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00:00So we'll see how that impacts things. It might even impact the KTMQs to the Moto, James.
00:04Yeah, and if I'm all the other guys, you got to take advantage of Seabiscuit.
00:08You know, he's got a Charlie Horse out there, so you got to get him out there.
00:11Hayden Deegan might be a little injured, so all these guys got to try to take advantage of it.
00:15And just like the 450 class, manage to heat.
00:18Another important thing, start in front of that number one.
00:20You might have a chance today if you can get that going.
00:24Here's a Ryder who might have a chance. I don't know where this came from.
00:27Ryder DeFrancisco on the Rockstar Gas Gas, his average finish this year of 15.6.
00:33He dominated qualifying this morning. Fastest in both sessions.
00:36Two laps, faster than anyone else's. Best lap in the second session.
00:41Take advantage of that situation.
00:44And as for Deegan, if he is ailing, how about the points situation?
00:48Let's send it to Jason Thomas with more on that.
00:51Well, Joe Shimoda sits second in points, and he started off this season with a string of second-place finishes.
00:56So if there's anyone who has been looking for any sign of weakness from the number one,
01:01it has to be the number 30 of Joe Shimoda.
01:04And let's not forget, the president of Honda HRC came all the way from Japan to see here today.
01:09So this would be a great opportunity to grab that first win.
01:13Thanks, JT.
01:14And that's really been the theme of the weekend.
01:15And there are so many storylines intersecting at what was going to be the mid-part of the championship
01:21when these first motos are over.
01:23It's exactly halfway through Pro Motocross in 2025.
01:27I don't know if the Deegan situation is really going to slow him up that much.
01:30But I'm really curious to see what Ryder DeFrancisco can bring.
01:34And Dylan Schwartz, career best, third fastest in qualifying.
01:38And he, like Ryder DeFrancisco, was fast in both sessions.
01:41It wasn't just one hero lap.
01:43So maybe a career day for the 44 as well.
01:47Here it is, folks.
01:49Qualifying is one thing.
01:50Can they bring you to the races?
01:52250 Moto 1 from Redbud.
01:54Let's go.
02:03Oh, no.
02:04Ryder De gets buried and tangled off the start.
02:07But Shimoda grabs the whole shot.
02:09Great start by Joe.
02:10He just heard the key up there get in front of the situation.
02:13And now let's see what the number 30 can do.
02:16It's good to see him out front.
02:17It's actually one of the first times, if not the first time, he's been in the lead.
02:21So let's see what HRC Honda can do in front of the boss man.
02:24Yeah, you nailed it, James.
02:25That is his first whole shot of the year.
02:26But here comes Tom Vial, 16 on the Orange Red Bull KTM.
02:30Now we heard Tom been talking about it the last couple weeks,
02:32especially last weekend, opening lap as he makes his way around.
02:36Joe Shimoda, working about that opening lap intensity,
02:39knows that's where Hayden Deegan's really strong.
02:41He's strong everywhere, but can't start.
02:43If you can't start in front of him, you've got to have that intensity.
02:45It's good to see these two.
02:46And I would say probably the two ones that we're likely to maybe upset Deegan
02:50outside of Chance Hymas, who's out injured.
02:53Yeah, these riders are second and third at points.
02:56Shimoda and Vial, you've got Jalik Swole,
02:59who's been very good coming back from injury on the triumph.
03:02Seth Hamaker, Harrop, where is Deegan?
03:04He is 17th.
03:06And DeFrancisco, 22nd.
03:09Yeah, that's a crazy start.
03:10I thought Hayden was, ooh, hang on there, Tom.
03:13Got their feet ripping off.
03:15But, I mean, look at the gap he's already got.
03:17You're talking about the intensity.
03:18That is a good sign for the number 16.
03:20But, yeah, Hayden Deegan's in the back.
03:22And if I'm Tom Vial, I'm running away.
03:24I don't want to see anything to do with that number one,
03:26because eventually he will come.
03:28Maybe he'll worry about it.
03:29Maybe that injury's a little bit worse than what it is.
03:30The Charlie horse, we don't know.
03:32But Hayden might start thinking about the championship if Tom's 15 seconds out front.
03:36Will?
03:36Even though Tom Vial got round Joe Shimoda there, that was an incredible start from Joe.
03:43And it's been a very kind of hit-and-miss situation with his starts.
03:46They've sort of been okay, but they've been working on them, both himself and the team.
03:50And when I asked what specifically, they said, well, it's a little bit of both.
03:52But they've definitely been looking at some mapping to help within that.
03:55So they obviously control the power delivery there.
03:58And they said, but with that, we need Joe to adjust too.
04:00So both of those things have come together.
04:02It's been a real focus over the last week, and definitely helped for the start of Voto 1.
04:06Well, that is Shimoda's first hole shot, Will, since 2023.
04:10So it worked there.
04:12And with Deegan way back.
04:14Believe it or not, even though Vial and Shimoda are top three in points,
04:19neither of them had a lap lead this year until now, with Vial getting that first lap.
04:23Yeah, and we were just talking about in the 450 class, just that different mindset
04:26where we were talking with Aaron, that intensity in the early part of the race.
04:29Now, since they've gotten his start, they've got a gap on Hayden.
04:33Let's see how they react, because as Hondo was talking about, Joe's going to have to adjust.
04:38I think what he's going to have to adjust as well is getting that pace
04:40and being used to not chasing, but rather leading.
04:44Obviously, he has Tom Vial in front, but I think both those guys might be in the same situation.
04:47Let's see what they can do with it.
04:49Right at a watch in green.
04:50That is Seth Hamaker, Monster Energy, Pro Circuit Kawasaki, fourth.
04:54And he's got an inside line on Swole for third.
04:57See if he can make this pass.
04:59He's got it.
05:00JT.
05:01Well, I watch Jaleek Swole.
05:02If you're wondering why Hayden Deegan didn't get such a great start,
05:05you can point to none other than Jaleek Swole.
05:07They both got out to great jumps when we were accelerating side by side.
05:11Swole had just the edge, forced Deegan to let off.
05:14Deegan had to drop back into the pack.
05:16Swole came out third.
05:18You know what's interesting?
05:19Deegan, the headline would be that he's had great success at this track.
05:23He dominated in one of his final amateur races.
05:26That was the scouting moto combine back in 2022.
05:29He won his first pro race here in 2023.
05:32But it's been through consistency.
05:34Deegan has actually never won a moto professionally at Redbud.
05:38And he's got a tall order today, running in 11th, and a golden opportunity for the likes of Bial.
05:43Well, if I was a betting man, which I'm not, I think that might change at some point today.
05:48But, yeah, I think Hayden's, you know, those stats, the way he's riding this year, it doesn't really matter.
05:53But, yeah, some places you just feel more comfortable at it.
05:55And some places you come to, you feel comfortable.
05:57You just don't have the luck to be able to get the wins.
06:00But I'd say he definitely has that pace to be able to get that done.
06:03But that is a strange stat to see.
06:04He's never won a moto here.
06:05And a couple other riders on the move here.
06:08Nate Grasher on the 41.
06:10That's the Monster Energy Yamaha Star Racing Machine.
06:14Schwartz has a good start backing up that good qualifying time.
06:17Deegan, well, he made a mistake, I think, in those rollers.
06:20Yeah, he's got to hang on to that bike, son.
06:23But you can see the gap that he's already lost in two laps.
06:26You know, that's what I was saying, how the weight is filled.
06:29It just spreads out.
06:30Even though he's only, you know, 14 seconds down, he's got a group of riders to get around.
06:35And you heard Jet that last moto saying that the track's kind of difficult to pass on.
06:39It's really deep.
06:40So him exploring, finding those lines is going to be a little bit of a disadvantage at this early stage of the race.
06:46Will.
06:48Well, there's going to be some serious motivation out of this kid right now as he works his way forward.
06:53He started the season perfect.
06:55And then we know he did not until Traxheimers then stole a couple of motos away from him.
07:01And we were all wondering how much was that affecting him.
07:03You know, his narrative was, well, you know,
07:05not really a tall order, I'm not really focused on that.
07:07Well, he very much was.
07:09And apparently he did not like the fact that that strung, that string came to an end.
07:14And they said from this point onwards, he has made it very clear that he wants to win every single moto remaining in the season.
07:21So I'm sure he's going to want to fight as hard as he can, James, to get up to the front here and make that happen.
07:25Yeah, I know he will.
07:28And I know he's definitely a kid of the stats.
07:30I mean, he knew about the stats of how many, you know, moto win, the tie in the record.
07:35So this kid's very well.
07:36He just keeps him motivated.
07:37And I'm sure he's aware that he's never won a moto here, too.
07:40So that's probably motivating for him as well.
07:43JT.
07:44James, you know, it's going to be interesting to watch this.
07:46So what I want to see here from Hayden Deegan is the last 10 minutes, let's say the last five to six laps.
07:52Let's see what his lap times are compared to the leaders.
07:55Because every time he's been in this situation where he's had to close a lead down, that is when he does his best work.
08:01He can put three, four, five seconds in the guys in the last couple laps.
08:05And on a hot day like today, that could be a weapon he can wield.
08:08Thanks, and JT earlier told us as he hits LaRocco's leaf on the 250, and Schwartz just fell in front of him.
08:16So he's making up time and track positions.
08:19Anyway, JT told us about Deegan and Swole off the start.
08:22We have a replay to show you.
08:26Yeah, Hayden didn't get the best of jumps.
08:29So Jalik's on the outside.
08:31So Jalik leans in on him.
08:33No big deal.
08:33But that was really started off bat for Hayden.
08:36He didn't get the jump, and when you don't, these things kind of happen.
08:39But, yeah, he launches that leaf.
08:41But, you know, thinking about it, because he was launched that leaf, he was able to see the guy who fell in that corner.
08:46If he wouldn't have been able to do it, he wouldn't have been jumping, he might have had a chance to run into him.
08:50So when things are working, they're just working.
08:52And I'm going to tell you this.
08:53If Tapial, if they don't have at least 10, 12, 13 seconds on this dude after about 10 minutes left, Hayden's still going to win this race.
09:03Well, we know he can make up time.
09:04And we've seen him do it before, but even on that lap, he's still lost ground.
09:07He's in the pack.
09:08And the gap went from 14 seconds to 15.
09:11And now Diggie goes down.
09:14This is what we needed to see.
09:16You know, like, look, Hayden's moving his way up.
09:18We needed to see from the other guys.
09:20This is going to help those guys out.
09:22This is what they needed to happen.
09:24And as far as Hayden, he'll still march his way back up.
09:27He didn't lose too many positions.
09:28But now you start to wonder, is he going to change that mindset and go to championship mode and get back on that podium?
09:33Or is he still going to go continue hitting the lead and try to win this race?
09:37So we'll find out.
09:38Hayden just passed Levi.
09:39Kitchin back.
09:41This is for eight.
09:42Now Kitchin's on the inside.
09:44Lines all over this racetrack.
09:45Kitchin gets him.
09:48Yeah, I don't think Levi really did much besides just continue down that inside.
09:52That outside just funneled in and Hayden got stuck into it.
09:54So a couple of mistakes, you know, you go back to that practice crash.
09:58And in this one, I don't think it's Hayden doing anything like he doesn't like he's rotting out of control.
10:03But when things are just start going off a little bit, it's easy to make one mistake into two or three.
10:08But Hayden's a smart router.
10:09He'll he'll regroup.
10:11And then ahead of them is Mikkel Harrop on the triumph.
10:14That is a battle right now.
10:15It's seventh, eighth, ninth is what you're seeing on screen.
10:20But it's going to be interesting to see the interval next time around.
10:23Right now, I'd say they're in the thirties.
10:25Not sure if that's accurate yet.
10:27We'll reset that and see how far back Deegan is.
10:29Meanwhile, Tom Vial getting it done up front over Shimoda and Habaker.
10:34And Kitchin, he's pulled away from Deegan and is going after Harrop on that 107.
10:39Yeah, good to see Levi moving up.
10:41And, you know, no matter if Hayden made a mistake, Levi making that pass probably helps him out,
10:46just motivates him to continue moving forward.
10:48So another pass by Levi.
10:50And, you know, looking at our timing score, we lost Dylan Schwartz.
10:54That was him on the inside of that.
10:55So bummer for him being that quick in practice.
10:58But, yeah, let's see what Hayden does.
11:00Now he's going to regroup.
11:02Race is still...
11:03Yeah, our timing and scoring is down, so you can't really see it.
11:07Yeah, well, we know this.
11:09He's only 10 minutes into the moto, so there's plenty of time.
11:12We don't have the intervals at the moment as Vial tries to control it out front.
11:17And Deegan has to go to work on Harrop now because Kitchin is moving forward.
11:25There is Vial, the leader.
11:27Made some bike changes.
11:28They went back.
11:29A little bit more of a 2024 setup.
11:31Starting last week at Southwick was a lot better.
11:34It's funny.
11:35I actually talked to Chase Sexton yesterday, and he said,
11:37I was watching the races on TV, and I told Tom, this ain't going to work.
11:41We've got to go back to what was good in 2024.
11:43They've done that.
11:44And Vial is riding better.
11:45We talked to Vial yesterday about trying to get back into this championship fight.
11:51Hayden, to be honest, yes, we are halfway.
11:54I've been making a couple mistakes, especially in that second round in Hankton.
12:00I did not finish a moto, so I lost a lot for the championship.
12:04I'm, I think, third right now in the championship.
12:07Pretty close from Joe, who is second.
12:10But Hayden is far away.
12:12And obviously, he has been riding well.
12:15He didn't really do any mistakes.
12:17He starts in front, so it's tough.
12:18Right now, it's tough to beat him.
12:20But keep on trying.
12:21That's my goal, each weekend to go to the race and keep on trying.
12:25Keep on winning the race and keep fighting until the end.
12:30Tom Vial, guys, so, you hear it there in that clip.
12:33He's so motivated to keep this going.
12:36It's got to be tough, and I've asked him, it's hard, right,
12:38when it's kind of, this gap is already there.
12:40But the motivation for Tom Vial is there.
12:43And we saw it last week in Southwick.
12:45In that first moto, he just fought so hard to get back after going down for that crash.
12:50And he said, that's what I just need to eliminate, he told me earlier today.
12:54The bike's comfortable now.
12:56Southwick was good.
12:56We've kept what we had set up there.
12:59Coming into this weekend, he said, I've just got to put myself in the right position
13:02to get all this coming together.
13:04And as far as the bike setup goes, Weed, like you said,
13:07they're basically on last year's setup.
13:09It is a little bit different.
13:10They said, you know, their bike, they had a bridge in at the beginning of the year.
13:13Great for hard pack.
13:14That was working well.
13:15But when they sort of tried to develop that version of it, it wasn't going well for them.
13:19So they had to sort of back up a little bit and go down a bit of a back.
13:22And now they're having you and Tom Vial is far happier where he is now.
13:26Well, it certainly looks that way.
13:27It was on the podium last week.
13:30Really, the breakout was a better second moto at high point.
13:33Then the good Southwick we mentioned.
13:34And now out front.
13:36And I think these gaps are legitimately what they are.
13:39As you see on screen, Deegan is 24 seconds back.
13:42The Alibite have a breakthrough.
13:43Deegan is still digging down here.
13:46Seventh.
13:46Behind him is his teammate Thrasher, the bottom box.
13:50Yeah, it's good.
13:51We knew Hayden would regroup and come back up here.
13:54So eventually he's going to come up to the front.
13:55But, yeah, I think that as this race goes on, another maybe five minutes.
13:59Then if Tom keeps that gap, then he'll start relaxing.
14:02At this point, he's still trying to pull away.
14:05Because, look, he knows that one isn't behind him, but he's somewhere behind him.
14:09So I think as a rider, he's still riding a little tense at the moment.
14:13And so as this race starts getting on, he keeps that gap.
14:15He'll funnel in.
14:16And I think that he'll just look a little bit cleaner around the racetrack.
14:20That being said, only Joe Shimoda, we know how he is.
14:23He gets better as the race goes on.
14:24He's only five seconds behind him as well.
14:26So the race ain't over for the win.
14:27So that's key that you said that.
14:29When a rider gets as dominant as Deegan has been or, say, Jett Lawrence in the 450s,
14:33every rider says, I want to ride my own race.
14:35But you're thinking about the guy even when you're logging your own laps.
14:38Oh, yeah, absolutely.
14:39And my boy, the counterpart, Ricky Carmichael, yeah, it really wouldn't matter if I was out front
14:44unless I was just feeling like I'm going to just beat him, which wasn't that many times.
14:49I was always racing against him.
14:51And at some point, he just knew if I wasn't out front by, you know, 15 seconds, we're halfway to go,
14:57there's no point in trying to just run away from this guy.
14:59This guy's going to eventually.
15:00So as I'm riding my own race, I'm riding my race thinking about where Ricky is at this point.
15:04And Tom Bial, because Deegan has been so dominant, because Deegan is so strong at the end of the race,
15:09Tom is riding, you know, thinking about where he is.
15:13So there'll be a point where he'll know that he won't be able to catch up.
15:16But I don't think that points yet.
15:17Will?
15:17All right.
15:18Think about it.
15:19Will?
15:20Just watching these two guys here, the ninth and eighth, that battle for eighth.
15:24We've got Mikel Haro and Nate Thrasher.
15:27And neither of them really with much experience riding here in motocross.
15:31That might sound strange to say about Nate Thrasher, but due to injuries,
15:35he's never gone this deep into an outdoor season before.
15:39The team were telling me this is just kind of a building year for him in that sense.
15:43Like every week he's getting stronger.
15:44During the week, they're picking stuff out with setup and the bike.
15:47And him personally, we think of Nate Thrasher as this guy who'd be great outdoors,
15:52because he's such a gutsy, gritty rider, but at this point,
15:55this is all kind of new for him from this point onwards.
15:59Yeah, and Thrasher's on the radar because he's won several Supercross races
16:03the last couple of years.
16:04But on the downside, he's gotten hurt in Supercross the last couple of years.
16:07So that's why he does not have the outdoor results to match his Supercross success.
16:12Checking in with Shimoda here, second.
16:15And he's closed up a little bit on the L on the Honda HRC Progressive bike.
16:19There could still be a run at it because somehow there's still a lot of racing left in this moto.
16:26It feels like we've been out here a while, but not even halfway.
16:29Yeah, there's a lot of racing, and Tom didn't have a great lap.
16:32I mean, he ran a 2.14 to 2.14.1 to Joe's 2.12 to Hayden Deegan was a 2.11 along with Levi Kitchen.
16:40So Tom lost a lot of time.
16:42So that's why I was mentioning, like, he still looks like he's racing behind him
16:46just because he's not comfortable being out front because you know that number one's going.
16:49But this guy, good to see Seth back up here.
16:52Talked about his injuries throughout the Supercross season.
16:54It was a nice confidence booster for him.
16:56The outdoors hasn't started off great for him.
16:59He missed a couple rounds, but good to see Seth back.
17:01And we know he has the speed as well once he can get through these injuries
17:04and just log these laps.
17:05Yeah, it was a couple weeks ago at High Point had his first ever moto podium in motocross.
17:11Not quite as good in the sand of Southwick, but back up there today, Will.
17:14Yeah, now we've got the chance to talk to him earlier, Weege, about Supercross
17:19and how the end of that season has perhaps affected him going into the motocross season here.
17:24You said, I mean, he was right there, right?
17:26That Supercross championship was kind of snatched away from him, if you'd like,
17:30right in the finale there.
17:32And he said, honestly, it would have been kind of better if I had a Supercross hangover.
17:35In other words, if he'd won that championship, then he's like, all right, that's, I can handle that.
17:40He's like, but honestly, the way it went down, he's like, I'm not going to dwell on it.
17:43I can't be there every week thinking about this.
17:46He said, but I'll be honest, it took its toll.
17:48Emotionally, physically, that took its toll.
17:50And sort of kind of just rebuild the confidence back from that.
17:54Yeah, no, I agree with Seth.
17:56And there's not a lot of hangovers over life that you like, you want to have.
17:59But a Supercross hangover, that's not a bad one to have.
18:01Well, yeah, the championship one comes with a big check, probably about half a million bucks.
18:07His hangover is the fact that he didn't get it because of the drama with battling R.J.
18:11Hampshire, Julian Beaumere, and then Vial was able to sneak it out.
18:15Sneaking up now on Hammaker is his teammate, Levi Kitchen.
18:20Yeah, I'm looking at the timing of the scoring.
18:22I don't know if Hayden went down again or whatnot.
18:25So Levi's just really cruising because, yeah, Levi's got around.
18:29Yeah, he checked out.
18:30Yeah, and Michael Boseman and Hayden behind him.
18:33So I'm sure what happened there, I thought Hayden was right behind Levi.
18:36But Levi's got the pace.
18:37And, you know, you're starting to wonder, was it just that pass, him making that pass on Hayden going down that hill?
18:44I mean, he's lit a candle.
18:46He's got the fire going.
18:47So good to see that.
18:48And he's going to have this pass on his teammate right here.
18:50Got to slow it down a little bit, make sure he doesn't cut my need to.
18:57That's good stuff.
18:58Okay, so Kitchen all the way up to third from outside the top ten.
19:04And what's interesting about the 250 class, Haymes is now out.
19:08But for all the chaos and all the things that have happened,
19:11it's honestly the same players that are the quote-unquote Deegan challengers.
19:15Vial, Shimoda, really Kitchen has come back to life the last couple of weeks.
19:19And those really were the three, along with Haymes, that were expected to be the guys closest to him.
19:23Yeah, no, absolutely.
19:24And, yeah, it's a bummer to see Chance because I feel like when Hayden's on his best, Chance's on his best,
19:30like Chance can beat Hayden.
19:31I feel like with these other guys, Hayden's got to get a bad start.
19:35And just because of where their confidence is at this moment, not just their speed,
19:38because Levi knows how to ride.
19:40Same thing with Joe Shimoda.
19:41Things got to happen right, as it does for all these guys.
19:44So, yeah, the same players are going to be there.
19:47He's going to get it done, it looks like.
19:49Hey, we said, as you see Deegan catching Mozeman for fifth,
19:53the KTM Kings and Moto take advantage of the situation.
19:56The situation ended up being a bad start and a tip-over for Deegan,
20:00and they're taking advantage as the check-in here for the Monster Energy Yamaha Star Racing team begins.
20:07Mozeman and Deegan battling sixth and seventh.
20:09You see them, and then Thrasher back there in eighth.
20:13But, yes, they are indeed taking advantage of the situation.
20:17Yeah, you got to.
20:18Hayden got a little swole up off the gate.
20:21Yeah, he did.
20:23No puns.
20:24I see what you did there.
20:26Swole is actually seventh right behind Deegan at the moment.
20:31Mozeman has caught Seth Hamaker just like that.
20:34Yeah, or did Seth go down over here because of George.
20:37Yeah, that happened in a hurry.
20:39So, we're going to see.
20:40Has Hamaker lost some steam here, or was it just one error?
20:43Yeah, as you mentioned earlier, Michael could run really good.
20:49This is a battle for the lead.
20:50Wait a minute.
20:51Yes, Joe time.
20:53Joe Shimoda has caught Tom Bial.
21:01Battle for the lead.
21:03Just like that.
21:04It was a nearly five-second gap, then a three-second gap,
21:07and now a no-second gap for the Frenchman.
21:11Yeah, now, the best part of this, you know,
21:13when you start thinking about this race,
21:14this might have worked out for Joe
21:16because I don't know how comfortable he would have felt in the lead.
21:19We know how strong he is at the end of the races,
21:22but because Tom was able to pass him,
21:24we saw the gap that Tom had.
21:25He had almost six seconds on him.
21:27Now, Joe was able to ride and kind of fill in this normal zone
21:30as this guy behind him almost KOs himself.
21:33Showing us how rough this track is.
21:35Showing us how rough this racetrack is.
21:36Joe's been in more of a comfortable spot.
21:38He's been able to watch where Tom has been fast at,
21:40and now it's go time for Joe.
21:42And we can go back years ago
21:43where Joe had one of the most dominant rides out here winning at Moto.
21:47So let's go get some by East Coast.
21:54Battle for the lead for the 250 Moto 1.
21:58He's going to listen in.
22:03Bottom box, Deegan doing more work.
22:05Moseman around Hammaker.
22:07Deegan right behind them.
22:08That is for fourth, fifth, and sixth.
22:17Big difference in lines between these two riders out front.
22:20Shimoda trying to make it happen, James.
22:25Yeah, Joe is trying to.
22:26When he gets close to Tom right here, he kind of makes some mistakes.
22:29I think that's just the way that these ruts are so long.
22:33It looks like Michael gets around Seth right down there,
22:35but these ruts are so long it's easy to just make a mistake
22:37because you're so close to the guy.
22:40Deegan almost got Hammaker in that bottom box as well.
22:43Good three rider fight.
22:45For fourth with Kitchen not too far ahead.
22:47Deegan squaring up Hammaker.
22:49Shimoda right there for the lead.
22:52Now if Tom's going to be stuck in his rush,
22:54Joe can just run it down the inside.
22:56He's going to have this hump here,
22:57so he's going to have to get out of his berm and cut him off.
22:59Got it.
23:00There you go.
23:03Let's listen for the drag race up to the Monza wall.
23:09And this crowd coming to life with Shimoda's charge.
23:11Yeah, international, they love Joe out here.
23:15Joe's one of the fan favorites, so cool to see him out here.
23:19I expect Joe probably put in a couple laps
23:20and maybe get her and start pulling away on Tom
23:23because he looks really comfortable at doing it
23:25as we're watching these guys go at it in the bottom down here.
23:28Yeah, Deegan made the move on Hammaker.
23:32Lap rider there needs to get to Moseman.
23:36That would be next.
23:38And Shimoda go.
23:39Here's Deegan with the attack on his teammate Moseman.
23:45Moseman riding very well as of late.
23:48Oh, no.
23:48Now Deegan has the steam coming out of the bike,
23:51similar to Eli Tomac in the first moto.
23:54Yeah, now I believe the way we are in this moto,
23:56that steam might be just clutching and overheating.
23:59I can see Hayden rushing some of these corners,
24:02getting cross-riding,
24:03which means you've got to pull in the clutch to get this thing going.
24:05And Hayden doesn't like to let off the throttle,
24:07but now she's smoking pretty hard, JT.
24:10He is.
24:10And remember Thunder Valley.
24:12We talked to Brian a little bit after the race.
24:14He's just saying he's overriding the motorcycle.
24:16Too high of RPMs,
24:18using the clutch too much out of frustration,
24:20and it feels like he's right back in that place again.
24:23So I'm going to take a look at the pit board this time
24:24and see if they're telling him to get off of the clutch,
24:27similar to they did in Thunder Valley.
24:30That'll be next quarter here.
24:38Trying to listen to Deegan's style, though.
24:44Yeah, he's hard on a bike, no doubt about it.
24:47With the aggressive style.
24:48Will he pack it in and just try to take points?
24:53Yeah, I mean, I could just tell by those couple corners.
24:55He must have got the feeling or somebody told him
24:58because he's definitely not, you know, running in his corners,
25:01bike wide open, the clutch pulled in, which he was doing.
25:04And that was because, as JT mentioned, he was getting frustrated.
25:07You see by his body language right here,
25:08it's changed up a little bit.
25:09So hard part about Hayden, you're a racer.
25:12Once you get back up to Michael and you start battling,
25:15you've got to go back to who you normally are and how you ride.
25:17So he's got to be conscious of that.
25:20Got to be conscious of that.
25:21Got cross-running downhill and then down.
25:24Oh, man, you saw that coming.
25:26And look at that bike starting to smoke.
25:28Now he knows that the bike's steaming.
25:30He's just got to look at it.
25:31Sometimes the riders don't even realize
25:32because it's underneath them as they ride.
25:34It's falling apart quickly for the series leader.
25:37Now that bike's so hot, sometimes they don't like to start.
25:41Even with the electric start, it did that time.
25:44But it has come undone.
25:45Yeah, it's come undone.
25:46And you can start to see a few of those mistakes starting to happen earlier.
25:50He was starting to run in these berms, getting crotch-rutted.
25:53Now it's because he was just really too aggressive going down into these things.
25:56And these potholes here at Rampo, they'll come up and bite you.
25:59And how long these ruts are, it's really easy for that to happen.
26:02And so these guys have keys to race.
26:04They took advantage of the situation.
26:06They did.
26:06They must.
26:07Absolutely.
26:07Shimoda most right now.
26:11Now, eventually that Deegan doesn't have a moto win here.
26:13It's a short sample size.
26:15It's only four motos over the last two seasons.
26:18And now moto number five.
26:19Is there anything about that aggressive style that maybe doesn't work as well at Redbud?
26:25Or is this just circumstances?
26:27No.
26:27I mean, I think he can't ride the way he's riding in the way, you know, running it down in these corners.
26:34Because we talked about it, and JT mentioned that patience.
26:38So when you get frustrated, one thing you don't have is patience.
26:41That's why people have horns on their car.
26:43They hunk it.
26:43And so you can see Hayden really running it down in these corners.
26:46And I think with him, it's not that his riding style doesn't work.
26:49It's just the way you have to ride this racetrack.
26:52And Hayden, when he's out front and he's comfortable, he doesn't ride that way.
26:55So when he's not, he runs it into these, and Redbud will come up and bite you because of how long these ruts are.
27:02So I wouldn't say anything his riding style is the reason why he hasn't won here at this racetrack.
27:07But for sure, no matter how he rides, he can't ride that way, and normally he doesn't.
27:11So, yeah, we're talking about at the top of the show, JT talking about maybe slower into the corner.
27:16This track ends up being faster around the track.
27:19Yeah, and the reason it is because the ruts are so long.
27:22So if you run it in, what Hayden did right there, that was literally him just rushing that downhill.
27:28And he hit one bump.
27:29And because the ruts are so long, you get cross-rutted, and he just got cross-rutted,
27:33and there's five or six ruts that he has to deal with, and eventually they end up catching him out.
27:37So you've got to be patient.
27:38And the whole thing is not to run it in there to bike react, and you slam into the rut.
27:42And it's not like other tracks where you just hop out a run rut.
27:45You've got to cross four or five ruts to get out of there, and that's when it really comes out and bites you.
27:49So you've got to be patient going in.
27:50And then as for Shimoda here leading the way, Joe has said before he used to take heat for not being aggressive early in the races
27:59and not being a good starter, and he would say a lot of it is he feels like his asset is as the track gets rougher,
28:07he can be creative and find lines.
28:08And at the beginning of the day, the beginning of the moto, track's not as rough.
28:12And lo and behold, second half of this moto, this dude has come to life.
28:17Yeah, I mean, Joe has been strong in the second moto, second halves of the season,
28:20and as I mentioned last weekend, when he's got second moto, he got in second.
28:24Hayden was right there.
28:25I mean, he didn't lose any time to Hayden.
28:27The problem is with Joe is that because he's not aggressive, all the other riders know he's not aggressive,
28:32and so they race him differently than they do anybody else,
28:34which makes it even more tougher for him to get past anybody.
28:37So he's figured it out this moto.
28:39Will?
28:40Oh, it's his mechanic that says no rest.
28:45I was talking to the team specifically, the team manager, Lars Lindstrom over at Honda HRC,
28:50about Joe and his fitness, because Joe's mentioned to me several times how he thinks that that is a strength for him,
28:56especially in motocross, late in motocross, when it gets rough.
28:59And Lars said to me, he said, honestly, I think it's genetic.
29:02He said he doesn't really have a different program than anybody else.
29:06He doesn't necessarily train hard in that sense.
29:08He trains hard.
29:09But he said, honestly, genetically, he's just gifted in that area.
29:13His fitness is good.
29:14He's always strong throughout the motos.
29:16We've said it a lot of times, James, you've mentioned how tough Hayden Deegan is.
29:20And Joe knows that he's going to need that, and that he's qualified in that area in order to be able to challenge Hayden.
29:27We saw at the end of motocross, at sound, he was the one who was able to keep the gap while everybody else fell back.
29:32And now, again, in motocross, one here today, in the heat, he's strong again.
29:36The mechanic must have been talking to me.
29:38You know, I must have told him, because I'm, hey, Jay, how are you so good?
29:41Genetics, baby.
29:43Genetics is not his.
29:44So Joe's got some good ones.
29:46JT.
29:47Yeah, just to follow on kind of what Will was saying, the mechanic, I think he played a big role here in this moto,
29:53because when Tom Vial was starting to pull away, every single lap that Joe came around,
29:58it was a similar message to stay in the fight, stay focused on Vial,
30:03because I think they knew if Joe could stay close enough, he was going to have an opportunity in the second half of this moto,
30:08and he definitely made the most of that.
30:10Yeah, absolutely.
30:11And as a rider, you know, when you get passed by a guy, they pull aways, looking at Eli getting that bike ready for the next race.
30:19Yeah, that bike didn't make it to the finish of moto one.
30:21Yeah, the way Tom passed you in the beginning part, he pulls, you know, those two seconds,
30:25about three laps into it, once that gap stabilized, you as a rider know in your heart whether you can get back to him,
30:30because otherwise, if he would have just kept pulling that pace, then Joe would have started riding for a second.
30:34So his mechanic told him, stay in that fight, because Tom, that gap stabilized, and that's where it ends up working.
30:39And then Joe was right there for it, and took it full advantage.
30:43Deegan is back in 12th now.
30:44We're showing Tomac's bike, because remember, that started smoking.
30:47That didn't make it to the finish line.
30:49And then we saw Deegan, the championship leader, having the same problem in this moto, still running though,
30:56but all the way back in 12th.
30:57So well done for Shimoda, going to make up a ton of points here.
31:04And he's got it now, nearly six seconds on Vial.
31:07Yeah, this is a great ride from Joe.
31:10And he's coming up to that section where Hayden went down, and looking more apt to it.
31:14You see guys out the window going down.
31:16It's a huge hole in the middle part of that racetrack.
31:19And so last lap, Joe really slowed down to try not to get that bike to bottom out in it.
31:26But it's just easy to catch him out, especially if you override it.
31:28It's a reminder that the next moto, keep watching here on Peacock or the SMX Video Pass,
31:34it will also air live on NBC in the United States.
31:37So if your friends want to check in on motocross, let them know.
31:40Coming up at the top of the hour, 450 Moto2 from Redbud.
31:43We're excited to get that crowd and that podium on the live NBC show.
31:48Nothing quite like it.
31:50That ceremony at Redbud.
31:52And Joe Shimoda made some fans on that podium a couple years ago.
31:55I remember he came up to the podium.
31:57Remember he had iHeartUSA, I think, written on his chest under his jersey.
32:02Yeah.
32:03He's going to love it today.
32:04Yeah.
32:05When he got in the lead, I mean, these fans were cheering him.
32:07You know, Joe's us, man.
32:10We all like family out here.
32:11But good.
32:12He's just happy for Joe.
32:14Really quiet.
32:15You know, goes about his business the right way.
32:17Always trying.
32:18He had the Supercross where he had a broken finger.
32:20Kept going out there.
32:21Broken finger by a pit board.
32:22I mean, how's that happen?
32:24Yeah.
32:24But Joe's out here fighting, and he's got to love it.
32:27So these crowds, they recognize that.
32:29They love it when they see a guy out there, you know, fighting through that.
32:32They don't get a victory if he can hold on.
32:34And as I've heard, many people who've worked with Shimoda before
32:36has said, like Adam's seen Cerullo, who used to train with him,
32:40the leader in the unintentional comedy scale.
32:43Joe's a great time to hang out with.
32:44Not even sure sometimes of some of the things he says are on purpose to make people laugh,
32:48but he's definitely fun to hang out with.
32:51Fial is second.
32:52Shout out to Levi Kitchen from way back to third, 13th on lap one.
32:58And even more passing.
33:00If you look all the way back at 10th, Garrett Marchbanks started in 34th.
33:05Marchbanks has now passed 100 riders so far this year.
33:10So the stars have not been there for a couple of these Monster Pro Circuit Kawasaki riders.
33:16But, boy, have they been strong.
33:17Yeah, definitely.
33:18It's one of those stats that you don't know if it's a good thing or a bad thing.
33:22Yeah, we know you got the pace.
33:24But, I mean, dude, you pass on a lot of guys.
33:27Nonetheless, it's good to see them.
33:29But I'm with you.
33:30I'm impressed by this ride by Levi.
33:32It almost looks like it was in that second moto where he was able to regroup last weekend
33:36and keep fighting the beginning part of that second moto.
33:38This is the Levi we like to see.
33:40Love this.
33:41And, again, it's the riders that are up there in the points
33:47that are taking advantage of Deegan's misfortune in this one to claw some back.
33:53So you have Bial, who was third in the championship, second in this moto.
33:56We check back in with him.
33:58A lot of rumors about Bial getting an offer from Honda's MXGP team
34:02to potentially go back to Europe.
34:03I've heard he has not signed that.
34:06And then he put on his social media this week, looking forward to Red Bud this year
34:11and next year on a 450.
34:13So he's indicating that he might not be going back.
34:16He has to race a 450 in Supercross next year because he won two 250 Supercross titles.
34:22We presume if he did that, he'd probably race 450 in motocross as well.
34:26KTM has offered for him to return on a 450 next year.
34:30So we'll see what direction Bial goes.
34:33Nothing signed yet, but, hey, nothing over yet.
34:38Deegan had this gigantic point lead, but today's showing anything can happen.
34:43That's why we go racing.
34:44Anything can happen.
34:45And speaking of back, you know, going back, if he looks back, he's going to see Levi all over him.
34:51Yeah, Levi's in the shot.
34:52So even in second place, it's not over.
34:55You're going to see Levi pop in the seat.
34:57Oh, yeah.
34:58What has happened to Bial, who had checked out the first ten minutes of this moto?
35:02You are right, James.
35:04Kitchin on the attack.
35:05Yeah, I wouldn't even say there's something happening to Tom.
35:08I just how good Levi's riding right now.
35:11He's found the flow.
35:12The kitchen is open.
35:13It's serving.
35:16Yeah, Bial running at 214.
35:17That's not actually that bad of a lap.
35:19It was actually quicker than Shimoda.
35:21It's just Kitchin ran a 2-11.
35:25Kitchin just ran his best lap of the moto.
35:29Six seconds faster than Tom Bial, and he's coming.
35:33Yeah.
35:33I can't tell if that was a mistake or on purpose, both.
35:3847 is on fire.
35:40The Kitchin's on fire.
35:43We need to call the fire marshal.
35:44Let's keep him open.
35:47Yeah, Levi's just got a good flow, and he's making up a lot of time right before that finish line.
35:51And you know as a rider, when you're confident, Levi would have never went out to that line.
35:54But he's confident that he has the pace to be able to catch him.
35:57Just start making him nervous.
35:59This is a good line for him as well.
36:02He made up so much ground.
36:03They almost came together in that corner.
36:06Kitchin can go anywhere he wants right now.
36:09Levi, what they serving?
36:11French baguette's up in here.
36:12So, yeah, get up in there.
36:17And again, I see some of the lines Kitchin's taking, and I'm like, what are you doing out there?
36:21But then it actually works out.
36:23You think it's a mistake, and it actually works out?
36:25He's got the flow right now on the outside.
36:27He's got him right here, the same place that Don Joe got him.
36:30Now Levi's got to get out of this corner and cut him off.
36:32There you go.
36:34You said about 20 minutes ago he passed Deegan back in that section.
36:39And since then, he has unlocked something.
36:41Yeah, Levi's, the confidence.
36:43We talk every weekend, and you hear these guys.
36:45They're trying to find that little bit of confidence.
36:47And who knows?
36:48Him, he doesn't know what happened to Hayden.
36:50Hayden got around him.
36:51He passed him back, and ever since then, the kitchen has been wide open, on fire.
36:56And you've got to think, if you had a few more laps, Joe time might be in trouble.
37:00But Levi's definitely got the flow.
37:02But still, at the end of the day, what do you can say about this guy?
37:05HRC, Joe Shimoto comes out.
37:08Last weekend had that second placement.
37:09Second a lot of motos this year.
37:12Get him a good start.
37:13Joe gets it done.
37:14It's the Honda Redbud National.
37:17We mentioned that the president of Honda HRC, visiting from Japan, does not come to American motocross races very often.
37:23And he's seen two moto wins already.
37:26Joe Shimoto takes 250, moto one at Redbud.
37:32Kitchen a great charge.
37:34And, boy, does this set the scene for moto two.
37:36Kitchen, Shimoto, Vial.
37:38You know, Deegan will try to quickly extinguish the fire that we mentioned these riders have.
37:44Deegan, right now, though, is just in points mode.
37:47Yeah, I don't know if Hayden went down.
37:48He's in 14th now.
37:49I thought he was up to 12th, so.
37:52It's his worst moto finish since Bud's Creek in 2023, where he finished 16th.
37:56And if you remember that race, he actually was gone, had a giant lead, and the race got red flag restarted.
38:02He went down in the first turn.
38:06And, yeah, 14th right now.
38:08Yeah, I'm not sure if he's, if he went down again, or is he just trying to save the bike, maybe?
38:17Yeah, trying to save the bike.
38:19We remember in Colorado, the same thing happened towards the end of that first moto.
38:22We really had to slow down.
38:25Where Garrett, March Paints almost got him in that different race.
38:31So a few turns to go here for the champion to nurse it home.
38:36And 14th.
38:38He's going to pay seven or eight championship points.
38:42So Shimoda's going to make up around 20 in this one.
38:47And get it back under a two motos gap lead.
38:53It'll be a 41 point lead for Deegan now.
38:58A little bit interesting to hear what happened.
39:01And to see how he rebounds in moto two.
39:04Championship leader 14th.
39:05Shimoda continues a great day for Honda.
39:09Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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