.

01:12:11they're

01:12:12married,

01:12:13but not

01:12:13in the

01:12:14eyes of

01:12:14the

01:12:14church.

01:12:14When

01:12:15they come

01:12:15into the

01:12:15family

01:12:16home,

01:12:16they need

01:12:17to be

01:12:17separated.

01:12:18So Paul,

01:12:19you don't

01:12:20have a

01:12:20religion.

01:12:21So I

01:12:21am

01:12:21not

01:12:22religious.

01:12:24Then,

01:12:25your shoes

01:12:25are not

01:12:26allowed on

01:12:26my

01:12:26beard.

01:12:27It's

01:12:27Jackie's

01:12:28house,

01:12:29Jackie's

01:12:29rules.

01:12:30Jackie is

01:12:30the most

01:12:31difficult

01:12:31person.

01:12:32Jackie

01:12:32asks

01:12:33the

01:12:33big

01:12:34question.

01:12:35Your

01:12:35beard

01:12:35isn't

01:12:36very

01:12:36manly.

01:12:37To

01:12:37beard

01:12:38or

01:12:38not

01:12:39to

01:12:39beard.

01:12:39So are

01:12:43you

01:12:43falling

01:12:43in

01:12:43love

01:12:43with

01:12:43Jamie?

01:12:44Protective

01:12:45sisters

01:12:45demand

01:12:46answers.

01:12:47That's

01:12:48grim.

01:12:51Adrian,

01:12:51are you

01:12:51willing to

01:12:52move to

01:12:52Perth?

01:12:53Is she

01:12:54willing to

01:12:54move to

01:12:54Sydney?

01:12:55My

01:12:56nephew's

01:12:56life is

01:12:57here.

01:12:57And my

01:12:57life's

01:12:58in

01:12:58Sydney.

01:12:59Adrian

01:13:00once

01:13:00again

01:13:01faces

01:13:01off with

01:13:02Athena's

01:13:02twin

01:13:03sister.

01:13:04I

01:13:04don't

01:13:04have a

01:13:04very

01:13:04good

01:13:05opinion

01:13:05on

01:13:05Adrian

01:13:06or

01:13:06his

01:13:06family

01:13:06or

01:13:07his

01:13:07friends.

01:13:07Why

01:13:08don't

01:13:08you

01:13:08go

01:13:08inside

01:13:09so

01:13:09me

01:13:09and

01:13:09Adrian

01:13:10can

01:13:10have

01:13:10a

01:13:10chat.

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