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00:00Playboy is looking for a pinup girl.
00:03You think of who is going to be in Playboy?
00:05Well, Lisa.
00:07Perfect.
00:09Lisa Kale went from an unknown waitress
00:13to a Playboy sensation overnight.
00:20But posing nude for Playboy can put a target on your back.
00:24Lisa's boyfriend had a surprise waiting.
00:28But she never showed up.
00:31As soon as I walked in the room,
00:33I knew it was a double murder.
00:36How could someone look at her and do this?
00:40Something's not adding up here at all.
00:44What a hot mess.
00:58In 1985, I was a police officer assigned to the Homicide Division of the Dallas Police Department.
01:11I had to be at work at 7 a.m.
01:14So I was in bed.
01:16But we had a pager.
01:18And, you know, when that pager went off, you knew that your sleep was over for the night.
01:24Because you were going on an adventure.
01:28It was a little after midnight when we got called to the scene to investigate a murder.
01:38Two murder victims in a home in that upscale, affluent neighborhood.
01:43Yeah, that's very out of place.
01:46In my career, I was the lead detective on 196 murders.
01:51I found them in every kind of condition.
01:54As soon as we looked around the house, we find two people, a man and a woman, both bloodied and beat and obviously deceased.
02:11There's blood everywhere.
02:13There wasn't the, as I call, the odor of death on the scene.
02:17So we knew that it had just happened.
02:21We did determine that the female that was found in that house was Playboy model, Lisa Kale.
02:32Lisa had just appeared in the Playboy issue that featured Texas girls.
02:44Playboy was always looking for the type of girl from a small town that could just jump off of the page.
02:51They wanted somebody who was beautiful, fresh faced, that would make the reader feel like they could possibly meet this girl.
02:58So Playboy would scout places like universities, upscaled bars, things like that to find women that might not hear about it otherwise.
03:08So the whole process for the girls of Texas started in the early part of 1984.
03:15Playboy went looking for new talent.
03:18Playboy went looking for new talent.
03:21Someone like Lisa Kale.
03:27Lisa was beautiful.
03:29Lisa and I were very close.
03:33We were a big family, five children.
03:36Lisa was the oldest.
03:37I was number two.
03:40With my dad being in the Air Force, we moved a lot.
03:45I remember I was going into the eighth grade.
03:48She was going into the ninth grade.
03:51And one of these girls said,
03:54here comes your sister, the bitch.
03:57And she said, nobody talks to my sister that way.
04:04That was so cool.
04:07She was a badass.
04:13After high school, our parents got orders to go to Germany.
04:18Lisa and I didn't want to go.
04:19That's when I moved out to Dallas.
04:23I just wanted Lisa to come with me.
04:26And she did.
04:27She arrived early 83.
04:34This was the first time that we were both in a city city.
04:40We were in the nightlife.
04:43The vibe in Dallas in the 80s was very sexually charged.
04:48It was always crazy with people being out until the sun came up.
04:57Pretty much everybody in the country was excited about it.
04:59Texas girls.
05:01The Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders were just starting out.
05:04And I think that was part of the kind of hype that was going on.
05:11And of course, Dallas was one of the most popular shows.
05:14Dallas was a huge show in the 80s.
05:18The sets were like so over the top, like fantasy upscale.
05:23The hair was big.
05:24There was a lot of makeup.
05:25So it was very much high glamour in the 80s.
05:33Confetti was the nightclub.
05:34There would be a queue around the building every night to get in.
05:40So Lisa gets a job as a waitress there.
05:45I was a co-worker and a really good friend of Lisa.
05:48And we did a lot of fun things together.
05:50Had some crazy nights at that nightclub.
05:52It was just a really, really fun place to be.
05:55Girls in the skimpy outfits.
05:57You would go on the stage and you would perform.
06:00So you've got to be kind of an outgoing person.
06:02And she just exuded something special.
06:05And the guys loved her.
06:06Around spring of 1984, Lisa's been here a year.
06:18She's working at Confetti's.
06:20And there's an ad that says,
06:22Playboy magazine is coming to Texas and is looking for some models.
06:28Playboy is looking for a pinup girl.
06:31So around that time, Playboy increased their cross-country searches
06:33to open up opportunities for women from smaller cities
06:38to go be met in person and submit themselves.
06:41But also it was great publicity for the brand.
06:44Playboy is huge.
06:47It is a dream for so many women.
06:50If you will, come right over here.
06:52I'm going to show you how to pose.
06:54I want to tilt the head.
06:56I was with Playboy as a photographer from the late 70s up through 2003 or 2004.
07:01So around 23, 24 years.
07:04I want you to drop your chin down just a touch.
07:05Right there, how lips.
07:07I never met David personally, but I've seen his name everywhere.
07:11He was a regular at Playboy.
07:13He shot so many things.
07:15When I came on board, another photographer had been going out to the various big college conferences
07:22doing these college girl pictorials.
07:24And it became very popular.
07:28So that's where they started thinking in terms of using either identities or jobs as a premise for the pictorials themselves.
07:37And I was sent to several cities.
07:41And we'd set up camp in a really nice hotel.
07:45And then I would see girls.
07:47And it was just an amazing way to meet these potential models that ended up being either pictorial girls or a playmate.
07:54My very first experience trying out for Playboy was when I was in college in Portland, Oregon.
08:04Playboy was searching for a special playmate for the year 2000 issue.
08:08I called ahead and found out, you know, I needed to bring a bikini and go down there.
08:14So that's what I did.
08:16And I didn't get into the magazine that way.
08:20I didn't appear into the magazine until I had already been living at the Playboy Mansion for several years and we started doing a reality show.
08:29But back in the 80s, people either had to mail their photos in or they had to show up for a casting.
08:39They sent me out to do the Girls of Texas in the early part of 1984.
08:46If you think of who is going to be in Playboy, someone sophisticated, classy, grace.
08:55Well, Lisa, perfect. This is perfect.
09:00There's an advertisement for a big casting at the Doubletree Hotel.
09:11And I thought, I'm going to the Doubletree Hotel to pick up pamphlets and flyers for Lisa.
09:18And I was going to take them to her and go, you've got to do this.
09:20I'm a loan processor. It's very important to me to always look professional.
09:27So I walk in. The other women in there were not dressed like me at all.
09:32I'm in this dress buttoned up to here.
09:35This lady comes to me and she says, can you come back here, please?
09:41And then we go into one of the suites.
09:44She looks me up and down.
09:47And then comes back with two swimsuits.
09:50And asked me to put one on.
09:53When Crystal came in to get the information for her sister, Lisa,
09:58I thought she was very attractive.
10:01And I immediately knew that I could photograph her.
10:05The photographer that was in there, he goes, I just want to take a couple of Polaroids of you.
10:10Never done anything like that before.
10:13But Playboy, their reputation was great.
10:15And so I did it.
10:21Crystal kept talking about her sister.
10:23And I go, look, I'm sure your sister is wonderful.
10:26I can't wait to meet her.
10:28And I said, come back with your sister and I can do an interview with both of you.
10:32I thought it would be really cool to have sisters in the pictorial.
10:36I needed to get to Lisa fast.
10:39Because she'd be working tomorrow.
10:41She needs to get the night off.
10:42I go to see her and go, Lisa, I got to tell you about this.
10:48And she was definitely interested.
10:54When Lisa walked into the room, she had a great look.
10:58Dark hair, smoky eyes, very sexy.
11:03And I'm just like, okay, this girl is hot.
11:11And so I called both Lisa and Crystal.
11:16It was rare for sisters to pose for Playboy.
11:19It was definitely appealing to Playboy to publish anything kind of unexpected.
11:26They have us both come in together just to share the plan to prepare for our shoots.
11:35We had no idea what was about to happen.
11:37Crystal and Lisa were exactly the type of women that Playboy liked.
11:54They were fresh faced.
11:56They had the girl next door look.
11:58They had voluptuous figures.
11:59They were really the whole package.
12:02Because they each had such a strong look, I didn't want to lessen the strength of their photograph by putting them together as a sister act.
12:13So I photographed them separately.
12:16They want to send me to the mountains.
12:18When we did the shot of Crystal, she's up in the rocks and she's got on kind of this army green outfit kind of thing.
12:28You've got the vista in the background and all this kind of stuff. It's really cool.
12:32The difference in their looks made it a little more intriguing as well as the fact that they're both attractive in different ways.
12:44For Lisa, they knew exactly where they wanted her.
12:48South Fork Ranch, where Dallas was filmed.
12:53The show Dallas was so huge in the 80s.
12:56So Lisa's photos were actually shot at the ranch where they filmed Dallas.
13:01So they were very much with the Texas theme.
13:06When I got to the location and I saw this old style bathtub.
13:12And Lisa had this insanely nice body.
13:15Gorgeous boobs, gorgeous legs, everything.
13:19And so I told her, I said, you know what?
13:20I think I just want to photograph you nude in the tub.
13:23And she's like, yeah.
13:24She was like all for it.
13:28So off she goes into the tub.
13:31And I just went, oh my gosh, this thing looks great.
13:36I thought, wow, this girl's got playmate potential.
13:38I mean, she was born to be there.
13:49This end of June, maybe early July of 1984.
13:52And the magazine comes out early January 1985.
13:58Lisa was probably already picturing in her head.
14:02This was a huge opportunity to her.
14:05Huge.
14:07She was going to be someone.
14:09This is an exciting time.
14:12The magazine had not come out yet.
14:15But after the Playboy shoot, Lisa could not contain her excitement and she was telling everyone, you know what?
14:20I'm going to be in Playboy.
14:21When she told us about that, I'm not the only one that thought Lisa will be a hit in Playboy.
14:29In a way, she was a little bit like a brunette Dorothy Stratton, one of those ladies that had this kind of spark that everybody saw and just went, wow.
14:41Lisa has a lot of admirers, but she didn't have any boyfriends.
14:48And then she met this guy, Joey D'Amato.
14:54Joey was actually a bartender at Confetti.
14:58Everybody got along with Joey.
14:59Joey got along with everyone else.
15:01He was a nice looking guy, pretty normal.
15:05And I think that was part of probably Lisa's appeal with him.
15:08He was just this guy who thought she was beautiful, but was kind and caring and not after something.
15:19Joey was as close as Lisa could come to being in a relationship.
15:25However, she's going to be in Playboy.
15:28She's not going to commit to anything completely.
15:33Lisa's photo could have definitely led to more opportunities for her within Playboy,
15:37especially if she had the standout photo of that pictorial.
15:42Lisa has a fire in her now.
15:45She wants to go as far as she can in this new found career.
15:49And now she can actually do something about it.
15:51So Joey's spending all this time at Confetti's.
16:01He is with Lisa, but that was also when he strikes up a friendship with Kobe Sandowski.
16:08Kobe is known around town.
16:14He is the local go-to for your party favors.
16:18Cocaine.
16:21This is the mid-80s.
16:23And there was a lot of cocaine.
16:25There was a lot of cocaine at the time.
16:28But it wasn't one of these scenes where people were just blatantly doing drugs, you know, on the bar or whatever.
16:32It was more of kind of a behind-the-scenes kind of thing.
16:37Lisa and Joey, they like to have fun. They like to party.
16:42So it doesn't faze Lisa that he's hanging out with Kobe.
16:46He was good to her.
16:49They were seeing each other pretty regularly.
16:52And then the magazine comes out.
16:56January 8th, 1985.
16:59The Playboy magazine spread hits the newsstand.
17:05And usually it is the cover girl that gets all the attention.
17:10But this time it was Lisa.
17:13And everyone is talking about the girl in the red tub.
17:18Lisa's photo is really sexy.
17:19She's in this bright red bathtub, in a bubble bath.
17:24She's very fit.
17:25She's got the tan lines.
17:28Perfect 80s makeup.
17:30Lisa definitely had the qualities Playboy was looking for.
17:35Playboy reported that they nearly doubled their sales that month.
17:42Lisa Kale went from an unknown waitress
17:45to a Playboy model sensation overnight.
17:50It does make them a celebrity of sorts.
17:55She is the girl in the red tub.
17:58What a title.
18:00And I'm sure she probably relished it too.
18:03I mean, knowing her, she probably loved that.
18:06I'm in the magazine, but I'm moving away from the attention.
18:11Everything going on.
18:14But Lisa's liking this attention.
18:17She's doing well in it.
18:19She's seeing Joey.
18:21She's truly living her best life.
18:24There's so many different ways a boyfriend or husband could react to their significant other posing for Playboy.
18:29Some people love it, and they're super excited about it.
18:35For Joey, he's feeling a lot of pressure.
18:41I am sure Joey feels like he needs to make a grand gesture in order to stay the boyfriend of his beautiful girlfriend.
18:53Lisa's birthday is in February.
18:56She's like, that's my girl.
18:57I want to take care of her.
18:58We're going to have a party.
19:00Joey wants to go all out, surprise her, and make it a big night to remember.
19:06Her birthday was Tuesday, February 26th.
19:08Her big party was Wednesday night, February 27th.
19:10And I couldn't go.
19:11But it was very important to him to give this to her.
19:25While Lisa's getting a bunch of attention for her photo shoot in Playboy, Crystal actually got married.
19:33She's laying low while Lisa's living it up.
19:36Friends are waiting for Lisa to arrive, and they're waiting and waiting, and she's still not there.
19:46People were concerned because she was pretty punctual.
19:51People thought maybe they got in an accident or that maybe they had to stop and run an errand, maybe go pick up some more booze.
19:59The wait was pretty tense and pretty serious.
20:02And they never showed up.
20:04It's late at night, and John Hudgens goes to his friend Jeffrey Licker's house.
20:22He's knocking on the door. He's getting no answer.
20:25He decides to let himself in.
20:29He looks around the house when he comes across a gruesome discovery.
20:34He found two bodies in an upstairs bedroom.
20:38So he went downstairs and called 911.
20:47At 1.45 a.m., investigators arrive at the house on Blackbird Lane.
20:53John Hudgens directs them upstairs.
20:59As soon as I walked in the room and saw what I saw, I knew it wasn't like a murder-suicide.
21:07I knew it was a double murder.
21:12The two victims had blunt force trauma to their heads.
21:25Their heads are covered with plastic bags.
21:29There's blood everywhere.
21:30This is a violent scene.
21:34One of the first questions that investigators always have is, who are these people?
21:39And what were they doing here?
21:40The 911 caller says that he's friends with the homeowner, Jeffrey Licker.
21:46And he determined by looking at the body that it was absolutely not Jeffrey Licker.
21:52He didn't know who those people were.
21:56And he had been in that house a lot of times and knew who's supposed to be there.
22:01And it's not them.
22:02Police investigators did find identification on the male victim.
22:08We were able to identify him as Kobe Sandosky through his driver's license.
22:15We had an Israeli identification card.
22:19But beyond that, there wasn't a lot of information about him.
22:23Most ladies, when they go out, they carry a purse with them.
22:26Police find a wallet, and that wallet belongs to Lisa Kale.
22:39It was Thursday night, and the phone rings.
22:44My husband answers it, and it was a police officer.
22:50And I knew before he even told me, I could feel it, I could see it.
22:54While he's talking, I started hearing this loud sound.
23:01It sounded like somebody screaming, like a child.
23:06And then I realized it was me.
23:10And I was just looking at him saying,
23:14no, no, it couldn't be.
23:18Lisa couldn't be gone. There's no way she could be gone.
23:22Who could have done this?
23:26You never know how hard a task will be until you start trying.
23:34At the scene, we understand that the homeowner is Jeff Licker.
23:40Since one of the victims is not the homeowner, where is he at?
23:47Mr. Licker was an attorney. He was a prominent tax attorney in Dallas back at the time.
23:52Jeffrey Licker is 29 years old, and he is known to let his friends kind of come and go from his house as needed.
24:04They know how to get in and out, and he frequently has guests.
24:09Police found a lot of cocaine, so they knew this was a place that people go to have fun, do coke, hang out. It was a party house.
24:22At that point, any kind of narrative could be possible.
24:27You know, is he on the run? Is he unaware? Is he a murder victim himself?
24:31There's just so much they don't know about Licker at this point.
24:33But with no definite way of getting hold of him, police shift their focus to any additional information that they can find there at the scene.
24:45There was a car out front of the house.
24:48Registered to Kobe Sandosky.
24:53And they also found a phone in the car.
24:56In the 80s, we didn't have cell phones, and a select few had car phones.
25:05Usually those were wealthier people or drug dealers.
25:13So officers decide, well, let's call this last call number.
25:17And so they dial the phone.
25:19And Lisa's boyfriend, Joey D'Amato, answers it.
25:22So police ask him, who called you from this number and when?
25:28And Joey tells them, my girlfriend Lisa called me around 9.30 p.m.
25:36Joey has been waiting up all night just wondering what the heck has happened to Lisa.
25:44When Lisa just didn't show up for the birthday party, there was time for probably a million things to go through Joey's head.
25:55Part of him was thinking that something bad had happened to her.
25:59We tell him that we found a couple of people that have been killed, and we're doing an investigation.
26:09He confirmed to us that when he talked to Lisa, she said she was waiting on Kobe.
26:16Joey said that he was waiting on her to get to this surprise party, but she never showed up.
26:22And that Kobe was giving her a ride.
26:25So police are asking Joey, what is her relationship to Kobe?
26:30Joey explains that Kobe hangs out at Confetti's where Lisa worked.
26:34And apparently he was a low-level drug dealer in the Dallas area.
26:41Lisa was a cocktail waitress, and she had just appeared in Playboy.
26:47Posing nude for Playboy can put a target on your back, and that can get very dangerous.
27:02I first heard about Lisa's story when someone reached out to me in my social media comments.
27:08I was fascinated by it.
27:11She was young, beautiful, her life was about to get so exciting.
27:15When the magazine came out, it never crossed my mind that our safety could be at risk with this being in public like we now were.
27:30It never even occurred to me.
27:33I was devastated.
27:35I never thought of it as someone targeting her.
27:38I thought, oh my God, how could this happen?
27:40When something like that happens, your mind goes everywhere.
27:46And Joey was the closest person I knew that she was with.
27:52The police invite Joey to come down to the station and talk about the situation there.
28:02They describe him as being very cooperative.
28:05He's answering all their questions.
28:07Apparently he was pretty heart broke over the death of his girlfriend.
28:11So he was, he was very cooperative with law enforcement at that point.
28:20Joey was her number one.
28:24But I had never heard the name Kobe.
28:26And Joey has sent him to go pick up Lisa for her party.
28:33Where'd that come from?
28:36Why didn't Joey go get her and then walk in with her?
28:41Isn't that usually how a surprise party works?
28:45Kobe was like a shadow person because I saw him on a few rare occasions.
28:49I never spoke a word to him.
28:52And it was very, very shocking that Kobe was with her that night.
28:58The police station, Joey said, well, I was throwing a surprise party for her.
29:04But I didn't have a ride for Lisa.
29:06So I called my friend Kobe and said, hey, could you give her a ride?
29:10Kobe said, sure, of course I can.
29:13But I do need to make a stop first.
29:14And Joey admits that Kobe is a low level drug dealer.
29:20So now police are asking Joey, why is it that you chose to have him give your girlfriend a ride somewhere?
29:28Why did you put her safety in his hands?
29:35Police are interested to know what their relationship was like at this point.
29:39And Joey admits, yes, Lisa's been getting a lot of attention lately.
29:45I mean, she's got a Playboy spread out on newsstands.
29:49And yeah, they've had some disagreements and he's been a little insecure.
29:54But Joey is Lisa's boyfriend.
29:58He was planning the party.
30:00He couldn't run around and bring Lisa there.
30:03Kobe is one of his friends.
30:04They party together, they hang out together.
30:06It just made sense to him.
30:12I'm not really suspicious of anyone until I can start putting things together.
30:19Joey was cooperative as to what he knew and what was going on and the information he had.
30:26There was a lot of talk about how odd it was that Kobe was the one who gave her the ride.
30:32I think Joey probably regretted that and probably still regrets that.
30:38As you confirm things, you realize, okay, Joey's probably, you know, being honest.
30:46But from talking to the 911 caller, we learned that the homeowner, Jeff Licker's not probably, you know, a goody two-shoes.
30:56Now, the focus was definitely on Jeff Licker.
30:57Talk to him.
30:58Two people ended up dead in your house.
30:59Why are they there and you're not there?
31:00So investigators start reaching out to more people who knew Jeffrey Licker and they find out that Kobe is an associate of Jeffrey Licker.
31:05Jeff Licker was very addicted to cocaine.
31:06Jeff Licker was very addicted to cocaine.
31:10And Kobe was his drug dealer.
31:12But police are not able to locate him yet.
31:13They're not able to locate him yet.
31:14They're not able to locate him yet.
31:15They're not able to locate him yet.
31:16They're not able to locate him yet.
31:17So investigators start reaching out to more people who knew Jeffrey Licker and they find out that Kobe is an associate of Jeffrey Licker.
31:22Jeffrey Licker was very addicted to cocaine.
31:27And Kobe was his drug dealer.
31:31But police are not able to locate him yet.
31:36And then at about 1.30 p.m., a man walks into the Dallas police station and says, hey, I have some information on your homicide from last night.
31:51And he introduces himself as 29-year-old Jeffrey Licker.
31:56He's trying to figure out what's going on with the double homicide last night and he wants to talk to somebody.
32:07Licker proceeds to tell them that he had been out all night drinking and that he had recently heard about the double homicide on the radio.
32:17And decided I better go to the police station and talk to them and find out what's going on and see if there's any help I can give them.
32:26I think Jeff came to the police station to distance himself from any activity and say he wasn't involved.
32:35So Jeff starts telling us some things that we know aren't right.
32:40Like he didn't know who the people were in the house.
32:43And we confront him with that.
32:46And then Jeff started to provide more information that was truthful.
32:52Licker finally admits he knows Sandoff.
32:56While they're interviewing Licker, he gives the police a full written statement.
33:05As far as I know, no one else has ever gotten a voluntary statement from a lawyer.
33:12Now, granted, he's a tax attorney. He's not a criminal attorney.
33:17But you would think that Attorney 101 is, you know, you don't talk to the police without representation.
33:24So that's kind of shocking.
33:26According to Jeff, Kobe had stolen a safe from him with money and drugs in it.
33:34And Jeff wanted to collect what was owed from that theft.
33:42He had Sandoffsky come over under the ruse of he was going to buy some more drugs.
33:48And when Sandoffsky got there, he had a surprise waiting.
33:55He had hired two individuals to collect the debt from Sandoffsky.
34:02From Sandoffsky previously stealing his safe.
34:06So Jeff's story was that he hired them.
34:09But he told the two men that, you know, he did not want Kobe injured in any way.
34:16According to Licker, he also sees Lisa come in.
34:20He doesn't know Lisa, but he does recognize her from the Playboy magazine.
34:24Then Jeffrey tells investigators he left his house at 10 p.m. and he went out drinking.
34:33So they want to know, what did you see?
34:35What did you do?
34:36What were you doing?
34:37And why hasn't he said anything about it?
34:39The statement itself is not everything, but it implicates him in hiring the actors that caused the death of Kobe and Lisa.
34:51Police have this man who's coming in here saying that he admittedly had two men hired, essentially hit men, even though he says, oh, they weren't supposed to harm Kobe.
35:06And he doesn't think that anything bad's happening.
35:10Something's not adding up here at all.
35:13As we were learning and finding out the facts of what happened.
35:18What a hot us.
35:20I had to call my parents.
35:35And my mom was already crying.
35:39She knew.
35:40She just knew that something had happened to one of us.
35:45And she knew instinctively it was Lisa.
35:49They had to get here.
35:52Playboy somehow had reached out to me and they wanted to give something to my parents.
35:58And I remember they got a $500 gift certificate just to take care of the food while they were here.
36:04The rest I almost don't remember.
36:07I was really messed up.
36:12In this statement, Jeffrey Licker lets police know that the two men hired are Raymond Hackman and Joel Arnold.
36:20Once Hackman and Arnold are brought in, they know they're in trouble.
36:34Raymond Hackman was not talking.
36:38But Joel Arnold gives a written statement.
36:41And it's a lot different from the one police thought from Jeffrey Licker.
36:44In his statement, Joel Arnold says that they were hired by Jeffrey Licker to either collect the debt or to kill Kobe.
36:58And he says that Jeff Licker promised to give them $5,000 to do it.
37:06Licker also said that once Kobe was taken care of, there was a girl out in the car that they needed to take care of too.
37:12They saw Jeffrey Licker leave the house and return, bringing Lisa Kale upstairs.
37:20And apparently they were going to get an extra $1,500 to kill her too.
37:25I remember when I heard the feeling was, how could someone look at her and do this?
37:41Lisa had been bludgeoned to death with a hammer.
37:50They got a trash bag and put it over her head.
37:55Yanked a lamp out of the wall and strangled her with it.
38:04And that's how, that's how she died.
38:10It sickens me knowing that happened to her.
38:22It's, it's just, anyway, I mean she was someone special and she had all this potential to go way beyond that.
38:33And it was taken away from us.
38:38When Lisa's story broke, Playboy just wanted to stay as far away from it as possible.
38:44The philosophy was kind of, if you don't say anything, you know, you won't add fuel to the fire.
38:49Based on the evidence, involuntary statements from two of the three defendants were able to put together warrants for the arrest of Jeff Licker, Joel Arnold and Raymond Hackman for the deaths of Kobe Sandosky and Lisa Kale.
39:10This case never went to court. It all got pled out.
39:17Joel Arnold and Raymond Hackman both were sentenced to 30 years for killing Kobe and life sentences for killing Lisa.
39:25Jeffrey Licker is convicted on two counts of murder and he's given 10 years in prison and 10 years probation.
39:35But I really don't think someone who orchestrated a crime like this should be given such a light sentence.
39:46Oh, I just thought they were going to hurt him.
39:48No, no, you didn't. No, you didn't.
39:50If you told those guys to hurt him, they would have hurt him.
39:53They would have punched him in the nose and said, you know, give me your drugs, don't come back or whatever.
40:00We needed to make Jeffrey Licker be held responsible.
40:03So we had a civil trial and to hit him where we could.
40:08Two years after Lisa's murder, her parents won a wrongful death lawsuit against Jeffrey Licker and they were awarded $9.3 million from him and his homeowner's insurance.
40:20Joey was inconsolable.
40:23Joey was inconsolable.
40:26We had people saying, I heard what happened.
40:29And Joey would hear that and he would just fall apart.
40:31Forty years have gone by, but when we talk about this, it still just makes me so sad for what she could have been.
40:46I think in the Playboy world she probably would have risen, but I think she had more in her than that.
40:51And it's so sad because she never got to show the rest of the world what a really wonderful person she is.
40:57I love her. I love her. I love her. I miss her.
41:07I want her to come back.
41:11Even in my dreams, I want that again.
41:15Lisa's story really affected me because she was a young woman with such a bright future ahead of her.
41:23Of course, I can relate to her story.
41:25She could have gone on to do anything and she had all of that stolen from her.
41:29Strictly from being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
41:32Strictly from being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
41:33Strictly from being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
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