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  • 7/3/2025
During a House Financial Services Committee hearing on Tuesday, Rep. Josh Gottheimer (D-NJ) asked Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell about the threat of a cyberattack on the Fed.
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00:00Chairman. Chairman Powell, as a member of the Intelligence Committee, I'm deeply concerned
00:04about the threat of Iranian cyber attacks on our financial system as retaliation for our strikes
00:09on their nuclear facilities. In his cybersecurity report last year, the Fed acknowledged that
00:12critical infrastructure, including financial services, is at risk with rising geopolitical
00:17tensions. Iran has a history of targeting American infrastructure companies and financial
00:20institutions and banks, which could obviously threaten and cause economic damage. What actions
00:26is the Fed taking now to monitor and defend against Iranian or proxy cyber threats targeting
00:30our country's financial institutions? So we're in touch with the other regulators
00:36and the parts of the government that work on cyber, as you know, and, you know, we're in
00:42touch with the banks to say, you know, for people to be on the alert for things like that
00:48to happen. And also, we're on the alert because, you know, we're a target as well. So you're
00:52right to raise it. It's a, you know, it's a big issue. And I feel like you have the resources
00:56right now to be prepared for that? Yes. I mean, I think we do. We're, you know, we've,
01:01we spend a lot and the government generally spends a lot on these things and we've, we've,
01:07but, you know, you can never, ever be comfortable in this area because, you know, the bad guys
01:11are always getting better. So we need to keep to get better. Thank you, Chairman. Switching
01:16gears, the president and members of his administration have recently called you out
01:21various name calling for certain decisions you've made. I know that some people worry
01:26that the president's bullying will impact your decision making. I know you work together
01:31and I know that and respect, obviously, your independence greatly. Anything you want to
01:35add and give you a chance to reiterate your independence to the American people?
01:40Yeah, I just, I would just say we're, we're focused on one thing and that is we want to
01:45deliver a good economy for the benefit of the American people. That's it. And anything else is
01:51kind of a distraction. I don't mean to refer to any particular thing, but we stay focused on that
01:55task all the time. We always do what we think is the right thing to do. And, you know, we live
02:01with the consequences and that's, I don't know how else to do the job. Right. So the name calling
02:06and the Mr. Too Late and all that stuff, we shouldn't, the American people shouldn't worry
02:10about that. You're focused on being independent. Just, yeah, that's what I care about. I care about
02:14doing the job for the American people. The things we do matter a lot for people's lives
02:19and that really concentrates the mind. You know, you, you want to just stay focused on
02:25that task. As long as you're sitting in these chairs that we occupy, focus on that task,
02:29do what you think is the right thing and take the consequences.
02:32Thank you, Mr. Chairman. You've previously stated that you've used stable coins as a form
02:36of money. Payment stable coins are already being used for both retail and wholesale payments,
02:40as well as for settlement. Recently, this committee passed the Stable Coin Act and the Senate
02:43passed the Genius Act, both aiming to establish clear regulatory frameworks for fully
02:47reserved dollar-backed payment stable coins. Given their design to maintain a stable value and be
02:52redeemable for U.S. dollars, should the SEC or other regulators explore treating these
02:56stable coins as cash equivalents for accounting or financial reporting purposes?
03:01Let me say, I think it's a great thing that bills are moving. We need a stable coin framework.
03:06On that particular issue, I don't have a view for you. I can come back to you on that.
03:09I'd be grateful. Thank you. High rates have also caused, as we've discussed,
03:16the cost of paying off our nation's debt to skyrocket. The CBO estimates that interest
03:20payments will cost the U.S. a trillion dollars in fiscal year 2026 and continue to rise to almost
03:251.8 trillion by FY2035. How do you see us continuing to be able to afford to pay off our
03:31debt at this rate? And as the U.S. continues to borrow, how does that impact your decision
03:34to keep or cut rates? Obviously, foreign countries like Japan, who are significant buyers
03:40of our bonds, have started decreasing their purchases significantly. Other internal pressures
03:44worldwide are having that impact. Are you worried about this global issue?
03:49You know, fiscal policy really is not our job, and it's not something we take into consideration
03:55in making monetary policy. That's really elected people's jobs. And I would add that, you know,
04:02for some time now, the U.S. federal fiscal policy has been on an unsustainable path. And,
04:08you know, I'll limit myself to that.
04:13Last question. Last week, you chose to keep rates steady. And families in our state, as you'll hear
04:18from a lot of people today, are really struggling with the higher cost of borrowing and putting off
04:22bigger purchases on things like cars and homes. As a result, their wallet's being crushed by these
04:26price hikes and, obviously, the president's tariffs. What do you have to say to Jersey families
04:30who are struggling with higher costs and how you look at how they should forecast themselves for
04:34their own families? We're committed to returning inflation sustainably to 2% and keeping it there
04:41in the long run. And what we're doing now is, you know, we had cut rates by 100 basis points,
04:47so they've come down quite a bit. And, you know, when the time is right, I expect that that will
04:53continue. And that will depend on economic factors, you know, in the coming
04:59longer.
05:06If you have any questions, you'll see if you can get started.
05:08Please note that there is no doubt about where you're going, you know, in the coming
05:14day and knowing where you're going. So, you'll definitely won't keep the rates
05:15of going down and knowing where you are at the end of the day. So, let's have a big
05:16view of what you're going to call when you're going to keep the rates of anxiety.
05:17So, you know, this is a lot of people that are mostly in the coming
05:19days. So, a lot of people you're going to have a lot of things like thank you for
05:20any of the most of the level of the last thing that was on. And今,
05:22you're going to keep a big deal with your health. And then,
05:23I think you're going to find a lot of success. And if you

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