- 7/3/2025
When the sky turns violent, four women refuse to run.
In the heart of a deadly storm, four mothers fight to protect their families, their town, and each other. Bound by courage, tested by nature — their strength becomes the only shelter left.
In the heart of a deadly storm, four mothers fight to protect their families, their town, and each other. Bound by courage, tested by nature — their strength becomes the only shelter left.
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00:00:00Aeons is about first love, but it's also a meditation on queer
00:00:29culture, it's about Ireland, it's about our past and our present, it's about, ugh, fuck off, that's fucking shit.
00:00:46I wanted to write about first love. I wanted to write about something that young readers could
00:00:54connect with in a way that was familiar and raw and heartfelt, that would validate their feelings.
00:01:06That's awful, don't tell that. It's about, the book is about. I think the book is about.
00:01:22I think the book is about. We hope you're keeping well, Alma. We're getting all these
00:01:29sons of George ready for this lot. It takes us a bit longer to do with you here cracking the
00:01:34whiff. The lads are always asking after you, and where is Alma's bolognate? That's all we hear
00:01:39every day. More than there has been here some of the day, I see. I hear the candy for you
00:01:43lab. We often say dance. Power. And social structure. And I'm coming. Social structure.
00:01:55And then within the subtext of the story we're also exploring issues of postcolonial conflicts
00:02:00in Ireland, the legacy of the Catholic Church, and the growth of a queer culture within a regressive
00:02:04society. Okay, okay. All right, all right. Jesus Christ, I'm going to throw that bell away.
00:02:10I heard you the first time. Morning. What? Oh my God, the face. Okay. I don't know, we got our lovely
00:02:25lilac number, some peachy peach, or the most gorgeous hue of aquamarine you ever have seen.
00:02:30If this is not to your satisfaction, we could, I don't know, go miss Scarlet and take a sewing
00:02:34machine to this curtain. The blue, of course, is the blue. Yeah.
00:02:39All right. All right, here we go. Ready? One, two, three.
00:02:49I'll just give him a minute. Patience, patience. Okay.
00:02:52That's much better.
00:03:02That's much better.
00:03:05Good morning, Edward. Oh my God. She speaks. Finally. Welcome to the Land of the Eleven.
00:03:20If you listen to this show, you know how important a good night's sleep is to both myself and...
00:03:37Thirty seconds, Edward. That's why we use float mattresses...
00:03:41Be confident.
00:03:43Mom.
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00:03:47All across Chicago, this is KW 107 FM...
00:03:50The hell, stop looking at me.
00:03:52Our next guest is the Irish novelist, Edward Brady, whose debut novel, Eons, explores a complex friendship and gay relationship between two young men.
00:04:04Sorry.
00:04:05Edward, thanks for being here.
00:04:10Thanks for having me.
00:04:11Great. So, your novel was first published in 2018 in Ireland and the UK, I believe.
00:04:17But it's only now being picked up internationally.
00:04:20And all because of a sudden surge in young readers who discovered the novel through TikTok.
00:04:24Yeah, I know it's crazy, but that's how it happened.
00:04:26It's a beautiful read, Edward, I have to say.
00:04:30Now, tell us about Kian and where we find him at the start of the story.
00:04:34Well, he's sort of an awkward, unformed teenager when we meet him.
00:04:39He's trapped in a small Irish town, struggling with his identity, and then he meets a sort of mercurial English boy,
00:04:44and we follow their relationship over the next ten years.
00:04:46So, it's a love story about these two young gay men, but it's also an out-of-love story.
00:04:50And then there's those things thematically.
00:04:53Slow down, Edward.
00:04:57Hello?
00:04:58They will not be able to understand. You talk fast.
00:05:01Please try and be slower. They are American and your oxen will confuse them.
00:05:07Edward, are you still with him?
00:05:14Edward, if you were going any slower, we would go back in time.
00:05:19Please don't start.
00:05:24Oh, why do you keep pointing at every turn?
00:05:26I know where we're going, okay? I've been driving there for a year.
00:05:29What? We're not going to be lazy.
00:05:31What? We're not going to be lazy.
00:05:32What? We're not going to be lazy.
00:05:33Time, we're just waiting to call someone only.
00:05:43Thinking, laughing, breaking time and healing.
00:05:49And then begins this morning, this is where you are.
00:05:54Dancing, sleeping, laughing, breaking down, and healing.
00:06:02The physio says if she doesn't start getting some exercise, she'll be in a chair in six months.
00:06:06She won't fucking listen. Talking to the wogadoobie.
00:06:09All she wants to do is smoke fags and watch telly.
00:06:12She'll be flat destroyed.
00:06:15I had the guards over with me on Tuesday.
00:06:17Why?
00:06:19Because my one keeps turning up a week for people she doesn't even know.
00:06:22One of the families reported her to the guards.
00:06:24They thought she was in robbing a dead man's watch.
00:06:26But what was she doing?
00:06:28Trying to put fucking rosary beads into the casky.
00:06:31Why?
00:06:32I don't know.
00:06:33She thinks she's doing the Lord's work, I suppose.
00:06:38Look at their sign, man.
00:06:40Ty has a map passed.
00:06:42She did. I think it got rough at the end.
00:06:44Jesus Christ, he looks wrecked.
00:06:48Hi.
00:06:50I can't end up looking like that.
00:06:52Certainly not with all that's been spent on Botox.
00:06:54Don't be telling people me business.
00:06:56Eh, Jakin, he's not blind.
00:07:00Gorge.
00:07:01Is it?
00:07:02Years younger.
00:07:03Thanks, Edward.
00:07:04I still think you're one lip filler away from ending up like Nicky Rourke in The Wrestler.
00:07:08Will you stop being such a cunty fuck, please?
00:07:10I'm not.
00:07:11No, you are.
00:07:12What's wrong with you?
00:07:13Eh, this?
00:07:15I can't take it anymore.
00:07:17It's the guys in Maspalomas.
00:07:18Hola chicas!
00:07:19We're sending you a message to say hi to you and Les Madres.
00:07:20Say hi to the boys!
00:07:21We wish you guys!
00:07:22Oh, it's the guys in Maspedalmas.
00:07:27Sending you a message to say hi to you and Les Madres.
00:07:31Say hi to the boys!
00:07:33We wish you guys!
00:07:35We wish you were here and we'll see you all really, really soon.
00:07:39That used to be us.
00:07:42Ready? Two wheels.
00:07:52Okay?
00:08:06The publishers are talking about doing this, doing a big release for the book in America.
00:08:27I know they think the reviews are going to be good and that it has a shot.
00:08:33They've asked me to go over there for a book tour.
00:08:36Are you going to do it?
00:08:43What? How can I?
00:08:45Okay.
00:08:46Who am I supposed to leave man with for two weeks?
00:08:48I can think of a number of people.
00:08:50Two weeks is nothing.
00:08:51Two weeks is not nothing for an 81-year-old woman recovering from a stroke.
00:08:54I can't just dump her with anyone.
00:08:56No, I don't say residential care.
00:08:57Fine.
00:08:58I'm not going to argue with you about that again.
00:09:00Good.
00:09:01Look, Edward, I know how difficult it is to be in a codependent relationship with a demanding woman.
00:09:05I mean, when I think about my situation with Audrey and all of the stuff...
00:09:07Oh, my God.
00:09:08Oh, my God.
00:09:09Are you actually going to try and segue into that again?
00:09:10I won't.
00:09:11It's not the same thing.
00:09:12I came out when I was 17.
00:09:13I am simply trying to draw a parallel between you, you know, avoiding your destiny as an artist
00:09:18and me avoiding my destiny as an out gay man.
00:09:21Oh, God.
00:09:22Oh, right.
00:09:23No need to be so dramatic.
00:09:24Can we just focus on me today?
00:09:26Of course.
00:09:27Thanks.
00:09:29It's not professional.
00:09:30Even though you haven't paid me in five years.
00:09:34I'm also interested at the moment in writing about Ireland's Generation X, the Generation X
00:09:41I don't know, like a ringing in the ears.
00:10:09It's probably stress headaches.
00:10:11Edward gets them, don't you?
00:10:14Hello?
00:10:15He's not listening to you.
00:10:17Too busy staring at Raff for the last 20 minutes.
00:10:20Here, I need Netflix recommendations for Jean.
00:10:23Hmm.
00:10:24Has she seen Unorthodox?
00:10:25She only likes stuff with loads of killing in it.
00:10:27Uh, Dexter.
00:10:28She's seen it.
00:10:29Love, hey.
00:10:30Seen it.
00:10:31Has she seen Cain?
00:10:32Yeah.
00:10:33Gangs of London.
00:10:34Oh, right, Jesus. Sorry I asked.
00:10:35What the fuck's wrong with you?
00:10:36I'm just overwhelmed, like, sorry.
00:10:38You need to start standing up for yourself.
00:10:40Doesn't he?
00:10:41It gets easier.
00:10:43When?
00:10:44When?
00:10:45Okay.
00:10:46I'm ending this conversation now.
00:10:49See ya.
00:10:50Wait, I didn't get to tell you about the Grindr channel.
00:10:53Check.
00:11:15Wake up.
00:11:16She's ready for bed.
00:11:17Thanks.
00:11:18When are the reviews coming?
00:11:19I don't know.
00:11:20I don't know.
00:11:21Tomorrow, maybe.
00:11:22Exciting.
00:11:23It'll be grand.
00:11:24So, how's things with you?
00:11:25Good.
00:11:26We found an apartment in Auberkampf that we can afford.
00:11:27Wow, that's great.
00:11:28I know.
00:11:29How's Richard, is he excited?
00:11:30Ridiculously excited.
00:11:31Sometimes it's so exhausting, you know.
00:11:32I always wanted to be doing things.
00:11:33Hiking, walking.
00:11:34I hate that.
00:11:35I'm like chicken.
00:11:36I just got in from work.
00:11:37All I wanna do is go to bed and watch Netflix.
00:11:39Wow, that's great.
00:11:41I know.
00:11:42How's Richard, is he excited?
00:11:44Ridiculously excited.
00:11:47Sometimes it's so exhausting, you know.
00:11:49Always wants to be doing things.
00:11:51Hiking, walking.
00:11:53I hate that.
00:11:54I'm like chicken.
00:11:56I just got in from work.
00:11:57All I want to do is go to bed and watch Netflix.
00:12:04I always liked this.
00:12:06Like what?
00:12:08Quiet.
00:12:09Duh.
00:12:10Well, you certainly weren't quiet when I first met you.
00:12:14You were pretty insufferable if memory serves.
00:12:17What's right?
00:12:18It weren't.
00:12:19You fucking loved the sound of your own voice.
00:12:27See you later.
00:12:30Bye.
00:12:32Oh my god, you're driving me crazy.
00:12:38Edward, it's my job to know how to handle these things.
00:12:41I mean, they're disappointed.
00:12:43You're the writer and they want you out there.
00:12:45But they understand your situation with Alma.
00:12:47They say what any of the events were.
00:12:50Are you sure you want to know?
00:12:52Go on, I know what you're dying to tell me.
00:12:54Okay, well, I can't remember all of them.
00:12:56But I know there was talk of John Green hosting a Q&A with you at Powell's in Portland.
00:13:03Fuck off.
00:13:04Mm-hmm.
00:13:05You asked?
00:13:06Okay, I'm going to forward the time to review to you as soon as it lands.
00:13:10Just remember, whichever way it goes, it is a hit with the people that you wrote it for.
00:13:15Okay.
00:13:16All right.
00:13:17Night-night.
00:13:18Night.
00:13:27Look at that.
00:13:28That's an improvement.
00:13:30I think we've found my vocation.
00:13:33Look at these girls.
00:13:35You know, I was thinking that it might be quite nice to go and see Andrew and the girls in London, wouldn't it?
00:13:50I mean, you know, you haven't seen them for ages.
00:13:52The girls are getting big.
00:13:53They'd love to see you.
00:13:54So, I was thinking that I could take you over there.
00:13:58And then you could stay with them for a few weeks.
00:14:05It's too hard.
00:14:07It's not too hard, ma'am.
00:14:09Andrew can manage.
00:14:10Okay, and I'll show him exactly how you like everything done and we can go through everything with him before we get-
00:14:15Too much for him with the new baby.
00:14:31Why don't you come and stay too?
00:14:33We could have a nice holiday there.
00:14:35Well, it's not really a holiday for me, is it?
00:14:39Why?
00:14:40Because, well, okay, because what if I want to go and meet a nice man?
00:14:44Hmm?
00:14:45Can't do that with all you's around, can I?
00:14:46Fucking destined to be single forever.
00:14:49You can meet a nice man on your phone any time.
00:14:54Well, I can meet a nice man on my phone any time.
00:14:57Right.
00:14:58And where would I bring him?
00:14:59Why bring him here?
00:15:01What to meet you?
00:15:02Okay.
00:15:03Well, that's not going to work.
00:15:05It'd probably scare him away with your beady eyes.
00:15:08Okay.
00:15:09One, two, three.
00:15:10Yeah.
00:15:11Okay.
00:15:12One, two, three.
00:15:13One, two, three.
00:15:21One, two, three.
00:15:31It's got a hint of salmon clove and a bit of nutmeg.
00:15:54We begin with a vivid description of a 17-year-old kid debilitating social.
00:15:58Brady's prose are beautifully old-fashioned and acerbic.
00:16:01He manages to evoke the spirit of Faulkner.
00:16:03With eons, Mr Brady is speaking to young people about something deeply personal and real.
00:16:08And I can see why young readers are devoted to it.
00:16:28They call you and say,
00:16:31Oh, do you know, are they always down below there with black and white stripes?
00:16:35Edward?
00:16:37Hi, Katie.
00:16:38You want to follow me?
00:16:39Yeah.
00:16:40You want to talk about your mum, Alma?
00:16:42Yeah.
00:16:43So it would be for a really short-term stay.
00:16:45It would be like two weeks at most.
00:16:47Of course.
00:16:48Of course.
00:16:49I'm sure you want to be at home with her yourself, but you have to live too.
00:16:53Look, why don't you start a conversation with mum and we'll see where we go from there.
00:17:02Are you okay?
00:17:04Edward?
00:17:05Yeah.
00:17:06So if I were to...
00:17:07I'm so sorry.
00:17:08I feel like I can't breathe or something.
00:17:09Okay.
00:17:10We'll just take it nice and easy.
00:17:11I feel a bit dizzy or something.
00:17:12You want to maybe have a seat?
00:17:13Yeah, if I could have a seat.
00:17:14Guys, can I get some assistance in the long corridor, please?
00:17:15Maybe a glass of water as well?
00:17:16I actually feel kind of pain when sitting is bad.
00:17:17It feels like...
00:17:18Maybe...
00:17:19Edward, maybe?
00:17:20I should have to get this.
00:17:21What if I could have a seat?
00:17:22I don't know.
00:17:23You want to be a bit dizzy or something?
00:17:24You want to maybe have a seat?
00:17:25Yeah, if I could have a seat.
00:17:26Guys, can I get some assistance in the long corridor, please?
00:17:27Maybe a glass of water as well?
00:17:28I actually feel kind of pain when sitting is bad.
00:17:29It feels like...
00:17:30Maybe...
00:17:31Edward, maybe?
00:17:32Constance was named the third in command in the Irish citizen army...
00:17:36Did you get this...
00:17:37Hey, Siri!
00:17:38Stop!
00:17:39Edward!
00:17:41I told the publishers I'd do the book tour and now I'm parked outside Hamilton Lodge
00:17:44and I just had a full-on panic attack in front of the manager.
00:17:47I don't think I can do this.
00:17:49Just stay on course.
00:17:51What? I'm sorry. You should see this place.
00:17:53It's cold and sterile and everything smells like bleach.
00:17:56Edward.
00:17:56You're hideous.
00:17:57You've been looking after other people for five years.
00:18:00First your father and now Alma.
00:18:03Repeat after me.
00:18:04I'm going to stop taking care of other people
00:18:07and start taking care of myself.
00:18:11I'm going to stop taking care of other people.
00:18:12I'm going to stop taking care of myself.
00:18:14Good.
00:18:15Now, go home and have a talk with Alma.
00:18:17Goodbye.
00:18:19What is wrong with you?
00:18:29Um, please, it's only a short-term stay for a couple of weeks.
00:18:32I promise when it's finished, we'll call on a long holiday together.
00:18:37Maybe we can visit Andrew and the kids in London
00:18:39or hire a car and go driving down the south of France.
00:18:43I know you're always saying you wanted to do that.
00:18:45Well, now we can.
00:18:46Open top, wind in our hair.
00:18:48Just me and you.
00:18:53Hey, ma'am.
00:18:55I've got the sourdough and I've got the brie that you like
00:18:58and I've got some really exciting news.
00:19:02There's a couple of things we have to talk about first,
00:19:03but I don't want you to freak out.
00:19:04Like, I take this whole rail.
00:19:07But that's not really...
00:19:08It's a little bit of you, isn't it?
00:19:10It's a little bit of me, all right.
00:19:11Explain everything.
00:19:12And what it was like working to me.
00:19:14Well, I'm going to say, straight up,
00:19:15Janine give us all an education this week.
00:19:17Hello?
00:19:17Hello?
00:19:17Hi, Edward.
00:19:38It's Colm.
00:19:38I'm Billy.
00:19:39We've hit rock bottom, pal.
00:19:42There's no easy way to say this,
00:19:44so we're just going to say it.
00:19:46We've decided to run away to Maspaloma's pride
00:19:48for three days and leave our mams with you.
00:19:51We know what we're doing is abominable,
00:19:53but we just can't cope anymore.
00:19:56Sure, on the outside,
00:19:57we always look like we have it together,
00:19:58but on the inside,
00:20:00we're a mess.
00:20:03It's the monotony, Edward.
00:20:06If we don't get away, honestly,
00:20:08we might die.
00:20:11All we're asking for is three nights.
00:20:14Just give them a bed and keep them fed and watered.
00:20:16That's it.
00:20:18We know we're the worst.
00:20:22We hope he can forgive us.
00:20:24Sorry.
00:20:24This is the universe taking a shit on me
00:20:29because I was about to do something really selfish.
00:20:31This is your friends taking a shit on you
00:20:33because you're an obliger.
00:20:36Huh.
00:20:37Just put your foot down and say no.
00:20:39They're already on a plane to Gran Canaria.
00:20:41I mean, who does that?
00:20:42Who abandons their mothers
00:20:43to go to fucking Maspaloma's pride, of all things?
00:20:46You know what?
00:20:47It's my own fault for staying friends,
00:20:49but then they let me down all the time
00:20:50and I just keep letting it go
00:20:51and thinking it's a one-off.
00:20:52I don't know why
00:20:54I seem to want to keep making the same mistake with people
00:20:57and expecting a different outcome.
00:20:58It's the fucking definition of madness.
00:20:59From all over the world, we travel to be one.
00:21:03Hello?
00:21:04Uh, nothing's changed, Edward.
00:21:06Just stay focused on top dash.
00:21:09Um, I'm preparing for the book tour.
00:21:10I don't know.
00:21:11I think the book tour's a bad idea now.
00:21:12Stop.
00:21:13Focus.
00:21:14This is your future.
00:21:16Bye.
00:21:17Bye.
00:21:19To find adventure.
00:21:22To find pride.
00:21:27Come and join the adventure.
00:21:35This can only happen to you.
00:21:37Thanks.
00:21:39Look, I'm, I can be here all the time.
00:21:41I'll close your day off.
00:21:43What about Richard?
00:21:44You won't mind.
00:21:46You can pay me double.
00:21:46Okay, I'm out of here.
00:21:52And call me if you need anything.
00:21:53Okay, okay, bye.
00:21:55I need you tomorrow.
00:21:56So, the trick is, as well, you know, I had this conversation all the time, my clients, about length.
00:22:04The trick is, if you use this, a long dresser to be, two to short for free, cool for left fabric, and more fitted for it, this is what you do.
00:22:11This is what I'm doing.
00:22:12So, again, little things like...
00:22:14Hi, ladies.
00:22:15Sorry, if I had to, uh...
00:22:17So, uh, I'm Edward.
00:22:22Uh, this is my mom, Alma, that you know from Mass.
00:22:25Here.
00:22:26It's only small.
00:22:28My son rushed me out of the shop before I could find anything.
00:22:32Oh, that's a lasagna.
00:22:33That's very kind.
00:22:34There's a cheesecake in there, as well.
00:22:36Okay, okay, maybe we could have the cheesecake with our tea.
00:22:38I fast on a Wednesday.
00:22:40Oh.
00:22:40It's too much.
00:22:41They have to go.
00:22:42No, we could...
00:22:43We're just gonna have some tea, and then we can all just...
00:22:47Hey.
00:22:50Hi.
00:22:51Hi.
00:22:51Hi.
00:22:53Where are we?
00:22:54So, you can adjust to kind of think...
00:22:57Yeah, things like that.
00:22:58My son, I love you.
00:22:58How do you feel that?
00:22:59My son, I love you.
00:23:00How do you feel that?
00:23:00What do you feel that?
00:23:01One of them has a building problem, and they're with a woman who suffers with their nerves.
00:23:05Those who suffer with their nerves.
00:23:06No.
00:23:07Please, Edward.
00:23:08You've already got three women.
00:23:09We're not going to make it.
00:23:10Shh, shh, shh.
00:23:10They're listening to us.
00:23:13The listeners are just going to the kitchen.
00:23:16Ten minutes ago, you were calling me an obliger.
00:23:18I know.
00:23:19I'm saying no, sorry.
00:23:20Please, Edward.
00:23:21No.
00:23:21I'm a 53-year-old gay man with an ex-wife and a family who despise me.
00:23:25I'm living with my mother.
00:23:27You know the only time I ever get messages on Grindr?
00:23:28It's if I use a naked picture of my torso and the username Daddy, spelled D-A-D-D-I.
00:23:33Look, I think that you're looking at all the wrong places.
00:23:35If I go on a date, I spend the whole time looking over my shoulder, terrified that somebody from my own life is going to see me.
00:23:42This is a chance for me to meet other men like me.
00:23:45Dermot, you are not going to meet men like you at Mass Paloma's Pride.
00:23:48Trust me.
00:23:48Please, Edward.
00:23:49I need this.
00:23:58Don't worry about that.
00:23:59It pops right open.
00:24:00All of her clothes are in the roll away.
00:24:02And I put her iPad in there, too.
00:24:03You know, she's never off the bloody thing.
00:24:05All of her meals are in the Tupperware.
00:24:06No dairy, no gluten, no red meat.
00:24:09Excuse me.
00:24:10Can I get that bag for you, please?
00:24:11Now, all the medication is written down here, but it's pretty straightforward.
00:24:14And that really is just about everything.
00:24:15Oh, she might put you back on the food, but if she does, just hold for her.
00:24:18And, you know, don't worry.
00:24:20She's an absolute dode.
00:24:21You're going to love her.
00:24:24Okay.
00:24:25Go, go, go.
00:24:25Go, go, go.
00:24:39Edward.
00:24:42Edward.
00:24:46Edward.
00:24:48Edward, I need you, please.
00:24:57Okay, blankets, blankets.
00:25:00No.
00:25:04Ma'am, you have got to stop.
00:25:06I want my pillows.
00:25:08They need pillows, too.
00:25:10Ma'am, we take those pillows off your bed every night and stack them on that chair.
00:25:13Is the man putting kids on my bed?
00:25:15Look, just give me one second, Ma'am, okay?
00:25:17My son has abandoned me with strangers.
00:25:22Everything okay in here, Jean?
00:25:24That mattress is very hard.
00:25:26Okay, well, I can swap you up with Ma'am if you want.
00:25:28The mattress is much softer than the spare room.
00:25:29I know.
00:25:30Apparently, I need minding now.
00:25:33He says he's worried about my vertigo.
00:25:35Well, I don't know.
00:25:40Is it clean?
00:25:43Yes.
00:25:44Yes, it's clean.
00:25:46You're all right.
00:25:47Stay where I am.
00:25:48I have no idea who they are.
00:25:50All I know is they're crammed into his little house like sardines.
00:25:57Edward, you are being a doormat.
00:25:59You have no wife, Edward.
00:26:01No.
00:26:01Oh, sure.
00:26:02I play for the same team as your, Billy.
00:26:04Oh.
00:26:08Can I get a sup of water in that?
00:26:10Yeah, of course.
00:26:11Edward Brady.
00:26:13Just give me one minute, Ma'am.
00:26:14Please.
00:26:17Oh, yeah, water.
00:26:18Water.
00:26:22I'm sorry.
00:26:22I'm so sorry.
00:26:25Can I get you water in a couple of minutes?
00:26:28Jude, do you need any blankets or...
00:26:29Edward, I need you to leave.
00:26:30You poor man.
00:26:32Yeah.
00:26:33Actually, can I take that pillow back?
00:26:36No.
00:26:36Excuse me.
00:26:38Say hello to Amir.
00:26:39Hi, Edward.
00:26:40Hello.
00:26:41Hello, Amir.
00:26:42Edward.
00:26:42That's it.
00:26:43I'm going now, my love.
00:26:45My son told me you're a novelist.
00:26:48I downloaded your next book onto my Kindle.
00:26:50I'm about to start it.
00:26:51Oh, I hope you like it.
00:26:52Edward.
00:26:52Hey, Siri.
00:26:54Play Eons by Edward Brady.
00:26:56Edward.
00:26:58Playing Eons by Edward Brady.
00:27:02Keen castigated himself silently,
00:27:04took giant slugs of the poisonous blue alcohol poppy held onto for dear life.
00:27:08You were never cool.
00:27:10Not like these, Kate.
00:27:11Not really.
00:27:12I want my pillows.
00:27:14I'm just going to take that pillow back,
00:27:15and I'll be back in two seconds, okay?
00:27:17Thank you, Ma'am.
00:27:17Thank you, Ma'am.
00:27:18That is absolutely outrageous.
00:27:22Look, we're going to have to make this work, okay?
00:27:24Ma'am.
00:27:27Ma'am.
00:27:28Can I get my water, please?
00:27:32I'm going to have to bring a sleeping bag in here.
00:27:35Is that okay?
00:27:37Well, where am I going to sleep?
00:27:39Standing by, Edward.
00:27:51Joining me all the way from Ireland is YA novelist Edward Brady,
00:27:54here to talk about his new book, Eons,
00:27:57which is releasing here in the States.
00:27:58It's already out in Ireland.
00:27:59Thank you so much for joining us.
00:28:00How are you doing?
00:28:01Oh, thanks.
00:28:02Thanks for having me.
00:28:03I'm in a car.
00:28:04I'm sorry.
00:28:05I'm in a car.
00:28:06It's a long story.
00:28:08You know what?
00:28:09That's all good.
00:28:09So let's talk about Eons.
00:28:11It's a love story about two young men.
00:28:14Yeah, yeah, that's right,
00:28:15and it charts their relationship over the next 10 years,
00:28:18you know, the sort of highs and lows,
00:28:19and it's, you know, it is a love story,
00:28:25but it's also not a love story.
00:28:27It's an out-of-love story.
00:28:29And I don't know if that makes sense,
00:28:31but it's...
00:28:32Because so much of the story is then...
00:28:33I think the characters, they...
00:28:34Sorry?
00:28:34No, go ahead.
00:28:36Go ahead.
00:28:39Yeah, they got...
00:28:40I think, you know, it's more than a love story.
00:28:42It's about social structure and identity
00:28:45and, you know, just what it must be like
00:28:48to be trapped inside a depressed country,
00:28:53you know, that was once colonized.
00:28:56Okay.
00:28:57Well, that's great.
00:28:58Edward Brady, thanks so much for joining us on the show.
00:29:00Listen, thank you.
00:29:01Thank you so much for having me.
00:29:03Okay.
00:29:04Bye-bye.
00:29:04Bye-bye.
00:29:04Good morning, St. Paul's Orthopedic.
00:29:17Hi, can I speak to Raphael Dumont, please?
00:29:20He's our physio.
00:29:21One moment.
00:29:21Ralph, hey, help.
00:29:23Help, you've got to help me.
00:29:24They've all got appointments this morning and I've got no way to travel them there.
00:29:29All right, I can't.
00:29:29I can't.
00:29:30There's five of us.
00:29:31We won't want to fit in their car with, you know, with the wheelchair.
00:29:34Ralph, what happened?
00:29:35Can I walk, please?
00:29:36Ralph, just see if you can get the bus.
00:29:37It's fine, it's fine.
00:29:44Ladies, may I present to you Lady Alma von Grady?
00:29:52Man wants to put on her Sunday best for this.
00:29:57Okay.
00:29:59Who's hungry?
00:30:00Me.
00:30:01Good.
00:30:01Do you want to join us, Jean?
00:30:03No.
00:30:04No.
00:30:07I just thought it might be nice if we all lay together.
00:30:14Is it the N or the O that's confusing?
00:30:18Will your son make us breakfast?
00:30:23We'll not have time.
00:30:30He has a lot of work today.
00:30:32He is a writer.
00:30:36What does your son do?
00:30:37Well, he's a psychotherapist.
00:30:39Her son is one of his clients.
00:30:44Why does your son need therapy?
00:30:49For fuck's sakes.
00:30:52Do you need a hand or...
00:30:54Okay.
00:30:54Okay, breakfast.
00:31:02How does omelette with spinach and feta cheese sound?
00:31:07No?
00:31:08Cornflakes will do me.
00:31:10Oh, I don't think we have those.
00:31:11What sort of a house doesn't have cereal?
00:31:13Could you go to the shops?
00:31:15Um, I...
00:31:15Okay, sure.
00:31:16Too far.
00:31:17No, no, ma'am.
00:31:18It's 60 seconds away.
00:31:19Does anyone else need anything?
00:31:20I'd like sausages.
00:31:22Okay.
00:31:22A scone, please.
00:31:23Okay, sausages, scone.
00:31:25Give him money.
00:31:26I can...
00:31:26Ma'am, ma'am.
00:31:27No, I can manage.
00:31:32It's...
00:31:32I can...
00:31:32Okay.
00:31:34Two minutes.
00:31:37Well, it's two minutes away.
00:31:38Don't worry about it.
00:31:38It's just two minutes away.
00:31:39What happened?
00:31:49So, I think, like, we've seen changes in many species in their populations, and, say, with
00:31:54baronodes, well, the baronodes are very much a bird of farmland.
00:31:56So, when we look, you know, there's been huge changes in the Irish countryside, you know,
00:31:59identification of baronodes, say, you know, lots of hedgerows, even changes to older
00:32:03start farm buildings, where baronodes would have, you know, they're very much, as their
00:32:07name implies, a bird associated with baronodes.
00:32:09So, when we look at the baronodes, we've been investigating from the farm buildings,
00:32:12but as...
00:32:13Hey, uh, give me a call.
00:32:23The meeting is set for 12, I've sent you a link.
00:32:25Also, like, have you spoken to Alma yet, because, uh, we...
00:32:29Okay, let's get this breakfast going.
00:32:39Um, and then maybe after breakfast, you and I could talk about, um, you know, something...
00:32:46I am hungry.
00:32:47Uh, something that might be happening that's really exciting...
00:32:49I am hungry.
00:32:50...with my work.
00:32:51So, if we could get a chance to talk about it.
00:32:52I am hungry.
00:32:53Okay, okay, Jesus Christ.
00:32:54Okay.
00:32:55I am hungry.
00:32:58I am hungry.
00:32:59I am hungry.
00:33:00I need to talk to you about this thing that might happen and it's it's only an idea now
00:33:11so don't freak out. Why are you in therapy? What? Who told you I was in therapy? I don't
00:33:22know ma'am okay I'm a writer I'm neurotic. Were you abused? No. No I wasn't abused. Jesus.
00:33:37Are you depressed? No I'm not depressed. Hello is the man bringing me to mass?
00:33:44I am sick of them. I want to go to bed. What are you talking about? You just got up.
00:34:00You're right. They are a nightmare. So greedy and rude. Maybe we should just tell them to go home.
00:34:09And just let them fend for themselves.
00:34:19We can do it together. Okay. Okay. What if that's what you think?
00:34:27Hi Edward. I hope he's behaving himself. Guess what?
00:34:33It's the hot guy from the airplane. He'd be very proud of me. I'm going to be amazed her.
00:34:40Look at this. What are you doing now? Look at this. Oh my god.
00:34:58Okay. We dropped Maud off at the funeral first and then me and Jean go to the hospital.
00:35:02Then we drop Rosie off at her book club. Rath brings mom to her hair appointment and then I can get back in time
00:35:07for my work call. Okay. Sound good to everyone?
00:35:10What? Well, Rath can bring you. Okay. I can't drive the bus.
00:35:14Someone's got to go with Jean. So, okay. Fine. Fine. Okay.
00:35:16We dropped Maud off at the funeral first and then we all go and wait with Jean at the hospital
00:35:20and then I can bring mom to her hair appointment.
00:35:23Happy? Okay. That's what we'll do. That's what we'll do.
00:35:26Okay. Change of plan. That can just go away.
00:35:29Hi Edward. Drive time.
00:35:32Edward, I need to talk to you about something that's coming up with the publishers.
00:35:38They have listened back to radio interviews and they're concerned with how you're coming across.
00:35:42You need to stop talking about social structures and colonization because no teenager is going to buy this book based on subtext.
00:35:50Edward, don't laugh.
00:35:51See, I met these really nice guys from Ghent, like these bears, you know, like hairy gay men.
00:35:59They're super nice and they invited me to go clubbing tonight.
00:36:02They gave me this to wear, but I mean, do you think this is appropriate?
00:36:06I feel stupid. I feel sexy.
00:36:09Okay. Mind the step. Mind the step.
00:36:12I don't know what you said, how much I got in with me for.
00:36:31I'm not an invalid.
00:36:33How do I stop it?
00:36:34Just...
00:36:35There you go.
00:36:38Thank you. It's my boyfriend, Amir.
00:36:41Yeah. You'll think I've run off with someone else now.
00:36:45He's the jealous type.
00:36:47Nice.
00:36:48I found it impossible to have a relationship with an Irishman.
00:36:50Yeah. Me too.
00:36:52Irishmen are so frustrating.
00:36:54In one minute they're all over you, in the next they're...
00:36:57They've gone.
00:36:59I've been there.
00:37:01Do you have a significant other?
00:37:03I have a boyfriend.
00:37:05Richard.
00:37:06Richard.
00:37:06He's Dutch.
00:37:07Oh.
00:37:09I have lots of gay friends.
00:37:11Two of my best friends, Tim and Ian, they have an antiques business.
00:37:15I remember walking into their shop in Harold's Cross 20 years ago and saying,
00:37:19Do you know where I could find a poof?
00:37:22And Tim opened his arms wide and said,
00:37:25Darling, will this poof do?
00:37:27Sweet Jesus.
00:37:30Jean?
00:37:31Jean.
00:37:48Jean.
00:37:49Jean.
00:37:49Jean, I want you to stand, not holding on to the bar for two minutes.
00:38:01It's only two minutes and the bar is right there if you need it.
00:38:04Okay?
00:38:07Okay.
00:38:08And then relax.
00:38:31Okay.
00:38:32Okay.
00:38:32Jane, we both know what's needed here.
00:38:38Think about the amount of freedom a worker would give you.
00:38:41Not having to rely on other people.
00:38:49Jean.
00:38:50Do you need a hand, Jean?
00:38:59No.
00:39:04Just excuse me one moment.
00:39:06I'll just take these empties with me.
00:39:09Take these empties with me.
00:39:10Thank you so much, Sam.
00:39:12She's...
00:39:12Are you okay for everything, Carl?
00:39:17Are you okay, Nadine?
00:39:25Is there anything I can do there?
00:39:26Oh, I'm okay.
00:39:30Hey.
00:39:31Hey, Maud.
00:39:32Hey.
00:39:32You ready to go?
00:39:33Oh.
00:39:34Dry these for me.
00:39:36What?
00:39:36I can't.
00:39:37No, Maud.
00:39:38Just wait a minute.
00:39:42Sorry.
00:39:43Who is that woman?
00:39:47Maud.
00:39:48Was she a friend of my granddad's?
00:39:53Uh.
00:39:55Uh.
00:39:56Excuse me.
00:39:58Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for sinners now that they are for death to me.
00:40:02Glory which is the Father and the Son and the Holy Ghost.
00:40:05As it was in the beginning, is now or never shall be.
00:40:07Word with our hand, amain.
00:40:09And God bless you.
00:40:11You've been very good.
00:40:12What?
00:40:12We have to go.
00:40:12This is Edward.
00:40:14Hello.
00:40:15Hi.
00:40:15Betty Byrd.
00:40:16Oh, I'm so sorry.
00:40:21I know.
00:40:25I'm just going to have to come.
00:40:26I'm sorry.
00:40:27I'm so sorry.
00:40:27My publishers are calling me.
00:40:28So I have to go.
00:40:29Come on.
00:40:31Please.
00:40:32I have to go.
00:40:33Stacy, I really can't talk now.
00:40:34I'm in the middle of something.
00:40:35Okay, don't freak out.
00:40:37The meeting is being pushed and we've got a bit of a problem.
00:40:42Look, they sent me a list of things they want you to consider, so brace yourself.
00:40:47Number one, they think your synopsis is way too long.
00:40:50Number two, they think your voice is...
00:40:51Number three.
00:40:52They want you to...
00:40:53Number four, you're promoting a gay novel at a time when they're burning LGBT books in this country.
00:40:58Remember your readers are sophisticated.
00:41:00Edward, you can't cope.
00:41:02I can't...
00:41:02Ma'am, please.
00:41:03Please stop, please.
00:41:04I'm sorry to cause you trouble.
00:41:06No, it's that you didn't, Maude.
00:41:07It's fine.
00:41:07It's totally fine.
00:41:08Who was your meeting supposed to be with?
00:41:11Um, my publicist.
00:41:12It's about promoting my book in America.
00:41:15He is a very important writer, but gets so nervous before his meetings.
00:41:19Why do you get nervous?
00:41:20I don't.
00:41:21I don't get nervous.
00:41:22You should get Dermot to prescribe some anti-anxiety medication.
00:41:26Yes, yes.
00:41:26A therapist myself.
00:41:28I don't need anti-anxiety medication.
00:41:31Well, I take a half-cheeky if I'm flying anywhere and it's not a bother on me then.
00:41:36Well, I mean, I get that because if you don't like flying, but I don't need anti-anxiety medication.
00:41:40It's just I don't like having meetings, which is completely normal.
00:41:44Why?
00:41:44Because I don't like talking to people.
00:41:47That's...
00:41:47I like being on my own.
00:41:49Weird.
00:41:49It's not...
00:41:50It's not weird, ma'am.
00:41:52What was his father like?
00:41:54Weird.
00:41:55Ma'am!
00:41:57You are just like your dad.
00:41:59I am not...
00:41:59Do not...
00:42:00Do not compare me to dad right now, please!
00:42:03The very same.
00:42:07I can't...
00:42:07No.
00:42:09Jesus.
00:42:09This is fucking terrible.
00:42:10He mustn't be going too well.
00:42:11Now you have all made him mad.
00:42:19And I didn't get my hair done.
00:42:21None of us asked to be here in the first place, you know.
00:42:40That's the food that Dermot gave me for you.
00:42:55I don't know.
00:42:56I don't know.
00:42:56I don't know.
00:42:57I don't know.
00:42:57Let's go.
00:42:58Okay.
00:42:58Okay.
00:43:04Nationalism.
00:43:05This free state is not the state they wanted.
00:43:08This is not the state that they have fought for.
00:43:10In many ways, the state that came into being...
00:43:13You see how your hand is square with long fingers?
00:43:21In Palmer Street, this is what we call an air hand.
00:43:24Air people were known for being very thoughtful and considerate.
00:43:29Very generous with other people.
00:43:32Very sociable.
00:43:35Always making others feel welcome and at ease.
00:43:40Should we see if anyone else wants a hand massage?
00:43:43Well, the round palm is usually an indication of a creative person.
00:44:01Well, I've always been a very creative person.
00:44:04I love making art.
00:44:05Yeah?
00:44:06What kind of art?
00:44:07All sorts.
00:44:08I did a course recently and...
00:44:09It's a cold.
00:44:14Painting?
00:44:15No.
00:44:16Drawing?
00:44:17No.
00:44:19Oh, it'll come back to me.
00:44:21Do me.
00:44:22Okay.
00:44:23I had a fall last year and I ended up with a torn rotator cuff.
00:44:29Oh, no.
00:44:29You poor thing.
00:44:31What did the shape of her hand say?
00:44:33Okay.
00:44:34Let's see.
00:44:37Oh, I'm...
00:44:38This tells us that she's a woman of great faith.
00:44:41See all of these little small lines here?
00:44:43These are all of your guardian angels.
00:44:46See how many of them you have?
00:44:49I can feel them with me.
00:44:51Ceramics.
00:44:53Ceramics.
00:44:54That's what it was.
00:44:56Nothing bad now, do you hear me?
00:44:57Mm-hmm.
00:45:00This is usually a sign of a joyous life right here.
00:45:04Well, that's fucking wrong, anyway.
00:45:07Do you fight with people, Jean?
00:45:11I fight with everyone.
00:45:13Fight with myself if there's no one else around.
00:45:17Things would have been easier when Larry was around.
00:45:19He was good at making me see sense.
00:45:25How old?
00:45:25How old am I?
00:45:29How old was Larry?
00:45:3169.
00:45:32He was only a pup.
00:45:36When did your husband die, Alma?
00:45:40Two years.
00:45:47Just Larry there.
00:45:48He's gorgeous, Jean.
00:45:49Oh, lovely.
00:45:53That's Nigel.
00:45:55Oh, my God.
00:46:00Michael.
00:46:06You would love to see them walking through the door, asking for their dinner.
00:46:10You said them spoiled.
00:46:15I know.
00:46:16They did their part.
00:46:17They did.
00:46:18They still got away with murder, though.
00:46:19At least the one in this house did.
00:46:21My man waited on him hand and foot for 40 years.
00:46:23Yeah, but they worked very hard, and it was different times.
00:46:28So you've worked hard, too.
00:46:30Well, that's true.
00:46:30So why should you not have been given the same opportunities that they were?
00:46:34Well, I never married.
00:46:36Never had to cook a meal for a man in my life.
00:46:38See?
00:46:39And what, you still managed to make a good life for you and Dermot on your own?
00:46:41Oh, it wasn't a good life, Edward.
00:46:44Right.
00:46:45She needed a man.
00:46:46She didn't need a man, ma'am.
00:46:48Maybe I did.
00:46:50I was very lonely.
00:46:51Well, now, look, you've got a mirror.
00:46:54Yeah, that's true.
00:46:55Of course, we've never met.
00:46:57How did that work?
00:46:58Well, we talk on the computer every day.
00:47:00What's the point of that?
00:47:02It's a company, I suppose.
00:47:04He wants to come over and pay a visit, but I don't know.
00:47:07Why complicate things with sex?
00:47:10Jesus, I complicate things with sex given half a chance.
00:47:24I honestly don't think it's that big a deal, Edward.
00:47:26Writers do this type of thing all the time.
00:47:29So just be yourself and charm them and we'll get on.
00:47:32Hey.
00:47:34Are you okay?
00:47:35They want me to do, uh, um,
00:47:41sit in front of a marketing team tomorrow
00:47:42and do a mock Q&A on Zoom.
00:47:45Why?
00:47:45Because apparently my voice needs to be more persuasive in interviews.
00:47:49And that's...
00:47:49It's not funny.
00:47:50It's not funny.
00:47:51My stalks are not just thinking about it.
00:47:52I'm not up for it.
00:47:54I'm not...
00:47:54You're such a drama queen.
00:47:55Oh, fuck you.
00:47:56Fuck you.
00:47:57These American pricks hate my voice.
00:47:59Come on.
00:47:59You'll be fine.
00:48:05I'll be fine.
00:48:06There she goes.
00:48:07Okay.
00:48:14You okay?
00:48:14Uh, uh…
00:48:37Sorry.
00:48:42I mean...
00:48:55I know, I know.
00:48:58I'm here for...
00:49:08I'll just go.
00:49:21Hello and welcome to The Galleys, a podcast from Walter.
00:49:25Tonight we'll be talking to Irish novelist Edward Brady about his debut novel, Eon.
00:49:31Edward, thanks for being with us.
00:49:33Oh, thanks for having me.
00:49:35Edward?
00:49:36Oh my god. Oh my god.
00:49:49Jean!
00:49:51Jean!
00:49:53Jean!
00:49:59Anthony, you're on Opinions Matter. How are you, Anthony?
00:50:02How's it going?
00:50:03So tell me what happened with you...
00:50:04Jean!
00:50:05Jean!
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00:51:23Jean!
00:51:24Jean!
00:51:25Look at me standing, here on my own again.
00:51:34Hoop straight into sunshine.
00:51:55Jane, my leg is stuck.
00:52:09Where's your step back?
00:52:11Where's your step back?
00:52:13Okay, not so quiet.
00:52:15No, close the step.
00:52:17Yeah, close it, but quietly.
00:52:19Quietly, Jane.
00:52:21That's Jane!
00:52:23Quietly.
00:52:25Sure.
00:52:26Oh, here we are.
00:52:29Jane, no, it's quite a bit.
00:52:30I mean, it's grand, oh grand.
00:52:34Second now.
00:52:35Oh!
00:52:36Same with that.
00:52:39Okay.
00:52:41Good night.
00:52:42Who says if I came home, I wouldn't have to drink on me own, so sit down?
00:52:47It's late, Jane.
00:52:48Who cares? Sit down.
00:52:53Drink.
00:52:54I suppose I really needed myself in that place, did I?
00:53:10No, I don't think so.
00:53:12I'm sure there was no one there anyway.
00:53:14Hmm.
00:53:16Because I wasn't even going there to begin with.
00:53:19And where were you going?
00:53:21I was going into town to fuck that walker in the Liffey.
00:53:25I just need to give it a chance, you know, just take some time to get used to.
00:53:30Does it?
00:53:31In all your experience of using a walker takes a bit of time to get used to, does it?
00:53:41Sorry.
00:53:43Well, he warned me.
00:53:46He said if I didn't start moving, it'd be like this forever.
00:53:51Well, I didn't listen.
00:53:53So, here we are.
00:53:58Your man misses him something shocking, doesn't she?
00:54:02I suppose.
00:54:04Ah, she does.
00:54:06Yeah, well, I don't know why.
00:54:08Well, at least they kill each other.
00:54:10She always seems to forget that part.
00:54:12Geez, I used to bollock the head off, Larry.
00:54:14You'd hear me bawling him over it all over the estate.
00:54:18That's just the way it was in them days.
00:54:21But there was a few crosswords.
00:54:24So what?
00:54:26Didn't do us any harm, did it?
00:54:29Uh-huh.
00:54:31Well, I wouldn't say we escaped unscathed, Jean.
00:54:34I mean, you know, we're all in therapy.
00:54:37We're fucking broke, confused, homeless.
00:54:40Crippled with anxiety and incapable of sustaining any kind of meaningful relationship with another person, so...
00:54:49How the fuck was all that our fault?
00:54:59I'm just saying, you know, it can be distressing, you know, especially if you're a kid and your parents are fighting all the time.
00:55:04And then if one parent keeps telling you all the details of the fight, you know, when you're ten,
00:55:08because they don't have anyone else to talk to about it.
00:55:11And then you add to all of that all of the crazy, regressive, religious bullshit that you keep throwing at us.
00:55:18And it's like, you know, maybe we're grand in our 20s, but then one day you're in your 30s and you wake up and you are...
00:55:26scared... you know, it's... you don't know why.
00:55:36Why?
00:55:53Jean. Jean.
00:55:55Jesus.
00:55:57I thought someone had stuck a coin in there.
00:55:59Ah, come on.
00:56:00One way down.
00:56:06What's that?
00:56:08Ah, ladies.
00:56:10Figure up out of that.
00:56:13We're loving our song.
00:56:15Good night, Jean.
00:56:16Where are you going with the camera now?
00:56:21Ah, ah, look, I'm trying to listen to the news.
00:56:23Ah, go on.
00:56:25Hello, Chloe and Leila.
00:56:27I hope you've been very good for your mother and father.
00:56:29Now, go on.
00:56:31Grandad is just full of chat this morning, girls.
00:56:33The good night, girls.
00:56:34All right.
00:56:36What's happening, girls?
00:56:38Or are they doing good?
00:56:40I'm forever, girl.
00:56:43All right.
00:56:45All right, I'm forever.
00:56:47All right.
00:56:49One day, I'm forever...
00:56:51One day, I'm forever.
00:56:53With the week, I'm forever.
00:56:56What's happening, girls?
00:56:57And I'm forever.
00:56:58And I'm forever...
00:57:00Oh, my God.
00:57:01i will ask spirit for a name spirit will tell me who they are and how they passed
00:57:22and all i ask of you is that if you recognize that name you validate what i'm saying she's
00:57:29very good isn't she all right um spirit do you have a name for us today
00:57:37edward they are asking me to confirm your flight on itinerary uh they
00:57:48hey i need to talk to you in private for a minute want to go to galway
00:57:54what want to see more of the medium ma'am ma'am what are you talking about galway
00:58:07medium your mommy was showing us these videos of more of the medium and um rosie was saying
00:58:14we should find out if she did in person mediation anyway we sent her a message on facebook and to
00:58:20put a long story short she's booked us in for a session at four o'clock today
00:58:27we just want to know that they're at peace who your daddy and nigel and larry i just fancy the idea
00:58:34of a road trip
00:58:50we are absolutely not going on a six hour round trip to galway okay i have a really important call with
00:58:54my publishers at five bring your computer bring my computer are you for real i have to be here
00:59:00what if there's no wi-fi be fine oh be fine be fine be fine no be fine okay you've certainly
00:59:06changed your tune we're not going to galway sorry and i have to speak to you about something urgent
00:59:10hey mom
00:59:23uh
00:59:27uh
00:59:29uh
00:59:31uh
00:59:33uh
00:59:35uh
00:59:37I want to be where the boys are
00:59:45But I'm not allowed
00:59:49I will slide over the boys far
00:59:53I wish them to all come out
00:59:57Giant
00:59:58I found your book on Amazon, Edward
01:00:13Oh, look, there's reviews here
01:00:15Will I read them out?
01:00:16No, thank you
01:00:17This fella came with five stars
01:00:19Says, it's a wonderful novel
01:00:21The characters are very human
01:00:23Oh, hang on
01:00:24There's a bad one
01:00:25Can't see where all the fuss is about
01:00:27What's he not?
01:00:29Not one to be handed out
01:00:31Unless it's to the charity shop
01:00:32You can stop now
01:00:33That's well, but goes nowhere
01:00:35I put it down after 50 pages
01:00:37How the fuck does he know it goes nowhere then?
01:00:39Please stop, G
01:00:40You're my agent
01:00:42You should buy me some more time
01:00:44I'm in the middle of...
01:00:45What's Edward's book about?
01:00:46I have been trying to tell her for two days now
01:00:48It's about a relationship between two young gay men
01:00:51One is a teenager from Leitrim
01:00:53The other is a 22-year-old posh boy from London
01:00:56That sounds good, doesn't it?
01:00:58It may have been cheap, but we're gays
01:01:00I'm just at the bit where the main character
01:01:02Takes his mother to the Gresham Hotel for tea
01:01:05So he can tell he's gay
01:01:07I thought what Edward did with you, Emma
01:01:09Edward's coming up was very fun
01:01:12Why? What happened?
01:01:13When Edward was 17
01:01:16He snuck out to a gay bar
01:01:19And got off with this air steward
01:01:22Sven
01:01:22Sven, Sven from Sweden
01:01:25He was much older
01:01:27He wasn't that much older, Alma
01:01:29Whatever
01:01:31So one weekend, Edward lied and told Alma
01:01:34He was staying with a friend
01:01:36But actually, he flew to Sweden to stay with Sven
01:01:39When he was just 17
01:01:41I know, he was such a badass back then, right?
01:01:43So you can just imagine 17-year-old Edward
01:01:46Hanging out in Sven's fancy apartment
01:01:49When all of a sudden
01:01:52The phone rings
01:01:53And somebody's on the line
01:01:55I said, is my son there?
01:01:57How did you know where he was?
01:01:59Traced the number
01:02:00She traced the number
01:02:02Colin would have been about 22, I'd say
01:02:08And he would have been very moody at that age
01:02:11Always on his own
01:02:12And then suddenly he had this friend, Adrian
01:02:15And he used to drive up to the house in a red beamer
01:02:19And he'd bring Colin off to the pictures
01:02:20And one day they were driving off
01:02:22And I says to Larry
01:02:23I think your man's a bit more than a friend
01:02:26It's a laugh
01:02:28My youngest, Nicola, kept saying
01:02:33He's gay, mammy
01:02:35He's gay
01:02:36I says, I don't want to know
01:02:39I really don't want to know
01:02:40Then it all came to a head one night
01:02:43Because a chap Nicola was working with
01:02:45Saw Billy dancing in a bar
01:02:47So he was summoned home
01:02:49And confronted on it
01:02:51Not by me
01:02:52I couldn't hack it
01:02:53I ran upstairs
01:02:55And locked myself in the bathroom
01:02:56And wouldn't come out
01:02:57What did you do that for?
01:03:00I just found it very hard
01:03:02I still do
01:03:04Would you prefer he kept it a secret
01:03:07Until he was 53 and married with kids?
01:03:10Exactly
01:03:10Edward, your phone
01:03:19Will I answer?
01:03:20Oh, yes, please
01:03:21Hi, Edward
01:03:22It's Katie here
01:03:23From Hamilton Lodge Residential Care
01:03:24I just wanted to
01:03:25I'm actually driving at the minute
01:03:27Alright, so can I call you back?
01:03:29Yeah, okay
01:03:31Alright, thank you
01:03:32Okay, bye-bye-bye-bye
01:03:33Did that go on there?
01:03:38Alright
01:03:40Okay, so, bye-bye-bye-bye-bye
01:03:57Okay, everyone ready?
01:04:19Well, hello.
01:04:20You're most welcome.
01:04:21Hello.
01:04:22Come in, come in.
01:04:24You can hang your jacket up at the hall if you like.
01:04:26Oh, thank you.
01:04:27Oh, jeez.
01:04:53Pancake, would you ever do something about them pigeons?
01:04:59Little bastards are nesting above in the draining pipes.
01:05:02Right.
01:05:03I'm going to do a star three card spread,
01:05:06and then I'll put a call out and see who comes in to us.
01:05:08Um...
01:05:09Now, just so yous know,
01:05:11the messages they have might not mean anything in the here and now.
01:05:15Oh, jeez.
01:05:15Oftentimes, it's when yous go home and reflect.
01:05:18Oh, jeez.
01:05:19That's whatever they say starts to make sense.
01:05:21All right?
01:05:22The lovers.
01:05:36Betrayal.
01:05:37Betrayal.
01:05:46Betrayal.
01:05:50They're hermit.
01:05:52Oh.
01:05:53It's going to be a bumpy ride.
01:06:07Okay.
01:06:09Okay.
01:06:13One of them's very giddy.
01:06:15Keeps telling me jokes.
01:06:16It's Larry.
01:06:17It's Larry.
01:06:19Right.
01:06:21And there's another lad very offended by Larry's jokes.
01:06:25Nigel.
01:06:28Yes.
01:06:29And now there's a third gentleman who's not a bit pleased to be here.
01:06:37Says his wife, Alma, should know better than wasting money on the likes of me.
01:06:42Is that familiar?
01:06:45Michael.
01:06:47Fond of giving out this fellow, is he?
01:06:51Still asking what in the name of Jesus you're doing here?
01:06:54I just want to know that he is at peace.
01:07:03He's very much at peace.
01:07:05But he misses you terribly.
01:07:09I had a stroke, Michael, and I lost my voice.
01:07:12He says he can hear you just fine.
01:07:16Edward is putting me in a home.
01:07:18Mom.
01:07:24That is not true.
01:07:32That is not.
01:07:33Can we just talk about this later?
01:07:44The publishers wanted me to go to America for a book tour for ten days.
01:07:50Okay?
01:07:51So I just went to go and take a look at a place just to see if it might be somewhere that you might like.
01:07:56I'm not going there.
01:07:57Okay, yes, fine.
01:07:57You're not going there.
01:07:58Okay, so...
01:07:59Just a minute.
01:08:02Michael has a message for Edward.
01:08:04Oh, no.
01:08:04No, no, no, no.
01:08:05I'm sorry, ladies, but could you give us some space?
01:08:08I don't want to be part of that.
01:08:09You talk to your daddy, Edward.
01:08:10No.
01:08:11You sit down here.
01:08:12I don't want to sit down there.
01:08:13I'm going to be here.
01:08:14Does the letter R mean anything?
01:08:25No.
01:08:27R?
01:08:28No.
01:08:30Raph.
01:08:32Raphael used to be Edward's boyfriend, but he broke up with Edward because Edward wouldn't commit.
01:08:38And now Raph has a new boyfriend, and they're moving to France together.
01:08:42Spirit says you haven't been yourself, Edward.
01:08:47Okay, that's enough.
01:08:48He says you have to man up.
01:08:50Take better care of the people you love.
01:08:53Don't make the same mistake you made with Raph again.
01:08:56Come on now.
01:08:57Do better.
01:09:00Take better care of the people I love.
01:09:05Wait.
01:09:06The way he did.
01:09:07Okay, why don't you ask Spirit why my mom had to raise two kids on her own while he went
01:09:13off and did whatever he wanted with whoever he wanted?
01:09:17Because he did, ma'am.
01:09:18That's, I mean, you want me to talk to dad?
01:09:20That's fine.
01:09:20I'll talk to dad.
01:09:21Ask Spirit how he felt about having a gay son.
01:09:23Edward, stop.
01:09:25You've got such a selective memory when it comes to that man, ma'am.
01:09:29Do you ever think about what he put me through?
01:09:32And no matter what I did, no matter what I did, he would always be disappointed.
01:09:36And who was there for him when he was sick?
01:09:38I was.
01:09:39And I know Andrew, he, I mean, Andrew brought the house down with the eulogy.
01:09:43He brought the house down.
01:09:44But was he there when it really mattered?
01:09:47No, I was.
01:09:48I was.
01:09:49I was there.
01:09:49And I am here right now.
01:09:52And just because I don't have kids doesn't mean my life has no value.
01:10:06Alma, are you okay?
01:10:13Mom.
01:10:16Mom, I'm sorry.
01:10:19I'm sorry.
01:10:22If I actually think I have to start that in front of me.
01:10:26Oh, Jesus Christ.
01:10:27Are you all right?
01:10:28I'm all right, Edward.
01:10:29Edward, are you all right, Edward?
01:10:31Give him some space.
01:10:33Are you all right?
01:10:34Don't worry about a thing.
01:10:36If you're your father is by your side, his hand is on your shoulder.
01:10:39That's the last fucking thing he wants to hear.
01:10:42Should we say a rosary?
01:10:44A rosary?
01:10:45A rosary?
01:10:46Oh my God, there's something wrong with Alma.
01:10:48Alma, are you okay?
01:10:49Alma, you've nothing to worry about, pet.
01:10:53Michael is holding your hand.
01:10:55Stop making that sound like someone is going to die.
01:10:58No one is going to die.
01:10:59Oh, fuck.
01:11:00Call an ambulance.
01:11:01Someone get a paper bag from that drawer over there.
01:11:04Mom, please talk to her.
01:11:06Please talk to her.
01:11:07Breathe in.
01:11:07Breathe in.
01:11:08Breathe in.
01:11:09Breathe in.
01:11:09Okay?
01:11:09The hospital wants to know, is anyone having a heart attack?
01:11:13I don't know.
01:11:15We don't know.
01:11:16If the chap is gay.
01:11:17What the fuck has that got to do with it, Anton?
01:11:19I don't know who you talk to.
01:11:24We can hang up mode.
01:11:26They're fine.
01:11:27Oh, thank God.
01:11:29That's it.
01:11:30That's it.
01:11:30There we go.
01:11:36Well, I'll tell you one thing, ladies.
01:11:38The lads are going buck wild.
01:11:41Sweet Jesus.
01:11:42Oh, my God.
01:11:43Oh, my God.
01:11:43Oh, my God.
01:11:45Oh, my God.
01:11:47Are they still here?
01:11:50Well, they are indeed.
01:11:51Where are they?
01:11:58They're standing in the corner there behind Alma.
01:12:02And they're singing a ballad.
01:12:04One morning as I went afowling, bright Phoebus adorning the play, it was down by the shades of
01:12:22Loch Lachan.
01:12:23I met with this wonderful dame.
01:12:30Her voice was so sweet and so pleasing.
01:12:36These wonderful notes she did sing.
01:12:43Hi, everyone.
01:12:54Hi.
01:12:54Hello, everyone.
01:12:55Oh, my God.
01:12:56Where are you?
01:12:57Um, it's actually, it's a long story, but I'm on a mini bus, like a mini, like a, I don't
01:13:03know what you say, like a bus.
01:13:04I'm on a bus.
01:13:05Edward, just get everyone else is here and let's you and me talk.
01:13:09Sure.
01:13:10Sure.
01:13:11Okay, so where do you want to start, darling?
01:13:13Shall we do influencers?
01:13:15Why don't you talk about the books that had an impact on you as a teenager?
01:13:19Um, okay, um, I actually, uh, have something to confess to you guys, and I know my timing
01:13:40is appalling on this, but, um, I, I don't know for sure if I am going to be able to, to get
01:13:52over there.
01:13:54Things with my mom, she's, you know, she's quite unwell, as I mentioned before, and I, I
01:13:59can't...
01:13:59Edward, I'm sorry, just to clarify here, are you saying that you can't come over for the
01:14:03tour now?
01:14:04Edward, we're going to take a breath here, okay?
01:14:08Um.
01:14:09Edward, we have a two-week tour booked in good faith.
01:14:12We have bookstores and press and signings.
01:14:16We have Ann Patchett doing a Q&A with you in her store in Nashville.
01:14:20I mean...
01:14:21Yeah.
01:14:30I just, I just don't know if I can, uh, at this moment.
01:14:35It's just the way things are.
01:14:40Hi Edward, we've just landed, so I'd say we'd be with you now about an hour.
01:14:46I'm with this grumpy dope dope who won't even talk to me.
01:14:52I can fucking hear you.
01:14:53See the state of that?
01:14:53That's been my holiday for three fucking days.
01:14:58Anyway, see you soon.
01:14:59See you soon.
01:15:00Bye.
01:15:01Bye.
01:15:02Bye.
01:15:03Bye.
01:15:04Bye.
01:15:05Bye.
01:15:06Bye.
01:15:07Bye.
01:15:08Bye.
01:15:09Bye.
01:15:10Bye.
01:15:11Bye.
01:15:12Bye.
01:15:13Bye.
01:15:14Bye.
01:15:15Bye.
01:15:16Bye.
01:15:17Bye.
01:15:18Bye.
01:15:19Bye.
01:15:20Bye.
01:15:21Bye.
01:15:22Bye.
01:15:23Bye.
01:15:24Bye.
01:15:25Bye.
01:15:26Bye.
01:15:27Bye.
01:15:28Bye.
01:15:29Bye.
01:15:30Bye.
01:15:31Bye.
01:15:32Bye.
01:15:33Bye.
01:15:34Bye.
01:15:35Thanks for today.
01:16:03It was an adventure.
01:16:06Yeah.
01:16:08What?
01:16:12Don't go.
01:16:16Edward, that's not fair.
01:16:24You're using me as a distraction.
01:16:25I'm not using it.
01:16:26You are.
01:16:26I'm not.
01:16:27You need to focus on what's important now.
01:16:30Your book, Alma.
01:16:33Our time is gone, and I'm...
01:16:36Why?
01:16:39Why?
01:16:40Why has it gone?
01:16:40Maybe because I'm with someone else now.
01:16:42What do you think?
01:16:47I know where things go with you.
01:16:50I kiss you back, and then poof, you disappear.
01:16:53Where is Edward?
01:16:54I don't know.
01:16:54He's writing his book now.
01:16:56He's busy.
01:16:57He's mine and Alma.
01:16:58He has no time.
01:16:59Okay.
01:16:59Go to America, or don't go to America.
01:17:08Just...
01:17:09You just need to make a decision.
01:17:14For once, just make a decision and leave with it.
01:17:18You just need to make a decision, just make a decision.
01:17:35Look at that.
01:17:35Oh, that's right.
01:17:38Look at that.
01:17:39Don't do that.
01:17:39But don't do that.
01:17:40I mean, it isn't just sree
01:17:43To make a decision I'm попытied.
01:17:44I suspect...
01:17:45I nak...
01:17:46you can never wrap it Hoş
01:17:46You don't see...
01:17:46you don't want to run off.
01:17:48I know that nothing is better for them than to rejoice and to do good in their lives.
01:18:18Right, right.
01:18:39Right.
01:18:46Toilet.
01:18:48Do you just want to sit up?
01:19:06Do you want to sit in?
01:19:12You have to.
01:19:39What? What? I have to what?
01:19:42Book. Tour.
01:19:45Ma'am, I told you, OK? They said it was fine.
01:19:54What? I don't need to be there.
01:20:01You don't want... So now you know better than all the publishers and my agents and all these other people?
01:20:06Live. Live your life.
01:20:18Oh, please.
01:20:25Please, I'm sorry, what does that even mean?
01:20:30I am living my life.
01:20:33OK, look at me, here I am.
01:20:37Here I am, I'm living my life perfectly happy.
01:20:40I am living my life perfectly happy.
01:21:11Alright.
01:21:16Here I am, sir.
01:21:52Fucking dick.
01:21:58Hey, how are you doing? Nice to meet you.
01:22:00Nice to meet you.
01:22:01Kate's here and she wants to see you somewhere.
01:22:04Oh, fine.
01:22:04Do you hate her?
01:22:06Yes, I do.
01:22:09Oh, thanks.
01:22:15How did you...
01:22:16You got lost.
01:22:19We will miss you now.
01:22:24Tell you what, once we get settled in, maybe you and Edward might come over for a visit.
01:22:30And I'll send you loads of pictures.
01:22:36Sweet!
01:22:38Goodbyes are hard, but this one is particularly hard because working with you all for the past four years has been amazing.
01:22:49See you soon.
01:23:02I gotta have fun.
01:23:02So you're almost as if I was listening?
01:23:04I'll send you an email.
01:23:06I'll send you an email or send me an email.
01:24:38Will she be for break?
01:24:40Jean?
01:24:42Here you are.
01:24:43Will she be for break?
01:24:49Will she be for break?
01:24:50You want a break from us?
01:24:53Mushy.
01:24:54Is it moosey?
01:24:55Do you want moose for your hair?
01:24:58Is it about something you wear?
01:25:00Rosie, will you come here for a minute?
01:25:02Maud, please stop fidgeting with the controls on her iPad.
01:25:05I didn't touch them.
01:25:06Oh, is it something you want to eat for breakfast?
01:25:10Mushy beef.
01:25:11Mushrooms?
01:25:13Mushroom risotto.
01:25:15What would you be eating risotto for breakfast for?
01:25:17Hello, everyone, and welcome to the first copy podcast, coming to you live from the corner
01:25:23bookstore in New York City.
01:25:25Joining us this afternoon is the Irish novelist Edward Brady.
01:25:29We begin, as always, with an extract from his debut novel, Eon.
01:25:32He's very professional, isn't he?
01:25:34Stop talking.
01:25:36Sorry.
01:25:36Eon feigned indifference and took the drink from Fergal.
01:25:43What if it's spiked with drugs, he thought.
01:25:45For most of his adolescence, his mother was obsessed with the dangers of spiked drinks.
01:25:49She made him promise, on pain of death, that he would never accept a drink from anyone who
01:25:54wasn't a relation.
01:25:55And for one brief moment, he pondered the absurdity of the McDonough family.
01:26:00Every aunt, uncle, and cousin all standing in this tiny little gay bar with them, watching
01:26:05Ramona, the drag queen, pulling a prone necklace from her rear end.
01:26:09I go, really slowly.
01:26:12So, no, I'm not a good multitasker.
01:26:16No.
01:26:17That's my mom.
01:26:19There you are, Alma.
01:26:20You're famous.
01:26:27I'm in Philadelphia now, or Boston.
01:26:32I don't know.
01:26:32I'm in the next place.
01:26:33This is Patrick from the PR place, from the publishers.
01:26:37Hey.
01:26:40I kissed him last night.
01:26:43Fergal flashed an insincere smile, sensing his apprehension.
01:26:46Then winked and kissed him on the cheek before sashaying away like the bourgeois villain in
01:26:51Agatha Christie not.
01:26:52Agatha Christie used to write three books a year.
01:26:56Did he?
01:26:56She.
01:26:58Is that not the chap with the moustache that wrote The Jewel of the Nile?
01:27:01Death on the Nile.
01:27:03You're thinking of Poirot.
01:27:04Here's the character in her books.
01:27:06Eh, you just said it was a woman.
01:27:08No, Poirot is a man.
01:27:09Agatha Christie is a woman.
01:27:11David Suchet plays him.
01:27:13That's right.
01:27:13Stop talking.
01:27:14I saw him on the late, late show.
01:27:16He's a very spiritual.
01:27:17I can't hear, Edward.
01:27:18Hmm.
01:27:19Sounds like a creep to me.
01:27:20Stop talking.
01:27:21Jesus, the American accent is the pits, isn't it?
01:27:23It goes through my head.
01:27:24Hi, I'm from Denver.
01:27:26Pleased to meet you.
01:27:27Have you heard of xenophobia, Jean?
01:27:29You've heard of fystophobia, Rosie.
01:27:31You are all annoying me now.
01:27:33I am from Denver.
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