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Who Is RMF In 'Kinds Of Kindness?' Willem Dafoe and Jesse Plemons Try To Explain, But It Only Makes Us More Confused
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06/07/2025
Interview with Willem Dafoe and Jesse Plemons
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the through line of rmf appearing in all three stories like thematically i picked up on some
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connections between the three but i was wondering if you guys could speak to his character and like
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the greater meaning of him and why he's the one who shows up throughout the three i'm gonna let
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jesse oh how kind um it's tough to say because reading the script then shooting
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so much of it kind of depends on where you are when you encounter the script or watch it and so my
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opinion evolved and changed throughout shooting it um i don't know it was really funny someone i watched
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the someone that was at the screening in can said oh poor rmf i was like why are you kidding because
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of his shirt at the end because he spilled ketchup or mustard on his shirt uh the through line i i
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don't i i i i couldn't i don't can yorgos articulate that i don't know he wouldn't he wouldn't yeah
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i think it's it's kind of a game and it's like the film itself people are going to bring their
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experience to it and they're going to it's rich enough material that uh yeah people put it together
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the way the way they need to put it together but i think it's it's it's clear that it's not clear
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and it's a little bit of a game so if you're game for the game leap in and have a swing at it
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one thing this isn't fully an answer but one thing that i felt watching the movie for the first time
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that i hadn't thought about until i saw it was you know with the three films we're all playing different
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characters there was some sort of um reincarnation feeling that i got watching it um which it never
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occurred to me while i was shooting it and so maybe rmf is this constant sort of immortal uh figure that
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that i don't know or or a threat of nature you know that uh almost uh like a not a god figure but
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right something that uh goes through everything yeah
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